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The tensor and pendulum will only work if you use them in the right frame of mind.
Attitude, calm, TV off, no noise, no wishes. If you cannot free yourself of expectations, do not ask the tensor.
Do not forget that using the tensor takes the most serious concentration and is really demanding.
If naysayers gather around you, do not let them be present or wait until there is calm around you. Skeptics put out their own energy, most of it carries over to you and it can falsify the results of the tensor.
Pay attention to jewelry or quartz watch you are wearing. No thick rubber shoes. You have to be grounded. If you feel hot or cold - wait. If you are tired - wait. It takes energy - your good energy.
Catch a breath of fresh air or drink a glass of good water before you start.
Dr. W. never used my tensor, even when I wanted him to show me something -- saying "it is yours".
If surrounding and your own attitude is not right, it will not work for you. Don't try - because it won't be satisfactory for you.
Take care.
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very interesting dr w thinks each tensor belongs to its user. different way to look at things..
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Agree 100% with Gigi for energetic tests 'conditions'. The mind has to be free of expectations or you'll get the answer you would like to get. And never do it if too tired.
The pendulum consumed so much of my energy to make me shaky. It is not your 'physical' energy, but deeper energy. It's the most essential energy, that is of course, also used for healing.
I thought my O-ring tests didn't consume my energy, wrong. They do. Less than the pendulum for me. So now I don't do to other people as much as I did before.
Dr. K. thinks the pendulum and muscle tests are different things, because one is the physiological reponse while the other, more in the energetic field (if I understood it well).
In a Belgium shop I go to buy my herbs, they sell pendulums and one type of biotensor. No client is allowed to touch these stuff, and are not allowed to test. The owner dowses herself, she is categoric: no testing allowed. Same as for dr. W.!!
It makes me think about stories we hear of clocks stopping to work when their owners die!
Such instruments work wonderful with small children, because they have an open mind. Truly open, compared to older kids or adults.
As for rods to dowse and find water or finding the net of magnetic field in the houses: a friend of mine does it professionally. He's got all types of instruments, from the simplest to the most expensive ones. He bought them all in Germany and did his course there too, in the most known institute.
He prefers the simplest, the cheapest one. He said, it varies from person to person, and he prefers by far the simplest rod which is just a piece of metal in L-shape (copper if I'm not mistaken). I mean, two pieces of metal, because one needs 2 L-shaped metals to find where the magnetic grid is located.
He said that his German instructors almost always prefered the simplest models to the most sophisticated ones. They don't know about 'open' and 'close' regulations, so they said that sometimes some people can't do it.
I used these 'rods' too, they do work to find out the 'magnetic grid' of the earth. But one can do it without instruments, only with muscle tests. Dr. K. showed how to do it like that, only with his 2 people muscle test.
All these instruments are just amplifying what your body already can feel/ see.
I am curious to see if a more sensitve instrument would bring more precise answers than mere muscle tests!
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Are there doctors in Germany and other EU nations doing this on the highest level of medicine such as deciding if particular drugs should be used for chemotherapy on a patient? I mean life or death situations. I didn't know it was so prevalent there.
it's one thing to say I shouldn't take my binder pill today. If I'm wrong..what did I lose? If I'm wrong about my earlier example, well I may have killed my patient. That shows true faith.
Thoughts are appreciated. I certainly would like to see a doc do this on me and enlighten me. Posts: 7545 | From The 5th Dimension - The Twilight Zone | Registered: Mar 2008
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GiGi,
Question, If we are sick, how can our energy be good? Do we still produce good energy?
If I waited until I wasn't tired,cold,or hot, i would have to wait forever as these are some of my daily symptoms.
What do we do in this case? When would we test?
Thank you, Feelfit
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I don't think you will see most medical doctors using dowsing to decide on treatment. They would be subject to malpractice suits in a minute...
On the other hand, it took me 10 years in a Lyme endemic area to find a diagnosis of what was wrong with me. I saw many "specialists" that were MDs. I would like to sue but my tests were considered negative for Lyme. I had a clinical diagnosis, finally, after about 9 years of being ill.
Dowsing & applied kinesiology are controversial. Some people swear by it & others think it's quack stuff. It's hard to say. I use dowsing & I'm not completely well. I don't think I've ever been 100% healthy in my whole life.
