Dr. S has decided limiting access to this new book due to cost, despite the immense cost and years of reading and research to write it, is the wrong approach.
Books on super specific issues do not sell and do not make money to even remotely break even.
The reasonable money being made in good sales is certainly not worth one life. It is not worth one person becoming disabled and non-functional for years or decades.
BASED ON YEARS OF RESEARCH, STUDY OF VIRTUALLY ALL MAJOR PUBLISHED SCIENTIFIC/MEDICAL LITERATURE
TREATMENTS BASED ON INHERITED TREATMENT FAILURES
NEW LAB TESTING OPTIONS WHICH MIGHT CATCH THE CAUSE OF LOST PROGRESS OR RELAPSE
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THE COPYRIGHT STAYS IN PLACE BUT IS NOT VIOLATED IF YOU USE FOR YOUR OWN PERSONAL USE. FEEL FREE TO PRINT THE BOOK.
IF YOU DO NOT SELL IT, YOU CAN GIVE IT TO ANYONE FOR FREE. IF YOU DO NOT SELL THE BOOK, IT CAN BE FORWARDED WITHOUT LIMIT.
YOU Can not alter the text in any manner.
Babesia can caused death, disability, obesity, serious fatigue, migraine torture and a hundred other things it needs to be free to everyone.
We also hope it will help some interested healers catch stealth Babesia more often because we feel it is common, and not an occasional finding in a Lyme positive patient. Many new Babesia species are being found in humans even in the last four years, so the list of human Babesia species and their variants is not finalized
Finally, the cost for top laboratories to keep up and have perfect diagnostic testing is an unrealistic expectation, so other new ideas and included to help show low levels of Babesia that have significant body effects based on solid research articles.
PLEASE DO NOT SELF TREAT BASED ON THIS BOOK.
NO INFORMATION IS MEANT TO BE AUTHORITATIVE AND ALL CARE IS UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF A LICENSED MEDICAL WORKER.
Be Better!! Be Well!
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That's great, I'm glad to see that Dr S decided to take this approach.
It would also be great if he would make his other book: "The Diagnosis and Treatment of Babesia" available too.
There are many people who are suffering from Babeosis who can't get well because of the lack of knowledge about Babesia, even among LLMDs. Our ability to educate ourselves is invaluable.
I thank Dr S for doing this.
James
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Thanks for posting! This is great!
So from what it appears, both links are the same thing? Just making sure.
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Thanks ! I long wanted to get a look at his TBD books, but they are priced prohibitively expensive (well I am just not used to pay for information)
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No problem! I, too, was grateful that Dr. S did this for the Lyme Community.
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Wow, I'm looking forward to reading this. This surely is a rare move from a LLMD or any physician. Posts: 7545 | From The 5th Dimension - The Twilight Zone | Registered: Mar 2008
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This is wonderful! Thank you so much for sharing!
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I'm ****ed. I usually focus on principles not personalities when it comes to very serious matters about our health, but I'm going to vent here.
I paid $70 + dollars for this brief book. He could have summarized the actual "useful" information of his book into 5-10 pages at most. Seriously. Most of the book is spent whining about criticism he's received and talking himself up. It's got a lot of "filler" if you know what I mean.
He speaks about Lymenet in the book, without actually saying the name, and attacks members who responded in a thread I took part in many months ago in which patients were asking for feedback on him. Some of the feedback was negative and some positive here and there etc -- but obviously he read it and got angry over some of the commentary. I did not give an opinion on him as a physician in that thread since I'd never seen him, and I still will not. However I do have some feelings about his attitude.
Bottom line: I don't like his attitude in the book, I don't like being taken advantage of. His pricing was unethical given the market he was catering to. We either had to pay the price or go without the information since no one else had written on the subject. He should have charged a reasonable fee, not 70 - 150 dollars for the last 3 years.
It is now almost a year later since this specific books release, and while yearning for a little attention he decides to turn into a saint "NOW?"
Rip off.
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Metallic Blue and all other Lyme pals,
I want you to know that I do NOT promote Dr. S's actions. As many of you know he was my LLMD and I left him for another one for many of the reasons Metallic Blue has mentioned.
