sixgoofykids
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I'm going to start out with a disclaimer to keep everyone happy ... just as many things around here have no proof of working, this doesn't either .... I'm using it in addition to other things and know it will not heal Lyme all on its own. No debates on its effectiveness, okay.
I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on using it or comments on what it's done for them.
I've suffered from insomnia for years ... I currently take 5 mg of Ambien when I go to bed, and another 5 mg four hours later. The first three days I used my laser, I didn't wake up for the second Ambien.
I emailed the nurse I bought it from and she says she's had similar reports from others.
I didn't buy it for insomnia. Anyway, any suggestions?
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Sorry I can't answer any of your questions but I've been thinking about getting one.
Can you post the site where you got it?
Thanks, Terry
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heiwalove
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i'm thinking of buying one from her, too (she's my ART practitioner and she's amazing) . i'm really interested in your experiences with it; thanks for starting this thread.
sixgoofykids
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Aha, maybe you can pick her brain about the laser the next time you have an ART session and pass the info on to us.
I live all the way in Ohio, so I've only communicated with her via email.
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she only comes to nyc every few months to treat patients so i don't see her that often; i think the next time she'll be here is february or march. but i'll definitely ask her about it then!
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Sixgoofy and karatelady, you'll have to make some reports here on the board about your experiences.....
My question is.... is this lasering pretty easy to understand, or is it complicated?
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sixgoofykids
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It's just like shining a flashlight over your body ... so it's pretty easy.
There are several homeopathic vials to choose from .... I guess it's best if you have ART available, but I don't, so I just start with the green ones as the directions state. I figure that the worst case scenario is that I waste my time using one I don't need.
The first three nights I slept better, but the last two nights, I needed my Ambien. Nothing else to report.
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It is easy - you feel a little funny doing it but there is really nothing to it.
I had my massage this a.m. and it took half the time as I didn't have as many toxin knots between my shoulders. I was pleasantly surprised. Is it from the lasering? I don't know yet but this is a first as far as less knots.
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Thanks -
I guess I was concerned about how to choose the 'vials' that you use.... if there was some kind of system for making those decisions.
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Sixgoofy, may I ask which of the lasers you bought (the lower or higher frequency)? Why did you choose it?
I went to her site, and am seriously thinking to get one (either this or something for doing accupucnture).
Another question: I know I have accupuncture points I can't GIVE energy, but only take off (specially in my stomach) or the effect will be INVERSE. I have many years of experience with accurpressure points, moxibustion etc, so I know some points for me are 'FORBIDDEN' to add energy (but they need to 'relax').
Do you know if it's possible to take off energy with a laser? Or is this just for the points that need energy?
I would love Gigi to be here, too, but I guess she's either on 'vacations' of lymenet or got banned again as it's been long time I don't see her here....
Thanks for any info!
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sixgoofykids
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Gosh, Selma, I really don't know .... you might email the nurse selling the lasers ... I'm sure she could answer that question for you .... I'd love to hear what she has to say.
I picked the stronger laser ... you know, the "more is better" mentality, LOL.
I found this website on LED, which is different from this laser as it needs someone trained to use it, but there are a lot of similarities, so I thought I'd post it. www.laserdetox.com.
I learned a lot yesterday Googling laser energetic detoxification.
Yes, I haven't seen GiGi in a while either ... I was hoping she'd post on this thread.
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I thought I'd give an update ...
I am still using the laser. I am feeling much, much better, but I can't say it's because of the laser. I honestly don't know how much it's contributing.
I've "graduated" to using the detox vials. I'm using one every three days .... I generally use the same one several times before switching over to the next.
I use the Bach flower remedy vial immediately afterward to help alleviate any herx ... I have not herxed from it.
The laser it such a small part of what I do that I can't say how much it has contributed to my getting well. I am happy to be using it though, especially now that I'm on the Cowden protocol (since Cowden uses laser detox as an integral part of his treatment).
I'm also using FIR sauna, coffee enemas, and exercise. I think all this in conjunction with abx, supps, and herbs is what has made me well.
Now my LLMD has me focusing on detoxing and making my body stronger as many of my symptoms seem to come from adrenal fatigue rather than Lyme. So, this laser is fitting right in.
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Thanks, Sixgoofy -
I'll bump this up - maybe Karate Lady will check in, too.