I think you just have to try it & see if it helps you. Read the books & info, study it & practice. Some people have a knack for it & others don't... just like anything else.
If you don't have a knack for it, you could try finding a practitioner who uses this method & try it.
Some people have gotten alot of damage & unnecessary suffering due to "modern" western medicine. So, you have to take the good with the bad in any modality.
The only thing you can do is try it to see if it helps you.
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quote: GiGi,
Question, If we are sick, how can our energy be good? Do we still produce good energy?
If I waited until I wasn't tired,cold,or hot, i would have to wait forever as these are some of my daily symptoms.
What do we do in this case? When would we test?
Thank you, Feelfit
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A curious thought came to mind about science and proving the use of dowsing. I've seen this commercial by exxon where they say they are drilling for oil using frequencies. The person specifically says you can't see these or feel these frequencis, but they can find oil by them. Hmmmmmm!, sound like dowsing (trying to use a dana karvey twang to it - karvey says "sounds like satan" kind of imagine the pronunciation).
I tried giving a cursory look for anything on it, but couldn't. But, wouldn't it be funny if exxon was involved in alternative sciences! Or is exxon really desparate to find oil?
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Is there anyone here that uses a pendulum, also have a Biotensor? I am curious if you get the same answers. Has anyone tested ART,pendulum,sway,O ring,bio tensor against each other? Thanks Joyce
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Bob- I think the frequencies that EXXON uses may be related to HAARP technology. There are certain frequencies that they can use to "see" inside the earth's crust. It's not dowsing...
The HAARP facility can also be used to produce low frequency signals. These signals are identical in all respects to more commonly known broadcast signals like AM, FM and Television except that they have a lower frequency, typically less than 15 kHz.
Signals in this frequency range can be produced in the ionosphere by modulating the HAARP transmitters at these frequencies. Research utilizing low-frequency signals is exploring several possible applications.
One of these areas is geophysical prospecting, that is, the search for underground mineral resources. In this highly sophisticated field, one of the conventional approaches takes advantage of naturally occurring signals originating in the upper ionosphere that penetrate into the Earth's crust and reveal information about underground structure.
This technique is limited because the natural signals occur in random fashion. In contrast, the low frequency signals produced using HAARP, although not as strong as those occurring in nature, are known precisely in time and phase, and more sensitive detection techniques can be utilized to great advantage to yield potentially significant improvements in the field of geophysical prospecting.
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Santa Cruz - there are communities of people who practice different forms of dowsing. There are schools of dowsing & associations of people who practice it.
There are different techniques & ideas as to the correct form or which method to use for various purposes.
You may be able to contact one of them to see if they have compared the techniques. Look up "dowsing or dowsing organizations" on Google. I also found blogs with interesting info about it.
I think it's a personal thing. Some people prefer one over the other...
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Healing in Santa Cruz.
quote: Has anyone tested ART,pendulum,sway,O ring,bio tensor against each other?
Yes, I have seen all of them being done by Dr. K. and others in similar situations. The respected physician Dr. Yoshiaki Omura does little else but O-ring testing.
You forgot the arms length testing, which is another type many doctors like and use. One of my favorite practitioners in Germany uses nothing but the tensor and she runs a fabulous practice. One I have talked to today at length about her work with the Bionic does nothing but Muscle Testing. It is only a matter of preference.
I have been around this type of testing for too many years to even think of doubting it. There are times when the will can come in the way, and at that point and if it is an important decision, I would let others that do it well do the energetic testing. One has to remain self-critical enough to know when one can remain neutral enough to self-test. I certainly would not make a life and death decision with a tensor or similar tool alone. I would consider all choices.
Take care.
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quote: posted 31 October, 2008 10:32 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GiGi,
Question, If we are sick, how can our energy be good? Do we still produce good energy?
If I waited until I wasn't tired,cold,or hot, i would have to wait forever as these are some of my daily symptoms.
What do we do in this case? When would we test?
Thank you,
Feelfit,
Everybody has a certain biorythm during the day. I test best in the morning when fresh and rested.
