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I read in "Cure Unknown" there was a vaccine.
I don't hear anything about it on the forum.
HH
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Search for "lymerix", which should have never been on the market (take it from one who received it)
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Very bad idea .. at least a thousand people sued the company, saying it GAVE THEM Lyme disease. I never trust any vaccines anymore.
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Know someone personally who got the vaccine and has been fighting Lyme ever since...and that's the truth.
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There was a vaccine that made people sick.
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I received the first two doses (of a three dose series)of lymerix. That was 11.5yrs ago and I have been sick for 10.5 yrs. I have tested positive by Igenex numerous times (before and after antibiotics), and tested positive by Central Florida Res. Lab.'s Flow Cytometry test (after many yrs of oral abx, months of IV's, and bicillin injections).
I tested positive for the HLA-DR4 gene, which is the genotype of the patients that got sick from the vaccine. However, my LLMD didn't believe that the vaccine caused my illness because I have never had swelling with my arthritis. (I think that was a narrow-minded opinion). I think that the vaccine definitely played a role in my illness, and my inability to get well.
I absolutely am against any future vaccine, because of the way the pharmaceutical company pushed Lymerix through the approval process, regardless of adverse reactions during the trial. It always comes down to money with these companies, not the safety of what the are putting out there, and who's lives they are ruining!
I have been suffering for so long, with no end in sight, and the pharm. co. didn't have to pay any damages for their neglegence. The patients lost the trial, and the vaccine was taken off the market citing poor sales (BS! They knew that it was making people sick, and were afraid of anymore lawsuits!)
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Trial? WTF? I don't know this story. I knew it waws pulled citing low sales and had heard that some got sick from it but didn't know the extent.
Were people who got sick, already Lyme patients?
Did people go from healthy to full Lyme Disease? Was the vaccine a live bacteria? I'm very curious about this.
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The vaccine was tested on volunteers before it was released to the public. Some of these volunteers (all who were healthy before), became sick with lyme-like symtpoms. Most of them had severe arthritis with swelling. The vaccine was pushed through the approval process, and the adverse events were swept under the rug.
The people who got sick from it tested positive for a specific genotype (HLA-DR4 or HLA-DR2). I think that these are common genotypes. However, the pharmaceutical company never let the public know that they should be tested for these genotypes before receiving the vaccine. (That would hurt their sales).
There were also suspicions that people who had the lyme bacteria already in their system, but who's immune system was actively suppressing it, were now unable to keep it at bay, due to the vaccine. (I think that is what happened to me).
The vaccine was made with an outer surface protein of borrelia, OspA. I honestly forget now how it all was supposed to work, but this protein from the vaccine was supposed to be ingested by the tick during a blood meal, and somehow prevent the dissemination of the disease into the human body.
Anyway, this protein is one of the bands in the Western Blot test, so anyone who has a positive 31kD band and has been vaccinated does not know if the positivity is from the vaccine or from the disease itself. This is an important band in determining lyme disease infection, so this makes it very difficult to differentiate between true lyme disease or vaccine reaction on the Western Blot.
Interestingly, none of the conventional labs like Quest, LabCorp, MDL, have ever shown me to have a positive 31kD band. How can that be? Of course, Igenex shows it every time. That to me, proves that those labs are worthless in the diagnosis of lyme disease.
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Suffer on as we do, what do we do? How long can this crap go on?
I've read so many stories in a book about all the fighting with Drs. believing in Lyme and others that do not.
It's sad that we've got a such a controversial illness.
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Wow amk33, that's pretty crazy stuff. I would like to read good investigative journalism about vaccine development.
I have read that since 1992 a good portion of the FDAs budget has come directly from "user fees". Simply, the pharmaceutical industry is paying their regulatory body. Congress renewed the legislation in 1997, as they didn't want to pay all the FDA themselves, and even added fast-track approval for new products that used to be greatly scrutinized. Now American companies are getting new and patented products to market quicker than any European or Canadian counterparts and making insane profits and generating more and more money for the FDA.
Imagine if the National Transportation and Safety Board (NTSB) was funded by Boeing!! Almost EVERY SINGLE time there has been a plane crash involving American planes/companies/deaths the NTSB has left no stone unturned to find out what happened and ordered changes to the aircraft, maintenance, regulations, etc...Airlines and manufacturers are called to full account and do as they are told or they fold the business.
Drugs and vaccines should be getting safer with advances in tracking and technology but they are getting more dangerous because there is no accountability. If Warren Buffett or Bill Gates got sick from that vaccine, their lawyers would have insured there was hell to pay and the laws would have been changed FOREVER.
Posts: 410 | From Victoria BC, Canada | Registered: Jul 2008
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The little guys, us, just struggle each day! Let some big government official get it, then let's see, right?
HH
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I got the vaccine, 12-13 years ago My memory is fuzzy. (thanks lyme)
I have had two positive western blots since then, some remission time, and active infection with symptoms since February 2009.
Spent most of last year out of work sick. Antibiox allowed me to go back to work in November, but symptoms came back w/in 2 months of ceasing treatment. stabilized with naturopathic remedies, but not getting better.
I don't think there's a linear timeline with enough conclusive evidence to sue, but I believe in my heart that the vaccine worsened my condition. I did have a positive western blot prior to the vaccine (only time I had the bullseye rash), so it's anyone's best guess.
I have been leery of vaccines ever since. Hearing they pulled the vaccine only reinforced my beliefs.
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