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I don't know if the alkaline diet is good to get rid of parasites. I read that stomach acid is what kills them. So, more acid foods may be a deterrent...
I think the alkaline diet is anti-cancer. I actually think we need a balance of acid & alkaline. I don't think it's a one size fits all equation. It depends on the individual.
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Oh my have I got some studying to do. Printing off this thread for follow-up instructions.
Gigi, I'm going to make appt with Dr K..I know he is booked far out into Jan '12 I heard.
I've cleaned my teeth/mouth up. I'm left with removal of one root canal(upper right molar) and one cavatation (upper left no teeth, all molars gone, quad nothing but local hang out in bone & tissue)
The upper left was area is the tooth I made the dentist pull from my being 4 days before the illness flu-like he!! started. July '99.
The dentist pulled this molar after I had spent 5 years and thousands of dollars to save it.
It throbbed like a hammered thumb day in and day out. I insisted my dentist pull it and he sent me on my way.
No abx, nothing but take pain relievers if it hurts. Dum dum released the largest toxic mess right into my body and most likely my bloodstream.
I truly thought I was going to die. A muscle testing chiro doctor in Illinois that I went to told me I had strep in my heart at one time and I was very blessed to have lived thru it.
Thanks to dum dum dentist. He was fired after I realized he wasn't helping me but toxic to my being. I'm slow it took me 3 yrs to learn that lesson.
I'm probably going to Washington DC to have that work done by doc that trained under Dr K. Recommendation by TammyN here on lymenet.
If I can't find someone closer to Louisville.
Gigi, my question for you is....parasites first or clean up dental quads first?
Or all of the above before my first visit to Dr K? My body is very sensitive to all major detoxing.
I've been thru rough times for 12 yrs, what's another year of killing parasites & toxic matter in my mouth.
I know you've posted in the past about great resources of knowledge/studies and resources from the University of Kentucky about cavitations....I'll start with that site looking for someone here closer.
Thanks for your wisedom. I did parasite killing off back in '05&'06. But since I'm a tick magnet I'm sure they are living it up again.
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sparkle, I really have no clue. Just posted that from a website I read. I'm sure you're right, but the pineapple is obviously a good thing to eat for parasites--and papaya seeds too.
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quote:Originally posted by gwb: jennie, you said, "I have been on Parastroy nearly 9 months. I switched to albendazole for 1 month, but Parastroy works better".
How do you know it works better? Is it from the "evidence" of what you see come out of you?
Yeah, the evidence said it all! I passed parasites a few days a week on albendazole. After switching back to Parastroy, I passed them for 9 days straight and now a few days per week.
Did the albendazole give you any unpleasant side effects? If so, what were they?
No unpleasant side effects.
What about Parastroy, did that have any unpleasant side effects?
No, just horrible herx when parsites die.
I've got some big parasites coming out of me and I'm getting sick from them. They come out the day AFTER a coffee enema. I'm going to the doctor in just a few minutes to show her the parasites and see if she will give me the meds that GIGI outlined above.
I showed my parasites to several docs. They ran tests, which were negative, and declared I did not have them...even though they looked at them! Whatever!
I suspect she's gonna not be too comfortable with it. If she doesn't give me an Rx for it, I have no clue as to what I'm gonna do. My LLND can't Rx meds, so it's up to this doctor to give me the Rx for the meds, or not.
According to what I've read, K believes that pharmacy meds are the only thing that's going to kill everything. If that's true, then it makes sense to use the meds instead of the herbal stuff.
I hate doing meds, but the parasites are really getting to me. Nausea, back pain, headaches, left side abdominal pain. Last three days I've had pain in my heart area off and on. I'm concerned that they're getting into my organs now.
I was doing pretty good for awhile until the parasites started showing up. Pretty frustrating to be sick like this again.
My parasite herxes have been worse than any other herx.
Gary
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Gary, "My parasite herxes have been worse than any other herx."
Have you tested if KPU is a problem for you. Of course, when you have a die-off of parasites, they are releasing toxic metals they held in storage (in their coats). So you need to get binders on board to take care of them. The metals then also release fungi, and you have to look out for that and take some antifungal stuff.