In one of my earlier posts, I told how to test to see if your autonomics are blocked. (the fingers forming a crown!) If you are in a blocked state, it is to your benefit because you can test what is most important for your body to get out of that bad state. You hold that item in your energy field, near the body, and if it unblocks you, that is definitely the medicine your body needs most at that particular time. If you feel louse, it probable will be a drainage remedy, something to help the liver, etc.
Whatever opens your regulation to normal is what you should be using.
You must have to try it on one of your better days. If you can sit in front of the computer typing, you probably should be able to test yourself. If you have a partner who learns it too, naturally that is great too. You can test each other.
Just remember, whatever changes your blocked regulation is what your body most wants and needs. Maybe read it again - I described it in a post above --- hand forming a crown on top of your head, etc.
Get together with someone in the same predicament as you are and the same desire for self help - and you can do it!
Take care.
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Thank you GiGi. I wondered when the explanation was coming from your 2:51 post.
, Feelfit
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Thanks Sparkle and Gigi, I appreciate you replies. I am a very long time pendulum user. One thing I learned from a very wise lady is to ask that all blocks and negative energy be cleared before using y pendulum. Sometime it swings for a very long time. I get totally different answers before doing this. My MD muscle tests and we get the same answers most of the time. I am grateful to have this tool.
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Here's one from the Netherlands that also seems to have a string. But don't know what the other 2 metal parts are.
The Biotensor are in combination with practised, sensitive and pure PEOPLE complete separately test apparatus, for testing energetic situations and or functions in and for the human body. The Biotensor are suitable for putting diagnoses, but also for localising electrosmog, magnetic fields, aardstralen, water veins and several disturbing objects, which people, animal, or plant can make sick. The Biotensor are an apparatus that work on the present ultrasounds. Since everything in the universum ultrasounds exist the Biotensor spend us the possibility of measuring this. The Biotensor are made by us itself and can at us be ordered. Also reparareren we your biotensor.
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Oxy, yes, I looked at the tensors - not much to see. The wire of one of them looks very long - . It is very difficult to decide without handling it.
The cord, by the way, is not something to increase sensitivity. It is used for testing objects and substances without having to hold each individual one in the hand. In other words, you walk down the aisle of the grocery store, you touch the plug to the bottle on the shelf (with the left hand) and tensor in front of your body with the right hand. That way you can scan many products on the shelf without taking each one into your hand and holding it in your energy field. You can scan your whole supplement tray quickly as to which one your body would like today. (It changes daily, for certain).
You can also use it to test vials with substances. You hold a pesticide vial in your left hand and touch the plug of the end of the cord to it. The tensor (with the other end of the plug in the handle) "moves" over the food or fruit or supplement to be tested. If you get a resonance between pesticide vial and the food, you know you have a pesticide contaminated food. Or a bad vitamin a la china.
Test the garlic you want to eat by putting it on the right side and touching the plug to a mercury vial on the other side. You know then right away whether you should eat that garlic! or the garlic supplement. You can test all against different contaminations. All you need to do is start collecting some vials for testing.
The tensor picks up the energy, runs it through the handle and through the cord to the other end of the cord/plug. Just like an extensio cord with a plug on one end and a plug on the other end stuck into the tensor handle.
If you test just the normal way, you remove the cord from the handle of the tensor.
It is a fantastic way to move quickly through all your toxin vials, microorganism vials, different fungi vials, treatment medicines, etc. and test them against your own body or against the person you are testing. That way you can determine quickly what your body is up to. If you test positive for little else than drainage remedies, you know your body needs help - your liver is screaming or your kidney is under stress.
My,, is this difficult to describe in words. Warning: Don't buy a cheap tensor - it's wasted money, if you really want to do yourelf or someone else some good. A cheap one is probably also more difficult to practice and learn. I could not do a thing with the ones that were given to me at one time. There are a few things in life where "you get what you pay for" -- it applies here. Knowing you, I know you would start swinging with a good one.
Take care.
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I just sent the email to work with [email protected] Olaf Schaefer for acquiring a "gold biotensor". GiGi you already knew I had tested which version. And, I used my biotensor whether I should order or not.
I'm really looking forward to seeing the difference in using this new tensor. After having such success with a cheaper version. I do feel like I'm becoming extremely good with it. This doesn't mean the cheaper version will work well with everyone.
