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As an update, I stopped the protocol after one month due to increased blood pressure (165/93) and concern by my doctor that it was not a good option to continue. Be well.
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I read the posts and Marcs response to Ann was that she did not do the protocol or detox properly even though she insists she did.
She wrote a very nasty post back to him and like another member will probably be banned from talking negatively about the protocol, although she did not directly blame Marc or the protocol for her problems.
Salt/C will work for some, but not for all. Hiker
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I perceived the opposite--Anns posts as reasonable and Marc's as critical to the point of demonizing. Why is it that when people report positive results that is due to the protocol, but when they report negative results that is due to improper use of the protocol, improper attiude, improper detox, or attempting to use the protocol for other problems than lyme?
Also, if the protocol can kill lyme through osmostic shock, surely it can kill h pylori in the stomach through osmostic shock. They are both flagellar organisms although lyme is far more complex and distributed throughout the tissues. But the salt is going righ tinto the stomach and surely should kill h pylori just as well as lyme, yet Marc says in his recent discussions that the protocol is not effective for h pylori.
That's just a side note. Here is Ann's post. I am posting this info here so it is easily available to the lyme community so that they see both sides of the protocol.
Here is Ann's post in response to Marc:
Marc,
First of all if you will reread my posting again, nowhere do I blame you or anyone for my illness or my failure to recover.
Also, I did not continue to ramp up after continual herxing; I backed down on the amount of salt/C but continued the horrid symptoms and got even worse, so I quit.
I eat a healthy diet to avoid yeast, I have had many tests for other problems, and I do detox. I won't go in to details, because you will probably just pick them apart.
My point is that some people do so well with salt/C that they get over zealous and want people to stay with the protocol even though it might not be the right protocol for them. Even you went through many protocols until you found the one that worked for you. Not everyone gets healed with salt/C just as not everyone gets well with herbs, antibiotics, or rife.
For the record I have never vented at Bryan. I have asked him some point blank questions when he has seemed to reverse his opinion on something, but have never vented. Rife has actually helped me.
By the way, Selma would like her post removed from the success stories as she had to quit the salt/c protocol due to it causing high blood pressure. She is almost well now using Buhner's protocol and Klinghardt's detox programs. Perhaps in the future one might ask someone before putting their post in the success file.
You are right. I could cull the files and look for success and failure stories, but I had to have 5 surgies(4 under anesthia) since September and I am lucky to be posting anything at all.
Thank you for telling where the $29 fee goes. You might want to post that somewhere, so people know.
I would have sent my posts directly to your e-mail, but they keep bouncing back. Glad you are still healthy. Ann
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This is very, very disturbing. Many thanks to all the posters here that told more of the whole story about what is going on at Lyme Strategies.
I won't be suggesting this as a possible protocol to ANYONE until more information is available on that site (and in the book) about the possible risks, even if the evidence is anecdotal. It is still good evidence and about the only kind available with may alternative therapies.
I'm all for alternative therapies, but in order for a person to make an "informed decision", there must also be "full disclosure" about any product or protocol. Clearly, Marc is trying to suppress full disclosure, and he could find himself getting sued over this.
With regard to following the protocol under the care of a practitioner, sadly, any holistic practitioner who may try to "assist" someone with this protocol may be putting themselves at risk. In those states where NDs are licensed and have to be certified, I doubt if the Salt/C protocol is on their list of "approved therapies" under their guidelines, so getting any kind of professional help may be easier said than done. They may even be at risk if they do regular bloodwork to monotor the situation.
*sigh* Seems like there is always a Catch 22.
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I thank everyone on this thread for a really helpful discussion that did not degenerate into mudslinging. And I really appreciate those of you who posted your thoughts despite the possibility of being flamed. That can take real courage when you're lymie and feeling vulnerable.
One of the invaluable bits of Lymenet is this kind of treatment overview and discussion. It gives enough information for people to continue their own research with appropriate caution.
And it gives me (sometimes, when everyone plays fair) a way to track treatments over time without having to read through a dozen different groups.
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Ann, thanks for having asked the administrator of lymestrategies to take me OFF the list of successful stories. I was not consulted when he added me there.
I was definitively VERY FAR from being healed when I left the site due to clear rise of my blood pressure, even though I believe salt killed some critters. It was my first treatment, I was in my worst shape then, when I left the protocol.
It took me more than a year to consider myself well again, and I improved WITHOUT the salt protocol.
The 'funny' thing is that as I'm not a member anymore, I can't check the successful stories list!
