And read about the slow food movement.
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Thanks for the links.
Doesn't seem there is any way to avoid being affeced by all these environmental or food related problems.
I guess just being educated about the truth can give us some sort of knowledge of how to try to protect our health.
Those of us with compromised immune systems are in a continuous battle to keep our body clean!
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There are ways to minimize the risk.
Try to buy local foods, organic, from farmer's markets. Stay away from processed food, and animal protein raised in CAFO's (what most of your supermarkets carry).
Soak any veggies and fruits that are to be eaten raw in a solution of either bleach or grapefruit seed extract and water for 15 minutes, then rinse. It will kill pathogens.
Be careful where you eat. Avoid street vendors, steam tables and restaurants that don't look like they practice good hygiene.
Have your stomach acid levels checked by way of a Heidelberg Stomach Acid Test. If your stomach acid is low, your body won't be able to kick out these pathogens. If it is found to be low supplement with hcl before you meal and take digestive enzymes mid meal.
Don't eat sushi or raw meats...lots of parascites in them.
Take grapefruit seed extract tincture (I put in in a capsule) when dinning out and olive leaf extract, as well, as a precaution. Poor food handling in restaurants and workers who don't wash their hands after using the restroom is a big problem.
When handing meat at home never cross contaminate..protein and vegetables on the cutting board. If you put any kind of animal protein on a cutting board wash it well with bleach or keep white vinegar in a spray bottle and hydrogen peroxide in another spray bottle and spray each on the cutting board. It will kill salmonella, e coli and other nasties.
Only after disinfecting anything that has touch the animal protein, your hands included, can you then use the cutting board, knives, etc for vegetables.
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That's why I'm trying to buy mostly grass-fed, locally raised beef and lamb. I haven't found any local chicken yet.
I guess there's nobody around here crazy enough to pluck chickens for a small profit. If you've ever plucked a chicken, you'll wonder why chickens don't cost $100 apiece.
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Sure you can protect yourself. Eat organic fruits and vegetables, go to your local farmers market, and only eat free range meats. You can even called up local butchers and ask them to put you in contact with local farmers that have animals coming up to be slaughetered soon. You can get a great deal on good meat that way.
But there's nothing wrong with sushi or raw meat if it's been deep frozen for at least four days (as it all should be at sushi bars, but we know that's not always the case). The deep freeze kills anything that could be living it it.
And there's no need to soak fruit and veggies in bleach or anything else you certainly don't want to be eating as long as you're buying organic. I've made sauerkraut and many other fermented foods for years and you need the good bacteria on the plant in order to make it successfully.
Hey truthfinder depending on where you live you might be able to have a couple chickens in your backyard, my aunt and uncle do that and the chickens keep all the bugs off a lot of plants in the garden (they even eat ticks too). Just a thought. Your neighbors might call you a hillbilly but who cares.
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Organic fruits and veggies will likely have more pathogens on them. If you are eating them raw one should take precautions. Grapefruit seed extract is not at all harmful to your system.
Which ever way you cut it we live in an extremely toxic world.
I'm not sure everything dies in the deep freeze. Some pathogens have amazing abilities to survive the most dire circumstances, Bb included.
truthfinder there are many places where you can get farm raised organic chicken. May be not in your area yet but contacting your local food coop or farmer's market may lead you to a source.
Search the net, you are bound to find a place.
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Abxnomore Why would you say organic fruits and veggies would have more pathogens?
Bad bacteria and parasites can live where the good have been killed. There's a book called Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon that explains some of this. I have a couple of traditional gardening books too that explain these things.
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I am familar with Sally Fallon's work and I agree with it. However we do not live in an ideal world.
I'm not sure what you meant to say by this statement
"Bad bacteria and parasites can live where the good have been killed."
I'm editing this as I figured out what you are trying to say. Of course, that is why we need beneficial flora and need to take probiotics and why so many suffer from leaky gut syndrome and so many GI problems.
I know we need good bacteria and in a balanced GI track ideally one should not be plagued with problems. However, given the world we live in and the way that our food is processed no matter
how hard you try to get the best food possible it's difficult to avoid intestinal dysbiosis. Plus, that is where a good percentage of our immune system is. If you have lyme and are taking ABX you are fighting a losing battle.
I am not saying you can't lessen your exposure by eating organic and grass fed but pathogen and bacteria are on all raw foods. When eating them raw it's best to take precautions.
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I'm sure you guys are right - I really haven't tried that hard to find local chickens yet.
As for chickens in my back yard..... well, for starters, I'd just get attached to them so I'd end up with egg-producers, not meat.
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A big problem with factory farming and antibiotics is that it doesn't end with the animals.
So even if you eat "organic" chicken (or, like me, are vegan), you can still be harmed by the antibiotic-resitant bacteria that develop on factory farms.
Factory farmed animals are given insane doses of abx and kept in disgusting, inhumane conditions--perfect for breeding bacteria that eventually become resistant to abx.
Eating the cooked flesh of these animals probably won't make you sick. *But* workers are exposed to the animals and the bacteria, and the abx-resistant bacteria can spread into the human population.
Kind of like what happened with the "swine" H1V1 flu, except with bacteria instead of a virus.
I've often said that it's unfair that I could get "swine" flu since I'm vegan! But the viruses and bacteria don't discriminate.
The obvious solution is a revamping of the way food is produced...but that would hurt profits. Oh, the Almighty Dollar! SIGH.
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