Thank you so much for posting a much better reply than I did to Dudeplanet's post!
You did an awesome job!
I just wasn't thinking in the same direction nor near as deep as you.
I focused more on the insurance issue, but you certainly provided a lot of very helpful and valid information about some other issues of much concern and importance.
I hope you've been able to help them alot!
I'm definitely still learning, thus I'm working on knowing more and more each day, and you definitely taught me some new things too!
Love, Light, & Health, Jennie
-------------------- My Lyme dx:11/05. My Mom's Lyme dx:5/16. ISO ASAP-Lyme Literate Dr & Neurologist-Prefer IL, IN, KY, MO, OH, TN. Can travel farther. Finances limited. Prefer Drs take Medicare or Payments. Need great list to find best fit. Tyvm. Posts: 701 | From Owensboro, KY | Registered: Sep 2005
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I actually deleted it about the time you were posting.
I can't think of how to say what I want to - can never get it just right so I just zapped it.
I think what you said was right and very well said!
I hope you reconsider and post another reply to him again!!!
Love, Light, & Health, Jennie
-------------------- My Lyme dx:11/05. My Mom's Lyme dx:5/16. ISO ASAP-Lyme Literate Dr & Neurologist-Prefer IL, IN, KY, MO, OH, TN. Can travel farther. Finances limited. Prefer Drs take Medicare or Payments. Need great list to find best fit. Tyvm. Posts: 701 | From Owensboro, KY | Registered: Sep 2005
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Thank you for your guys emotional support. I appreciate it, and Jennie no I don't mind you saying that.
The reason I put that up there, was simply because I wanted eveyone to see not everyone gets the help they need.
I don't want to shame anyone, or make anyone feel bad or like they're not doing what they're supposed to. I don't know what I would be doing without this site.
My story, along with so many others, is just an example of how important this bill is. Fact of the matter is, it shouldn't be all on the LLMD's shoulders. They shouldn't have to pick up the slack for other greedy doctors and insurance companies.
That's what I want to see changed. I want to see medical insurance do what they lied to us about what it's supposed to do. I say lie because medical insurance was originally started to make money, not to help those less fortunate recieve medical care.
It's sad when third world countries have better medical care than a world power.
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I realize that and think everybody else does also!
Yes, it's very important, especially for people like you!
I agree, nobody should have to pay for those who are wrong!
I'd like to see it changed too!
You're right, it is a lie!
Yes, it is very sad, indeed!
Love, Light, & Health, Jennie
P.S. Has Tincup been able to help you? I sure hope so!
-------------------- My Lyme dx:11/05. My Mom's Lyme dx:5/16. ISO ASAP-Lyme Literate Dr & Neurologist-Prefer IL, IN, KY, MO, OH, TN. Can travel farther. Finances limited. Prefer Drs take Medicare or Payments. Need great list to find best fit. Tyvm. Posts: 701 | From Owensboro, KY | Registered: Sep 2005
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I got an email back, but there's a thunderstorm in her area so she had to shut down her comp, she said she'd email me back later.
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I'm glad to hear you got an email from her, but sorry to hear she's getting storms in her area, so she had to shut down her computer.
I'm sure she'll email you back, as soon as she can, though.
I'm anxious to hear if she's going to be able to help you or not!
From what's she's said, I think she can.
Please let me know how it turns out!
I'll be thinking of you hoping and praying she is able to help you finally get the help you really need!
Love, Light, & Health, Jennie
-------------------- My Lyme dx:11/05. My Mom's Lyme dx:5/16. ISO ASAP-Lyme Literate Dr & Neurologist-Prefer IL, IN, KY, MO, OH, TN. Can travel farther. Finances limited. Prefer Drs take Medicare or Payments. Need great list to find best fit. Tyvm. Posts: 701 | From Owensboro, KY | Registered: Sep 2005
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You know, this really brings home the point of WHY isn't there some more centralized fund raising for covering uncovered Lyme Disease medical help?
Is this something the Lyme Disease Association or Turn the Corner Foundation could spearhead?
We expend so much energy here talking about how we can't access treatment, why can't some of us or someone get a fund going to help us, just like LymeAid 4 kids does??????
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That's a good idea Tracy. I don't know how one would go about setting somthing like that up though. If anyone has any ideas, let us know.
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I was just thinking, maybe if enough LLMD's can put some money together, they can get at least maybe a head start on a grant. I'm going to try and look up info on creating a non-profit organization.