I do wonder, how many of you sufferers, that left the forum and that were far from healed like me, how many of you are listed in the forum as SUCCESS STORIES too???
Lymenet has about 12,000 members. Have you guys read the success thread? It's not very long, not at all. I wonder if there are 50 names so far. I don't think so.
At the time I was visiting the lymestrategies site, the list of success stories reached 500 people!! And the lymestrategies site has today only about 1,400 members!!!
I wonder if lymenet one day will start charging 29 bucks for newbies to check the newbie files in more detail... And re-charge again every year without asking your permission. And then blame Paypal for that.
I wonder if any lymenet administrator earns 29 bucks A YEAR to do his/her wonderful job... I take my hat off for these guys that depend on DONATIONS and still keep doing their job well.
I do start to wonder if these 29 bucks don't go to pay fixed members of the lymestrategies list, a lyme sufferer that believes on the protocol and that is on disability (for example) and that doesn't feel salt could be dangerous (because his/her body accepts it well) and that welcomes the money at the same time that he/she believes doing a good job to help others....
As someone said, few members that keep posting good results about salt remain the same during the years. Why is that so? Why don't they just get off the list if they're well enough with the protocol?
These are only conjecturations, but as I told before, when there's money directly involved in a forum, there's DANGER.
Another source of money could be the health professionals linked to a forum. If a health professional gets patients through a forum, and accepts to do paid 'phone consultations' openly to members of the forum, this professional could be asked to pay some fee to the forum.
Beware of health professionals that are clearly linked to a forum. Because these are the ones that have direct interest in the growth of the forum, in the acceptance of the protocol. Indirectly, they have no interest in any critic to the protocol or to the forum whatsoever.
These are just conjecturations of course. But it is a "possible" picture of reality if money is involved the way it is.
I repeat: you salt users, create another forum free of charge, easy to do through yahoo (it'll take less than 20 minutes, if I remember well), and only then you'll get free discussions and a more complete picture about the use of salt in fighting lyme.
But please, don't write "it's an easy-to-do protocol involving ONLY salt and Vit.C". It is NOT easy to do, it involves loads of other supplements to cleanse and ALSO to kill.
Salt will not kill everything, just read the messages. And the most important of all, don't forget to add that salt may be dangerous for some people, especially if taken long term.
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Hi Selma...those of us posting here are not taking it, so, there is a list called salt 'n c that has very few members, we posted on there, but I feel its much better to post on lymenet, the main board for lyme. We've done our best to get the word out. I agree, where a layperson has created a medical protocol, is charging $ for it, and giving advice on treating a major illness with it, its all very dicey. Even so, were people just banding together and sincere, like they are on curezone.com for instance, it would at least just be people trying things and posting about their attempts. In this case, those with negative reactions--their reactions and their posts and their personalities are reframed to keep the protocol intact.
It is dangerous, whether money is involved or not, when someone appoints themselves Divine Purveyor of a Panacea. Nothing is a panacea and risks and side effects should be listed up front.
I'm glad we all posted on this thread to give a balanced view.
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Come - on people - this is why physicians say the internet is a dangerous place which offers bad information....
It's a FACT, that the body tries to hold sodium and chloride to narrow tolerance. And the body will shift fluid balances to keep the correct level in every fluid and organ in the body.
- so you CAN'T raise the salt level high enough to kill pathogens. It's just NOT the way the body works. But you can damage organs- raise blood pressure - and generally get close to the toxicity level of any substance if you use it incorrectly- including salt.
Any comments from anyone who wants to dispute the importance of electrolyte BALANCE in the body?
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Thanks folks for these posts. They help me make an informed decision of doing salt and c. I have read ONLY positive threads before,,by the bucket fulls and never much of ANY negative. This does make a difference in ones risks with this.
I do have a strange,funny but strange question to ask involving salt. I sweat ALOT am light skinned and fair haired(well used to be). Anyway the last time at the LLMD I was relating my experience with a salt tab(1 gram tab I always let dissolve in my mouth, never in my stomach where it might burn a hole in the lining) Anyway, I related the fact that a 1 gram salt tab was as effective (for ME) as an Ambien,,,actually MUCH more effective. A salt tab puts me to sleep pronto and I DO sleep like a rock and dream all night,,,unlike when I dont take one. LLMD was not at surprised at this comment and actually said there was some medical point to all this.
