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egtrackk
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Looking for holistic cures/treatment for Lyme

Which are best? How and where do I find the real stuff???

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No one can tell you what the "best" holistic cures/treatment is for Lyme disease because for everyone it's different.

What we can do is tell you what's worked best for ourselves individually.

For me, the best natural treatment was what I had at the Hansa Center this past January.

If you'd like to read about my healing journey go here:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/89968

If you'd like to know more about the Hansa Center treatment protocol for Lyme patients, go here:

http://www.hansacenter.com/

Feel free to ask questions here or send me a pm.

By the way, welcome to Lymenet! Have you been diagnosed as having Lyme disease?

Gary

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Holistic sounds all well and good but the spirochete is a mighty force. Be sure to get a good LLMD. Many also incorporate supportive supplements.

Usually, a combination of pharmaceutical and complementary methods is required.

Whomever you work with, be sure they are ILADS-educated in that they know all the science behind lyme and coinfections. Borrelia is one of the most complex of spirochetal bacteria and one of the most toxic.

I see that you have posted in "seeking doctor" to find someone before a scheduled LLMD appointment that is set for the middle of MAY.

i also see that you had a bulls eye rash early January.

Sorry. So sorry.

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There is no simple approach; no easy answer. While not all LLMDs or LL NDs practice the exact same way and no two patients are alike it is best to first read over this site. More later.

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www.ilads.org

ILADS

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Gary's suggestion is a good one. Hansa has helped many.

You also asked about Colloidal Silver and that has been helpful for some but it should be used under careful guidance. Also, the very best source really matters. Home-made silver solutions can turn skin permanently blue-grey if not done correctly.

Source Naturals Colloidal Silver is a reputable one. NanoSilver may also be considered.

More tomorrow. Good luck for now. This WILL work out. Really.

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for anyone needing more background before replying, here is more info. over at his seeking doctor post:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/2/11521

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http://stores.homestead.com/BiopureHealingProducts/Detail.bok?no=11

BioPure Organic Freeze Dried Garlic

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You should not even consider this without Milk Thistle and other supportive supplements like magnesium. Not at the same time, but it'd be good to be on Milk Thistle BEFORE you start garlic.

Again, this would be just to get you through the interim period and it would still be best to have a LLMD to ask about this FIRST.

For sure, read all you can from the links above and order the Singleton book as that answers so many questions. Your support group may have the book to borrow.

A GLUTEN-FREE DIET is also suggested for lyme patients and that, alone, can help some with symptoms.

AND you need PROBIOTICS - different time from abx or garlic. Singleton's book explains more.
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www.igenex.com

IGENEX - one of the top places to test.

you should also be assessed for other tick-borne infections.

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All this is to compare and contrast - and to be sure all the bases are covered. Rx protocols are included for background but most also incorporate supplements.

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* This explains WHY you need an ILADS LLMD or ILADS LL ND (naturopathic doctor) to guide your treatment protocol.

www.clinicaladvisor.com/Controversy-continues-to-fuel-the-Lyme-War/article/117160/

CONTROVERSY CONTINUES TO FUEL THE "LYME WAR" - 2007

" . . .To treat Lyme disease for a comparable number of life cycles, treatment would need to last 30 weeks. . . ."


"...If all cases were detected and treated in the early stages of Lyme disease, the debate over the diagnosis and treatment of late-stage disease would not be an issue, and devastating rheumatologic, neurologic, and cardiac complications could be avoided..."

. . . .

- Full article at link above.
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Links to treatment:

http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/treatment_guidelines.html

ILADS Treatment Guidelines

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http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease (Diagnostic Hints and Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and Other Tick Borne Illnesses

Dr. Burrascano's Treatment Guidelines (2008) - 37 pages

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As important as any supplements, sections regarding self-care:

Go to page 27 for SUPPORTIVE THERAPY & the CERTAIN ABSOLUTE RULES (self-care)

and also pages 31-32 for advice on a safe, non-aerobic exercise plan and physical rehabilitation.