I no longer test positively for lyme with the tensor I'm using nor mercury. I want to corroborate that with the better tensor, which is much more sensitive. I don't test for many things now and I am thrilled.
The one thing I didn't expect is how helpfull a tensor can be in identifying energy blockages. GiGi, did you have experience with unblocking energy as well as cranio sacrally improving fluid dynamics and flow within the body? I'm guessing if you have a good biotensor you can use it to self treat both.
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Are there any doctors / health practicioners in Michigan that can prove to me this works? I have seen chiros use Nutritional Response Testing, but this seems different.
As I said, it seems so farfetched and unbelievable in theory. However, links indicate there is some use from major institutions.
I'd like to see someone prove this to me WITHOUT a medical history. That would be revealing. Any chiro can derive a reasonable "need" for your body if you tell them all your ailments. Whether right or wrong, I could easily pick 10 diseases that could account for symotoms.
I could envision myself with the wand making my way through each grocery aisle. Then security would escort me out quickly.
Would someone educated at NRT be good at ART?
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Okay what the heck. I can't know which one works except Gigi likes hers and I've certainly been known to spend as much on a couple pair of Citizen of Humanity jeans!
So maybe I will order a gold one. I do find my journal the most helpful of all but that is a hassle to test every little thing in a journal. I tend to use the journal for bigger questions.
The only thing is, I would rather have a wooden handle. I don't like holding metal, period. But the other one I posted about--I have no idea if it's any good.
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seekhelp -- I'm convinced, hopefully others will respond.
You could start using GiGi list of practioners and make calls to find if the biotensor is their main diagnostic equipment. What they do in their practice and how successfull they've become. A better way is to nominate one person to make the calls and report back.
If I had to nominate anyone person who people might feel comfortable with is "tracy9". Sorry, Tracy for putting this burden on you. I just think you would be a great person to act as unbiased, and you have my vote in this election year. A complement to you, I hope.
I'm hoping to help solve all of our problems and distrust. Because thinking this is farfetched is the same as the IDSA thinking chronic lyme is farfetched. I'm not downing your viewpoint just trying to say we have to unlearn to relearn at times. I spent 70 dollars hoping something like a biotensor works. I've thrown away 70 dollars on worse endeavors. Now I believe I should spend more and get the best.
I'm just reporting what I'm experiencing.
Some questions:
> is there any device that can analyze substances better then human being, and if you can think of one please name it?
I don't know of one.
> how does the body determine how to break down food and distribute to the body, for energy, for repair, for regeneration?
We don't have the technology to reproduce the function of a single finger nail.
> how large a database is the human body to know how to process all the information required to function?
The three dimensional pictures we see and process including sound, smell, and localization is factorially more powerful then any computer in existence.
> Does the brain contain enough memory locations to store all the information from our memories?
My answer is no, it is more likely our memories are holographic in order to store that shear amount of data. And storing data is what I do for a living. And here is where light is involved and possibly why certain light brings function back to alzheimer victims.
So farfetched, we shouldn't feel too comfortable of what we really know.
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Steel and I were just using my new biotensor (the gold one from Bioplasma. I like it SO much more than the little inexpensive one I had.
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I sincerely hope this method helps each user find health . However , I must respectfully say that I agree with funk that is seems eerily similar to the ouija board we had as kids .
If it works , I am happy . But I can see no legit science behind it or rational explanation to promote it . I do hope the use of it enables some who can believe it to improve.
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Funk et al, I have a cerain inclination to share your feelings, but there is probably some solid science behind many such reported effects. The mind is more powerful than we suspect; life itself, too, evidently has a certain unfathomable power. My theory is that "dowsing rods" and other such devices may aid some people in focusing their minds, and/or life energy, thus boosting perception to a point that might seem impossible. While I have not ever "tried" such a "device", I have seen remarkable results from meditative chanting and other mind-focusing activities! Thus, maybe we shouldn't be all that quick to dismiss such procedures.... (of course whether a given "focusing tool" is worth it, is another matter-- all take a cerrtain amount of energy (or money, especially if the inventors of a given process are alive and not as compassionate as they might be- but still the result may quite possibly justify the expense in some such cases (I always recommend looking at all the alternatives!)....).