We used to eat salt tabs at work and high school football practice like popping M& M's and never heard adverse probs,,but only under heavy sweating conditions....so real or imaginary. This was back when ham was ham(and tasted salty) and ham gravy was almost too salty without any added salt to it,,,and now tastes 'sweet'. SOOOO my body tells me I am short of salt,,,I personally think this low salt thing for people who actually 'work' outside and sweat buckets to prove it is not a GOOD thing, period.
Am I saying, jump on a ton of salt and this salt and c protocol, now never!! But even adding generous amounts of table salt get me feeling better, salty food equals better feeling---sweet foods make me jittery and bathroom regularly. Can salt actuallybe measured in the body?? Whats the 'normal' levels?? Can someone infected with 'heavy metals' have different 'salt tolerance or shortages of the body than non heavy metal infected people?? How does sellinium content of food or water affect your salt status??? Any connection at all,,how would one find out??? Thanks for reading-just don--
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Wow, I really appreciate all you had to say about the salt and vit. c protocol. Thanks for all the time you put into it. I think it's so important to warn others when we know something can be damaging.
Interestingly, hearing your descr. of your experience with the protocol, and the protocol's author was like listening to the exact parallel experience I had with the Marshall Protocol. Same pressure to report only positive comments, same hiding of cases of people who were VERY damaged by the protocol. I too, was censored after voicing some concerns. and a friend of mine was actually sued by Marshall for speaking out about the protocol on her website!!! That is, he attempted to sue her, but she got a good lawyer and the judge laughed it out of the courtroom.
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oxygenbabe
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Justag:
Why "herx"?
1) Allergy to Vitamin C 2) Shifting of Ph or electrolytes in body causing unpleasant symptoms (after all--Marc calls the kidney pain a "kidney herx" that many folks go through) 3) Salt may kill bugs in the gut? This I do think is a possibility since salt in a lot of water is an ayurvedic method of gut cleansing though its only done for a few days 4) Other stuff people are on, other supplements, causing reactions, either allergy, sensitivity, imbalance, or possibly die-off
The osmotic shock theory--which Barb correctly questions (why did I get kidney problems? Because my kidneys worked overtime, leaching calcium adn other minerals out of my cells, in order to get rid of that sodium and keep the blood constant. And its the blood that infuses all the tissues)--could not possibly work from the range of 1 gram to 18 grams. Anyone ever think about that? How does 1/6th of a teaspoon of salt cause osmotic shock and kill lyme bugs in your cells and tissues and brain?
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My question that never got answered on the salt/C protocol is if it can kill bacteria via osmotic shock, why doesn't it kill regular body cells?
You are to stay very hydrated on this protocol, probably so your cells, don't die, but then wouldn't this hydrate the bacteria, too? Hiker
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OK, technical question here(for me). I always heard that a 1 gram salt tab was same as a teaspoon of 'Mortons' salt(okay I used Mortons as a generic term for 'table' salt)(I happen to use it daily in my shakers).
You said"IT takes 1/6 teaspoon of salt to effect a difference??"
I guess I am not quite understanding what you are saying(count me dense today)
I 'always' heard you need to get to 8-16 grams of salt AND 'C' to have any good things happen.
I DO think tho, I will just continue to take my one tab every now and again,,,or when I am having hard time sleeping,,,NOT 8-16 a day like promoted,,yes moderation is a key component of healing.
Can a body NOT be able to hold on to salt???,,,in other words it sloughs off salt faster than is should?? Sometimes my eyes burn,I rub them,they burn worse cause salt from my face is rubbed into my eyes and we all know what salt in the eyes feels like!!
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Hmmmm, yes very disturbing indeed. And, I'm not at all surprised. Shame people got hurt though, really is.
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Marc and his site (never read his book) used to say a teaspoon was four grams of salt. Recently Kurt found out through searching that a teaspoon was usually six grams of salt, so Marc has now changed that and is talking about a teaspoon as six grams (I didn't know about this change, so I thought when I took a teaspoon it was four grams, as that's what I'd heard for a few years).
So if someone is taking one gram, its one sixth of a teaspoon.
It is strange about the varying amounts. Rosemary, an Australian woman who isone of the success stories posted on salt 'n c yahoo group recently that she mainly stayed at 5 grams, because she couldn't go higher, and that sometimes dipped down to three, and when she had a migraine, stopped for a day or two. She has had improvements, though she admits she is still ill and has a long way to go. However, five grams a day is much less than the recommended amount for "kill" I agree.
So it m ay be increasing blood volume, killing gut pathogens, who knows.
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A teaspoon is actually equal to 4.745 grams, according to an online conversion table I used.