If anyone has any info that would be useful that would be great to.
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Instead of trying to reinvent the wheel, wouldn't our energy be better spent trying to work with the Lyme Disease Association, Turn the Corner Foundation, or ILADS to try and create some funds for this?
13 years Lyme & Co.; Small Fiber Neuropathy; Myasthenia Gravis, Adrenal Insufficiency. On chemo for 2 1/2 years as experimental treatment for MG. Posts: 4480 | From Northeastern Connecticut | Registered: Jun 2005
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That's if they're not already spread to thin. It's worth a shot, but if they simply can't do it, then we may just have to invent another wheel.
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I know for a fact there are LLMD's out there that are more than willing to and have helped many people who can't afford testing and care.
Just because they don't advertise doens't mean it isn't done.
Do you realize that like a Neuro, Gyn, Rhuemie, and all the other specialists LLMD's are listed as PCPs or Family practice?
They are highly specialized but not recognized as specialists. So the insurance companies pay them the lowest they can for sometimes 2 and 3 hours appointments.
No wonder they have you bill your insurance co. yourself. You get reembursed the amount your insurance co would have paid a GP.
When our LLMD's are recognised as specialists and paid by the insurance co accordingly, then I am sure many of them will accept insurance and medicare/medicaid.
Come on guys, give them a break and be thankful we have these doctors that are willing to risk everything to help people no other wonderful DUCK can or will help.
Look at what our dear Dr Jones is going through.
Just my two cents worth...............
HUGS,
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please read this carefully from DOC DAVE AKA STYMIE LYMIE; IT'S WHAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING ABOVE!!!! ******************************
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DOC DAVE,
glad you got to compare notes with kATAk.
if you get the chance read JENNIE...jennie with DOUBLE LETTERS FOR EACH LETER IN HER NAME!
why drs. cost so much, and insurance NOT paying etc. in MEDICAL
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can you share any type of a progress report with all here on the special foundation you are trying to set up for those UNABLE TO AFFORD TO GO TO LLMDS ?? ************************
this has been a hot topic lately here; any input would be great! thanks my "new KNEED" friend Dave!
Bettyg ****************************************
I HAVE USED ALL CAPS ETC. FOR EMPHASIS!! bg ****************************************
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betty,
unforunately things have been put on hold for now due to my knees and building the new house.
i will approach a charity tomorrow and see if we may be included in their handouts.
my community has a very strong charity and collects 50-100,000 in dollars each year. ******************************************
it is a logistical issue, as it is too difficult to start a charity,
and LYMENET AND LDA DOES NOT WANT TO SUPPORT IT; THEY WANT THE MONEY FOR THEMSELVES.
if you know pat smith well, maybe you can contact here for some advice, since she shunned me off.
it really needs to go thru them, LDA!! **************************************
i also have a president of a large tech company that wants to get involved but we can't get started without someone to say "YES, THIS IS OUR CHARITY AND WE SUPORT IT 100%!"
it is for the need of lymies in need and without support from the lyme community my hands are tied.
betty, if you could help me find a LYME SPONSOR, them maybe i could get the wheels rolling.
do you really "kneed me anyway" lol
docdave ***********************
so who want to help DOC DAVE on this? here's a person who has been working with me for about 1 year BEHIND the scenes in trying to help many of you who do NOT have the $$ to see llmds/treatments!!!!
i'm swamped helping daily here with my newbie package, sending out llmd names to 20-45 NEWBIES DAILY AND IT'S BEEN LIKE THIS FOR ABOUT 2 WEEKS STRAIGHT AND I'M TIRED! plus my answering all PMS that are sent to me.
the newbies are finding me BEFORE i get a chance to welcome them here when they see my name on seekign dr. forum!!!
dave's given you some info; now how about organizing to get A LYME SPONSOR!!! he has the $$ from many who are PHILANTHROPISTS!!
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now, let's work as a TEAM to get this started for so many of you needing it!!!!
Definately!, What is a Lyme Sponsor, and what do we need to do to get one? I am pretty good at writing letters, speaking, and research. Point me in the right direction.
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Might I suggest that if you post something.. try to do it by not kicking someone with information that is not true.
"LYMENET AND LDA DOES NOT WANT TO SUPPORT IT; THEY WANT THE MONEY FOR THEMSELVES. if you know pat smith well, maybe you can contact here for some advice, since she shunned me off. it really needs to go thru them, LDA!!"
