bejoy
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Has anyone successfully used ozonated water to reduce the herxheimer reaction.
I have to admit that I have difficulty, no I'm honestly terrified, about committing to treatment because I feel almost kinda okay on my bandaid therapy, and I don't want to hit the floor again.
The Beck protocol says O3 water reduces herx, and that you can easily make an ozonator out of fish tank equipment. I have the specs...Any experience?
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No experience yet, but I just bit the bullet and ordered an ozonator unit yesterday.
As a backup until it gets here, I had some oxygen salts but unfortunately I looked on the bottom and I think they have expired so I may go get more to see if this can help in the meantime.
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clairenotes
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Please be careful with ozonated water.
The literature about the oxygenation of the blood is soooo compelling, but if you overdo it you can create a herx reaction, rather than reduce one.
If you do choose to try it, go much slower than the indicated instructions. Start with a very small amount, not a whole glass and monitor for any adverse reactions.
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Yes, I think you are more likely to create a herx than relieve one - that said, ozone can be helpful.
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before adding ozone water to the beck protocol, some people were having massive detox and
die off, and felt very uncomfortible. ozone therapy alleveiates this.
air is pumped through a bubbling stone into chilled water. depending on strength of equipment the water is saturated in a few minutes and must be drunk
immediately. (ozone will start to come out right away, it lasts 20-30 min max) (i give my half gallon 25-30 min. of bubbling)
ultra violet o3 - cheaper but not as effective.
o3 as stand alone is contravesial, but mixed with the blood electrification there is a major
boost to oxygenation of body and rapid detoxification.
measurements show dramatic increase in oxygen in the body within minutes.
o3 unlike other oxygen has a negative charge that specifically counteracts free radical
damage, ``scavange crosslinking'', and recharge depleted cells. ionic silver assist by restoring free electrons.
o3 rapidly converts(oxidizes) all known toxins and wastes long present int he body to H2O
and CO2 which flushes out quickly without help from colonics, lymp, spleen, liver, kidney,
or other detox.
you cannot use corona discharge for insufflation or anything like that because of nitric
oxides and acids. pure o2 as an input will not give this problem.
medical and welding o2 are the same, but industrial is cheaper.
the colder(much higher saturation) and purer your water(nothing to clean and oxidize), the
deeper the container(more pressure), and a smaller volume of water, the more ozone you will
get in the water.
ideally you want a ``2.5 ft high and 2.5 inch wide container. (i use a fairly up and down container, but not like this. you want to use glass or pyrex)
how to use:
submerge airstone to bottom and bubble 10oz container of half ice plus 1/2 cold water.
bubble for 2-5 minutes. drink right away. works rapidly, and much better than store bought
oxygen or ozone water. o3 cannot be stored.
never breathe ozone or ozonated air as it damamges (oxidizes) lung tissue, even in small
quantities.
(really i think its probably partially the junk in the lunks being oxidized)
bob also says that you should drink as much ozonated water as you can confortibly ingest,
but i would think that you should add minerals to yourself if you are drinking a whole lot.
you dont want to leech minerals.
thats what bob beck has. what i do is chill the water, by putting it outside or in the fridge. i do not use ice, but
i try to get it cold. im drinking a gallon of ozonated water right now in half gallons. i do this every
morning when i get up. right now i have my gear set up in the bathroom, with the extract fan. you dont want to be breathing ozone. in the summer i set it all up in the garage.
i would start by NOT chilling the water, or using a stone. this will give you less
ozone to start with. i have done this myself when ive been off the ozone, and im getting
back on. its possible to be real toxic, and feel sick from the detox if you hit it too
hard too fast. so i would recommend just starting out with what youve got: tube, no stone,
no chilling. you can probably make a cool bubbler out of the end of your tube if its soft
silicone like mine. i think you can cut it so there is a little peice you turn around and
jam in the bottom hole. and then make needle poke holes all in the tube so it bubbles out of
the holes and the bottom a little.
this stuff really helps! its helping me a lot lately.
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I used distilled water to help with toxin removal during herxes. Once an alternative doc introduced me to using distilled water, I was amazed how it helped me. I use to post about how amazing distilled water was in my treatment a couple years ago.
Some on this site questioned using distilled water, so I asked this alternative doc why he suggested distilled? He said it's considered empty compared to water that has mineral, trace minerals, other unknown particles. So the distilled water is able to pick up toxins while it's doing it's thing in the organs and carry the toxins out of the body. Other water was full and couldn't carry as much out.
I hope that makes sense. I would drink about a gallon + a day during toxic (herx) period for about 7 days. I loved it when Walgreens would run gallons for 1/2 price and I would stock up. Many believe distilled will also strip your body of minerals and trace minerals that are needed for a healthy body. So yes I did mineral replacement.
That's my experience. Now that my toxic load is reduced, water is my #1 treatment. But now I rotate between filtered and spring water and always drink at least a gallon a day.
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clairenotes
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Thanks for the information on distilled water, Pam. I had always wondered about it because I know of two health professionals who believe we should be using only distilled water during certain health protocols and/or detoxing.
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