posted
Lyme messes with brain chemicals & certain antibiotics can cause depression/suicidal thoughts too.
You are not alone in these dark thoughts. The important thing is to talk to somebody when you're feeling really low. People here at lymenet understand and have been there too.
Could you go over and join the chat tonight? Sometimes, just sharing with people who understand can help get you through a particularly bad time.
If you are feeling suicidal, please call the suicide hotline 1.800.784.2433 Now please!
We care about you. Posts: 136 | From North Carolina | Registered: Apr 2007
| IP: Logged |
posted
I've heard of several abx that can cause those types of thoughts. Please call the hotline if you're unable to talk yourself down.
-------------------- Getting older is when we would rather not have a good time than have to get over it. - Oscar Wilde Posts: 386 | From Radnor, PA - where the ticks run free | Registered: May 2006
| IP: Logged |
Keebler
Honored Contributor (25K+ posts)
Member # 12673
posted
-
Be sure your blood sugar is not too low, too.
In addition to the toxins of the illness, and the added stress on our livers to filter a ton of stuff, adrenal fatigue and/or low blood sugar can lead to this feeling, too.
Water. Electrolytes. Have you had your B vitamins (with food) and fish oil. All this makes a difference.
Now, if you've not gone running for the hills from so many ideas . . . I hope you can get yourself to a laugh. This is a very bizarre set of symptoms. Yet many have improved, so it is possible.
Rest, nurture yourself, put on some music - and if you have bottled up emotions acknowledge that and just let it drift away from you, floating up to the sky . . . as you relax into a very deep rejuvenating sleep.
Tomorrow, the sun will still be here as will the earth and the moon at night . . . and you.
posted
Adam, you are not alone and dont hesitate to call the hotline sometimes words on a screen are not enough, if you dont have someone to talk to then please call the hotline.....
-------------------- Seeking renewed health & vitality. --------------------------------- Do not take anything I say as medical advice - I am NOT a dr! Posts: 830 | From TN | Registered: Aug 2007
| IP: Logged |
CD57
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 11749
posted
yes, that combo can cause it -- I believe it's bartonella actually that's doing it; that's what my LLMD believes too.
Just remember you can get through it, and it does get better! I was on that same combo and was there in August and I don't feel the same at all anymore. It WILL get better!
Posts: 3528 | From US | Registered: Apr 2007
| IP: Logged |
TheCrimeOfLyme
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 4019
posted
Rifampin made me want to kill myself and others around me. it was very hard for me. I had to take a smaller dose due to that.
-------------------- You want your life back? Take it. Posts: 3169 | From Greensburg, Pennsylvania | Registered: Jun 2003
| IP: Logged |
CaliforniaLyme
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 7136
posted
if you ever want to talk (preferably West Coast daylight hours) 1-831-662-2895!!!
sit on your hands if you really feel like hurting yourself!!! don't do it-!!
it will pass!!! best wishes, Sarah
-------------------- There is no wealth but life. -John Ruskin
All truth goes through 3 stages: first it is ridiculed: then it is violently opposed: finally it is accepted as self evident. - Schopenhauer Posts: 5639 | From Aptos CA USA | Registered: Apr 2005
| IP: Logged |
posted
Hi again Aadam, From reading on your other thread, sounds like a lot of drug changes for you lately.
Several of the diseases AND several of the meds can cause suicidal thoughts.
Sound like you are on the right track of getting to the nitty gritty of what is making you sick, and perhaps what will make you well.
BUT YOU MAY NEED TO GO VERY SLOW WITH CHANGES IN MEDS AND DOSAGES.
I know that we all want to kill this stuff as soon as we can, but slow and steady has merits. Talk with your doctor asap.
Hang in there! Von
Posts: 258 | From Washington State | Registered: Nov 2005
| IP: Logged |
hardynaka
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 8099
posted
Adamm, many lyme patients die from suicide. I guess it's the main cause of death for lyme (?). They feel little improvement and hopeless.
However, most people that treat lyme intensively DO IMPROVE! I've seen that over and over and it seems to be a more COMMON PATTERN than exceptional one. It may take some time, though, and you'll need some patience.
