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I have been looking into purchasing an infrared sauna for detoxifying as there are many claims of mercury removal and other toxins that prevent someone from healing.
They are very expensive and I would like to know if anyone has one. The most basic 2 person model is about $1500.00-three times the cost of a gym membership. Many of the gyms do not have an infrared sauna so joining one for this purpose would be of no benefit. My LLMD suggested using one at least three times weekly for 15 minutes.
Thanks!
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If you live near NJ, there's a great sauna place in Palisades Park...
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Yes, I love it and use it at least 5 times per week.
You can get a portable model for less. I have a big, fancy 3 person one, but I know someone who uses the portable one .. it does the same thing.
You can find this at www.betterhealthguy.com .... look down the list at the left and you will find FIR sauna.
The person I know has a seated model and it was less money than that .... but I don't know where she got it though.
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We got a $300 single person portable tent style through National Pool Wholesalers.
It comes with a lifetime warranty. We put it to the test last month. The one we bought started to slowly lose temp, we mailed it back and they sent us a brand new one.
My daughter loves it. She won't let me in it. Afraid we'll cross contaminate.
Just a thought.
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I have one from Heavenly Heat.....it's AWESOME but was expensive. I use it every day and swear by it. It's made of poplar, I believe, and is completely non-toxic, which is what my LLMD wanted me to get. He's also willing to help us write it off tax-time!
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I live in fairfield county, I think Im gonna try the one in queens on a saturday.
IT LOOKS AWESOME!!!!!OMG!!!!!!!!!!OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for your replies. It sounds like it definitely helps . I think it is worth buying one. It will serve as my Christmas present for the next 10 years-hopefully!
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re: lymeHerx001 reply - I haven't tried the one in Queens since I live in NJ.
The one in Palisades Park, NJ is about 30 minutes from my home. It's less expensive since they give you coupons - the fee is about $20, so it's not too bad.
The one in Queens does look awesome! One day I'll try it.
The benefit of going to King Sauna is that the saunas are really amazing.
I've tried the home style ones & they are good but the huge saunas that thy have at the club are a whole other breed of sauna.
They also have steam rooms & hot & cold tubs.
I guess having one at home is convenient, though.
Some of the saunas at King Sauna get ultra hot & it may actually kill the bacteria as opposed to just getting rid of toxins. (This is just an assumption on my part - I don't have any scientific studies on this.)
You can alternate between hot & cold, too.
They also have a sauna with far infrared which is not as hot as the other saunas.
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The link is to a website on how the infrared sauna functions...how much more effective it is than convention sauna in detoxing. Very interesting.
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I'm also interested in purchasing a sauna, possibly....
there is not a good place on the island...
what about sunlight saunas?
they have a one person portable far infared, lay down sauna...it's around $1,800 -- they are supposed to have superior quality - tested saunas...but it was the sales man that told me all this...so take it with a grain of salt...
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It is a big investment and hard to make the right decision. I am looking for a company that gives a lifetime warranty so if I have to pay more I will because I think it will be worth it.
Be careful with the cheaper ones-you don't want one that uses veneers or toxic glues. The last thing you want is to get more toxic from something used for detox.
Also I have called many companies and a few have hounded me with phone calls,e-mails,etc. I am not comfortable with a company like this because if they are reputable, the product should sell itself.
Another factor I am told is important is the wavelength of the heat. The longer waves penetrate fat tissue deeper where all the toxins are stored. This is only what I have been told.
I hope to buy one shortly and will let everyone know how it turns out.
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so why would we want to heat some plastic in an enclosed area sweating, and breathing it in?
especially the sierra club article- where the rat cages were leaching BPA's and causing "chromosomal abnormalities"...
hmmmm....
Yes- I too have been bombarded with emails from companies- I agree- A sauna should seel itself, if good...
what do you think about the quality sauna warehouse one?
Yes, I was told the same about the wavelengths...14 was supposed to be superior??
If you wouldn't mind sharing some your looking at...I'd love it....
what wood do you think is the best non-toxic?
mahalos~
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-I am curious about how many lamp heads the small one use. One, a couple, more?
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yes, saunas do cause die offs.
its more from the action of the infrared lighting then it is the heat itself.
in the early 90s, raising one's body heat core for extended periods of time (103 degrees) was an experimental treatment for lyme.
unfortunately, it did not have the desired effect.
but, this does not mean that FIR saunas do not kill spirochetes. its kind of a double edged sword.
if you read about FIR sauna, it SHOULD relieve pain, lower stress, etc etc.