1. Pat is busy. Last I spoke with her she had meetings in 5 different places (states) in 5 days. Anyone who writes to her gets the same sort of answer.. IF they get one.... which is...
Short and to the point. I've written 2 pages of explanation and discussed a variety of things.... and for all that effort...
The reply she sent me was a simple one word reply. ...
"no"
If I took that as being shunned off or took it negatively... it would be because I have NO clue what she does for all of us. It is because she is busy volunteering every waking moment for us 24/7.
2. The reason the LDA, ILADS, etc can not do this is because it is NOT in their by-laws and rules/regs of their organizations. Each organization is set up and given federal/state tax status and they have rules they MUST follow.
The LDA is for research and education. It was not set up years ago for paying LLMD's fees in court... supporting charity drives... etc. 96 or 98 percent.. figures close here... goes directly to research and support. No office building, no paid employees with benefits, no frills or thrills.
Saying they want to keep it to themselves is NOT fair when it goes to the purpose it was set up to do... and in a way that is much more efficient than most charities.
3. If the LDA ... which is all volunteer were able to accomadate every request everyone in the country made of them.. there wouldn't be enough people to handle all the details. It is kept afloat by Pat and some chronically ill patients who volunteer their time when they are well enough... and it does so much already that it couldn't do much more.
4. LymeNet is given a donation from the LDA to help keep it afloat. The rest comes from patients and supporters. It is also not set up to take on charity causes... as it is one itself.
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That said...
If anyone wants to set up a fund, please do. But don't expect an all volunteer organization to jeopardize their own status by being involved in things they can't do... and stretch themselves so thin they can't do what they do to help you all.
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"The information I'm referring to is not so personal and/or confidential it can't be compiled much the same way LLMD contact information is now."
Actually it is. Imagine this...
You are in a store and going through the check out line and the cashier says...
"We have a charity to support the Johns Hopkins research fund and would like to know if you will make a $5.00 donation to the cause?"
Imagine them saying that in front of a line full of people behind you that can hear you.
I don't know about you, but to me it is personal who I donate my time and money to. I also don't want to be pointed out because I chose not to donate to Hopkins when every spare nickel I've had for years goes to help Lyme patients... and other charities of my choice.
A LLMD should be afforded the same respect.
Plus.. I have never seen a LLMD who didn't donate to help others.... ever.
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"I'm simply suggesting a delineation of our current list of LLMDs in such a way those who have agreed to donate some of their time to help the less fortunate are more known."
Again I would say no. Who, when, where they chose to donate whatever they want or don't want is totally up to them... and they should not be put on a list... or on the spot.
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"That would not lead to any LLMDs experiencing an unmanageable influx of free patients, when they are free to exercise sole discretion over how much time they choose to donate."
Actually that is exactly what happens. Again, any time, money, etc that is donated by a LLMD should be their decision and theirs only.
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"While they could never donate enough to help everyone, who is less fortunate, when they choose to help some of them, it's much better than them choosing to not help any of them."
This is said with a tone implying that they don't donate. They do. They should not be pressured to do more. If that happens they will most likely have to start saying no to everyone. I would.
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"Most charities strive to maximize their available funds and in turn, utilize them, as efficiently as possible, to serve the needs of as many people as they can with what they have."
A doctors practice isn't the same as a charity organization.
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"They should be free to set their own limits, but at least, choose to do something, because that's better than nothing."
Again this is assuming they aren't already doing more than their share. They are doing more than they should already.
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"Clearly knowing the ones who do donate some of their time to the less fortunate would provide a clear path for them to get the help they need, but would not get otherwise."
Unfortunately, no matter how we slice it... there are going to be people who will not be able to go to a LLMD because they can't afford it... can't make the drive... etc. If a patient is unable to afford the cost... it is not the LLMD's fault. It is the ducks that got the patients in this spot to start with.
If a patient is in need, they should keep trying to they find help. We all need to keep pushing to make changes that will help us. It isn't easy, but that is the situation right now.
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"It's not up to anyone to decide what anyone, including a doctor, should spend their well-earned money on. If you make an honest living, then you deserve to spend your earnings however you want, within reason, of course."
Exactly!
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"It would be nice to see those who have chosen the LLMD profession come together for the common good of those they serve, who are less fortunate, and extend some real effort helping them, by realzing they won't get the help they need otherwise."