No matter what protocol or treatment you choose, most people IMPROVE with treatment. Some radically improve, others stabilize, some others even get to remission!
That's what I see here and in other lyme forums in these last years, since I discovered I had lym (2005).
Never ever give up! I felt crap in some days, life not worth living at all, but then, some other days, my life was next to normal again. It happened so suddenly to me sometimes.
I've read that on and on here, specially for people that got rid of babs: like night and day in a very short period!!!
When I think of what I thought before, now that I feel next to normal (even if fighting a small relapse), I find it was totally nonsense! My life now worths living every single day.
Hang in!!! Many people here have gone through that. Believe me!
Selma
Posts: 1086 | From Switzerland | Registered: Oct 2005
| IP: Logged |
sparkle7
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 10397
posted
Many of us can identify!
People have these feelings when they aren't taking pharmaceutical drugs & they don't have to deal with a really bizarre illness.
This one is particularly difficult!
Just know that there are others out there who share your feelings.
Try to keep it together but if you need help - call someone.
It's best not to get a medical record from the state for having suicidal thoughts but if you can't help it - go seek out help.
Life is worth living - you never know when things will change or what tomorrow brings.
I try to take pleasure in the small things - like a good cup of coffee or the beautiful color of the sky.
I'm not a religious person - so, I don't think it's a sin to kill yourself.
I do think there is some reason why we are here, though.
Even if we have to deal with pain & suffering.
You are not alone.
Posts: 7772 | From Northeast, again... | Registered: Oct 2006
| IP: Logged |
kelmo
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 8797
posted
Mepron can do it. Call someone if you feel this way, like your LLMD. He had my daughter back off the dosage.
Posts: 2903 | From AZ | Registered: Feb 2006
| IP: Logged |
merrygirl
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 12041
posted
I can relate..
maybe try an SSRI like Zoloft to help. It helps me a lot,
Melissa
Posts: 3905 | From USA | Registered: May 2007
| IP: Logged |
canbravelyme
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 9785
posted
Hi Adamm,
Are you on any anti-depressants? Even at small doses, when used for nerve pain, they can cause the opposite effect.
Please take good care, and keep us informed.
-------------------- For medical advice related to Lyme disease, please see an ILADS physician. Posts: 1494 | From Getting there... | Registered: Aug 2006
| IP: Logged |
tailz
Unregistered
posted
Exposure to electromagnetic fields and suicide among electric utility workers: a nested case-control study...
OBJECTIVES This nested case-control study examines mortality from suicide in relation to estimated exposure to extremely low frequency electromagnetic fields (EMFs) in a cohort of 138 905 male electric utility workers.
METHODS Case-control sampling included 536 deaths from suicide and 5348 eligible controls. Exposure was classified based on work in the most common jobs with increased exposure to magnetic fields and indices of cumulative exposure to magnetic fields based on a measurement survey.
RESULTS Suicide mortality was increased relative to work in exposed jobs and with indices of exposure to magnetic fields. Increased odds ratios (ORs) were found for years of employment as an electrician (OR 2.18; 95% confidence interval (95% CI) 1.25 to 3.80) or lineman (OR 1.59; 95% CI 1.18 to 2.14), whereas a decreased OR was found for power plant operators (OR 0.67; 95% CI 0.33 to 1.40).
A dose response gradient with exposure to magnetic fields was found for exposure in the previous year, with a mortality OR of 1.70 (95% CI 1.00 to 2.90) in the highest exposure category. Stronger associations, with ORs in the range of 2.12-3.62, were found for men <50 years of age.
CONCLUSION These data provide evidence for an association between occupational electromagnetic fields and suicide that warrants further evaluation. A plausible mechanism related to melatonin and depression provides a direction for additional laboratory research as well as epidemiological evaluation.
I didn't even need to see this study. And this is exactly why my doctor had better give me heparin today for my babs.
IP: Logged |
The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations. If you would like to support the Network and the LymeNet system of Web services, please send your donations to:
The
Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey 907 Pebble Creek Court,
Pennington,
NJ08534USA http://www.lymenet.org/
UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!
![[group hug]](graemlins/grouphug.gif)
![[kiss]](graemlins/kissing.gif)
Printer-friendly view of this topic