That being said, when I received this information from one of his patients, whose daughter is being treated (and apparently very well), I felt the only fair thing to do would be to post it on Lymenet so those of you could choose what to do with it or not.
Nothing in life is black or white and if it weren't for Dr. S discovering my biotoxin gene and Bartonella, I'd probably still be very sick today. Cholestyramine was my saving grace...I'm convinced.
That being said, do I promote any of his "behind the scenes agendas",absolutely not. However, do not cut off your nose to spite your face. He is an intelligent man and has made some great discoveries for advancement in Lyme care.
Hence, I post, not to promote HIM as a human or even as an LLMD but to give those the option to learn. He does have knowledge but, unfortunately, it is knowledge with an ego.
I am doing well. I am physically 100%, all TBD's in remission, off abx 18 mos now. I am still struggling with depression but my parents' divorce is going to be official in November and my Father has basically disappeared. My LLMD (Dr. R) does not think the depression is TBD related but situational as I was soooooo close to my Dad.
Love and prayers to you all! I, honestly, pray for my Lyme friends (all of you) every night.
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Thanks Clarissa!!
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quote:$70 + dollars for this brief book. He could have summarized the actual "useful" information of his book into 5-10 pages at most.
Did you pay for this one? ( the one published for free) .
I found its pretty good book.I also read a few other freely available publications there .High quality material imho - he went trough a lot of material to summarize lyme persistence and I havent seen so many evidence photos anywhere else
I kinda thinking about buying bartonella book (which I think is my most likely co infection -based on symptoms, but test were negative)
quote: He speaks about Lymenet in the book, without actually saying the name, and attacks members who responded in a thread I took part in many months ago in which patients were asking for feedback on him.
I wouldn't assume so . There are many places besides lymenet on the internet
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Bottom line: I don't like his attitude in the book, I don't like being taken advantage of. His pricing was unethical given the market he was catering to. We either had to pay the price or go without the information since no one else had written on the subject. He should have charged a reasonable fee, not 70 - 150 dollars for the last 3 years.
Well this is tough question. Obviously he tries to recover some money he spent on research and publishing. I mean this is US. Everything is about money here. But there are many safer alternatives to make money than working with fringe diseases not recognized by mainstream
He risks his license and his income by working with lyme patients. No matter how much he charges I can not critique him for that. Be happy that in US at least you have the option to see lyme specialist
quote: It is now almost a year later since this specific books release, and while yearning for a little attention he decides to turn into a saint "NOW?"
You know I find this kind of attitude one of the main reasons llmds are so hard of find. Nobody forces you to buy his books. Nobody owes you treatment or support. Those who do do that at their great personal risk, I don't you think you have a right to criticize them until you too put your livelihood on the line .
Nobody owes us anything -it is collectively OUR OWN fault (as a society -not personally) that we are in situation we are right now - by our inaction and ignorance, by electing people who put corporate interests ahead of interests of the people. By trading freedom for safety we get neither. FDA,CDC, AMA monopoly -all those things are causing the fact that disease like lyme are not recognized in mainstream, that the doctors who treat them are prosecuted. All with silent approval from the public due to ignorance and complacency. We reap what we sow. Nobody fault but our own.
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Coltman,
Maybe there is information that you are not aware of. Suffice it to say that there might be a very good reason that this book is offered for free at the present time.
Someone may be attempting to redeem himself.
All is not black and white.
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He seems like such a Babesia / Bartonella genius compared to other LLMDs. I read his book online and at the end asked myself why anyone would go anywhere else? He seems to have advanced knowledge others don't posess. Getting a sure cure instead of other's doc's temporary remission sure sounds better.
It sounds like they all depend on him for research too.
I assume offering it for free is for the love of all sick, poor TBI patients.
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Is his Bartonella book available as an ebook too?
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Colt, I 100% stand behind what I said. Read the hardcover version and then see if you draw similar conclusions.
The free version may not include the "drama" given a larger population will be reading it and I'm sure that'll have an impact on the content of the E-version.
He did the same thing with the E-book for Bartonella vs. the Book. The book had poor quality black and white pictures and a huge huge huge portion of the book was nothing but pictures. The useful data was at best the first chapter of the book, which consisted of 15 pages.
