Keebler
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- It is good to pay attention to everyone's reactions - we learn from that.
WC has some good points: the main problem was thinking this was a herx and then still proceeding. The blog link below details how bad a move that can be.
And, while we can learn from the mistakes of other, I would also like to thank Gael for being here to help those who find this helps. She has been a voice of reason and safety - all along.
She consistency cautions people to start low and slow and not just take off like a rocket (as so many do - over and over). Some people don't know what caution means and some don't do all their homework first. So, Gael has always been there to answer questions about Salt/C. and help redirect when something has been overlooked or misinterpreted.
Yes, of course there are concerns, considerations and cautions with this. The same can be said of any plan. Get educated. Know the facts. Take it very seriously. Start slowly -proceed wisely. Listen to your body. It's not for everyone but it can be helpful to some.
All this should be common sense but lyme seems to have some of us loose our compass regarding the ability to determine - or decode - just what our body is telling us.
I don't feel drawn to Salt/C but I can't ignore that Gael, an intelligent woman with medical training, has had good success with it herself. Some others have, too.
For anyone thinking about this addition to studying the actual protocol, here's one patients' blog/ checklist with things to consider before and during - this also answers some questions and see where others tripped up - it's good to be aware of the tricky stuff in advance.
Mostly: don't assume any one protocol is the one right one for everyone or will address everything.
Never assume everything is a herx - and never just keep on pushing harder through a herx. That can be a very wrong move.
[ 03-27-2010, 04:53 PM: Message edited by: Keebler ]
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bpeck
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GLM111:
Sorry I wasn't clear - I know you wanted to talk/discuss just about about dehydration ..
But since this involves sodium & chloride, it's difficult to talk about just one element- whether it be deficiency or an excess of one of the major electrolytes.
- So, what I mean is that you can't talk JUST about dehydration/hydration ( i.e. water) when the problem is primarily caused by an electrolyte imbalance.
That's because this particular problem (which is being call dehydration) is actually more than Just Dehydration because to be in balance, the elements ( that comprise the electrolytes) work in concert with each other, substitute for each other in some cases, and for proper balance need to be the the correct ratio to each other.
When Drs. give an IV bag in the hospital for "deydration"- it's *just* not water in that bag.
IMO it's not a case of thinking it dangerous or not dangerous - it's a case where you have to understand the dosages of single elements ( in this case sodium & chloride ) and understand how it's going to effect the whole Electrolyte balance.
Here's a list of the major electrolytes... and the reference site.
* Sodium (Na). A positively charged electrolyte that helps to balance fluid levels in the body and facilitates neuromuscular functioning. * Potassium (K). A main component of cellular fluid, this positive electrolyte helps to regulate neuromuscular function and osmotic pressure. * Calcium (Ca). A cation, or positive electrolyte, that affects neuromuscular performance and contributes to skeletal growth and blood coagulation. * Magnesium (Mg). Influences muscle contractions and intracellular activity. A cation. * Chloride (CI). An anion, or negative electrolyte, that regulates blood pressure. * Phosphate (HPO4). Negative electrolyte that impacts metabolism and regulates acid-base balance and calcium levels. * Bicarbonate (HCO3). A negatively charged electrolyte that assists in the regulation of blood pH levels. Bicarbonate insufficiencies and elevations cause acid-base disorders (i.e., acidosis, alkalosis).
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springshowers
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"I can't ignore that Gael, an intelligent woman with medical training, has had good success with it herself. Some others have, too.'
I so agree with this and all that was said above about Gael. She has been a ROCK around here for support and intelligence and detailed answers about Salt C and how it work and what and how to implement it correctly.
That is what is so important and some people just jump in and do not understand the importance of following protocol. Since most do this without a doctor telling them what to do each step of the way then it is even more important.
So research and learning and following in detail the protocol (which is written to go slow and watch yourself and your reactions every step of the way).
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treepatrol
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I THINK WILD DID A GREAT JOB IN SAYING WHAT SHE HAS POSTED AND i THINK HER TONE IN SAYING IT WAS FINE.sorry about caps There are many salts that can cause this ie potasium salts to little your muscles and heart dont work to much and the same thing. She was just saying be very careful etc.
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then, if further considering this, be sure to get the instructions, follow them - keep in touch with Gael or others who have succeeded with this. I've read of too many taking far too much salt right off the bat and then wonder what went wrong.
Also, if someone had diabetes or certain other conditions, this just might not be the right fit . There are other ways to address parasites so don't give up.
Everything we consider (even foods) requires a lot of homework and much thought.
Most important: first clear it with your doctor and be sure to be monitored. Realize that what one might think is a herx could be a warning sign. Cautions are very helpful so that those same bumps or cliffs can be avoided.
WildCondor said: " . . . Everyone has a different metabolism and tolerance . . . " - that is important to remember for those trying to push through with heroics for some sort of herx ribbon. -
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momlyme
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It is important to start slow and scale up slowly.
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