The harder you work the luckier you get! Posts: 965 | From Nebraska Cornhuskers fan in Massachusetts | Registered: Dec 2007
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D Bergy
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I think the only way that Rife treatments helps inflammation is by killing the bacteria causing it. My wife will treat when her joints are inflamed and it will make it temporarily worse. The next day the pain is usually gone or greatly reduced. This is her same reaction to Samento, Cumanda, MMS etc.
Not sure on co-infections, but she did get a giant herx on babesia frequencies one time. Never happened again, and I have no way of knowing if she even had Babesia. In general Rife is not considered effective against co-infections.
There are Lymph frequencies that could help detox, but I cannot say they work as we have not used them.
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can you give me some basic infoon rife machine. is this electrocurrant therapy? i'd appreciate it thanks
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A Rife machine is a frequency generator or signal generator, if you prefer. These are used for various purposes, but when used in a manner developed by Royal Rife to disable, destroy or weaken pathogens, they are referred to as a Rife machine.
They are not truly Rife machines as his were destroyed years ago, and the new generation of machines do not work as effectively as his did. There are several people attempting to find the exact method he used, but it is still on going.
For all practical purposes they are known as Rife machines and they use specific frequencies for specific bacteria, viruses etc. The frequencies supposedly resonate with a sympathetic frequency that will break the cell wall of pathogens or damage them enough so they cannot reproduce.
This method works well for some pathogens and not so well on others. The Lyme spirochete is structurally very weak. It is fairly easy for the correct frequency to disable this form. On the other hand, the CWD form and cyst form are much more difficult to disable with frequencies. It is thought that these machines only work well on the spirochete form, and from my experience, I would have to agree with that.
The machines that are used for this are usually modified or specially built frequency generators that deliver the frequencies via plasma tubes or a contact method with conductors held in your hands.
My machine is a GB-4000 contact device and it has worked well for my wifes Lyme disease. It brought her from almost being crippled with joint pain, fevers and rages, to virtually normal in less than a year. It has not completely eliminated the disease, and I consider it a good treatment method but not a cure.
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I have never personally tried rifing. At one point I was looking into it and talked to my LLMD, who is very open to alternative treatments to complement my meds.
He said that he has seen better results from Cowden herbs, so he'd rather me spend my money there. Cowden, in addition to killing bugs, also focuses on building the adrenals and detoxing.
In my opinion, rifing is good for killing bugs from what I've read on the board.
However, if you're having inflammation problems, I wouldn't aggravate it more by killing off bugs even faster. I would look into more anti-inflammatory things you can do ..... try detoxing more.
I think killing off bugs is important, but I think that strengthening your immune system and getting rid of toxins is even more important ... though you do need to do both.
Things I do in addition to "killing bugs" is -- FIR sauna, coffee enemas, exercise (to what extent you are able, just enough to push yourself a little), water, water with lemon/lime, diet, supplements, herbs, sunshine, rest.
I think all these things are what have helped me get better so quickly. I really think we underestimate the value of exercise and sunshine. I know some people can't even stand, I'm talking about doing what you can. It's good for stimulating the immune system.
Ultimately we want to get so our own immune system can handle this .... killing bugs is good, strengthening the immune system is even better.
I haven't written off the idea of rife, I'm just not adding it at this point.
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You make some really good points. I think i need to be more patient and do some more of things you are and some of the other folk are sugguesting. I think since I have only been treating lyme and bart for a very short period my bacteria load might be to high for a rife machine.
I do the tradional sauna, drinks tons of water and I am now taking chorella. I'm currently building a new home and will have an FIR put in the master bedroom. Look forward to that.
I do excersie a lot. But this last week or so i could barley walk do to a real good herex. I think I have a lot of bacteria between by lower back and hips. So when I herex that where most of my pain is.
I need to learn more about coffee enemas. I have seen this on several posts
The harder you work the luckier you get! Posts: 965 | From Nebraska Cornhuskers fan in Massachusetts | Registered: Dec 2007
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I agree that detoxing is more important than killing more bacteria. People that do not detox well do not usually get good results with any treatment since the recirculation of toxins prevent any noticeable improvement.
When the bacterial load is reduced, this is much less of a problem. Kill slow, detox fast.
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The only thing my wife has used for detox is Burbur. She rarely ever needed that. She naturally detoxes well.
There are many people here that know much more about how to detox than I do. I just know that you cannot feel better until your system is cleared. I do not give my wife anything that kills Lyme until she is clear of the dead matter from the last treatment. Her reactions tell me everything that is going on, most of the time.
I would guess you are taking plenty already, but time is the other factor. When you feel better than normal, you are probably clear.
Sorry I could not be of more help.
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The frequencies listed in the CAFL (Consolidated Annotated Frequency List) for treating inflammation are 1.5, 3.6 and 2720. It also says to see Infection general sets. I don't know if that would kill bugs or not. Well, of course the infection sets would but I don't know about the inflammation frequencies.
I've never tried those frequencies. My machine can't go to 1.5 or 3.6. I do use different frequcies for removing lymph plaque. I think they help but I'm doing a lot of other things to clear my lymph so I don't know what is helping for sure.
For inflammation you can use: enteric coated proteolytic enzymes on a empty stomach such as serraflazyme
Mega doses of fish oil bromelain Rutin Turmeric quercitin Feverfew Noni by nutramedix
You can change your diet too.
Search at LN for more info.
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