lymie_in_md
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Just got mine yesterday which was good timing, because I had a session with my physcial therapist. She uses craniosacral testing and if you feel comfortable with this form of testing, then indeed it does work. I even had it compared with the venex bee venom ointment. And yes it is as powerful or maybe a little bit more so then the bee venom depending on the vials compared.
The blue vials did nothing for me based on her testing. The most powerful vials for me were 5 glands and 10 but all the reds and greens were very strong. It didn't seem to matter where the vials were pointed, she sensed an immediate reaction.
I'm going to continue exploring combinations with her and with my ART physician. I'll let you know what I find out.
I'm going to continue combining therapies with the laser. I'm going to see if my wife will do my back, don't have high hopes for that. She's not sick, if you know what I mean.
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Just bringing this back up to see how well you think this is working (anyone using it)?
I still didn't buy one yet, but still thinking about it!
thanks!
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I am using the green Jae laser that sweeps by itself and just did phlalates and plastics yesterday. Will continue using it along with the kit that Nurse A. provides. I noticed that my jaw got really tight after I did the laser for plastics and that is usually a herx/detox type symptom for me so I do think that there was some evidence of an effect. Will take more time to know more.
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Brussels
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I'm also using mine, on everyone of the family too.
I'm not using the detox vials, just using normal stuff as subsutitute to intake. Like one can take vitamins, herbs, abx, everything only though light, not through direct ingestion. I haven't bought the balancing and detox kits yet.
I'd like to know, if I buy the 'complete set' with nurse A., will it have everything that's listed in her website in? Can someone tell me?
I did Rizols for husband's candida (too early to say if it is working) and did a Chinese solution for cattarh for my little daughter. That I can say it worked. Just once, the solution doesn't test anymore for the last days, and she's got no more cattarh nor cough (it was hanging for WEEKS).
so in her case, the laser worked better than intake, IT SEEMS. It could be a coincidence though.
For me, I did the Rizols, I think I herxed but as I'm taking other things, so I can't be sure. Since the first lasering, Rizols don't test anymore, I wonder why. I'm on other herbs, maybe that's a reason.
I'm having a strange relapse of borrelia, I started to have muscle symptoms, pain, I had numbness on my face, that's a first for me.
I bought an adaptor of plexi-glass, invention of dr. K, so that I can use many different things at once (like put all my herbs, tinctures, vitamins at once) and laser that just once (90 seconds front of the body, 90 seconds back).
He said that most information coming back from the patient doesn't contaminate the vials if done like that.
I also had an amazing experience in the conference, while dr. K. was lasering a patient (an ALS patient...). Only though looking at the laser (or being there present), I felt I WAS BEING treated, not the patient only. The laser was not directed to me but to the patient, I was far away but felt something profound going inside me.
My lyme doctor was beside me, he usually almost faints with green lasers, and was as upset as I was (upset is not the right word, it's like we were being 'treated' by the light being flashed far away on the patient).
He also taught how to use on meridians. Flash the light just 5 seconds (no more) on a meridian or accupuncture point, then tap all the MFT points (similar to EFT points) after. I'm doing that too.
As for using at home, the best is to flash as far as possible, so that more 'field' from the patient is taken (close is not better, far is better).
If anyone knows about the complete kit of nurse A., if they get all the vials (colored ones plus all detox vials, balancing), can you tell me?
Thanks, Selma
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SForsgren
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I think it is two different kits. The colored vials and the detox vials.
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sixgoofykids
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I got the advanced kit from Nurse A and it was colored vials and detox vials.
She's really good at answering questions about the kit via email through her website.
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SForsgren
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Cool. Good to know. I got my original vials before there were the detox/drainage vials so that may have been why I got mine separately. Not sure. Thanks for the update.
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I got the 20mghz laser and it came with all the vials. I haven't used the detox vials. Just the normal ones. I was tested for the blue ones and they did nothing for me, so I don't use those. I mostly use the green and the red twice a day for 5 minutes.
I think the cranial sacral was great because I just had cavitation work, it really help draining the toxins from my jaw.
-------------------- Bob Posts: 2150 | From Maryland | Registered: Dec 2007
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This sounds really interesting? What is it used for? Is it just for detox, or balancing the body??
Six, How would I go about looking into this and possibly purchasing this?
Does it work just as well even if you are not ART tested for vials??
Thank for any info!!
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Shandy, I don't have access to ART, so, yes, you can use it without ART. I would guess it would be better to know if you really need the vials, but at worst without ART you just waste your time and the batteries.
The website for the laser is in the first page of the thread.
It is for detoxing and balancing. You will most likely not see dramatic results in regards to you Lyme, but I think every little bit helps.
I have used all the detox vials. There's really no way for me to know how much they helped since I'm doing so many other things as well.
