Topic: Treated parasites and some symptoms are gone
glm1111
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Google Hulda Clark parasite cleanse. Also do a search on here for parasites and Lyme.
Gael
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sparkle7
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Hi Smile...
I use the noni juice. It tastes nasty but I read a study where it is supposed to knock out babesia. There are many strains so I don't know if it will work but it's worth a try. I use a medical dowsing rod & it's usually 1 or 2 Tbs per day. I don't know how the extract works - haven't tried it. I've been using the juice of the fruit.
Lower orifices only (LOL)... I used a green, black walnut hull formuls & I did Humaworm once. I think the Walnut formula was stronger - or maybe my parasites were worse, then...?
I'm not sure with butyrate. I'm taking it with other things so it's hard to tell. I'm using it with artemesinin & some other things. I've been pretty sick & I feel pretty toxic in my intestines lately.
I'm not sure if it's "worse than better" or just "worse & then back to what I was"....
Some people use the butyrate to absorb toxins like chlorestramine. I think the mold doctor recommends it (Dr. S.) but I might be mistaken.
I red a study where it enhances artemesia to help people with breast cancer. I don't know if it will help babesia.
I just read Dr. C (CFS doctor) is recommending artemesia (artensuate - I believe) for XMRV.
Green, black walnut hulls, sweet annie (artemesia), & cloves are the way to go for parasites if you don't want to or don't have access to get into drugs. The herbs may work better but I don't know for sure. Some do well with the drugs. I think the Alania (spelling?) is more for protozoa & the ivermectin is more for worm-types.
You really need to have absorbers on hand. I like Dr. Schulze's intestinal cleanse #2.
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Anyone start off or use Albendazole? what were your experiences?
Thanks
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lightparfait
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Dr. K. recommends ALINA as his drug of choice for parasites.
I think that if your stool test shows parasites...go with the drugs. Parasites in the stool show you are over-run with them.
I also think that if you have symptoms of parasites or are not sure,(negative stool test) go with the Humaworm...it is easy to take and no side effects if taken for only one month. Negative test only means the parasites are not provoked) Humaworm will provoke them and you will see them and feel them come out...if you try the humaworm. Everyone has parasites.
With the drug..Alina or any drug...know that it is very effective at killing, and it also kills more than the bad parasites...and you will need to add back the good bacteria with probiotics after your treatment.(drugs kill the good probiotics). There could also be herx reactions in some people...so be prepared...be ready to have some binders on board.
a good binder would be "apple pectin powder". This grabs and binds the toxins and debirs and encases your stools...
Dr. K is not against antibiotics...just does not believe they are always necessary in the many occasions they are used. Although Major parasite issues when we are over run with them is usually calling for an antibiotic remedy in his opinion.
Dr. K's analogy to hard drug treatments like antibiotics for anything:
If your house is on fire...and at risk of burning down totally...call the fire department...and hose the whole house down so you will not lose the house and all its contents. (meaning save your life and survive)You can always repair it...but you need to save it and as many contents as you can!
If only the pot on the stove is on fire, don't immediately call in the fire department and hose the complete house down and ruin its contents....use common sense and first turn off the fire, and quench the small flame with your fire extinguisher directed at the flame, not the complete contents of your home. This way only one element may need repair...not the whole house. If the quick , directed fire quenching does not do the trick...re-evaluate...then call in the big guys.
He uses this analogy as a basic generality to tell us when it is common sense to first try antibiotics versus more pin pointed less invasive remedies. Americans seem to be trained to first use antibiotics...drugs for everything. We are not taught how to use the minimal, more directed approach.
You want to survive and live...so in life and death or those with major symptom complaints, you need to quench the fire to survive and have your life back. But know there are downsides.
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BoxerMom
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TS - I am on Albenza (albendazole), Flagyl (metronidazole), and Placquenil.
I will let you know how this goes. I've been looking forward to the anti-parasitics.
springshowers
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Do not forget that Rife Treats parasites and many other "infections" and lyme related issues as well as lyme.
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sparkle7
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I looked at the Blessed Herbs website. The prices are a bit high. You can do better with other brands picking & choosing what you need.
They seem like a good product line but pricey. I haven't tried them so I don't know if they are better than other brands.
For example the Toxin Absorber is Psyllium seed husks, Apple pectin, Ginger root OR Peppermint leaf, and Bentonite clay. It's almost $70 for a 30 day supply. These ingredients aren't that expensive. A bit on the pricey side...
Dr. Schulze has a similar product with additional ingredients (which make it better in my mind) for about $25. Big difference.
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just want to chime in here -- my doctor ordered the metametrix microbial ecology profile for me today, which covers pathogenic bacteria and parasites in the gut.
i'm really interested to get my results in a couple weeks. i've had major issues with weight loss/inability to gain weight, and chronic nausea/anorexia alternating with RAVENOUS hunger.
my caloric intake is really high considering i'm 5'2 and weigh 110 lbs. everyone always asks me "where i put it all"... i really suspect i have some unwelcome passengers who are eating my food for me.
anyway LLMD just prescribed alinia for a friend of mine so i'm hoping he'll do the same for me. reeeeallly hoping the test results show something.
i am very interested in the parasite connection.. it seems really relevant to a lot of us here.
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glm1111
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I am having very good results with Hanna Kroeger wormwood combo and it's only $5.98 for 100 caps for a 15 day supply. The combo has wormwood, black walnut hull, cloves, quassia and male fern root.
I am pleasantly surprised. The quassia and male fern root really seem to be making a difference. They are very strong antiparasitics.
I am not seeing anything in the toilet, but that's because I have gotten rid of a ton of parasites in the past including a looong tape worm, and everything pictured on lymephotos.
I am getting rid of smaller parasites not really visible to the naked eye and some small worms now and then.
Gael
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Thanks BoxerMom. Hope everything works out well for you. Let us know how it goes.
lajamur- please share your results when you get them from metametrix. I hear they test for parasite DNA rather than acutal parasites. Which is good!
Gael, Hi. Where did you get your wormwood combo from?
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Just keep in mind that getting rid of parasites is not a one shot deal and requires persistence. A good forum for parasites is curezone. Just google curezone + parasites.
Gael
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