They already do. Because someone may not hear all the things they do, doesn't mean they aren't being done. To make assumptions they don't isn't really fair to them.
thank you for your comments about setting up a charity, and other stuff you know about LDA happenings since they are a SMALL all-volunteer SICK LYME patient group!
you've given suggestions here for all who have been reading this post; dave has told of people has has lined up who will donate $$$.
i'm in NO position to spearhead this.... **************************************
i do have an idea i will send to another member to see if they might be able to find out info from someone who HAS established a CHARITY IF they get a chance to see this person!!! betty
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Well fiddle. I didn't respond to this one yet...
"Hi Tincup,... At the same time though, how can a person be helped, if they're refused to be given the information they need?"
If someone would like to contact a specific LLMD's office and ask if they have a sliding scale.. or special arrangements, they should.
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I am not trying to judge anyone... simply relaying what has happened in the past.
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Please don't assume I will abuse the information, just because others have.
I never assumed you would.. sorry if you took it that way.
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By severely resticting my access to it, especially without gathering some background information on me, doesn't seem fair to me.
I am not restricting your access to that information. I simply think it is not a good idea to have a list of LLMD's for folks to contact who have helped others in the past. I think some patients need to do some things for themselves.
Example- I won't tell folks which insurance some doctors take... because sure as I do... they will go there and the office doesn't participate anymore.. then people get angry with me.
By giving someone the name of a LLMD over another.. and saying you have to pay for one and not the others... it will overload that LLMD... and if the LLMD can't do it.. the patient is going to lose faith in you and the LLMD... and it might just make the LLMD upset enough that no one gets a break.
Example- Years ago our local town decided to have a "ladies night" at the movies on Monday. All females paid only $1.00 to get in. It was wonderful! We sure appreciated it. BUT...
Men complained because they had to pay $2.00 to get in.
Rather than giving the men a break or deal... they decided no one got a deal anymore. Everyone then had to pay $2.00.
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"I'm far from a troll and/or untrustworthy. I have lyme and am trying to get well, just like many others here, including yourself."
I haven't seen anyone suggest you are a troll... especially me. I happen to think most of your posts are very kind and helpful.
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"In the meantime, all I want to do is use it to help others, possibly even myself. Without it, I can't, but with it, I can. I help people here, when I can. All I ask for is the same, in return."
If you would like some help with the fees... please call a LLMD of your choice and directly and ask them if they can help you. That is the same advise I would give to anyone who would need it.
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"If this board is truly about helping people, then I really wish someone would help me. I promise you can trust me. I don't know what else to say to help you see that."
I don't think anyone thinks you aren't trustworthy. Not at all.
And I am not even sure folks have a list of doctors who might be able to reduce their fees. I know I don't keep that kind of list... and I've kept lists for over 20 years... back when we didn't even have LLMDs.
I kept a list of who NOT to go to back then.... cause that was all we had. It was called the worst of the worst list.
Thankfully... because of the kindness of the few doctors who are working to help us... we still have the worst of the worst list.. but we do have a few LLMD's.
While going to your LLMD... can you try to educate a local doctor to work with them? Maybe that would help you and educate someone that can help others at the same time?
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tc:at least now i know why i she would not help, and maybe my words were too strong.
what i need now is a lawyer that can help me establish a charity base for lymies in need. it will be all volunteer and 100% of monies minus expenses will go to lymies in need. all i want to do is help, and have the means, i think to collect some monies.
i do not know the process and had a hard time just sending money to people in need over the last 2 years. if someone could help me it would be greately appreciated.
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Suggestions..
Contact lawyers in your state and ask them who might be able to set up a charitable organization for you. Here is one site that may get you started.
If they don't help or can't do it, then ask them to refer you to someone who can. They usually have a list of referrals.
And/or contact your local Elks Club, Lions, Moose, VFW, Red Cross, etc and ask who they have used to help them.
They don't need to be Lyme literate to help set up an organization. Plus... most Lyme literate volunteers are swamped with projects already... and are sick themselves and/or have sick family members..... so looking for someone to commit to something extra, within the community, well... it would be difficult to find someone I would think.
Before you approach an attorney you will need to get all information straight as to exactly what you goal is and how you plan to accomplish it. On paper is best. Then they can suggest what they think would work best for your situation.
You might also Google book keepers or accountants to see if they can assist you because the tax work, filing stuff, etc can be difficult if you are unfamiliar.