Either way, I just hope it does help people. Even though I don't like the way he wrote or the prices he charged doesn't mean there wasn't some helpful data.
I'll leave it at that.
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Towards the end of this download (link above), I noticed there was a multi-page Table of Contents, referring to things on page 200-something, etc.
None of those things were in the free version. There were multiple pages advertised in this Table of Contents speaking about Lariam, multiple pages about Quinine therapy, multiple pages about Primaquine, etc.
So I'm assuming that is the table of contents for his first babesia book, not the 2009 book?
Frankly, it made me want to buy the first babesia book, because none of that info was in what I downloaded, and that is the stuff I'm interested in---the stuff that's not Mepron.
So I wouldn't doubt this is also a marketing thing to sell the other book.
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James,
You bought the 2009 book? Or the first one?
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Does the Bartonella ebook have any useful info? Is there still a valid link to get it? Free?
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What I find is that it is dependent on perspective and I even though I agree with MM And JC.. Books can have various roles for various people..
I heard someone say the other day how they love the book by Kevin Trudeau. I was shocked.
But after listening to them.. They had never done anything besides the american diet and seen the conventional doctors only!! They did not have any access to any further or more indepth information about anything alternative or natural or anything whatsoever.
So I thought to myself. .Hmmm I guess THEY got something out of the book. Just the knowledge to dig deeper made that book of value to them.
For me.. what a joke... Ikes.. right??
So maybe.. just maybe.. the book as a place ....
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I bought the 2009 Update book. The same on that is free now.
I wish I could look to Dr S as the authority he wants to be. His repeated disclaimers are laughable though. He says over and over "I am not an expert" and then says:
"I feel absolutely no obligation to convince you or any heath care worker of the merits of what I am sharing. If I died next year, I would exit this life with the knowledge that I published this material to help you"
So, I guess we are to just trust him that he is right without proper proof? Is this scientific?
He's the ONLY person claiming to be a (non)expert on babesia, so maybe he does have valuable knowledge. Maybe he has done extensive research. But these are JUST claims if he can't be bothered to back them up!
He spends many pages attacking the standard dosing of Mepron, but chickens out on suggesting a better dosing. How is this helpful?
His ego has really done a disservice to his own work.
I think that's why I seem angry. His books could have been very important works that could have helped many people. But his poor scholarliness has tainted everything he writes.
I'm disappointed in him.
I would still like to read his other Babesia book.
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Well I'm broke and glad its free. Here are some reviews on Amazon with Connie Strasheim leading the way.
(Connie) As a babesia researcher and sufferer, I have witnessed how standardized treatments for this infection have failed.
Furthermore, I have been frustrated by the failure of some within the medical community to recognize that current treatments for babesia are inadequate for getting rid of this infection in a large number of people.
Because I have tried a number of such recommended treatments myself, and still test positive for babesia, I can attest to the fact of their inadequacy.
I applaud Dr. S for tenaciously researching this infection, and spending what must have been countless hours to obtain the information found within the book.
Without his work, we would have NO up-to-date books on babesia, and what a travesty this would be, as the ignorance surrounding babesia would be greater and more patients would likely remain without proper treatment.
Indeed, the information presented here is cutting-edge and not found elsewhere.
The book is an easy read, written with refreshing candor and intrigue.
It is chock-full of valuable information, and includes great photos, which are characteristic of Dr. S's books.
I highly recommend this book for anyone with babesia, and especially for those for whom standardized treatments have failed.
I would also consider it a vital guide for physicians that treat this important tick-borne infection.
Connie Strasheim Author, "The Lyme Disease Survival Guide: Physical, Lifestyle and Emotional Strategies for Healing"
(T Jack) I have had lyme since 1994 and was diagnosed properly in 2004. After being completely "mindless" of my condition(s),
I went through two divorces, two major job losses as lyme and it's `friends' affected me in the neuropsychiatric area, along with night sweats, tremors and knee failure on the left side.
Through Dr. Ss' written mentoring, I have come to learn about and treat the deadly co-infections of Babesia and Bartonella, along with the lyme.
