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Thread title, in regards to threads about drinking and coffee.
With regards to coffee, the general message was "hey, maybe its not great [for various reasons], but I need it to function, and like it too much to give it up."
It seems the same is not said for alcohol (at least not by most people on these and other boards).
This is not meant to be a pro-drinking thread (I've actually stopped myself indefinitely).
Rather, I'm just wondering where some of you draw the line (again, in reference to pretty much the universal sentiment in the coffee thread that coffee was so deeply ingrained in life, habit, functioning, and enjoyment that it was not going to be eliminated).
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Keebler
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- When I catch myself thinking, "oh, that's just not gonna happen" I have to be careful and, often in retrospect, I can see that this can be dangerous thinking that anything is ". . . so deeply ingrained in life, habit, functioning, and enjoyment that it was not going to be eliminated."
When one understands the reasons why it is (and if I fit those reasons, which usually I do) suggested by experts to be avoided it makes sense.
There are usually good options that can give both enjoyment and results for whatever it is that one thinks is "not going to be eliminated". -
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If something makes me feel worse, it's on the chopping block. I keep it simple.
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Dr. J in MD thinks coffee is ok. It really has a lot of health benefits including the fact that it is the main source of magnesium for Americans. It's also good for your liver, either way it goes in you. It's our main adaptogen.
If it makes you *feel bad*, though, then quit. I've done both. When my stomach was immensely wrecked and my adrenergic bp were both pretty misery making, I quit all caffeine.
Now it's back. Helps with headaches -- no dairy in the coffee anymore though; I add a dab of coconut oil and stevia. Not every day, but when I'm up to it I'll have a cup or two.
You'll know either way if your body likes it or not.
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I think it depends on how much you need something. I need coffee to get me through my day if I'm tired. I do not usually have the time to be home sleeping! It's my one Lyme vice, and it works for me.
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Keebler
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- It also depends on symptoms that can be aggravated by something. Those with heart rhythm issues, anxiety or stressed adrenals usually do better to avoid caffeine and lean into something good to take its place.
Point in treatment likely also enters into the equation.
Yet, when we look at these "directives" as a plan rather than a punishment or discipline, they become easier to follow. Focus on the "plan" in disciPLAN. It becomes more of a friend to us.
These reasons for such advice from LLMDs who have seen what happens with thousands of patients over time, well, that advice is valuable as a plan to how we can get better and feel as well as possible along that road.
They know what happens in the body when caffeine / alcohol are involved -- and how the bodies of those with lyme are more likely to incur damage or impairment of planned success.
Part of the "plan" is to also find good ways for assists and enjoyments along the way. We can certainly nourish and nurture ourselves in many ways. -
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I will not lie.....when I'm feeling ok and think "I CAN", I actually eat a doughnut, even though I know it's bad for me! Not "gaining weight" bad, but IBS/h-pylori suffering kind of bad. And know, I'll suffer tomorrow but most of my tomorrow's are bad anyway......
There have to be times you decide to live a little, if you can.....plenty of time for "I should not have done that" and plenty of people who will tell you how wrong you were to even contemplate it. Especially on this site.....oops. Shouldn't have said that as I've had an issue with "finger wags" or "pray to God" moments that turn me off.
Sometimes, I wish we could come on and just say, yeah, I feel like crap w/o somebody coming on to say "It's your fault" or "You shouldn't have" or "Try this regimen" or "Pray harder" response.
Sorry...yes, I do get that way some days because I'm imperfect and human and don't hide my true feelings...except on here on some days.
I get it.......
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