Keep in mind, it isn't an easy process and takes a good while to file and do all the paper work... so you need to prepare to stick with it once you get it going.
That is one of the reasons folks haven't just "done it" before.
And your work helping others has always been very special to so many. Thank you dear one... and keep up the good work!
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I started this post, never thinking it would become what it has.
Lately, I haven't replied to anymore posts nor do I feel like I will, in the future, at least, right now, anyway.
It really upsets me some of what I've said has been misinterpreted, thus misunderstood.
For that reason alone, some of my very words have been turned against me.
I'm going to leave it alone, rather than stir the pot though, because I'd rather there be peace.
Although I'd like to see the situation change, I have my reservations it ever will, yet I still wanted to pose the question.
I don't have the time and energy to argue nor do I need the stress, as I'm already sick enough, from what I'm having to endure, although not by choice.
So, for now, anyway, I'm just going to agree to disagree with those of you who don't see the situation the same way as I do.
For those of you who are fortunate enough to afford to see your LLMDs, good for you.
If you're ever in a situation where you can't though, maybe then you'll either begin to understand or understand even more.
For those of you who are less fortunate and can't afford to see a LLMD, thus your health is deteriorating, along with your quality of life, my heart breaks for you.
I will keep you in my prayers.
To try to change the situation, when you don't even know where to begin, is tough, especially when you're already sick.
Hopefully, someone, somewhere, someday will be able to successfully change it though.
I would try, if only I had more support, but unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case, at least, right now, as far as I can see.
Without a doubt, the need is there.
The willingness, on the other hand, is not.
It truly saddens me, but it does take more than just a few people to move a mountain.
I've always been for the underdog though and always will be, even if it has nothing to do with me.
Just like lyme, the less fortunate are the ones who are pushed aside and squashed, where many may actually listen to them, but few ever really hear them.
At the same time though, if something unfortunate were to ever happen to those who aren't really listening, then they would soon be the ones wanting to be heard.
Please feel free to share with me any kind of positive ideas, big or small, you can possibly think of, if you will, toward trying to positively change the situation.
I'll then consider whether or not I really feel like I can actually use it or them, in some way, to truly try to positively change the situation.
If I feel like there's a fairly likely possibility I can, then I'm certainly quite willing to give it my very best effort.
Otherwise, please do not reply to me about anything to do with the situation.
Rather than have to deal with any negative connotations, I'd really just rather forget I even brought the subject up.
Thank you for your understanding.
If someone can help Slappy2779 here, somehow, manage to get the help he needs and deserves, which results in him being afforded the opportunity to see a LLMD, then I will be quite happy, just by knowing, at least, one good thing came out of me even bringing this subject up.
My thoughts and prayers are with you Slappy2779.
Best wishes to you, my friend.
Love, Light, & Health, Jennie
P.S. I changed the title of my post to what, I now feel, is much more appropriate, especially after all which has been said, at this time.
I now feel, I really should have used it, in the first place, instead of my original one.
I truly understand why LLMDs don't take insurance, thus that's not exactly the real issue I want to address.
Instead, after further consideration, I realize, the true issue is I'm looking for some real working answers, as to how alot of us here can work together, somehow, to try to find a way for those less fortunate, who really need and deserve to see a LLMD, to be able to do so and actually make it happen.
Perhaps that's where alot of misinterperations, thus misunderstandings, about some of what I've said, originated?
-------------------- My Lyme dx:11/05. My Mom's Lyme dx:5/16. ISO ASAP-Lyme Literate Dr & Neurologist-Prefer IL, IN, KY, MO, OH, TN. Can travel farther. Finances limited. Prefer Drs take Medicare or Payments. Need great list to find best fit. Tyvm. Posts: 701 | From Owensboro, KY | Registered: Sep 2005
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I just want to share something that has been helping me. I know it's long, but I thought I'd add something positive with hope.
Psalm 37 1. Fret not thyself because of evildoers, neither be thou envious against the workers of iniquity,
2. For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the green herb.
3. Trust in the Lord, and do good: so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed.
4. Delight thyself also in the Lord; and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.
5. Commit thy way unto the Lord; trust also in Him; and he shall bring it to pass.
6. And He shall bring forth thy righteousness as the light, and thy judgement as the noonday.
7. Rest in the Lord and wait patiently for Him: fret not thyselfbecause of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.