BUT, the LYME patient is different, because i believe the sauna actually causes MORE toxins to be mobilized, thus making you feel worse. and it will, for some time, depending on how sick you are.
the idea is that eventually, the more you do it, eventually you should start feeling better as your bacterial load gets lower and your herxes diminish. but, that does not mean it wont make you feel worse in the beginning, and, maybe every time.
the idea is that is pushes you beyond the level of healing where youre at, and from my experience, like most lyme therpaies, this makes you feel worse, before it makes you feel better.
i think its a great tool though, and i have one and use it once a week.
hopefully one day i can do it 3x a week and withstand the die off. i am not in the place where i want to cause big die offs, i am just starting to get some of my life back...
it come back to the same question, how sick are you and how much suffering are you willing t endure to get better?
good luck
deluxesauna.com 995 w free shipping takes forever to get there has 5 FIR ceramic heaters
kills the buggers!
humbly,
derek
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I have one. I bought it from national pool wholesalers. For $975. I found it on ebay and then researched it. It does have non-toxic glue/wood.
I have found it extremely helpful. On days when the pain is so great it gives me a break from the pain. It also helps with the long term detoxing.
My brother has a different type and loves his as well.
I love it....it was worth the money for me.
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Johnny, ours was $2900 for a one person model. Made of poplar, no glues at all, completely non-toxic. Our is the FIR1 model.
Yes, it was a huge investment, but I am in it every other day and feel SO GREAT when I get out. Just....aaah! So we saved up some $ and splurged. My LLMD also kept pushing (he does not have any kick-back relationships with any of them, just kept urging me to get one). So I took that seriously. I really think it helps detox. I also go in it after my Bicillin shot to distribute the meds quickly and take the pain away.
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Stupid question of the day...
Does it make any noise... humming, buzzing?
If inside.. can you hear stuff outside of it. Example... a phone ringing?
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I don't know if you can hear anything from inside but if not it's OK with me. It will be like an escape from people, phones, etc.
I'm looking forward to it!
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Thanks for the info Derek!
It's kind of an interesting conundrum... I've been definitely going through a period of worse pain but I also feel good from going to the sauna place.
I feel like if I keep doing it eventually the bugs will die-off more so the Cowden protocol will be more effective - but I don't know this for sure.
Since I go to King Sauna (I think I mentioned it a few times), it really amazes me why we don't have public places where people can use these beneficial tools.
King Sauna has several different types of saunas & they have one especially for women which is very hot, plus a salt sauna, a 23 K gold sauna & a couple with far infrared.
I think there would be alot less crime & illness if there were public saunas & baths available.
King Sauna is very Korean & many of the Koreans in the community here use it.
There are very few caucasians (or other racial groups) there.
I think they are really on to something & I wish more people in the US would learn about this.
I have also visited Iceland & they have many thermal pools there for the public to use.
There really should be more public saunas for people to use.
It seems sad to me that people have to all spend extra money to get a cheap sauna they can have at home.
I'm glad they are available but they are not like being able to go to a public one that is better made & more deluxe.
I guess it's just not part of our culture, yet... We all have to do the best we can.
PS - I've read about the info regarding xenoestrogens... I would not want to use a sauna with any plastic materials in it - it would be worth the extra money to avoid the plastic materials or glus.
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it's truly better to be lymee in russia cause 3 hours visit to public sauna (or russian "bania")costs 12 dollars only and thera two or more that I know for only 8 dollars unlimited
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hey sparkl, if only you could know how popular public saunas are here, not all of them are good (clean, good service, but these days there are two types of sauna lovers: some go there to relax with prostitutes and less ppl really come for health purposes
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Yes, Evgen... they have a Russian & Turkish bath in the Village (Greenwich Village in NYC, that is) not too far from me.
I never tried it since it looked kind of seedy from the website.
I actually found the Korean one in NJ because our hot water was out for a few days & I really needed to take a bath.
The Korean one (King Sauna) is all health, no hanky panky or alcoholic beverages.
It's very clean & the ladies area is separate from the mens.
There is a restaurant & some saunas that are communal.
The establishment gives you cotton shorts & t-shirts to wear if you want to use the communal saunas.
The baths, showers, steam room, & hot tubs are separate for men & women, though.
Mostly everyone is naked in the wet areas that are separated by gender.
I do notice there are few Russians & Scandanavians there but it's mostly Korean.
The rate is $20 with a discount coupon & you can stay as long as you want (until closing @ 11pm).
I imagine it's very traditional to Korea or Japan.
I used to travel alot & I've visited these types of places in many countries.
This one in NJ (surprisingly) is one of the best I've been to.
The one I visited in Amsterdam was co-ed & nude.
People there didn't seem to be all that uptight about it, though.
I think it may be a Russian thing to use alcohol & go to the sauna (& maybe indulge in other stuff - wink).
They have signs at the Korean sauna that the use of alcohol is forbidden since people can have heart attacks while in the sauna.
The Blue Lagoon in Iceland is something else if you ever get the chance to visit it.
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