I have a two person SaunaGen FIR sauna and I absolutely love it. I bought it from Saunas.com. At first I had trouble understanding how the touchpad works that controls it. It looks like a microwave touchpad. the reason I mention this is that the company really backs up their product and when I said I couldn't make it turn on, they sent me a new control panel by Priority Mail and a technician helped me over the phone.
The price was very competitive. I researched a lot of saunas. The wood is non-toxic, smells slightly fragrant but not overwhelming. It has held up well for three years.
The box it came in weighed 300 or 400 pounds but I brought each panel into the house individually. It assembled into a tight fitting room. If you order one, be sure to measure your space carefully at home first. You need clearance over the sauna to install the electrical components on the roof so you need to be able to get your head and shoulders over it to plug in the cables.
It is very attractive looking and could easily be in a family room and look like a nice piece of furniture.
When I started using it, I found I had to work my way up from 5-10 minutes a session perhaps weekly, since I had so much reaction to the movement of toxins, I suppose. Now I can stay in 30-45 minutes and feel fine afterwards. I drink water and take liquid minerals.
The quality of the ceramic heaters and the freq of the infrared emitted is similar to more expensive models, but this is important in how well the sauna benefits you.
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Thank you for all the ideas and suggestions. So much great information.
I have had to budget some things and can not afford to buy new.> So ever week i look in craigs list and have seen some great deals.
So far only one some of the larger ones and the brands I am not looking for. If nothing turns up soon I will consider trying to finance one or something.
This thread has been extremely helpful in figureing out what features and what brands to look for as well as what hazzerds or draw backs to look for.
your all awesome.. Thank you so much..
I wish I had one NOW... but impluse buying is not good.
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Just wanted to clear something up regarding High Tech Health's Thermal Life FIR Sauna. I bought a used one that looked like it *might* have plywood on the outside top of the unit and under the bench. I called them and they guaranteed that they have NEVER used plywood of any kind because of the formaldehyde. Their sauna is non-toxic.
The wood that one might think is plywood is a lower quality poplar or spruce than the rest of the sauna. They only used that in certain areas that would not be seen and would not affect the use of the product in any way. In the past year they have changed that too.
After reading all the claims in the link provided by keebler I'm not sure what to think. Does anyone else have one that looks like it has plywood? Anyone else know anything about this?
Terry
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Dr. K's guidelines for a FIR Sauna:
120 to 140 degrees for lyme.
Pre-load patients with: cocount oil garlic Chlorella hours before the sauna begins. Hydrate.
The idea is to let most of the toxins be removed through the liver...not the skin. although you do want to sweat...Compare the liver to the size of a tennis court vs the skin surface, a ping pong table...use the larger organ to move the majority of the toxic waste.
Best results if you prepare properly. Otherwise there may be issues with the toxins recirculating.
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thanks lightparfait. I also thought that the problem might be related to a reaction in mobilizing toxins or the heat.
One poster claims that the material was tested and found to be full of formaldehyde but anyone can say anything they want on the internet.
High Tech health states that one manufacturer set out to ruin their reputation and it does seem that the one who is making the damaging claims goes on quite a lot about the competitor.
Doesn't make sense that a company would go to all the trouble of making almost the whole unit out of clearly high quality snap together parts only to use very toxic materials in a few relative small areas.
Just wondering, isn't the skin the largest eliminaative organ that we have? I thought the idea was to excrete toxins directly from the fat layer where many toxins are stored rather than through other organs? Less stress on the body supposedly.
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GiGi - have you muscle tested your unit for safety of materials?
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The way I imagined it in my mind, is that the infrared rays penetrate to the fat cells under the skin, and the fat cells release the fat-soluble toxins.
Then the body somehow eliminates those newly released toxins through whatever detox avenue it deems appropriate...my guess is the liver is a big way the toxins are filtered out.
So I think it's more about just the rays reaching those fatty layers of skin, but not necessarily about the toxins coming out through the skin.
I could be totally wrong though.
You have to wonder why fat-soluble toxins would exit the body through sweat, which is water? (fat-soluble basically means NOT water-soluble, right?)
I'm thinking the liver might be better equipped to handle the fat soluble stuff? Unless once it's released from fat, it is easy to get rid of? Water soluble toxins would be easier to get rid of by the body, I would imagine. That is why the fat-soluble ones are such a problem, because they just accumulate (unless you have FIR sauna and decent detox?)
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Hi Hoosiers, Last year I bought the book called Detoxify or Die by Sherry A. Robgers, M.D.. I'm not sure that she is right but she states that FIR sauna mobilizes chemicals directly from fat storage into sweat. She says it avoids pulling the chemicals into the bloodstream where they can cause the orignial symptoms.
According to her, over weeks and months, chemicals that were stored in other organs (fat is considered an organ) safetly and slowly disseminate throughout the body and eventually empty into subcutaneous fat.
It is the chemical load that is stored directly beneath the skin that is activated by the sauna.
Your explanation brings up a good point though. Water soluable vs fat soluable. I know that fat is where many toxins are stored but that's about all I know.
Anyone know more about this?
Terry
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Heat Treatments Get Rid of Toxins By Raymond Francis, M.Sc. Reprinted from "Never Be Sick Again"
Saunas or other treatments help to accomplish detoxification in the following manner:
A layer of fat and oil exists just below the surface of the skin. Heat from the sauna increases skin temperature, causing those fats and oils to "melt" and ooze out of the skin's oil glands.
As sweat and oil are secreted, the toxins dissolved in them are secreted as well. By excreting these toxins and then washing them off your body, your toxic load is lowered and cellular health improves.
Choose a temperature that can be tolerated for an extended period of time-thirty minutes to an hour or more. The point is not to sweat out a lot of water, but to rid your body of oil-soluble toxins. Our skin contains sweat glands and oil glands, both of which help us detoxify.
Sweat gets rid of water-soluble toxins, and even helps to eliminate toxic heavy metals such as mercury and cadmium. Oil glands help remove oil-soluble toxins that the body would otherwise have a difficult time eliminating. We have created a world filled with oil-soluble toxins such as gasoline, solvents, pesticides and ingredients in toothpaste and personal care products, and the body is not able to dispose of them efficiently. The longer the skin is heated, the more oil-soluble toxins are eliminated.
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The idea is to trap the toxins...not move them to new locations. Sweating out ones near the surface is part of it and good to do when toxins are there...but most are not near the surface...the IR sauna goes deeper than the surface. Toxins that are moved will not all come out thru the skin with the sauna...but be moved. Best to also try to trap them or "bind them" when they are released in the body... and move them out encapsulated or traped in feces....rather than to another body part. Just best to do this way.
The skin cannot eliminate it all...the Liver is more efficient for elimination and considered the larger organ, over the skin for elimination.
Also, use of IR for too long or at the wrong temp. per individual...may result in certain organs shutting down....in chroniclly ill people. The body will try to protect itself.
Some get very dehydrated internally and suffer ill effects a day or so after a cleansing sauna if not prepared n advance physically or doing it too long or too hot. Must be wise in using it, and not to over use it. Then best effects will occur....if used wisely.
I have learned by experience. Have had both positive and negetive effects with experimenting...so I now know how to use it effectively. It is fantastic when done correctly.
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Does anyone know how an infrared sauna effects the body as compared to regular sunlight? I know that UVs are supposed to be harmful. Is there any other reason why an infrared sauna is better than just sitting outside in the sun?
There's alot of studies about saunas in general but not alot of info about infrared saunas.
Alot of the info about infrared saunas is provided by manufacturers. I was just wondering if there was some info from a third party about it.
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