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i'm still trying to save up for a green laser. just saw dr. k's nurse again last week but didn't have enough money for both the appt and a laser. she said you can easily make your own, though. not sure how; i'll be in touch with her about this via email.
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Yes... thank you for providing this update. I am still very interested in the follow-up reports from those who are using this device. For some reason, I continue to be drawn to the website also.
It is too bad that there is not a more clear view as to what is doing what right now. But overall it sounds promising.
Claire
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Good reminder. I have the green laser kit but have not used it as much as I should. I am going to add it back to my to do list...
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I am happy to see that you and others are interested in using a laser along with other treatments. I know this nurse very well and would highly recommend whatever she endorses. She is at most of the seminars I attend and is one of the most reliable and committed people I know.
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Sounds interesting. Thanx for the info!
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just wanted to bring this back up to the top. i've been using the green laser for the last month or so and it's helped me immeasurably.
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Tell us more! How has it helped?
I've been using it when I take Zeolite. Zeolite is for heavy metals and I take it every third day, so I use the laser the days I take the Zeolite.
There's really no way to tell how much it's working.
Our bird with the liver trouble is still doing well after lasering her. She was also on meds, but didn't get better till the laser.
I also use it on the one who has a nervous habit of chewing her feathers .... when I remember to use it, some feathers grow back .... then when she chews them off again, I remember again, LOL.
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you know, it's really hard to say concretely what it's doing or how it's working. i've used it almost every day for the past month-plus, and since then my progress has really accelerated. so much so that at my last ART session on monday night, my regulation was open for the first time ever, and nothing (none of the remedies i brought in) blocked my autonomic nervous system. i'm still in a really fragile state of healing, my energy is limited, etc, but i'm able to do a lot more, i've started dating again, looking for parttime work, working out at the gym, walking around manhattan without too much exhaustion afterward. my panic/anxiety and depression are almost nonexistent now.
i have no way to prove it, but i truly believe the laser is the main thing bringing my body back into balance.
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Can you give us info about which laser you use & where you got it?
Is there only one company that makes it?
6 goofy: Poor birdy... I hope he/she gets well. Isn't that a psychological issue when they pull out their feathers?
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Sparkle, feather chewing can have many causes from nutritional deficiencies, to skin disorders, to psychological issues, as you say. Fortunately, she chews hers and doesn't pluck them! That's worse!
Our bird started chewing after we moved .... then stopped but did it every time we had a thunderstorm .... now, it's a bad habit like someone who bites their nails.
The nervous system vial does help her a bit. She's gone from showing skin to always at least having down.
We've tried meds, herbs, distractions, attention, etc. Nothing has worked.
Unfortunately, she shares a cage with another bird and chews his feathers, too.
I'll have to do an experiment and start lasering daily. This is the most progress we've made with her.
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I'm glad the green laser topic has come up again. Have been wanting to purchase one, but is it possible to do it over the phone rather than the internet? Thanks.
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Hello green lasers users!
I just bought mine too directly from dr. K's institute here in Germany. I'm Selma, from Switzerland, just posting on another screen name as I lost my previous password!
I haven't bought anything that 'goes' with it (vials, etc).
I just wonder what kind of supplement stuff people buy besides the laser.
I suscribed for the course with dr. K in May, so hopefully, I'll get some info directly with him, but I would like to start using it BEFORE the course, so that I can ask more questions.
I'm basically interested in detoxing (petrochemicals, fungal toxins, insecticides, pesticides, heavy metals, thiothers/ mercaptans, whatever), but I wonder what else could I do with it (besides accupucture-like treatments).
Heather, can you tell me for what/ how you are using yours? I know you are ART tested for your treatments, but just wondering.
Glad to hear you're doing better and that your regulation is open! It's a great thing to have it open, like getting back to life, isn't it?
I can do ART myself as I'm following now more and more of the courses, so what I need now is more info on for what/ how to use the laser.
The standard laser here costs only 120-130 euro, I don't know for how much you guys bought. I didn't see anything that goes with it, I guess I have to ask.
And Sixgolfkids, if I understood well, you 'take' these bach flowers essencies through the laser? So it means, you flash it through one accupressure point? Can you tell me which point? Is it the one behind the neck or it varies?
I can ART test myself for things, so no worry, I'll never do anything NEW (for the first time) without asking thoroughly.
