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Tincup
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What is collegen?


http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-collagen.htm

Collagen is a type of protein. Fibrous in nature, it connects and supports other bodily tissues, such as skin, bone, tendons, muscles, and cartilage.

It also supports the internal organs and is even present in teeth. There are more than 25 types of collagens that naturally occur in the body.

Collagen is one of the most plentiful proteins present in the bodies of mammals, including humans.

In fact, it makes up about 25 percent of the total amount of proteins in the body. Some people refer to collagen as the glue that holds the body together. Without it, the body would, quite literally, fall apart.

Possessing great tensile strength, collagen functions in a manner that is very different from many other types of proteins.

For example, it can be found both inside and outside of cells. Collagen fibers are important in contributing to the external structure of cells. However, they are present on the inside of some cells as well.

Collagen works hand-in-hand with elastin in supporting the body's tissues. Basically, it gives body tissues form and provides firmness and strength; elastin gives the same body tissues much need flexibility.

This combination of collagen and elastin is very important in many parts of the body, including, but not limited to, the lungs, bones, and tendons. Even the blood vessels rely on both collagen and elastin.

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If they could find out exactly what Bb likes in the collagen and adheres to, and give us something else it can bind to (as for instance babesia happily binds to the sugars in heparin) then we could effectively nullify the spirochetes.

The way cranberry does to e.coli bacteria in the bladder.

That is the direction research should go in for bugs. Bugs will always evolve to resist abx or pump them out or figure out how to survive them. But if you're not killing them, and they are happily binding to a substance that feels like "home", they won't "mutate" not to do that. They won't "care". They're not under selective pressure in the same way.

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Thanks, TC! Sorry your brain had to sort through 40 pages ...... I appreciate the effort and additional information, though.

BTW, I didn't explain why I mentioned human-to-human transfer..... my thinking was the fact that nearly everyone in the Western world has had antibiotics at some point in their lives, which may somehow `change' existing Bb bacteria. Remember the recent thread about Phages? (And we all know people can have the Bb bug without presenting symptoms.)

I understand about `latent' forms of bacteria that many not grow in culture, but is there some point that these latent forms become active or pathogenic without passing through a tick gut? (Or, if we had Lida Mattman doing the cultures, maybe the outcome would have been different.)

### When addressing the spirochetes that survived antibiotic treatment they said..... "However, the residual few spirochetes appear to be altered in their ability to replicate...''

You know, at one point, it was thought that Bb couldn't replicate while in cyst form, which later turned out to be false. Often, 2 or more ketes would emerge from the cyst.

### And maybe some need to be reminded of the Borrelia life cycle--its vector dependent meaning for still partly unknown reasons it MUST go thru an arthropods system. ###

I know that's the prevailing belief, but there are researchers and LLMDs who disagree with that. I suspect that there is some mechanism or substance which can serve as substitute for the tick part of the life cycle. However, the resulting infection may present somewhat differently than that from a tick bite.

Cave said:
### ``Even higher on my wish list is getting the medical establishment to o.k. prophylactic tx....... A person doesn't always know that he's been bitten.'' ###

Cave, you mean in situations other than a suspected tick bite?

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Can I add my poor infected body to the pile of research??

Way back when I had scope surgery on my elbow because it was impaired movement wise.

At the time I was wearing,,, both hands,, My braces because hands and wrists were too weak. They made them feel better and added support to them!!

While going INTO surgery they were doing the nerve block. Didnt work fast enough so they gave me another.

Weird feeling to have a frozen limb,,,doesnt even feel like PART of 'my' body.

Afterward common deal,drink something,,,go to the bathroom,,,go home!!

They 'said' your arm will wake up in a couple hours. It didnt,,,stayed 'asleep' for over 24 hours,,,closer to 30 actually.

When it woke up I could tell something was different. It was completely normal,,I could bend it, and their was ZERO pain in hand wrist area.

At the time I was researching nerve impingement as a cause of the hurt and feelings. I "thought" the doc removed a critical bone spur and somehow released the elbow nerve causeing all of this.

Upon followup I asked him to do what ever he did with this one to the other. he said he didnt do ANYTHING to cause that.

AFTER I knew I had lyme,,,it suddenly made sense to me. Keets dont like being frozen,,,it either KILLED them,,,or drove them OUT to other parts of the body.

THAT arm and hand remained pain free for almost a year. keets are 'slow' dividing and it took that long for them to set up shop 'again' in that arm!!

NOW,,,how do I freeze my entire body at once?? Stupid as that sounds,,,it MAY erradicate the keets once and for all!!Bring on the cryogenetics,,I will try it,,,I will try anything!!

But in summarry,,,it was the frozen arm that stayed that way LONG enough to get rid of keets,,,so freeze me up doc!!

personally I think THIS sheds alot of light as to what we are going thru,,,life of keets and pain they cause!!

IF I had to do another scope and they would give me another nerve block,,,I would play double dumb and say,,,nope it isnt working!!

NOW researchers,,,how long frozen is long enough??Why NOT research freezing as a method of erradicating them??

BTW,,,ALL research is good research,,just not enough GOOD research!!says--just don--

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