I have posted the Babuschka Principle many times. The reason Dr. K. has always encouraged to treat parasites early on is because they hold all the other miserables that are being released when die-off of parasites takes place. I am amazed how often I can post this proven stuff before anyone will pay attention to it. I feel like shutting up.
There is no great herxing if you prepare well. Of course the metals are also in the heart as they are everywhere. So when the parasites break, you need to watch out for the toxic metal release and prepare for it with binders. It happens within a day of the parasite killing.
Learn to test yourself with a tensor or pendulum and you will immediately know what your next move should be.
Be aware that this can be going on for months, and prepare yourself, and go at it very slowly.
If KPU is a problem for you and you do not have adequate amounts of the CORE agents in you, you are going to crash badly when the metals are starting to release. You simply do not have the proper agents on board to shuttle the metals through. I hope you have looked into the KPU situation and are taking CORE. I would guess that you definitely do not have enough zinc etc. on board. Scroll down to Dr.K.'s voice telling about KPU. http://planetthrive.com/2010/04/hpukpu-protocol-for-lyme-and-autism/
Hope this helps some.
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Gigi,
I have considered KPU...have a few of the symptoms.
I will be on my own taking supplements to see if any improvement.
The protocol states taking some meds before breakfast, with breakfast, etc. I take abx at breakfast...can the supplements be taken at the same time?
Does KPU ever resolve or is this a life-long treatment?
Thanks for all your help.
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Anybody know the mechanism behind why parasites cause low back pain?
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I don't know but I've had lower back pain since I was 17... My father had it, too. I thought it was genetic. Who knows?
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GiGi, thanks so much for responding to me and for the info on possibly finding a doc in my state. A few posts ago, you said that you called around to different pharmacies, including outside the U.S. Do I still need scripts from docs to get these meds if I purchase them out of state? I have been fighting these diseasee and co-infections for so log, but no doctors ever thought about attacking this way. Just very fired up to start and see if it works. I have tried everything else so it gives me new hope. Thank you, God bless
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Gigi, some of us(me) are mentally slow and have to do things one step at a time. If I read everything you ever posted on this site I would be Gigi #2.
I'm not. But I got your message. I will go back and read what you've posted so I can answer my own questions.
Gigi, I've been paying attention. I just went thru my folder and pulled out everything I printed off or wrote down that had your name or Dr K name on the piece of hand written paper by my own handwriting.
On April 1, 2003 you posted a list of 5-6 years of therapies and supps and everything major that you had done to try to recover.
On April 2 you posted supps, abx, heavy metal detox list and other notes about what you've done to fight this war.
While I was going thru this huge folder of notes and print outs I found stuff that I wrote down to do and stuff I printed off to do....
and here I am years later still plugging away at what I need to do.
By the way I found my hand written notes on Dr B and Dr K, they had done a lyme seminar together and I wrote down what was written by some other note taker.
Now could I have messed up my notes, you bet:
Dr K notes mold & lyme create superbug
antimicrobials needed
clear urine not good-Matrix Electrolytes 1 tbs quart of water Bio_pur has phosphorous
Lungworm-babs & bart live in lungs
Cork flooring is best
So, I remembered my notes correctly. I wrote what someone else wrote from the seminar. I might have misunderstood their notes but I'm usually pretty good at getting Dr K or Dr B stuff written or printed off.
By the way in roughly 6-12 months I'm getting new flooring in my home. I'm going cork, might do bamboo but I feel uneasy about bamboo for some reason. I've already priced cork and procedure and pros and cons of cork floor.
It's cheaper than beautiful hardwood floors, but I will not put something harmful to my being in my home.
Pam
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Just got back from the new MD/ND. He's a doctor who travels to Africa every year as a missionary. He admitted that my parasites were not like the ones he's seen in Africa, however, he was willing to do two things for me.
1. Let Metametrix do the GI panel test and test for parasites.
2. He Rx'd me some Albendazole to take just like GIGI said, Albendazole 400 mg 2 x l/daily for 14 days. He said to take a two week break and if needed to do it over again.
He did not feel comfortable with giving me Ivermectin, or some of the other meds as he felt they were too toxic and too hard on the liver. He said he's had excellent results with the people in Africa when he treats them with Albendazole.
