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hostbody
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http://www.molecularalzheimer.org/

Some interesting stained slides on colonies of borrelia in it's many mutated forms. Looks like colonies have biofilms.

Okay, this "bacteria" has extra DNA that allows it to change it's composition to mimic a chemical of the hostbody's chemical makeup. Therefore go undetected by the hosts immune system for quite sometime. Then the spirokete can mutate into many forms, including a dommant form that can live for years without surfacing. (Think of chickenpox as a kid and getting shingles as an adult). Same kind of thing. Borrelia doesn't live in the blood stream where it could be killed easier, but in tissue and organs. And now they are finding that it has a protective layer (biofilm) so it makes it more difficult to kill.

I don't know about you, but i don't think this is a "bacteria". It can change it's chemical make-up, it can change it's shape, it has a protective house that is hard to get through. It can go into a tissue and hibernate undisturbed and come out later when the environment is better.

For survival reasons.....I want to be a borrelia spirokete! Probably will out live a cockroach.

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Apple Cider Vinegar baby!!!!
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So, I'm going to assume that Apple Cider Vinegar breaks down the biofilm? Just how much and how often? Can I mix it with anything?

I've also heard about pulling Sesame or Sunflower oil through your mouth, teeth, etc. Somewhere I read a study that they have found spirokete particles in the oil that was spit out.

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It's a much more complex process than just taking some apple cider vinegar.

http://www.klinghardtneurobiology.com/AmyDerksenART3presentation.pdf

^^^ Start reading on page 60

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hostbody - I have recently learned that other bacteria can produce biofilms.

During an appointment with an orthopedic surgeon for a possible hip replacement (or two) he stated they were not indicated for those with previous joint infections.

The bacteria, in my case staph aureus, can hide well for years then become active again.
On plastic or metal in the body after a hip replacement the bacteria can form a colony on the the plastic and / or metal and protect itself by forming a biofilm.

Not what I wanted or expected to hear.

This doc is from UMass Medical Center, a well known + well respected place.

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