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Can people here recommend the best sources for purchasing supplements? There is such a wide variety in prices on many of the recommended products, referenced in Dr. Burrascano's materials.
Also, what are suggestions regarding best success with supplements, etc., per Dr. B's protocols?
THANK YOU!
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I use Swanson's Vitamins. They carry the NOW brand and I like it because it's gluten, dairy and soy free. Usually corn free also.
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- When considering herbal / nutritional / adjunct methods, because lyme is so very complex & unique, as are possible coinfections:
if at all possible - because each person & each case is different - it's best to consult with an ILADS-educated LL ND (lyme literate naturopathic doctor) (or similar) who has completed four years of post-graduate medical education in the field of herbal and nutritional medicine -
- and someone who is current with ILADS' research & presentations, past and present, and has completed the ILADS Physician Training Program (see: www.ilads.org )
so they really know all they can about the science of lyme . . . how lyme (& other TBD) act and what we can do about that in various ways.
Many LL NDs incorporate antibiotics (depending upon the licensing laws in their state). Some LLMDs and LL NDs have good working relationships.
When possible, it's great to have both a LLMD and LL ND and even better when they have a long-standing professional relationship.
If you can't, at least be sure to read their articles / books and you'll also find some specific suggestions not just for supplements but the best brands, too.
Herbal Safety considerations & reference books; etc.
Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:
Understanding of the importance of addressing the infection(s) fully head-on with specific measures from all corners of medicine;
knowing which supplements have direct impact, which are only support and which are both.
You can compare and contrast many approaches with links to articles, books, methods . . .
BODY WORK methods / links (and why anyone who works on your spine MUST be LL to the degree they at least know to never suddenly twist neck or spine. Never. Ever. And that we should never be advised to do neck / head / shoulder stands.) -
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See Buhner's & also Zhang's books / sites for suggestions such as Woodland Essence, Hepapro etc. -- detail in the LL ND set above along with various protocols that involve specific formulations.
BEST PRICES for "regular" supplements. Once you figure out certain items & brands, or to study & compare ingredient & additive lists, some options for basics via the web:
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You want whole foods based vitamins, not synthetic ones. With vitamins, you get what you pay for. I always buy supplements in their most bio active forms.
Synthetic vitamins are often isolates in high dose. Perhaps they work the same, but I prefer to take whole food supplements because nature does not produce any nutrient in an isolated form.
The natural vitamin complexes work together in a synergistic manner. You also want to buy the most bioactive form of the vitamin. Cheap vitamins often utilize zinc sulfate, but I buy zinc citrate or piccolinate.
The problem is potency, larger therapeutic doses require the use of synthetic vitamins. I believe vitamin c is almost always of synthetic origin.
I often buy new chapter, they use yeast to grow the vitamins,. thus absorption is high but potency is low, which is why they are more expensive. If you are prone to yeast sensitivities then you might look into dried food vitamins.
Vitamins E , A and D are derived from food. Others are labeled "natural" because they are made from "natural" precursors. Some are combined with dried foods and herbs and called "food vitamins." A lot of vitamins or minerals are best absorbed in the presence of others ( like calcium with magnesium).
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Thanks everyone. I appreciate the mini lectures about whole foods and nutrition, etc., but I've been battling this disease for a long time. I'm on a very strict and well constructed program using nutrition, Rxs, and other integrative approaches. I'm going broke trying to stay on top of taking the supplements that are specifically recommended by some of the most prominent LLMDs and am looking for sources that offer more competitive pricing. This is the kind of help I'm looking for. Thanks!
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- If not sensitive.
Some food yeast is very good for us, though, such as that flakey yellow stuff called Brewer's Yeast (but more correctly "nutritional yeast")
It's just excellent in so many ways, rich in B-vitamins and even things that can help avoid c. diff.
Mushrooms are also fungi yet so very fabulously delicious & nutritious.
Brewers Yeast - what you need to know first -
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- Some Vitamin E contains gluten. It often comes form wheat germ. That's a hard one to dance around but important to do so.
If there is added glutamine / glutamic acid, avoid it. That can be overly stimulating.