So, hopefully this will do the job for me. He agreed with GIGI the colonics are a MUST and wants me to do it after the two week treatment. He said I could continue on the herbal antiparasitic while doing the meds. He never heard of DE before, so wasn't sure if it was a good idea to continue taking it with Albendazole or not. I think I probably will continue unless there's some reason why I should not.
He's very pro coffee enema and told me to keep up with it. He took blood tests, CBC, liver enzymes and one other test that I can't recall at the moment.
He never heard of Metametrix Labs but was more than willing to call them and find out what needed to be done to get me tested through them. I'll be getting a test kit sent to me at home from Metametrix then I will return it to Metametrix for testing.
They will fax the results to the doctor. He'll see me in two weeks with the results. He feels confident this will clear up the parasites, but if not, then I have a second refill to do it again for two more weeks. Not sure it's going to be as simple as he says, but it's a start.
I think I'll keep up with the DE, and alternate between the Gaia Para-Shield and the DE while taking Albendazole. Any thoughts on that?
Seems to be some differences of opinions regarding binders. What's the best way for me to go with binders? Take them or not take them? I for sure will continue with the coffee enemas and the chlorella, is that enough? I asked the doctor about the die-off and needing to take binders. He said no need for it. Not sure if he's experienced enough to know the answer to that.
So, that's the latest. Now I'm going to start the new meds, probably in the morning, and hope I survive them--and hope the parasites don't survive them. ; )
Any suggestions, comments and feedback is always welcomed and appreciated.
Thanks! Gary
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I'd probably hold off on the DE while taking the drugs. It might absorb the drugs & make them less effective... Just a thought in case the DE does the same thing as clay or charcoal. May be the case with chlorella, too.
You can always go back to it in a couple of weeks. You have to be careful with herbs combined with drugs. Sometimes, they can counteract each other. It depends. They don't always have the research between the two so you don't know for sure.
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Gary,
Sounds like a really productive appt with this Doc. Your lucky that he understands something about parasites.
I agree with sparkle about not taking DE while taking the drugs. I would just do the coffee enema. Will be interesting to see how effective the albendazole is.
Good Luck with this. keep us posted,
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I've been doing some research on Albendazole, this is some scary medicine! Some of the potential side effects are worse than the parasites symptoms. I wonder if it's really worth the risk or if it's best to just stay with the natural stuff?
I cannot imagine someone taking ALL of the various meds that K recommends taking for parasites. Has anyone taking all of these meds? Which one did you find the most difficult to tolerate?
I just don't know what to think now. I'm going to research this some more and see what people who've taken this have to say about it.
Is there anyone here who's taken Albendazole? If so, please share your experience with me.
Thanks!
Gary
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All of these questions and doubts we all have about taking this and that is exactly why Gigi has stressed a good muscle testing, actually ART trained doc like Dr K.
We aren't all blessed with knowing how to muscle test ourselves or have that healthwise true doctor that is truly acting in our best interests.
I had a muscle testing doc for 3 yrs. He did some wonderful things for me but there came a point where my body did not or would not communicate or tell what it truly needed. but I think this doc actually refused to learn anything about my issues and my body got tired of trying to get him to understand it wants.
I felt like his car payment. I moved on.
I think a good doctor keeps studying and researching and looking and learning and wanting to know more and more that can benefit his patients.
I hope that makes sense even to those of you that have never experienced a muscle testing voodoo(joke) type doctor. The body will speak you only need someone who knows how to listen to it.
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She wants me to do 6 weeks of Humaworm first and then retest. (i really don't see the need to retest but that's another story).
My liver is a little sluggish and my gall bladder isn't the most happy. I'm also having some kidney issues. They just are down in the dumps.
She said she will put me on these meds if I want to, but she thinks its wise to go slow and do herbal for now. I want to hurry up and go to war.
What is best? Should I wait to do the pharmaceuticals outlined here?
I do follow your info Gigi, i've bookmarked a many of your posts! it's just so much to wrap my lyme brain around at times and it's hard to know which way to go when you're new to the treatment game.
I really am convinced treating parasites first is the way to go. I would love to get my amalgam fillings out asap, but I feel like my system has SO MUCH to detox from. it's insane.
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i would say not. I never saw any parasites come out. but if i was only dealing with trichinella, i wouldn't. but... I feel like i have more left to address.
