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when obama and his family get a shot, then i'll consider it serious....
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If they have the vaccine on camera: what makes you think that the contents of the syringe will contain the H1N1 vaccine?
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You know, I can't believe we have come to this kind of thinking among citizens of the United States.
There was a time I rolled my eyes and moved on from conspiracy thinkers. I have personally known a couple in my lifetime and they were actually highly intelligent people who I thought were just a little "out there" on their views about government.
Today, just like the rest of you, I am no longer rolling my eyes and walking on by. How on earth can I wake up from nightmare and exit the twilight zone????
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First of all, it's not, "conspiracy". It's about individuals with personal conflicts of interest.
Gary Wormser, for example. Mr. "Disease du jour".
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No, no. This is the thread about eugenics, isn't it? That could definitely fall into the category of "conspiracy theories".
I'm onboard with you, in case I did not make that clear.
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Yes after what we have gone through to get help for
our so called Disease du jour I agree. Tracy your
are right they will be heroes. History repeat.
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I agree friends!
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There is something strange about this national emergency thing. That designation was not necessary in order to create off-site ERs to handle flu patients, etc. There are other ways to accomplish that end without declaring a national emergency. I won't speculate at this point but something is not right here.
Exactly. What was the PURPOSE of declaring a national emergency? What does it gain us?
They just want to force the vaccinations on us.
Very scary, if you ask me.
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Tutu said... "I have already decided that I am very allergic to eggs!!"
Me too, TuTu!
Marnie... prayers for your little one and your family.
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Much happiness today...as Abby is better, but tired as all the serotonin (anti-inflammatory) coming from the cells in her appendix going into her bloodstream -> serotonin -> melatonin -> sleepy.
Excess blood serotonin = vomiting.
That virus...one of the proteins (NA) cleaves (breaks apart)
sialic acid*** and adjacent sugar residues of cellular glycoconjugates.
Sialic acid (SA) located on human cells.
If the virus lands on our mast cells they may release histamine = allergic reaction.
Asthmatics and those with COPD are hit harder if they get H1N1.
A 9 year old girl who had H1N1 (and a 104 degree fever) was cured with:
Augmentin (beta lactam abx. + beta lactamase inhibitor = prevents the breakdown of beta lactam)
PLUS
An anti-histamine.
I linked that in another post. (It was from a gov. website.)
Believe it or not...H1N1 is a LOT like Bb!!!
C3mom...your post about your nephew's need for an appendectomy post H1M1 was indeed amazing.
Does H1N1 have an affinity (likes) for cells that *lack* serotonin?
The appendix gets inflammed when it is depleted of serotonin (which goes into the bloodstream to act as a "mediator of inflammation".
Once again...stop the inflammation AND hit the pathogen!
Other good news....finally...the RIGHT diagnosis for my daughter who has multiple symptoms...
TESTS showed:
EBV has re-emerged!!!! Dry eyes, fatigue, etc.
FINALLY an answer!
She has MONO...and it isn't going away.
(She had it 2x as a teen.)
P.S. People who are allergic to eggs can NOT get the H1N1 vaccination (my sister's grandaughter).
Did her pediatrician's office make a mistake giving Abby the H1N1 vaccine AND a nasal "flu" vaccine at the same time?
I have forwarded the info. to my daugther to forward it to her ped. office 'cause they MUST be forewarned!!!
And yes...we don't have NEAR enough of the vaccine to give to every American!
It is growing too slowly in the eggs...according to our today's paper. (Sarasota Herald Tribune...front page 10/26/2009...titled: H1N1 vaccine supplies fall short.
Quote from the above:
"The reasons for the receding estimates start with the fact that the H1N1 virus, known as swine flu, is
not growing as fast as expected in the eggs as expected in the eggs used to produce vaccine."
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My son has been sharing concerns with me about conspiracies for years and I would also poo-poo them. Not anymore!!! We are living it. Americans need to wake up. We are slowly loosing ours rights under these so-called crisis.Get in trouble create a crisis. easy fix...it is called diversion.
Praying for this great country!!!!
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And yes to what someone else said... This H1N1 crisis came immediately after the White House began getting lots of heat about the bailouts.
So predictable.
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Still trying to figure out what Fox News has to do with the price of jelly donuts...
quote:Originally posted by Pinelady: Fox news is in quite a quandary right now.