There are approximately 28.4 grams in an ounce. There are 6 teaspoons to an ounce.
So, 28.4 divided by 6 = 4.7333333 grams per teaspoon.
So, the answers is neither 4 grams nor 6 grams to a teaspoon - it falls somewhere in the middle.
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It depends on how much you fill your teaspoon. I did many teaspoons until I reached 100 grams in my scale.
I divided to see how much an average spoon for me was, and it came to 6 grams/ teaspoon.
So for me, 1 teaspoon (my teaspoon) is 6 grams. But for some may be more or less, depending on how much you fill it.
Answering other guys about why salt intake = makes you feel good. I guess one little capsule (1 gram) is not enough to do much killing. Dr. K uses salt to kill intestinal parasites, if I understood well. But for a short period of time.
Sea salt contains minerals in trace, it can help our bodies on that. And of course, to help with electrolytes. I clearly feel better when I take minimum amounts of salty water (Himalayan salt), to replace electrolytes.
when I caught lyme, I was already taking about 6 grams of good salt a day in my food for decades (that's the average consumption of salt).
I never buy table salt for decades. So I already was on the "required" amount of salt for my body weight (skinny) to "kill" borrelia according to their protocol. It didn't prevent me from catching lyme, nor from developing the disease.
The extra salt recommended by the protocol clearly caused me high blood pressure. I stopped the extra intake, the blood pressure normalized fast.
I re-did it 3 times, and the last time I had to stop, it took me about a week or more to get my blood pressure down. It was then I said: this is NO stuff for me.
People from that forum told me: "it could be a herx". Kidding? Others told me "If you insist, your condition can normalize after, as seen in other members". Not all was in the forum, but some answers were by email.
That was when the red light blinked!!! And I started realizing this forum could be dangerous. I thanked some nice people that were there, and left the forum. Then they added me in their success stories list!!
My whole family suffers from chronic high blood pressure. I still don't. It's CERTAINLY not a condition I would like to get. I know cardiovascular diseases are responsible for half of deaths in my family (grandparents, uncles etc).
I wonder NOW if what I felt while on salt were real herxes or just symptoms of salt intoxication...? I had extreme jitterness, tinitus...
If you want to balance electrolytes, I guess a very diluted solution of good salt (or a soup!) will do the job.
Oxygenbabe, I guess you're right. Marc is doing that for pure egocentric reasons (prophet on Earth reasons), the money doesn't seem to be the driving force.
Can he be prosecuted? An e-book, could it be considered like a published book? An author who publishes a book conseling on dangerous protocols without enough warning about bad effects to people's health could certainly be prosecuted by people who feel got their health damaged.
Unfortunately, salt/C protocol has to be discussed here, as there, there's no way...
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Researchers led by UVa Health System pathologist Robin Felder, Ph.D., have demonstrated that looking for several variations of genes that control blood pressure can predict the risk for high blood pressure caused by high levels of salt.
Once it is fully developed, this effective diagnostic test will be the first of its kind, says Dr. Felder, whose work will be published in the Feb. 23 issue of the journal Clinical Chemistry. When a subject had three or more variations in these genes, the new genetic test correctly predicted risk for salt-induced high blood pressure in 94 percent of cases. Health is adversely affected by high salt intake in up to half of Americans.
In a separate finding, two genes at most were necessary to predict with a 78 percent accuracy which people with high blood pressure (hypertension) had a low renin levels, a substance that is currently measured to help establish the diagnosis of salt (sodium chloride) sensitivity. Thus, the researchers found different genetic bases for low renin in the blood and for salt sensitivity. Salt sensitivity is defined as a greater than 10 percent increase in blood pressure following a high-salt meal.
The researchers also determined that the increase in subjects' blood pressure and inability to eliminate excess salt from their systems was directly related to how many variations were found in the participants' salt regulating genes, a phenomenon called a gene dosing effect. The more gene variants, the bigger the health problems.
"A genetic test for high blood pressure and/or salt sensitivity will be instrumental in motivating Americans to adopt heart healthy lifestyles and help to improve their overall health and quality of life," Dr. Felder said. "In addition, because the treatment of hypertension costs the U.S. health system more than $13 billion per year, this test could result in significant cost savings as well."
"Diagnostic genetic tests with this high level of predictive value for hypertension simply don't exist at this time," said Dr. Hironobu Sanada, M.D., Ph.D., Fukushima Medical University, who led the clinical trials of the diagnostic genetic panel with Japanese subjects. Dr. Sanada is a former UVa pathology fellow who studied and worked with Dr. Felder.
