Topic: Mold in our house - big health issue/ ozone is working!
sparkle7
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EM stands for Efficient Microbes... Matrix Microbes may have some aspects of EM...?
There's alot of good info about EM on the internet. I don't have time to post a link right now. It's very useful stuff.
Good to hear it's working out well, bejoy. I've heard about ozone for a long time now. I never tried it.
Just be aware that the liver & kidneys have to process all the junk your body may be exposed to. Give them lots of support. The liver is quite resilient. You may not know that the liver needs help until it's pretty far gone.
Just my experience...
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bejoy
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I can't sleep, so thought I'd post an update.
Today I threw out the plants. Very sad, as I have had most of them a long time and they are quite healthy. I didn't want to do it, but just took them all out to the trash all at once, and pitched them.
I came to the conclusion that they have mold in the soil, and there is no way to get rid of it without killing the plant. After all this, I don't want to have these little breeding grounds throughout the house, that I know must be carrying all the strains I react to.
I'll get new plants, and probably shine some UV on the soil after I get them to give me some piece of mind.
Today I ozoned more stuff. I got a large plastic box, filled it with stuff, and pumped ozone into it through a tube.
I did a down comforter, some heavy quilts, all our pillows, all the stuffed animals, and the baskets and some ceramic pots that the plants had lived in.
Then I threw a tarp over the bookshelves and ozoned each of them for about an hour and a half each.
These were all in rooms that had previously been treated, but I was still getting a mild reaction to some of the items.
Tomorrow I plan to pump ozone into the washer and the dryer. My face gets a little hot and red while doing laundry, so I have a feeling about them.
Last year we got rid of our old washer and dryer because we knew they were moldy. Even my husband felt sick when opening the dryer, and he doesn't tend to notice or acknowledge this kind of thing.
Now I understand why laundry used to exhaust me, and took me all weekend to do as my one and only activity.
I'm using oregano oil to kill mold in my body, and seaweed to soak up the mycotoxins. I also exposed myself to plenty of ozone today, that is prbably working in my body.
I'm also doing plenty of liver, kidney, and lymph drainage and support.
I need to learn more about how to manage the toxins and get them out. I have achey fibro tonight that feels like I had a heavy workout at the gym, but have not lifted much for a while. Took ibuprophen, but still can't sleep.
I still have not read Schumakers book, the classic on mycotoxins. If anyone has suggestions about how to get the toxins out, I'm all ears.
-------------------- bejoy!
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lymemomtooo
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bejoy...so glad things are turning around..Just be careful in case there is danger from too much exposure to the ozone..
The first time we went to see shoe, he suggested a room air filter that had ozone. Later he said absolutely not..Not sure what the danger is but just be careful..
The plants are probably a good thought. I put mine out in the summer and bring inside in the fall. I am bringing in mold annually. Some debunk this mold crap but I don't think they live with it.
Outside the mold is in check with other things but not inside. Continue improving. lmt
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bejoy
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Thanks for the warning, lmt. I'm doing my best to be careful not to inhale much 03. I know it can be a serious lung irritant. But just being around it is probably having an effect.
I can understand not using the ozone air filters. I would not want to breathe it constantly. Also, it degrades rubber and plastic, so you would constantly be living in off-gassing noxious materials.
Come to find out, our hot tub has an ozone generator in it. My husband knew, I didn't. It is not very strong, as we still have to put in chlorine from time to time.
My hot tub has been a powerful detoxer and treatment agent for me over the last couple of years. I assumed it was just the heat, but perhaps it has been the ozone too.
I'm ozonating my washing machine today. It douses as having mold in it, and smells a bit like it too. I'm hoping an hour will do it, and not degrade the belts and gaskets.
Then I'm re-doing the living room, where all my plants have lived while I did the rest of the house. Still a mild reaction in there.
I've been told again by those with expert experience that this ozone "doesn't work." Perhaps they had more or different molds and mycotoxins in the house. Perhaps their sensitivities were stronger and more devastating.
I was worried about my "fibro" symptoms the other day...then I remembered that I had hauled about 200 pounds of cement chunks out of the crawl space and up the stairs. Maybe it was just a little normal soreness after all.
Still not ready to spray the Matrix Microbes, but that's next after the living room, and one more round in the corner of the basement that was the dampest, and now has gotten aired out.
After all this my plan is:
Homeopathic treatment made from air sample collection
Biophoton treatment with homeopathic to reduce allergy response and stimulate immune system to eliminate specific mold and toxins from the body
General allergy treatment through antibodies collected from saliva and made into homeopathic remedies
I don't expect to remove every single last microbe and toxin from my environment, but I do intend to retrain my body to be able to handle the normal amount that most people can expect to be healthy in.
I'm not running marathons yet, but my windows are clean, and I think I'll do the floors today. Something is working.
-------------------- bejoy!
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Marnie
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It is vital that people understand that high levels of ozone (O3), if BREATHED, is extremely toxic to our lungs and can kill us!
A UVB light is also capable of destroying MANY pathogens, but is obviously also very dangerous to us.
That "blue" wavelength is very powerful and very dangerous and is the one that can trigger skin cancer.
Many moons ago, when I was a nurse, if a patient had a communicable disease and was placed in strict isolation...
when they left the hospital, the room was sealed off and a sterilizing unit was run for several hours. I remember it left a white powder on everything.
The ozone layer in our atmosphere helps to protect us from very harmful "rays".
There is a little ozone in our lower atmosphere where it loves to combine with fossil fuels (car exhaust) triggering an "ozone alert"...esp. for those who already have a hard time breathing (asthma, etc.)
Gamma irridation is the "ultimate"(penetrates everything) and this form is used to sterilize medical equipment.
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Truthfinder
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Sounds like things are coming along nicely, bejoy.
I wondered about using UV light, too. That's what is used in those big commercial Reverse Osmosis water purification machines. And if you think about it, do you ever see mold growing anyplace where there is direct sunlight?
UV light can degrade fabrics and other substances eventually, but I don't know how much exposure it takes for that to happen. There wouldn't be any residual gas to worry about.
You would also see any place in the room where your pets may have urinated - I remember using a black light to find areas where a cat had sprayed when my friends bought a house a few years ago.
UV light might not deal with neutralization of mycotoxins, though. As I understand them, mycotoxins aren't something `alive', so there's nothing to kill. The mycotoxin issue seems to be a separate problem, and using fans and negative pressure is probably the best way to get rid of the mycotoxins.
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AliG
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Thanks for starting this Bejoy & others for info. Power failure caused sump pump to fail & my basement is now swampland.
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