8. Cease from anger, and forsake wraith: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil.
9. For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the Lord, they shall inherit the earth.
10. For yet a little while and the wicked shall not be; yea thou shalt dilligently consider his place, and it shall not be.
11. But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
12. The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth.
13. The Lord shall laugh at him for he seeth that his day is coming.
14. The wicked have drawn out the sword, and have bent their bow to cast down the poor and needy, and to slay such as be of upright conversation.
15. Thier sword shall enter into thier own heart, and their bows shall be broken.
16. A little that a righteous man hath is better than the riches of many wicked.
17. For the arms of the wicked shall be broken: but the Lord upholdeth the righteous.
18. The Lord knoweth the days of the upright: and thier inheritance shall be forever.
19. They shall not be ashamed in the evil time: and in the days of famine they shall be satisfied.
20. But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the Lord shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
21. The wicked borroweth, and payeth not again: but the righteous sheweth mercy, and giveth.
22. For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off.
23. The steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord: and he delighteth in his way.
24. Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the Lord upholdeth him with his hand.
25. I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.
26. He is ever merciful and lendeth; and his seed is blessed.
27. Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore.
28. For the Lord loveth judgement and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.
29. The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.
30. The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgement.
31. The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide.
32. The wicked watcheth the righteous, and seeketh to slay him.
33. The Lord will not leave him in his hand, nor condemn him when he is judged.
34. Wait on the Lord, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land: when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it.
35. I have seen the wicked in great power, and spreading himself like a green bay tree.
36. Yet he passed away, and, lo, he was not: yea, I sought him, but he could not be found.
37. Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace.
38. But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off.
39. But the salvation of the righteous is of the Lord: he is their strength in the time of trouble.
40. And the Lord shall help them, and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked and save them, because they trust in him.
-------------------- C.D.C = "Country Doesn't Care" Ticks are like Snipers, you don't know they're there, until you see the bullseye. Posts: 86 | From Upstate New York | Registered: Jun 2007
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Honestly, belive it or not, it's one of my favorite Psalms!
I'm reminded by what a friend of mine said to me once, which I'll never forget and often think about.
In a way it's funny, yet so true.
They said, "I've never seen a U-Haul behind a hearse".
In other words, whatever we have, we can't take with us, only what we've done.
Great words to live by, indeed, I do believe!
Love, Light, & Health, Jennie
-------------------- My Lyme dx:11/05. My Mom's Lyme dx:5/16. ISO ASAP-Lyme Literate Dr & Neurologist-Prefer IL, IN, KY, MO, OH, TN. Can travel farther. Finances limited. Prefer Drs take Medicare or Payments. Need great list to find best fit. Tyvm. Posts: 701 | From Owensboro, KY | Registered: Sep 2005
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Thank you, I just hope this passage will inspire others and uplift their spirits.
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You're quite welcome! The feeling is mutual. Keep the faith!
-------------------- My Lyme dx:11/05. My Mom's Lyme dx:5/16. ISO ASAP-Lyme Literate Dr & Neurologist-Prefer IL, IN, KY, MO, OH, TN. Can travel farther. Finances limited. Prefer Drs take Medicare or Payments. Need great list to find best fit. Tyvm. Posts: 701 | From Owensboro, KY | Registered: Sep 2005
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To those interested in creating an entity for this purpose, please see my other post. I will give pro bono time to this but need help from others.
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Jennie - don't give up - you are raising a vital issue here, one that affects so many people. Things start because someone raises the issue. Looks like we have at least two people so far on the board here who may help set up the charity foundation.
We all need to have patience with the process of setting up solutions. In fact, we might have just gotten started here and I am eager to see what develops.
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Thank you for the encouragement, as well as the patience reminder!
I'm glad to hear there are 2, so far, willing to help!
If you count me, then that makes 3!
I've offered to be DocDave's right hand, if he thinks he can put up with me! LOL!
I'm certainly looking forward to seeing what develops out of this too!
Love, Light, & Health, Jennie
-------------------- My Lyme dx:11/05. My Mom's Lyme dx:5/16. ISO ASAP-Lyme Literate Dr & Neurologist-Prefer IL, IN, KY, MO, OH, TN. Can travel farther. Finances limited. Prefer Drs take Medicare or Payments. Need great list to find best fit. Tyvm. Posts: 701 | From Owensboro, KY | Registered: Sep 2005
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