I have now gotten to the point of being able to operate in a sane manner from day to day. I still suffer from motivational issues and fatigue, but this is nothing compared to where I came from.
Thanks to Dr. J's books and his stunningly complete and informative website, which shows that this doc is the real deal, he's in this to heal.
No one posts so much valuable info and doesn't charge for it!
I am also blessed with a local LLMD (lyme literate MD) willing to listen, read, study and treat properly.
Dr. J's previous works and especially this follow up, offer specific modalities you can read and implement with your LLMD, without needing a PhD.
Not having the "Babesia Trilogy" is like banging around in a locked, pitch dark room with three nasty dogs (named Lyme, Babesia and Bartonella) snarling in the dark, just waiting to lunge and take a huge bite out of your life.
This book is the bright light, the weapon and the ammo to take out the fear and loathing and replace it with REAL HOPE.
May God richly bless Dr. S for his incalculable sacrifices to get this info to those who "have ears to hear." Get the book, get better.
(Better Health Guy) Whom posts here often
The world of Lyme disease is a world where information is often limited. It is a world where patients often feel helpless and alone.
It is a world that very few people understand unless they live it on a daily basis.
I personally thirst for information to help me better understand my illness and how to approach healing.
Dr. S is one of the few tirelessly working to provide information to those of us that really need it; to provide new options to those of us that require them.
Having read the majority of his Lyme-related books, I always look forward to new ones and Babeisa Update 2009 does not disappoint.
(M Knoll)
I have read alot of Dr.S's books and I thought his first Babesia book was very informative but this book is absolutely phenomenal - it is an extraordinary book with an umlimited amount of cutting edge information.
This is so ahead of it's time - I would recommmend it very highly. I didn't completely comprehend the severity of this disease until reading this book.
Since being treated for Babesia my migraines are gone & so is my excess weight.
I never would have thought the Babesia was causing those problems but the doctor said it was & since reading this book it understand more of what happened with this disease.
TOP LYME AND TICK-INFECTION BOOK OF YEAR! HE SAVED MY FAMILY, January 28, 2009
I have known this physician for many years, and he is a stunningly creative problem solver, reads frenetically, creates powerful solutions and new findings that are always ten years ahead of his time.
I have been excited to sell some of his 25 books over the years, and amazed to sample his 27 peer-reviewed publications. One was even a cancer cure!
He loves treating folks with no solutions. I have also known many folks was chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, arthritis and excess weight, who tried every common solution, and only had slight benefits.
There is a reason people come from all over the world to see Dr. S.
I sell some of them his books, and the next thing I know they write me months later and they are already on the path to a new life.
This is a man who knows all life is short, and healing is his deep passion. Medicine is not his job, it is his joy.
He reads research books for fun. And best of all, he figures out medical troubles and can talk clearly and simply to non-science folks like me.
Thanks to "Dr. J," I have children and other relatives and friends who are not 6 feet under.
This material is so advanced I doubt anything can follow it for ten years. In fact, the only real Babesia books in recent years were all done by this physician.
And such narrow and specific books are hardly to make money.
These cost a fortune in time and money to write, and are only for a small group of smart educated readers, looking for new advanced help for fatigue, Lyme treatment failure and peculier weight gain that resists cure with modest diet and exercise.
And it is fascinating to see all the pearls he tosses out on different topics, partly related to this vastly under appreciated malaria-like infection.
Just a few of these pearls were shared with my physicians in the past weeks and some were stunned.
"Where did you read that!? That is quite a big finding." And I just point them to Dr. J's books.
And there are many other reviews on Amazon. This is the only negative one I read.
If you want just one book on Babesia, this isn't the book for you.,
(Michael Ellis)
This is the first book I bought specifically about Babesia. I was left very unsatisfied after reading it. The reader is left to wonder why Dr. S even bothered to make this into a whole new book.
If you are seeking comprehensive knowledge about Babesia, you should definitely buy The Diagnosis and Treatment of Babesia instead.
In it's entirety, this tiny book can be summed up in a single sentence: it is probably safer to treat Babesiosis for 5 months and not 4, because some Babesia may linger.
Dr. S keeps complaining in this book that he wont ever regain the money he put into making this book, and yet at the same time, I wish I could get back the money I put into buying this book.