..the power of music can be quite remarkable, too... DaveSPosts: 4567 | From ithaca, NY, usa | Registered: Nov 2000
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Thanks to both annxyz and funk for your criticism. I respect both of your points of view. Hopefully we will have prove someday with explanations to satisfy you both. Until then people will post their experiences that will lead to more rigid scientific scrutiny someday.
My guess, the scientific community in the US won't review its merits for some time. However, in Germany this is quite another story. The following it lists the use of the biotensor and not the ouji board. And maybe the writing of Physicist Kiran Schmidt might offer a little more insight into the position.
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Maureen2174 - Yes, mine did come with the string. You can order it through bioplasma but since they do not take credit cards, you would have to transfer funds to their account.
Regarding the science behind the biotensor that some are discussing here - as I try to wrap my mind around the 600 page book I just received, I'm pretty sure there is good deal of science involved, otherwise I would have an easier time reading it Posts: 1129 | From Maine | Registered: Feb 2008
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I just want to challenge those that are hesitant in believing in the claims of a biotensor. Many of the physicians from Europe posted by GiGi use this device. Why don't you ask some of the practioners what they use and is there any science behind it. What brand they use and why.
If a device could more accurately set your protocol isn't it worth a little investigation. Isn't the term science "to know", not guess.
GiGi posted the list of practioners somewhere, all you have to do is make a few calls. If you do that, just report back and let us all know what you find.
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Nano- So, I am assuming you send money through paypal to order it? Do I just go to the site and send an email telling them I want to order one?
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It is my feeling that these energy tests are more done in Germany than elsewhere in Europe, even though there are a few in the UK, France and Belgium using these energetic devices.
Of course, most physicians in Germany don't use it and think it's crap.
I feel though that there's no need for a biotensor whatsoever, that our bodies themselves ARE like biotensors. What these devices do are only magnifying what the body already tells us.
I use muscle tests when I'm tired, so that I get an easy and fast response with little concentration.
But when I'm well, I don't need muscle tests anymore. I just go with my hand over a multitude of bottles and I see my hand being pulled toward one of the bottles or another (or my hand just moves away from the drawing or box, meaning, not in need of anything here). It takes from me lots of concentration though, and energy.
I learned that with my lyme doctor, who does ART. He will choose from a box full of homeopathics like that, a bit like what practioners of ART do with the plexiglasses in combination with muscle tests, going "page by page" after which vials test.
He's got the plexiglasses and is trained in ART, he also practices muscle tests and the pendulum, but when he has to choose among a big list of things, he'll let his hand show him. It's much faster than muscle testing one by one.
When he picks up one or few bottles, he'll muscle test on me to confirm what his hand found out.
Muscle tests won't work if there's an anesthestic involved. Like when you'd like to take cavitations off, your teeth is under anesthesy and your dentist would like to go after the cavitations further. Muscle tests won't work because the area is numb.
The pendulum though works, and I'm pretty sure the biotensor will work as well. Because they are not exactly the same. One is a physiological response (muscle tests) and the other is more an energetic response (pendulum, biotensor).
Just picture out the scene: you got your mouth open, one tooth with 2 decade old root canal is pulled out, the dentist sees awful 'pockets' of infection in the hole (that he didn't see it in the X ray). He starts drilling and taking off what he sees, then suddenly stops because he feels it is okay to his eyes. He's already drilling your bones.
He gets the pendulum or a biotensor, and start testing point by point. Muscle tests from the patient (me) gives no response because my body cannot find anything in the numb area due to aneesthetic. Only with the pendulum or biotensor testing, he will drill further, until the pendulum or biotensor shows no more need.
I can swear the dentist drilled a lot more into my bones. I'm glad he did, because I kept feeling one of the parts he was drilling was THE problematic part for decades (causing me dull pain). His eyes couldn't see the problem, only his pendulum could.
I trust the guy because I know him for years now. But it was scary, I mean, that I knew I had to trust him this way. I'm now grateful for not having this awful pain anymore.
But for the ones that think the biotensor is magic, well, it is not. It is your body that does the job.