Plus.. EDS test picked up trace parasites and looked at intestinal flukes. So I know I have some things left.
My doc is afraid i can't handle this protocol because of the herxing
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Parasite herxing is very difficult. I like the herbs because you can back off & reduce dosage. I don't know if it's the same with the drugs. They seem kind of harsh or toxic - aside from the herxing.
I was considering going with the drugs but I dowsed it & asked a friend to dowse it for me, too. My friend said to add boron & DE & it would be as effective as the drugs. I tried it & it seems to be working.
The herxes from parasites can be very severe - more so than the side effects from the drugs... This is something that I wouldn't want to mess around with.
The die-off can be quite bad. Like unexpected diarrhea when you are in Walmart & they are cleaning the bathroom... Severe aches & pains. Bizarre stuff coming out in the toilet. Sensation of sandpaper in your colon - literally bug up your butt... pimples, insomnia, anxiety, etc.
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Albenza hadsn't given me any side effects. I take milk thistle to support my liver and do many things to help detox.
I don't see visible parasites (though actually I've been suspicious the past few days, but not all parasites are visible.
I think this bears repeating: not all parasites are big worms that will come out in the toilet.
I am taking the Dr K parasite protocol - you don't take them all at once. You cycle through. Each drug hits a different group of parasites, so some may cause more of a herx than others.
Frankly, I am much happier on the parasite protocol (and I have had some clear herxes) than I was on the doxy, which was just miserable non-stop AND gave me neutropenia.
I think the severity and type of herxing varies widely, based on the type, location, and severity of an individual's parasites.
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Gary, I'm not a fan of pharmaceuticals and neither is my doctor but she has me on albenza. The first time I took it I really had to hit the detox stuff. It is quite easy now and no noticeable side affects other than some weird dreams.
It is much gentler on me than the herbs I tried. My doctor says she thinks the parasites kind of get tortured with herbs - not a quick death and that is why people can have a hard time.
You can find scary info on the internet about just about anything. I always test the albenza and it has been a good one for me.
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I read on curezone that Albenza should be taken with fats otherwise it will not work as effectively. Couple other places said the same thing. The doctor said nothing about that to me. Do either of you, Nana and Garden, eat fats with it or any special instructions to follow when taking it?
My biggest concern is my kidney which this med warns about. I'm still researching and trying to decide what to do.
Thanks for your comments. I appreciate you sharing your experiences with this med.
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I do take with fat. The instructions from the pharmacy mention it, if you read allllll the fine print.
I add extra fat to my meal or take a spoonful of flaxseed oil.
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Neither my doctor nor the pharmacist said anything about it. I found out from curezone and doing a google search. I'm still reading the instructions that came with the meds but I need a magnifying glass as the print is so small. You'd think someone would mention this if it is important information.
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I know, right? Also, do not drink grapefruit juice while on Albenza. Why do they not tell us these things?
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Gary, my doctor told me to take it with a LOT of fat - stressed lot.
I eat an entire avocado with each pill.
Curezone will tell you it has to be chewed. My doc said no.
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Gary,
I have taken albendazole for one month at a time twice, between Parastroy. Parasites are still not gone.
When I switched back to Parastroy from albendazole, parasites came pouring out of me.
I have been battling parasites with Parastroy and albendazole for 9 months now.
Wish I could get Dr. K's recommended drugs.
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Nano see, this is where it all gets confusing. Several people say the meds should be crushed and mixed in food and taken with 40 grams of fat. Your doctor says not to crush it. Who to believe???
My doctor said nothing about how to take it. The pharmacist said nothing about it. I read ALL of the instructions with the meds and not one word in there about taking it with fats.
jennie, I was "lucky" to get Albendazole from this doctor. He is a missionary doctor who treats people every year in Africa with this med and he swears by it. He looked at the K protocol that I copied here, the one GIGI posted, and said that's way too much and too hard on the liver, too many toxins, even if it's spread out like he outlines. He wasn't going to give me anything else, just the Albendazole.
I doubt any doctor (other than K) will give anyone all those meds. Curezone has a list of websites where you can buy some of them online, others you have to buy at a feed store and try to figure out how to cut the doses down since most of the meds are for horses or big animals.