Don't get me wrong, I think Babesiosis is a very serious illness, and reading a book about it is absolutely necessary to fully understand the illness.
But this book in no way provides a comprehensive understanding of the illness to the reader. I bought this book looking for the most up-to-date guide to treat and understand Babesia.
Instead, the author implies that if this is what you are looking for, then you have to own both books.
Bottom line: Don't buy this unless you already own "The Diagnosis and Treatment of Babesia." If you can only afford to buy one of these books, do not buy this one at all.
Dr. S has probably written some of the most useful books that patients and doctors of tick-borne disease could have on their shelves, but I think he made a fundamental mistake in the way he published this book.
He says that this is the last publication he will write about Babesia.
Instead of writing this book, he should have used this time to make final revisions to his other Babesia books.
Im going to read it and make my own conclusion.
Karl A
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You are right, it's all a moot point.The nice thing is: It's FREE so anyone can read it without RISK and take from it what they wish.
I never got around to writing a review on Amazon. But you may have motivated me to do it.
Now that I think about it, I'm really just frustrated that it wasn't the book, and he isn't the writher I hoped it would be.
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Is this that guy from Florida? Don't get me started on him! Ugh.
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I don't know the book is ok so far. The doc also has a wealth of information on his website for free:http://www.personalconsult.com/.
So you bought the book and don't like it well live and learn folks no one forced you to buy it.
Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da "Life goes On"
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Hey Big Stan,
Half of those reviews were probably written by the good Doctor himself! I do know what I am talking about here.
John, have you seen Facebook and another author that you follow, who has written a well researched, indisputable book? She is having some problems with some very bad reviews, perpetrated by none other than Dr. Troy Marks an alias used by someone out to bring her reviews down.......Dr. Troy Marks states that he co-authored a book on mold remediation......
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I don't doubt what you are saying. Personally I wonder about the people who claim to have had Lyme and write the books; ie Brian Rosner,Connie Strasheim, and others.
But I do like and believe in Pamela Weintraub book, and also Karen Vanderhoof-Forschner detailed book.
I'm about halfway through Dr S Lyme disease solution book and have found a lot of great information in it.
Let's face it people can write or say just about anything claiming this or that...But what is the truth?
Do you think any of these authors have made any profit?
I wonder but don't believe there is a great demand to buy these type of books.
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Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da "Life goes On"
Made me smile... on that one.. : )
Now I am singing the song.. Thanks for the laugh.
Your right.. we buy all things with a risk...never know for sure what your going to get unless you can read it first or borrow it.. Then the only reason to buy it after the fact would be for reference.
I love reference books...
What has the conscenous been on the new Connie book? I did not like any of her prevoius work and found it just regergitating... Sorry cant spell tonight... or ever..
oh bla di oh bla da Life goes on...
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i couldn't copy it. what am i doing wrong? is the bart book available?
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Right on Bigstan. I do know Pam Weintraub gives back to Lyme causes. She has a very heavy appearance schedule, plus has a real job as an editor of a well regarded magazine.
The rest, I am not sure about. I do know that one is a loose cannon.......trying to save face right now.
But as discussed, the book is *free* at present, take what you can from it.
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There is a full moon outside my window. That probably has something to do with it..
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you mean seombody paid 70 bloody bucks for a lyme book????
ouch, that hurts, especially if it's a bad book....
man, what i could do with that money...
anybody got a bridge somewhere...
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Hey BetterHealthGuy wrote a stunning review? Gotta mean something, right?
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Yeah Randi. It was me. I had the first book, and that was expensive too. It wasn't filled with passive aggressive ****ing and moaning though. I found the first book useful.
From Amazon as of today:
The Health Care Professional's Guide to the Treatment and Diagnosis of Human Babesiosis: An Extensive Review of New Human Babesia Species and Advanced Treatments by Dr. S (Paperback - Oct 16, 2006) Buy new: $145.00 reduced to $101.50
Anyone who has read the book, can you honestly tell me you think these prices are justified?