Also be sure to avoid as many additives as possible. Avoid any that sit in hot warehouses, etc. Try to order during cooler temps for anything shipped to you - from as close to you as possible, too.
I've not used them but HSN has what appears to be a good line of basic supplement. Lessman, I think? Their warehouse and practices seem good.
Still, when possible, try to get most of your nutrients from organic foods, straight from the earth. -
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See post: Caution: Aspartate; Glutamine; and Phenylalanine (3 excitatory amino acids that can be wrong for us when added as supplements, beyond a normal dietary level)
Seaweed has its own natural MSG and can be very excitatory
To be considered in supplements, tea, foods. And why that matters in neurological lyme. -
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Supplements aren't the end all, be all, for getting better for everyone. Don't feel bad if you can't afford to take them right now.
I was taking tons of supplement for awhile.
A few months ago, my doc and I cut way back on the supplements. I actually started doing better with less. The stomach can only process so much in a day.
I would just pick some essentials if you're in a financial crunch. Stuff like probiotics is absolutely necessary. Spend your money on a good-quality probiotic.
A lot of the stuff on Dr. B's list I stopped because for me, it really wasn't helping my progress. Everyone is different though.
I do things like nettles tea infusion to get magnesium. I drink it away from meds.
Multi-vitamins, coQ10 and magnesium supplements clash with meds that I'm on, so I stick with a good diet for those.
Not everyone has the genes to process B vitamins correctly. If you have this defect, you need to take particular types. I did this for a year. Even then, this is something that I did better with when I stopped.
ATP Fuel (NT factor) did nothing for me.
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- Judie makes a very good point. I've stopped most supplements for various reasons. Cost, mostly but also I want to get nutrients from concentrated foods. It's a wider range of nutrients that work together, not an isolated few.
I do rely on STINGING NETTLE (as Judie mentions) but I just mix the green powder with GOTU KOLA powder and chug it down. I've decided that I want any supplement I take to be from food. Actual food. So the greens powders work for me.
CHLORELLA or SPIRULINA also good if from a clean source (though spirulina tastes like pond but I just deal with it).
I do not suggest any protein powders that are a mix of things from who knows where that sits for who knows how long and are run through all types of machines.
Hemp Protein powder is as pure of a food, without anything else if you want a powder. But it is a bit grainy. Still, it the nutrition that's there. -
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- An excellent source: Mountain Rose Herbs in Oregon. They are often out of the NETTLE powder but the leaf, (you want LEAF, not root) can be ground to powder in any blender.
Nettle is the top recommendation as it helps calm the cytokine storm, "herx" stuff. It's excellent liver support. And it is excellent nutrition. It's reversed anemia for me many times (and then I realized I should just keep it in my diet and not go off of it).
Gotu Kola helps with microcirculation and tissue integrity support. Both have other properties outlined in the articles to come. ------------------------------------
I tend to do my own wild crafting when I can. I can make about 18 ounces of stinging nettle, poke root in a single 32 ounce mason jar. costs about 20 dollars to make a 5 year supply.
If you can't get to the fields just by the herbs in the bulk you need.
A good way to make a kidney supporting teas is to buy quarter pound of gravel root, marshmallow root, golden rod (solidago liver support), hydrangea root, get some uva ursi just use half. Mix it altogether and you can make your own herbal tea which will last a looooooonnnnnnnggggg time.
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Thanks everyone! I hadn't heard about nettle and will definitely get that on board. I appreciate the recommendations, and the time you've spent to help. Hug!
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Good old fashioned cod liver oil is always a good source of high levels of the omega-3s, EPA, and DHA. Cod liver oil also contains vitamin A and vitamin D
I buy flax seeds and grind them myself before using for omega 3s. You can put this in smoothies or bake in recipes. You can also soak flax seeds overnight and use the gel to make smoothies.
For actual supplements, my other go-to ones are vitamin D and zinc. I usually buy the brand solaray. I used to get them at the whole foods market near me, but since I have amazon prime I buy them in bulk there to save money.
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Hi, Maia_Azure... Thanks for the tips. I use Solaray products and buy them from Vitamin Shoppe, but will take a look at Amazon and price compare. I appreciate your time in sending me this information!
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