Supposedly someone tried to keep Fox News out of
the presidential news. Being reported on now. They
explained it all. Very interesting. Sounds like
powers that be are doing to them the same thing
Lyme patients have had done to them for years.
Ouch. Now they know how we feel.
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They were trying to have them ousted from being
included in Presidential and Congressional news.
By saying they were not a real news agency but a
sensationalist reporting group and as such should
have no rights to news agency reporting. In fact
it even worked for a day.
Kind of like saying Lyme is not chronic because there is no proof.
Just the powers that be.
Oh Marnie I am so sorry your daughter has mono. I do hope you find something to get the system to fight it down and hopefully for good.
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wasn't it one of them that said to take advantage of a bad situation, er, something like that.
rham maybe???
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I wonder if Obama would declair Lyme an emergency. We might be able to get some changes in the cdc.
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Chronic Lyme does not exist, and Lyme is an easily treatable infection easily limited with a few weeks' of oral antibiotics.
I doubt whether he would declare, "The aches and pains of daily living" a national emergency.
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It will be a very sad day in America when we are not allowed to speak our mind and loose our freedom of using our minds and common sense!
Whoever controls the media controls our minds!
Whoever controls healthcare controls life and death.
Whoever controls business and commerce, controls our ability to provide for our families and our own independence to be governors , protectors and providers of our own.
The next thing to look out for is when they try to control our "spirit". "Brainwashing or blindly following spin.
Many of my close friends and family seem to follow only what the MD, Pres.,teachers, or news media tell them as the only truth. The only way. I believe they are the typical AMerican citizen. They think I am very different in my thoughts of researching the facts and using my own common sense. They say "how would you know...you are not a MD!"
Body, Mind and Spirit...Things are getting out of "control". Now the Gov. is experimenting with playing "God" with the abuse of power. So glad we have some noisy people in America keeping them in check! I guess they thought no one would notice! I have never been so outraged!
History will always repeat itself with the demise of a nation, when leadership goes astray.
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Guys...how medically savy do you think the Pres. is?
Most people don't have a clue and they have to rely on what the "experts" tell him/her to do - or what THEY think needs to be done.
He may have gotten some bad advice.
Suggested reading: Hippocrates' Shadow (paperback).
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Oops. Looks like we got thrown into the ghetto - Off Topic. I guess we waxed a bit too political or philosophic to suit the requirements for the Medical Questions forum.
That's great news about Abby, Marnie. I sure hope she can avoid an appendix issue. Also, glad to hear that your daughter may have a real answer..... I know you have been worried about her for awhile now.
Hey, I love the `I'm allergic to eggs' idea. Now, will that work for seasonal flu shots, as well? What about the `live' nasal H1N1 stuff, or other vaccinations?
It's true what you say, LP. Most people do not know anything beyond what their doctor tells them, and they seem a bit bewildered at the suggestion that there might be more to know or learn about their own condition.
I'm outraged at the behavior of our elected `leaders'. I guess one good thing about it is that there can no longer be any doubt about the abuses of power in light of country's founding principles. (IMHO).
Prayers for our country and our leaders are definitely in order.
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OOOPS... truthfinder... I didn't think about the spray!!! I think I'm out of luck!!!
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Yeah, it like being relegated to the smoking section.... out in the alley by the dumpsters, lol. Well, that's okay. As they say, it isn't where you are, it's who you are with that counts, right?
Well, the egg allergy was a good idea. Isn't there something else in ALL vaccines that we could be allergic to? I can't think of anything off the top of my head....
You know, any previous bad reaction to a vaccine is reason enough to avoid future vaccines of the same type in the veterinary world. For instance, an anaphylactic response can be life-threatening (like it was for one of my cats and the Feline Leukemia vaccine). Wouldn't that work?
It's probably time for this thread to die a natural death anyway, but it will be here should this `national emergency' amount to anything. Who ever heard of a national emergency situation that isn't even in the news after the first day? What a crazy world we live in. I hope we can change it back to a world that makes more sense.
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This fear of natural disasters is more effective than the cold war...
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True.
Yep, I'm thinkin' anaphylactic reaction, for sure.
I heard that the Obama kids got both regular and H1N1 flu vaccinations, and Barry and Michele just got the seasonal vac, so far, because of the shortage. Course, nobody actually witnessed any of that happening, but that's what is being told to the media.
Betcha the kids got the mecury-free version (assuming they got shots at all).
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