Have you ever thought why do you get thirsty or hungry? It's merely the cells of your body communicating to you that they need nutrients or energy, through hormones whatever, but it is communication from your cells.
Why can't the body tells us more things than mere hunger / thirst urge?
Having said that, I'm certainly curious to try a good biotensor one day!! Posts: 6200 | From Brussels | Registered: Oct 2007
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HI SELMA!
I went throught the same thing in December 2006 ,than I had no clue about lyme and I did not even know how to spell the coinfections.
My Biologic dentist surgeon /best in North america( after solicitating all of them in USA and Mexico-was about to go and clean my root canls that were hurting like hell and my jaw was locked) had a homepathic doctor that used not only muscle testing but his biofeedbak machine.
When he had to see which anestesy worked best for my -he tested my body.
Also he tested bleach or iodine to clear my cavitations after the removal of my 12 mollars that were infected.
But when MY surgeon could not see the infections anymore...he would test one tooth at the time.The machine and his test would show that was still infection in my jaw -even though with the eys my surgeon could not see anything anymore.
Than beilive it or not , it showed that on my right side it was more infection beyond the bone.HE drilled and drilled..and it was scary -again I had full beilif on it and BINGO.
Pus start coming out...it was scary as it was just below my right eye , I could feel it pulsing and was bothering me ( since I know was the bite 5 years prior to that )and I had done a root canal to another surgeon and the place would contantly hurt and mostly on top of my head right above it.
he drained and drained until the test showed that the bone had higher posibility to recover.I stand the pain and I am glad( he said he had never had somebody endure this kind of surgery for so long without even saying a world).
He had no clue that I was so sick from LYME -that my level of enduring pain was HIGHER than normal people.Funny though he saw that OREGANO oil was MY MAIN treatement ( bart ) and I showed that I needed a homepathic formula That had BACTERIA cord form energetix-treatment ( well lyme 12X , 30x , 200x) was in there and I herxed like crazy .
He was scared when I said ( I might have lyme as I was shacking in my bed (now I know -oregano and the homepathic formula that were taking apart made me herx like crazy).
Anyway ...it was right that I was num in my entire body ...so he used the biofeed back to check each tooth and each cavitation and make sure thye were all cleaned.
Imagine if I had gone to another surgeon that did not have that tool and I stil lwould have had all the cavitations in me..
My jaw healed perfectly.He also used the LIGHT 30 minutes in my jaw right after my surgery.HE sid it speeds up the recovery( the light -that I checked now was PHOTON).
I can not beilive that I was lucky and beilived on this ( thanks to DR K -I read a lot about him and Hulda Clarck theory -and beeing a member in Curezone for a long time )I recovered .My gums and entire mouth healed in TWO WEEKS.I followed HUldas protocoll on every step and Biofeedback , muscle testing and PHOTON!!
I feel LUCKY -as that infection could have really killed me for real.My heart was giving up as too much infection was going on and I had CLOTTS moving in my leges and arms WHEWW !!CAn not beilvie I survived all that !!!
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quote:While I have not ever "tried" such a "device", I have seen remarkable results from meditative chanting and other mind-focusing activities! Thus, maybe we shouldn't be all that quick to dismiss such procedures....
There is no doubt that meditation offers an array of scientifically verifiable benefits to practitioners. Its effects can be measured, with MRI scans, blood pressure readings, oxygen consumption, other indicators of the relaxation response, lower stress hormone levels in the blood, etc, etc.
To compare meditation, a legitimate and efficacious medical therapy with a mountain of peer-reviewed scientific data behind it, to the biotensor is to do meditation a great disservice.