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MAJOR REFERENCE LIST FOR SUPPLEMENTS:

This is included in Burrascano's Guidelines, but you may want to be able to refer to it separately, too:

http://www.lymepa.org/Nutritional_Supplements.pdf

** Nutritional Supplements in Disseminated Lyme Disease **

J.J. Burrascano, Jr., MD (2008) - Four pages

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http://www.lymeinducedautism.com/images/Lymewhat_is_it_part_3,_LIA.pdf


LYME DISEASE Considerations in Diagnosis and Management

June 26, 2008 Lyme-autism Connection Conference

Steven Harris, MD

125 pages - Powerpoint presentation

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http://www.klinghardtneurobiology.com/LymeProtocolOct09.pdf

A Treatment Guide: Lyme and other Chronic Infections

by Dietrich Klinghardt, MD, PhD

October 2009 - 87 pages

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This book, by an ILADS member LLMD, holds great information about treatments options and support measures:

http://tinyurl.com/6lq3pb (through Amazon)

THE LYME DISEASE SOLUTION (2008)

- by Kenneth B. Singleton , MD; James A. Duke. Ph.D. (Foreword)

You can read more about it here and see customer reviews.

Web site: www.lymedoctor.com


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http://tinyurl.com/5vnsjg

Book: Healing Lyme: Natural Healing And Prevention of Lyme Borreliosis And Its Coinfections - by Stephen Harrod Buhner

website: http://planetthrive.com/2009/08/buhner-healing-lyme-program/

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http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/86857

Topic: Buhner Healing Lyme Q & A links have changed


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http://tinyurl.com/5drx94


Lyme Disease and Modern Chinese Medicine - by Dr. QingCai Zhang, MD & Yale Zhang


web site: try www.sinomedresearch.org and use "clinic" and then "clinic" for the passwords or call Hepapro through www.hepapro.com

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www.lyme-disease-research-database.com/lymenutritionfile1_files/Integrated-Approach-DAN.pdf

HEALING LYME DISEASE: An Integrated Approach to Curing Chronic Infection

Daniel A. Kinderlehrer, M.D. (2004)

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This author is also an ILADS member & a LL ND author:

http://www.dancingviolets.com/media/pdf/LymeDisease.pdf

Chronic Lyme Disease and Co-infections: Clinical Overview (Snow)


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Similar approach, from another ILADS-member/ND author:

http://www.steveclarknd.com/LymeDisease.htm

Your Path to Wellness (Clark)

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RIFE

http://www.lymebook.com/lyme-disease-rife-machines-bryan-rosner


Book: Lyme Disease and Rife Machines by Bryan Rosner

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Not at all about lyme, but a good site for articles about supplements:

www.vrp.com

In their search bar, just pull down from products to articles for access to a fabulous library backed with solid research citations for every article.

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More specific to herbs but, again, not about lyme:

The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook (Tillotson, et.al.)

http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/one-earth-herbal-sourcebook/

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You can also see medical abstracts for many supplements at PubMed:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

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www.itmonline.org

ITM - Chinese Medicine research site

Just search "Safety" if you have questions about herbs or interactions with an Rx. Great details here.


www.townsendletter.com/FebMar2006/lyme0206.htm

February/March 2006

BIOCHEMISTRY OF LYME DISEASE: BORRELIA BURGDORFERI SPIROCHETE / CYST

by Prof. Robert W. Bradford and Henry W. Allen

EXCERPTS:

. . . A discovery of great importance relating to a toxin produced by the causative agent of Lyme disease, Borrelia burgdorferi, has been linked to a similar toxin produced by the organism Clostridium botulinum (botulism) *. . . .

[extensive explanation of:]

* Lyme Disease Toxin . . .

* Action of Toxin . . .

* Dietary SUPPLEMENTS in Lyme Disease . . .

. . . .

- Full article and great photos at link above.

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* as he compares the effect of the borrelia toxin with that of Botulism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botulism

Botulism

Botulism (Latin, botulus, "sausage") also known as "Botulinus Intoxication," is a rare but serious paralytic illness caused by botulin toxin.

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Methods mentioned in the article above:

http://www.beatinglymedisease.blogspot.com

http://www.hansacenter.com

Book & Author's Blog: Beating Lyme Disease by David Jernigan

And, the personal link posted above by Gary:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/89968
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This blog should also to be considered, as you compare and contrast approaches. Supplements are not addressed here but you might read some of the blog entries by a doctor who takes lyme seriously and gets results by doing so. His methods differ from a "complementary" approach nevertheless, it's important to study what he has to say.

Main point: tick-borne infections require serious and complete attention. This is more of a journal of individual accounts rather than a recipe but there are still many solid details here:
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http://lymemd.blogspot.com

Lyme MD
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