This is too confusing for me. I'm tempted to do the two weeks of Albendazole and see how it goes. Not the least bit excited about it. Some guy, who everyone claims to be a parasite expert on curezone, said all herbs do is kill a few parasites but most of them are scattered about throughout the body. He's a believer in herbs and all that, but feels the meds must be taken to do the job.
He says that Albendazole and Ivermectin need to be taken together as they work synergistically and are far more effective when taken together.
So, confusion abounds. Right now I'm leaning towards doing the meds then go and do a couple of colonics. The doctor suggested I do that and I planned on doing it anyway. Then wait and see what happens. I'll probably do like you are doing and take Parastroy after the two weeks of meds and colonics.
Thanks everyone for your input. If only life could be a bit more simple. I like simple, but simple doesn't like me. I suppose many of us feel the same way. One way or the other, we're gonna beat this bleeping disease! ; )
Gary
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To further complicate things, are we not supposed to have any fats becuase of the Biofilm?? I am on malarone, and abt to start Dr. K protocol. All the meds are supposed to be taken with fat, and I'm supposed to be on a non-fat diet?
Every dr sais something different. Auuuugggg!!
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I read the stuff on Curezone about the drugs. Some people say you have to take the drugs for months - even over a year. From what I read, many of the drugs are (or can be) toxic.
I know Gael did well without the drugs. I am doing so much better & I didn't take the drugs. I don't really know how these people who post can know for sure that the herbs make the parasites scatter throughout the body. Eventually, they will die.
First of all, not everyone has the same type of parasites.
Second of all, wouldn't the drugs do the same thing (ie: make the parasites scatter throughout the body)?
I think the advantage of herbs over drugs is that they are less toxic. If you have to take them for a long time, it seems that the herbs are safer since they are less toxic.
Just from experience, I think whichever way you go - you have to do it for a long time. With Parastroy - you can take it for 6 months & take a month off & do it again.
I don't think there's alot of data about drugs in regards to long term use, effectivness, & toxicity for humans. They have mostly been used on animals.
It is a difficult decision. Gary, in your case, you can try the drugs for a couple of weeks & see how it goes. You can always go back to the herbs later.
There are alot of options with herbs. There are different brands, different herbs - you can try salt/c or diatomaceous earth, boron, etc. It seems like you do have to stick with it for at least a year or more whichever way you go.
Rain-tree herbs (rain-tree.com) has this product which may be a good alternative to the traditional Western approach if you want to switch it up -
AMAZON A-P 120 capsules / 650 mg $31.95 A combination of rainforest plants which are traditionally used in South America for parasites.* Suggested use: 2 - 3 capsules twice daily with meals. Ingredients: a proprietary blend of amargo, simarouba, boldo, fedegoso, carqueja, quinine, erva tost�o, epazote, anamu, and graviola.
I've heard good things about it. I haven't tried it, yet. There are options...
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Also - I herxed alot from the Nutramedix Enula, Cumanda, & Quina... when I was doing the Cowden protocol. I know why now. These are all anti-parasite herbs. I thought it was from the Lyme as to why I herxed... in retrospect - it was parasites.
For me - I think I may have had the hidden lungworm & maybe others. You won't necessarily see that in the toilet. It takes practice spotting parasite looking things in your bowel movements - sorry to be so graphic. I think, you do really have to look, though.
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"The die-off can be quite bad. Like unexpected diarrhea when you are in Walmart & they are cleaning the bathroom... Severe aches & pains. Bizarre stuff coming out in the toilet. Sensation of sandpaper in your colon - literally bug up your butt... pimples, insomnia, anxiety, etc." (sparkle)
Sparkle, I feel this way now w/o any anti-parasitic drugs.
The only thing I've been on is A-Bab. I have acne on my chest and face and back. Seems like I need to shower at least twice a day if not 3 just to feel CLEAN. creepy crawly sensations and sores in that area. my eyes are dry itchy and patchy, i have insomnia, anxiety, and i am SO irritable! I just don't even want to be around people for very long.
so if this is gentle..i dont know. I was on albendazole and mebendazole for trichinella, I didn't experience any discomfort (dragged out agonizing discomfort) when on pharma.
My doc did agree to give me this entire list of meds. but she highly advised against it.
I told her I would try humaworm for 6 more weeks and then we can consider it at that time.