Exhibit C- Pubmed search "divining rod" returns 15 hits, 12 seem to be relevant. Most of it is pre-1960 and german with no abstracts. Some of the titles are entertaining though (looks like you can use a biotensor to find gold-- might be an easy way to finance lyme treatment):
quote:4: Arkko P. [How did the divining rod and soil radiation phenomena become connected with cancer?] Duodecim. 1986;102(13):862-71. Finnish. No abstract available. PMID: 3757829 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
5: ELBEL H. [The divining rod and earth rays (radiesthesia).] Dtsch Med Wochenschr. 1960 Sep 16;85:1681-9. German. No abstract available. PMID: 13726308 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
6: KRUISINGA GC. [Remarkable cures by the effect of a divining rod.] Hippokrates. 1960 Jul 31;31:466-71. German. No abstract available. PMID: 14412251 [PubMed - OLDMEDLINE]
7: FRIESTAD O. [A study on the divining rod with reference to muscular function.] Tidsskr Nor Laegeforen. 1957 May 1;77(9):388-9. Norwegian. No abstract available. PMID: 13442979 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
8: VAN DEN TWEEL LH. [Considerations on findings in examination of divining rod soothsayers.] Ned Tijdschr Psychol. 1953;8(4):291-6. Undetermined Language. No abstract available. PMID: 13099422 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
9: VON ROLSHAUSEN F. [Experiences on earth rays of a man using a divining rod.] Hippokrates. 1952 Aug 31;23(16):459-61. Undetermined Language. No abstract available. PMID: 12989881 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
10: PROKOP O. [Physician, divining rod, and terrestrial radiation.] Offentl Gesundheitsdienst. 1951 Dec;13(9):337-42. Undetermined Language. No abstract available. PMID: 13026051 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
11: KATZ E, PAULSON P. A brief history of the divining rod in the United States. J Am Soc Psych Res. 1948 Oct;42(4):119; passim. No abstract available. PMID: 18889445 [PubMed - OLDMEDLINE]
12: Moorehead WK. THE DIVINING ROD AND FAKERS. Science. 1931 Jul 10;74(1906):42-43. No abstract available. PMID: 17742488 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]
13: Bryant EC. THE DIVINING ROD. Science. 1931 Apr 3;73(1892):365. No abstract available. PMID: 17797556 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]
14: Tolmachoff IP. THE USE OF THE DIVINING ROD IN GOLD PROSPECTING IN ALASKA. Science. 1931 Apr 3;73(1892):365-366. No abstract available. PMID: 17797555 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]
15:Browne CA. OBSERVATIONS UPON THE USE OF THE DIVINING ROD IN GERMANY. Science. 1931 Jan 23;73(1882):84-86. No abstract available. PMID: 17790944 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]
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Hi Alv, this is an amazing story. As for the pain you got, so sorry. I also felt some pain while the guy was drilling even with anesthesy. I felt exactly he was doing something on the cause of my more than a decade dull pain. I felt it, he said, yes, it can happen even with anesthesy, specially in places where the infection is.
When I left the dentist office, that dull pain was simply gone. Like magic, impossible to believe. The pain of the surgery was not bad, I took no abx for it, only homeopathics, he did a tooth homeopathic 'juice' with my crushed teeth, I had no problems at all.
My heart was a bit uneasy when I left the dentist, but after the time, now, I feel so grateful. Grateful that I don't have to fight these cavitations anymore. You name it, nothing came out in X rays. The infection was visible only when the tooth was out.
I went to 4 dentists, they saw nothing. They say, your teeth with old root canals look great.
Incredible story that the guy found pus inside a hole drilled in your bones. Almost unbelievable. And there are still dentists that believe in X-rays to find cavitations.
These tests then saved your life! So amazing.
are you planning buying a biotensor?
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Good stuff Funk and some very good research. Yes I too agree in meditation and exercise. The problem with exercise, it can only be done when the body is in balance both in enzyme production and minerals. Lyme and co. sure screws that up.
I'm guessing we won't find too much in English for scientific studies on the biotensor. You have to speak German to get to them. Maybe GiGi or Gabrielle can find some information to go on there.
There are certainly a vast number of european sites selling different varieties.
But here's a site involved in the nature of ring theory part of the working part of tensor.
However if you want to call the doctor directly and query. We would learn more what is academically available about the device and why sooo many people are getting such positive result from the Physician Dr. W. using both an LED and a biotensor for diagnostic work.
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The BioTensor hasn't been around that long. I believe it was recently trademarked by a German company.
There is only one company that makes them & developed the research behind it. There are places selling "BioTensors" but they are imitations of the original.
I haven't tried it but it is related to dowsing & applied kinesiology.
People have been meditating & dowsing for probably 1000s of years. I think applied kinesiology has been around for maybe 40 years. The BioTensor was maybe invented in the last 10 years...?