Performing extended studies among people with different ethnic origins, the research group hopes to demonstrate the effectiveness of this test in particular among African Americans, who have a higher incidence of salt-sensitive hypertension than other races. While 98 million Americans suffer from either high blood pressure or sensitivity to dietary salt (or both), until now no genetic test had been created that could predict who may develop these diseases. Salt sensitivity, with or without high blood pressure, has the same deleterious consequences as high blood pressure. Left undiagnosed, high blood pressure and/or salt sensitivity can lead to devastating consequences such as stroke, blindness, heart attack and kidney failure.
The studies were conducted by a team of collaborators including Pedro A. Jose, M.D., Ph.D., at Georgetown University School of Medicine (Washington D.C.), Hironobu Sanada, M.D., Ph.D., Fukushima Medical University (Fukushima, Japan), and Scott Williams, Ph.D., Vanderbilt University (Nashville, TN). Funding for these studies was provided in part by a $10.2 million grant from the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute.
The grant will allow this group of collaborating investigators, including Dr. Robert M. Carey, M.D. (University of Virginia) to extend their studies on the genetic bases for high blood pressure and salt sensitivity and their mechanisms in subjects from many different ethnic backgrounds, which could influence the predictive value of the diagnostic test. The team's work will examine the normal mechanisms associated with sodium (salt) management by the kidney and how the failure of these mechanisms contributes to high blood pressure.
Dr. Carey will recruit an additional 3,000 volunteers who will receive genetic screens to identify gene variants that contribute to elevated blood pressure. Dr. Jose's research will determine how dopamine receptors and angiotensin II receptors regulate each other. The information from these studies will provide new insights into how hypertension develops, how it can be tested and how it can be treated.
Right now, no definitive diagnostic test exists for salt sensitivity, except for a protocol in which diet is controlled rigorously over a two-week period. "Through these grant funds, we wish to stimulate broader research in the area of cardiovascular disease, hypertension and salt sensitivity," said Dr. Felder. "It's important because cardiovascular diseases, including stroke, account for more disability and death than the next top five causes combined."
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Will try to sort through this post when my brain is working better.
I am supposed to be doing salt/c per doctor's suggestion but haven't figured out what to take yet and how much.
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I certainly have read what I need to and although I don't neccessarily agree that this is a resolution I surely do not think it could hurt remove any hidden critters that do not belong in our already destroyed anatomies...
I have heart concerns but if I do not take a chance then I will never know if I may feel less pain than I am ready feeling.
My husband and father died from heart ailments and my children are following them.. I can not sit here and wait until this or any other disease takes them before I go .. I would rather give it a try in hopes they will find a better future than what they rpesently have..
Anyone else have anything to input.. I will re-read this post because it has a great deal in it and once over is not enough for me to process anything these days..
I would be interested in any substantial input and thank yousomeone for bringing me to the link I am exhausted these days and as I used to search I find it too much to do with the pain I am presently in. I can't recall who gave me the link in my post but I thank you.... LindaD
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I found this interesting so brought it back up.
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Thanks, I am almost in remission doing this protocol, it has saved my life. Everyone has to make their own informed decision about what protocol they want to do.
I used sea salt and really benefited from the valuable minerals which I am sure I needed. Sea salt is a natural bacteriocide and has been used for centuries to heal infectious diseases.
Gael
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It is interesting. I am going to start Salt/C soon but ramp up very very slowly. I think I already use a gram a day just on my food alone...
I did NOT know that most powdered C is GMO... that is disturbing. The powdered C I got today was the only one available at my grocery store and I have no idea if it's GMO. Guess I'll be calling them Tuesday and asking some questions.
Oh... and the woman who died from drinking the water... she was doing a bet from a radio station. Some contestants were to win an Xbox or something and the rule was you had to drink so much water every hour without peeing at all. Who ever went the longest without urinating won. This lady drank water all day, more water than normal people take AND held her urine. That is why she died.
I believe salt is good for you. My LLMD has me drink salt water every time I see him to help my veins for blood draw. I do think Salt/C will help get rid of intestinal parasites... which is fine by me. But I don't see it as something I'll do long term. Just every now and then and starting out slow.
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Salt C has saved my life. It seems that the people of Lymenet are only interested in treating with abx for many years at a time. I tried abx too and then relapsed hard when I stopped. Salt C has been immeasurable to me and so has Marc.
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