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can anyone on her please give me a good site, or a good link to some real good liver clense products. thanks, enjoy the beginning of the new year
cfs, hhv6, mycobacterium, hsv1, cmv, pirovirus, and Epstein Barr virus.... digestive system
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- You might talk to your new LLMD at your first appointment on Monday.
While everything won't show on a test, it would be best to get a baseline blood test for liver function.
Also, support is a far better idea than an "event" cleanse. It's not like your car's oil in that an "event" will correct everything. You can't filter the liver with a cleanse. But diet, bulk, and support can help the liver to work better.
If you can get bowels moving in top form, that is good. But, IMO, ongoing protection and support is far better for the liver, especially if overwhelmed.
In addition, avoiding things that stress the Cytochrome P-450 liver detox pathway and using support that specifically helps that (beta carotene, milk thistle, smilax/sarsaparilla, etc.) is a good idea.
Some of the links posted earlier for you have suggestions for liver health. See the Singleton book. Great ideas there for liver support during lyme treatment.
First, though, see the link for the Nutritional Supplement section for Burrascano's Guidelines. Suggestions there also excellent and a good place to begin. -
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Not exactly an answer to your question, but just wanted to mention that my sister was diagnosed with "toxic liver" and I found some info about Valerian Root being toxic to the liver. She said she took 3 pills/night and once she was off those, her liver wasn't toxic anymore. So, if you're taking Valerian Root to help you sleep, you may want to quit doing that.
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lemon water
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- "is liver detox and liver cleanse the same thing?" --
Different people use the terms in many different ways.
SUPPORT is the best way to approach liver care.
I know I'm a lone voice with this but - sometimes - the term "detox" is used as an "event" rather than a program set up to help the liver be able to do its best at detoxifying the body.
But, each person's language around that is different and can mean different things. Just as "detox" methods have a wide range of definition.
To me, "detox" and even the term "cleanse" implies pushing some action over a short time span.
"Support" eases the burden and supplies some necessary nutrition so that the LIVER itself can better detoxify and I'm not "detoxing" my body like its a machine. We give the liver what it needs to work best.
Some "detox" protocols are well thought out. Others can be too harsh.
You can't force a liver that is weak and overwhelmed. It can cause more damage as the liver can only work so fast, so hard before spilling over waste it cannot handle or swelling from being beaten like a dead horse.
There also may be scarring to the liver from lyme (or other infection) and, when so, gentle support and the very best self-care is the best way to be a friend to your liver.
As for the detox "events" as in actions rather than the ongoing herbal or nutritional support supplements, still I am a strong voice for gentle approaches such as
non-aerobic exercise, gentle bouncing on a mini-trampoline, walking
lymph massage, warm (not hot) epson salts baths,
Low-heat (never high) saunas, preferably FIR (Far Infrared)
Skin brushing
Eating a high fiber diet for those with "fatty liver" is a good way to go, too.
Certain herbs or supplements as suggested by your LL MD or LL ND (or other professional with education about all this).
Rather than some of the harsher action "events" sort of detox, daily actions in a consistent manner are best appreciated by the liver. Remember it's working for you. No huge shocks. Be nice to it. -
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Keebler,
can you explain lymph massage?
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- You can search at google. Generally done by a LMT (licensed massage therapist) or a PT trained specifically in this sort of technique.
A professional can instruct you in some ways to do it it for yourself. If so, take notes as there is a certain order in which the massage needs to be done regarding the direction of flow to or from the heart.
Otherwise, anything that moves lymph is good - very gentle exercise, warm bath, sweating (but no aerobics are allowed during active stage of infection).
The lymph does not have a circulatory system as our blood. Only through physically moving it, sweating from warmth, will lymph move out toxins collected in the lymph nodes. Then the liver takes it from there.
I came back to say that while most liver support measures I mentioned above are good, only certain herbs or supplements can be protective of the liver regarding some Rx that are hard on the liver.
So, when liver supplements are suggested during lyme treatment, there is distinct reason for that. If neglected, liver damage can be a result.
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