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I just went to the website and read about it. I think I want to get it, even of it doesnt touch my lyme, at the very least it could bring some balance to me.
The directions were a little confusing, but my brain is like mush!
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SForsgren
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it is better to test with art and just because blue did not test for you in the past does not mean it will not in the future. that is why art is helpful - the body changes and its needs change.
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sixgoofykids
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Scott, do you know of any ART practitioners in Ohio? I haven't been able to find any. I do believe it would be a big help.
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shandy, if you stay away from the detox/toxin vials (which you should at this point in your illness, anyway), you don't need to ART test them. just follow her instructions:
green vial, then red vial, then blue vial.
sweep up the body with the laser 7-10 times.
sweep up soles of both feet 7-10 times.
sweep palms of hands 7-10 times.
then ears 7-10 times.
after that you can focus on specific organs and points if you'd like; ie, liver, tonsils, back of neck, sinuses, lymph nodes, spleen, etc.
if i go through this entire process with all three vials, it usually takes me 20 or 25 minutes. but then again Nurse A. says i'm a little OCD when it comes to lasering and thus go a bit overboard.
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Sixgoofykids,
thanks for the answer!
Selma
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Rule of thumb -----
Do not use the yellow vials unless you understand metal, pesticide, insecticide detoxing and know what to expect. They are part of the set for practitioners or people who do ART or other muscle testing. That's what I use them for - my husband is exposed to the vial and with muscle testing (ART) I can determine whether his body is presently busy handling/moving/detoxing/storing metals.
The same for the other yellow vials. I can test him if his body is actively dealing with pesticides at this particular moment. Do not laser with the yellows. It can test positive with muscle testing one day and negative a day or two later. That is only for muscle testers.
With all the other vials = blues, reds, greens -- the body will only pick up the frequencies it wants and needs. No harm.
The same with the drainage vials for tonsils = T lymphatics - L, Matrix = M ----- they are wonderful to keep help in certain areas around the body. I often use the M vial and laser in a substance (i.e. cilantro tincture, Rechtsregulat, or any of the rizole oils (one drop goes a long way...) into a hurting area -- the knee, a bruise, etc.
If I laser my husband's tonsil scars shinging it a few seconds into his mouth, I also have to clear my throat. Bi-directional. A drop of a remedy in the dip behind the earlobe (vagus nerve) and lasering a few seconds works well.
Lasering takes all of a few seconds in any specific areas.
Keep the laser away from the eye and away from children. Do not keep your vials next to any strong electromagnetic source, such as computers, etc. It is not a toy!!!!!!
Mine are in a box and basket - ready to be used in a location where I walk by often, so that I do not forget this wonderful tool. If I packed it away in a closet, I would not use it as often. Out of the sunlight and away from the heat outlet, etc. Just use good common sense.
It's a great tool if used wisely. No need to overdo it. The body will only take what it needs. No need to take clothing off as long as it is just undershirt and shirt -- without a thick coat, etc.
I am still learning about light and photons every day. Right now I am reading an interview of Prof. F. A. Popp and the discovery of biophotons- twenty pages long, that I ran into on the internet - but it is in German or I would point you toward it. It is fascinating. There is so much to learn - we are just at the beginning.
I do not laser when we dog-sit. Sumi, 16 year old poodle, sleeping on the other couch, took off like a rocket when she sensed the laser light coming by her. She was asleep until then!
Take care.
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I can't wait to be able to purchase this. My body DEFINTLEY needs some balancing!!
Thanks Heiwalov!! I am sure I will get it eventually, I will keep reading it over and over for my brain to soak it up!!
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Just bringing this back up. Looking for updates.
I actually just received this. I also ordered the lyme and coinfections vials, detox vials, and vaccine vials.
Now I have to figure out how to use all of this.... Ugh....
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Maureen, unless you have someone to muscle test, o learn o-ring testing, try a Biotester. That has become my favorite. You can test yourself and find which vial to use at which time, etc.
As a rule of thumb, stay away from shining the four yellow ones on you. They are mostly for testing to see if you are toxic with the content.
The 6 (L, M, T, D, B, K ) you know when you detox, use the specific ones. If the throat is sore, tonsils loaded, use the T for tonsils. If you have BM problems, use the B. L - to turn on lymphatics. K - to help the kidney. M = matrix for pain. You can rub on a pain relief creme and use the M vial in the chimney with the green light. Green lights calm. Red lights excite.
Take care.
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back to top for anyone that would like to report any success with the green laser. After much searching, a site was found where these devices are sold:
17hens
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NorthernLyme1,
Look at the bottom of my thread ***Bionic 880 & PE1 question for users*** (or something like that) and read what Bob and Six say about the green laser.
They posted about it today.
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