It's very new so I doubt you would find many studies about it - especially since it's a trademarked item.
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HI Selma ! Same with me No body could find anything wrong with my teeth.I recall I told my dentist that my lower JAW hurts like hell and that is in MARCH of 2006 ...( I have been through hell 3 years prior to that changing nightguards) and seeing specialists ( diferent ones ) -OH YES they told me I had tooth sensitivities .YOU THINK !!!With all coinfections in there ...
Anyway even my own dentist that has the best most advanced machines in his office and the best Scaner for the head..could not see that cavitation .
Only the Biofeedback machine and muscle testing and testing each tooth and bone ( as a biotensor -touching each tooth and bone after scrapping and seeing the chart of regeneration showed the truth -this is the most advanced metod ( only sanoviv hospital in mexico had that )..could see if the cavity was clear or not.
I have had the biotensor for more than 3 months.The first time that GIGI mentioned it it reminded me as I knew for it since FEBRUARY 2007.I also used to use pendulum before and had read a lot of material s long time ago and Beilived on it -but pendulum was very hard to master..
That is the reason I searched for a LLMD that was in Dr K list .
But I am planing to use the best one as GIGI recomends and I need to collect NOSODES ( toxins ) but BART mostly as this is the MAJOR ONE in MY FAMILY .I hate that bug.
Biotensor is the part of my life.I test everything and IT helps me tremendously .The changes were dramatic the last 2 months as I was able to master it better and better.My findings match the one to my ND and my LLMD.They both use Muscle testing -arm sitting position and Lying in the bed ( whole body ).
I used the frequencies on RIFE only based on Asking the biotensor -I even ask how many minutes I need.I get hits on all of them .
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www.hildegard.info - This is where I purchased my Bartonella nosode, as well as many others.
I had no problems communicating with them and getting my orders. I discover new needs often and order them as we need them.
Once you start treating, you will find out and come to the same conclusion as I did many years ago ---- Lyme has many legs and arms - before the tick and after --- and in order to get back to total health, all need to be treated. Again, like peeling an onion. It takes persistence and patience. And learning as you go along.
But the Bionic simplifies it so much -- it beats, as far as I am concerned, any other approach.
Take care.
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GIGI ! It has been more than 3 days that I have emailed them but no answer so far.
Do you know the name of the BARTONELLA NOSODE as it does not come up on the chart.I found though Lyme under "borrelia ".
Ironicly I forgot Italian and GERMAN ( I used to be fluent many years ago ) thanks to LYME .Well I can not complain as last year I barely was making sense in my own netive language.It is comming back but so slowly ..( I am inpatient). Do you think calling them directly ( speak in ENGLISH) will be better ?
No wonder with neurolyme you can not retain information for long term says DR Jones.I do not blame him ( all this years of school and eksperince gone thanks to LYME)
Yes GIGI !I have no doubt that I have to "Peel of the onion " and that is the way Out..We are learning every day !I am so open to it!!!
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Alv, Hildegard do not confirm your e-mail. If they have all info, they will just ship.
If they don't have your credit info, phone them, and then they ask that you follow up your order with a fax. That's how I did it the first time around. I got all Lyme vials and many others as well as heavy metals. Make your request brief - they do not speak English all that well.
I had no problems and still am ordering new things as I find them.
Hope it works for you. They usually send them in globuli form - not liquid vials. It is also much safer and easier. Order the 1000K.
e-mail me privately or call if you wish.
Take care and be well,
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Alv, great you're mastering the biotensor! I also cannot live without energetic tests (I even don't know how life was without them).
i test absolutely everything too, shoes, clothes, where to rub my homoepathics, what food to take, etc.... I'm kind of excessive, but I guess until I still have one or another persistent infection to fight (now I'm on a fierce candida-fungi fight), I will still rely on these tests.
Good luck in finding what you want in the Hildegard site. I have a few booklets from this wonderful lady. They are sold all around in Germany and Switzerland.
I'm almost sure that Hildegard used energetic tests to find her plants to cure. If not a 'real' test, a very intuitive test, similar to the one I described above (that my lyme doctor does). Just my guess though!
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