Babesia Update 2009: A Cause of Excess Weight, Migraines and Fatigue? A Common Reason for Failed Lyme Disease Treatment by Dr. S. (Paperback - Jan 26, 2009) Buy new: $94.50 reduced to $73.20
I contacted the girl whose bookstore I bought the book from and here is what I wrote:
From Me:
I have a book I purchased on October 5th on Amazon. I'd like to know what your return policy is.
Book: Babesia Update 2009: A Cause of Excess Weight, Migraines and Fatigue? A Common Reason for Failed Lyme Disease Treatment
Michael ******
Store Owners Response:
Dear Michael, I am VERY good to my customers and usually only have them ship back materials that they really can't use. I KNOW personally waht is useful in this book AND that Dr. S just gave it to the ENTIRE LYME COMMUNITY FOR FREE as an E-book.
I'll be more than happy to credit you back the purchase price - less the shipping and handling - if that is suitable to you. In exchange, if you haven't already, please leave me positive feedback.
Does that work for you? Joy
It is clear this store owner knew about these events. At the least she is being kind.
I did "not" find the book useful and was excessively disappointed and angry, but if someone else does, I'm glad they won't have to pay $73 when they're on SSI, and can barely get by. Now at least they can get it free.
Let me put it to you this way, I'm a pretty easy going guy as most of you know, but after reading portions of the book that I paid all that money for, I felt really angry. I just kept waiting and waiting for him to stop talking about himself, about his other book, about people, places and things that had little if nothing to do with actually "updating" me on Babesia. I just couldn't tolerate the attitude. Then I wake up today and see he's offering it free? If you were in my shoes, you'd be ****ed too I think. I am inclined to say I probably wouldn't even have read it if it were free knowing what I know now.
I'm over it now though since that very kind store clerk is letting me return it. I sincerely hope that some of you find useful information and feel better, because this illness is BS and I'm tired of people taking advantage of us, abandoning us, lying to us, ignoring us, disbelieving us, and on and on.
/Rant
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And Clarissa, I'm sorry I totally derailed the thread with my thoughts about the book itself. I wasn't thoughtful or considerate to you or other posters. I just was so ****ed that I couldn't contain my frustration. My apology to you all.
By the way, I found out that the girl who sold me the book isn't just a regular bookstore owner. She told me a lot of details after I sent her a letter with my unhappiness about the book. She has an awful lot in common with me and all of you, but I won't share more than that.
Turns out I'm going to keep the book and I'm not going to take my money back. I'll just give the book to someone else. Now that I know more about Joy, I'd gladly be happy she made a profit of some sort from the sale.
Anyone in the future who is interested in buying books, Joy is wonderful and her store is joyjjmovies on Amazon.
Edit: Joy told me she has already credited the account and she won't take my money. She said that I should not send the book back, but instead she would like me to give the book away to someone who needs it. I will do that.
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MB - you might want to keep your original book as this update is NOT to replace the book. On page 8 of this update, he stated that he is simply "retracting some lines in my original 375 page Babesia Textbook and revising some very select things." He also went on to say that using this update without reading his orginal book can be dangerous.
But yeah, I agree his disclaimer is a bit iffy.
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In my opinion it is kind of hard to say you are not in it for the money when you publish books such as
"Top Physicians for Celebrities and the Affluent" and "High Quality Health Care for Celebrities and the Affluent".
Looks like a marketing ploy to publish 2 books 1 day apart with the same number of pages and same table of contents.
I bought the first babesia book as an e-book and felt that it was overpriced -- haven't been able to afford any of the other books by this author. Will read the free info, but since hubby seems to have won the babesia battle doubt I will get much out of it.
For whoever asked on this thread -- the table of contents near the end of the free Update e-book is the table of contents to the first babesia book.
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Someone posted this on another board that I check out. About Dr S decision to release the babesia ebook for free. Thought I'd repost it here.
"Dr. S has decided to give access to his latest book, the 2009 Babesia Update free to anyone who needs or wants to read it.
Even given the immense sacrifice of time and cost to him personally, his continued and growing awareness of the many people sick with Babesia has prompted him to give out the information to save as many lives as possible.
For those of you who read the first book, The Diagnosis and Treatment of Babesia - which has much useful information that should not be ignored and is not included in this book - you will understand why he is so passionate.
