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I was a long distance runner/triathlete before I got lyme and contiue to run - when I can.
I do have more post run soreneess and fatigue then I did prior to having lyme.
I think everyone is so very different. If you were not a runner or a lifter or athlete before you got lyme then yeah, that stuff might be out of the question.
It is all relative. I run only about 50% capacity right now - so for me 25 miles a week is very low compared to my pre-lyme days of 50 mile weeks.
On days where I can't run I hike, on days when I can't hike I stretch, and then on days where I can't stretch I just do some deep breathing while laying in bed herxing.
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Thanks coltman, so what do you recommend? It feels like terrible pain in my wrists, throbbing and deep pain in my forearm (sometimes both), terrible shoulder pain. I can barely sleep on that side at night. I can use these joints, but the shoulder especially....I have to be careful as I can get stabbing pain if I do the wrong thing.
trigal, are you worried about what Dr. B says concerning no aerobics?
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quote:Originally posted by richedie: Thanks coltman, so what do you recommend? It feels like terrible pain in my wrists, throbbing and deep pain in my forearm (sometimes both), terrible shoulder pain. I can barely sleep on that side at night. I can use these joints, but the shoulder especially....I have to be careful as I can get stabbing pain if I do the wrong thing.
One of the safest form of exercise is swimming. You can try that. You can essentially make any exercise anaerobic by doing short sprints (like say 50/100 yards sprints with slow ,relaxed swimming in between) - that technique is called HIIT (google it if you dont know ).
But please do consult your doc regarding pain and safety
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I know swimming is good....but there is too much pain in my left arm to swim. I tried.
HIIT you say? That is actually one of the best techniques for weight loss...better than steady state aerobics....burns more calories due to the intensity. I have done the same with running....quick bursts followed by slow walking inbetween.
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Well, now I pretty much need my wife to help me get dressed. My arms are getting worse. Can't reach behind my back, over my head, push anything, barely lift my daughter.
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Do any of you get stabbing joint pain if you try to lift something or move a joint? Mine does not vary...the pain in my shoulder, elbow, and wrist are always ther - always. It never has good days. WHY!?
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Well I had to take a break due to pain and doing more moderate weight but it is killing me psychologically. I like to go full bore and shoot for the stars. My goal was to gain 10 lbs this year and 10 lbs next year adn work toward a Master's class bodybuilding competition. I might have to put that on hold a bit. I hate this disease! If I don't get better, I am going for it anyway!
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I used to work out 4-5 times a week. I gave it up for the last6 months or so because I just didn't have enough energy. Lately, as I am beginning to feel better and can clean the house again, I am wanting to go back to the gym.
I brought this up with my LLMD who is in Dr. S office. She said I could give it a try, but if I "pay" for it for a couple days, back off and go slower.
richedie - I'd be happy to give you my extra 20!!!!
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I'll take yer 20!
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Maybe work on maintenance. Your body can only handle so much at a time. You want it to work on healing, not building. You want to workout to maintain and to kill bugs.
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The pain goes away in the gym! So, I feel invinsible in the gym, I guess it is due to the endorphines or added blood flow....so it is hard to leave the gym when I feel so good in the gym!
Plus, after being into serious bodybulding building my whole life, it is hard, hard to stop for anything. Hard to explain, it is a huge part of who I am.
I will try to do maintenance but it is tough being on the outside looking in at my friends who are lifting hard and making gains.
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Dr. B says light weights and high reps but does not get into specifics. I might take it down to a maintenance phase. So for example the most I would do in the chest prest is 70 lb dumbells for 12reps. Some of the lighter weights I'll go higher to 15 reps. This would be a light to moderate maintenance phase.
However, with any workout, some tissue is being torn down! Keep that in mind.....and will have to be rebuilt or made stronger.
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quote:Originally posted by richedie: However, with any workout, some tissue is being torn down! Keep that in mind.....and will have to be rebuilt or made stronger.
True with weighlifting, which is perhaps why he says not to do it everyday (which weightlifters know already).
I do Pilates. I know it has the reputation of being for women, though it didn't start out that way. Joseph Pilates worked with men until dancers discovered it.
It's different than weighlifting for several reasons .... one is that it doesn't tear down the muscle, the weight is light and you don't work till failure ... another is that it works the deepest muscles rather than focusing on the superficial muscles .... it also increases flexibility.
I'm an instructor and many men are starting to catch on to this workout. It might be something you could add to the mix while you're working on maintenance .... maybe you won't have the left-out feeling if you're doing something fun, new and challenging. My husband owns the videos I posted and uses them when he travels.
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And lifting weights more than two dasys in a row is very hard on the CNS as well. I always have a day rest between workouts anyway. However, the way I lift, it takes a good 7 days to recover. My legs can still be sore3-4 days later after a tough workout. Even after light to moderate lunges, I can have soreness many days later.
Dr. B says to do a full body workout every other day with light weights which I assume he means mearly gonig through the motions(very light). That is not maintenance for me, that is losing muscle for me. That is my quandry. I am going to try to keep my current every other day schedule but I am going to do light to moderate weight in the 12-15 range and will do enoguh exercises to fill out an hour.
The Pilates and deepest muscles argument? Transversus abdominus? Multifidus? I do a lot of core work as well at the end of a workout but I also know that many large body movements recruite large amounts of muscle, including the so called stabilizer muscles of the sline. Squats, deadlifts, etc. I have thought of yoga however......can't afford right now.
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Pilates isn't all core work though all the exercises include the core. It is a full body workout like Dr. B recommends, that's why I brought it up.
I certainly don't miss the 3-4 days soreness you talk about, not at all. And my legs are more muscular than they were with that soreness, too.
Yoga is another full body workout, and if it's more attractive to you (or anyone else) than pilates, you might try tapes.
I was just trying to give you other options, not get into an argument of whose exercise is better. Everyone choses their exercises based on their own personal goals.
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I know what you mean and appresiate the advice, but I enjoy weight lifting so much I'd be lost without it. Hard to explain. It means as much to me as my music and guitar playing, my tennis and my snowboarding.
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I lifted like an animal today.
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