I don't think I have lyme (despite a recent EM rash, I'm again back to previous symptomless stage, back to low doses preventive herbs).
Thanks for ANY info! I promise to come back and share some experience after the seminar too!
Selma
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i haven't been ART tested for the vials because i'm not using the detoxing vials yet. so i just follow her instructions - green (muscle/structural) vials, then red (hormonal), then blue (emotional/flower essences).
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Selma, the slide show answers your question for me. That's how I do it. I sweep the whole body front and back (hubby does it for me). Then I do the bottom of my feet and my ears.
And, the slide show says she doesn't sell the yellow vials to patients, but I have the yellow vials, so I use them. I used the other ones first for several weeks before starting the yellow vials.
I always use the Bach remedies after the yellow vials .... it's supposed to help with any herx symptoms from detoxing.
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Do any other companies sell the laser kits than the nurse lady? Just curious?
Sorry about your bird - 6goofy. It seems that she/he got that way after you moved? Maybe changing terratory freaked him/her out? They are all so individual & have individual personalities.
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Sixgoofy and Heather!
Many thanks, great slide show, I guess I'll have some stuff to study here in the next days!
So the complete kit is 200 dollars and has all the stuff that is in the list??? Gosh, it looks like A LOT OF STUFF.
And one is supposed to buy each kit FOR EACH PERSON, if I understood well?
Wow, I got a lot of stuff to look into this weekend! Thanks thanks!!!
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Sparkle, yes, but we moved when she was still a baby .... she did minor chewing before that, just in one spot. She's a little high strung, so I also think that has to do with it.
Selma, one kit will work for everyone. It just comes with the laser and a bunch of vials (12 I think?).
I think she's the only one who sells this.
Be sure to keep batteries in stock in your house, LOL. It works better when the batteries are fresh.
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Thanks! But it's not what I heard (direct from the A. nurse and from Gigi).
The vials are personal, the information of the light is two-directional (dr. K confirmeed that), meaning, you get the content of the vial to you, and the vial gets the content from you!!!
Inside the family, it may be okay (in my opinion), but I wouldn't use it with other people... Just my opinion.
Thanks again, anyway, I'll see what to do next now... SElma
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My green laser arrived the other day. Wondering if anyone else has information regarding whether you can use the vials on more than one person? Thanks for any suggestions.
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Clancy, according to nurse A. (personal email), if you share the vials it's like sharing your tooth brush!
I hope others will come up with their practioners' opinions. I'll do the course in May, so I can't still ask about that directly to dr. K.
anyone is a dr. C. patient? He's the one that uses it a lot for detox.
Selma
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Dr K. and Nurse Andi are saying the vials are bi-directionally communicating, but it doesn't make sense. When you emit light through a tube it is in a single direction. It doesn't seem possible anything is bouncing back into the vial unless the laser was pointed at a mirror. I'm curious the explanation and to what phenomenom they attribute to the change in the vial's chemistry.
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I emailed Nurse A. today. She said that it's okay to use it on me, my birds, and anyone who lives in our household as we're all exposed to the same ecosystem, and essentially the same bugs.
However, if anyone outside the house wants to use it, they should buy their own vials.
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Thanks for posting this 6 goofy. I had emailed her, also, and hadn't heard back yet.
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Thanks Six, It makes greater sense the environment where the vials are kept are the influence that makes them unique to one household. Brings up a question, where should the vials be stored inside the house? Away from large amounts of EMF? Where folks are most often, near the bed?
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Actually, she said it was because the laser light was biphasic .... so information is delivered via the light, but also back to the person holding the light (that's how she said it).
I just keep the laser and vials in my closet.
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How often are you using them? Is it possible to use them on yourself without anyone helping you- I didn't watch the slide show yet.
thanks!
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sixgoofykids
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I use mine about every third day. You can use it every day, but with the sauna and coffee enemas, it gets to be a lot of time!
You can do it to yourself, but it's easier if you can have someone else do it for you. You can't get your own back. I have hubby laser me .... and I wear significantly less than in the slide show, LOL.
I hurt my knee working out, so I've been just doing my knee with it. Don't know how much it's helping, I mean, how do you know?
What keeps me convinced about it doing something is that as long as I laser my bird with nervous system, she doesn't chew her feathers, but when I stop, she starts chewing again.
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