His son, Jeremy, would not have survived had he not taken up the mallet and strove to find successful ways of treating this illness.
Jeremy is alive, healthy and a wonderful young man thanks to his Father's care and hard work.
For those of you unfamiliar with the publishing world, please know that unless your name is Dr. Phil, Hillary, Suzanne or Oprah, books on super specific issues do not sell and do not make money or even remotely come close to breaking even.
Any money being made from selling this book is certainly not worth one life.
It is not worth one person becoming disabled and non-functional for years or decades.
BASED ON YEARS OF RESEARCH, STUDY OF VIRTUALLY ALL MAJOR PUBLISHED SCIENTIFIC/MEDICAL LITERATURE
TREATMENTS BASED ON INHERITED TREATMENT FAILURES
NEW LAB TESTING OPTIONS WHICH MIGHT CATCH THE CAUSE OF LOST PROGRESS OR RELAPSE
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THE COPYRIGHT STAYS IN PLACE, BUT IS NOT VIOLATED IF YOU ONLY USE THE TEXTBOOK FOR YOUR OWN PERSONAL USE.
FEEL FREE TO PRINT THE BOOK.
WHILE YOU HAVE NO PERMISSION TO SELL THIS BOOK, YOU CAN GIVE IT TO ANYONE FOR FREE. IT CAN BE FORWARDED WITHOUT LIMIT TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU THINK SHOULD READ IT OR WHO HAVE SYMPTOMS THEY ARE IGNORING. (TICK INFECTIONS DECREASE INSIGHT).
PLEASE DO NOT ALTER THE TEXT.
Babesia can cause death, disability, obesity, serious fatigue, migraine torture and a hundred other medical problems. The information needs to be free to everyone.
We also hope it will help some interested healers catch stealth Babesia more often, because we feel it is common, and not an occasional finding in a Lyme positive patient.
Many new Babesia species are being found in humans even in the last four years, so the list of human Babesia species and their variants is not finalized
Finally, the cost for top laboratories to keep up and have perfect diagnostic testing is an unrealistic expectation, so other new ideas are included to help show low levels of Babesia that have significant body effects, based on solid research articles.
PLEASE DO NOT SELF TREAT BASED ON THIS BOOK.
NO INFORMATION IS MEANT TO BE AUTHORITATIVE AND ALL CARE IS UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF A LICENSED MEDICAL WORKER.
Be Better!! Be Well!
Rona. C., MBA
Office Manager (Wharton Alumnae)
Survivor of Lyme, Bartonella, Babesia Microti and Babesia Duncani!
Seems legit but who knows.
KA
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I downloaded the book. I feel more confused and just sat down and cried about all the differing oinions, options, and testing for tick diseases.
What I really got out of it was I need the first published book. Price seems kind of steep.
What is a good antioxidant to take?
Does money grow on trees for any of you? This gets real expensive.
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1. i thought it was written for docs...maybe the price isn't out of line for a text bk
2. i can't read all the stuff above...i understand the neg info about the author-but did anyone get anything good out of the book? it will take a lot of energy - but if it is helpful i will study it.
3. can anyone compare it to buhners book? not the info...the quality of research and writing and organization
4. how about comparing info to shoemakers?
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Hi,
I liked Dr S's book The Diagnosis And Treatment of Babesia. I do understand what all the criticism is coming from about the other options.
I have read Dr. S's (Maryland) book Mold Warriors and found it nearly unreadable- it was also a self-published piece, I thought it needed editing to take out the excessive rambling, and like many self-published book it's full of stories about himself and himself-versus-The Establishment.
I think Sh and Sc share some of the same faults as authors, which are made worse by being self-published and not editing for conciseness (by the way, I'm an author of a self-published book on another topic, and I understand how this comes about, and they should really get a professional editor. Self-publishing actually earns you a high income- you get to keep much, much more of the cover price- compared to authoring a book and having a publishing house print it, so there's no excuse for not doing a professional job at the prices that he's charged for his self-published books).
Anyway, in contrast, Bu's book about Lyme and herbal treatment is extremely concise and to the point, but it won't tell you much about how to treat babesia with pharmaceuticals.
I would suggest that if you have babesia, S's book The Diagnosis And Treatment of Babesia is pretty good, but I feel no desire to buy any of the 'other' versions such as the "professional" one.
The Diagnosis And Treatment Of Babesia is actually quite rant-free, and compares treatments described by different LLMD's whom he's interviewed. He gives credit where credit is due there. I think it's horribly overpriced, but a great contribution to patient resources.
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This post is probably the reason why the book is free. It is generating publicity for the other books. Be very wary people. $$$$$ is behind everything.
While we are on this topic, I feel that it is important that anyone who wants to know how this Dr. S treats should have access to the opinions expressed by patients who have seen him. I have never heard a single positive response from a patient of his. On the contrary, it has been nothing but patients complaining about how much $ he wanted them to spend on testing and other stuff. Be very careful.
I have asked highly respected LLMD's about Dr. S, and their response was that he seems to write alot of books, but treatment wise and peer wise, they see nothing, and to be careful. It is very strange. Not sure of the motive here with the book but caution is advised.
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This is a known marketing method to offer sample content for free. If you aren't getting the $70 biters any more, offer this book free and get a few phone consultations. You can't hold it against the guy, but I am sure marketing is the reason, otherwise why give up potential revenue from the book ? If it was to help others could have been given for free from the beginning. No one can question his motives though, he has been the one who sacrificed his time to "research."
Anyone suffering from KPU or related cannot take arteminisin, it will make you sick as hell. Neither can you handle large die off.
Don't take the book as the end all be all and keep yourself sick for months try to treat with supplements that are making you sick.
That's my 2 cents.
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i read enough to know:
HE has lyme brain...he is all over the place with his writing(i've had two good docs tell me i was "all over the place" when i was very cognitively impaired-one was a neuro, one an llmd)
he needs an editor
there are at least two books here: one is medical, one is opinion(both have an audience-but it they are different groups)
hes got his own issues and is bitter about not being successful and respected
he needs a public relations person to get a new pic of him and get rid of the many inflammatory remarks he makes that turn off large groups of ppl
he was probably hurt very badly by a loved one getting sick and not getting good care...who is david, his son?
i wish i didn't waste ink printing this out. you can get the good info other places without haveing to weed thru all the other c--p.
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quote: The Diagnosis And Treatment Of Babesia is actually quite rant-free, and compares treatments described by different LLMD's whom he's interviewed. He gives credit where credit is due there. I think it's horribly overpriced, but a great contribution to patient resources.
This is also how I feel about the first book. However, the advice of the first book is given abundantly for free here at Lymenet. Just ask "How do I treat Babesia" You'll get "all" the same answers without spending 100 + dollars.
Some people like to have an actual book in hand to read in bed or what have you -- if it's worth it to you, then by all means, purchase it.
I also want to make it clear that my posts in now way reflect my feelings about this doctors professional work with patients medically. I am "only" unsatisfied with his book as an author. It is not my place as a list holder to give personal opinion unless I have personally seen and worked with the physician medically.
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I agree with the criticisms of this author and his writing style. I payed money for this book and should not have had to read all the bitterness and complaining he put into it.
That being said, our community also cannot live without him and his publications. He is far to knowledgeable to disregard simply because of his negative attitude.
I gave the book 2 stars on amazon, I really don't understand all the 5 star reviews. For a $70 book it really did not provide very much information at all, I understand it was a very specialized book, but it didn't even bother to provide any background knowledge. The book is not at all comprehensive about Babesia. It is however full of his bitterness and complaining. The Diagnosis and Treatment of Babesia book is a much better investment.
He does need someone to help him edit the book and avoid being negative and condescending towards the readers who paid money for his book. The contents of this books should have been published as a revision and newer edition of his diagnostics and treatment book.
I don't mean to criticize Dr. S' very hard work, or his amazingly helpful knowledge, but he does need some work on his attitude. This book is just published with such a negative attitude that the reader is lead to feel the book is an opinion piece full of complaints and bitterness against the Lyme community.
Since I only wanted to buy one of his books, I should have bought the diagnostic and treatment book instead, it is a much better value and much more comprehensive, probably focuses more on the actual medical problem of Babesia than on his own opinions and attitudes.
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