The WO helps the herbs to cross the blood brain barrier.
I'm going to try to confuse the buggers by doing this for 10 days or so and then go back to A-Bab for a week and then I should have Humaworm in the mail by then.
We'll see what happens, I try to keep my blog updated but it gets hard to find the time (energy) to write.
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Sorry you are so ill, FYRE...
Humaworm didn't seem strong enough to me. I thought the Parastroy was better & cheaper...
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I think you need the green, black walnut hulls - not the leaves + wormwood & cloves. I think the Systemic Formulas are a bit overrated - no offense to you or others...
Also - someone here had an adverse reaction to the Humaworm - so we all are different.
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How long did you try it?
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I may try the Pekana product Helminth. Pharmaceuticals and I do not go well together and usually herbs are hard on my tummy. I have done well with other Pekana products and this one is supposed to hit roundworms and tapeworms, so it is worth a try. So far I don't energetically test well for any anti-parasite drugs--prescription or herbs, so maybe I don't need them.
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sparkle7
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FYRE- yes, could be a good thing to try something else... We all need our own unique way to go about things.
Sometimes, it takes longer for people tp start purging parasites or you may not have the correct formula. Seems like it's "something" you are dealing with.
I don't mean to scare you but there are links between Morgellons & Lyme. It really does take time with the anti=parasite protocols. I've been doing this for a year or 2.
I'm finally starting to feel better!
Not everyone needs the heavy drug protocol. I'd take it slow at first. Parasite herxes are really bad!!!
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Fyre, when I showed my doctor the list that GIGI posted he was pretty shocked that someone would Rx all those toxic meds to his patients. He made it clear that I wasn't going to get anything more than Albendazole from him, at least not now.
However, he said if my parasite test from Metametrix (the lab I chose) comes back negative, then he'll consider adding Ivermectin, but he'd do it very reluctantly. He doesn't think it's a good drug, nor does he think it's necessary based on his own experience in treating parasites.
He claims to have had great success treating parasites every year when he goes on his missionary trips to Africa. He admitted my parasites were different than what he's seen in Africa. I'm not sure he ever saw parasites that looked like mine. He asked me if I ever went to another country. I actually did go to Mexico over ten years ago, but I told him it was most likely Lyme related.
He's familiar with Lyme disease and has patients who have lyme but he doesn't treat them for it. He understands what they go through and he doesn't brush them off as if it's all in their head. He's a pretty opened minded doctor for a MD/ND in our town. I'd go back to him just because he's open minded enough to let me share ideas with him and talk about lyme disease without rolling his eyes.
I asked him to refer me to a good GI doctor. He said it would be a total waste of time to see a GI doctor because they're not open minded enough to believe people in the US have parasites. I like his attitude. He is pro coffee enema and wants me to do colonics after I take the meds.
I think I finally found me a half way decent MD/ND here in OK. I look forward to getting the test kit from Metametrix and getting the test results back.
hiker, thanks for the pm and for sharing with me that information. I appreciate it and plan to respond to you soon.
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It took me 6 mos of strong herbs (16 caps a day,not suggesting anyone do that much) and then started salt/c and parasites started pouring out of me like pictured on Lymephotos.
FYRE,
It takes persistence with the herbs to get rid of these parasites One month is not nearly enough. I agree with sparkle as far as Parastroy being much stronger than Humaworm.
Adding salt/c could be a powerful adjunct as well.
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I really feel "Morgellons" is really the Filarial Worm co-infection. Gael
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Gael, I noticed today as I was drinking my salt/c that I would get a pressure inside the left side of my head. It only happened when I would drink the salt/c.
It lasted just for a few minutes then went away. Then again after I took another sip of the salt/c water the head pressure returned. No pain, just pressure.
I'm only using 1/8 tsp of himalayan salt and 1/8 tsp of c. Do you know what might cause this? Have you heard of anyone else experience this with salt/c?
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quote:Originally posted by gwb: Fyre, when I showed my doctor the list that GIGI posted he was pretty shocked that someone would Rx all those toxic meds to his patients.
This is exactly why it's so dangerous to post doctor's protocols ....
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Gary, No, I haven't heard anyone talk about that particular symptom when drinking the salt/c. I did however experience a swelling which eventually turned into a bump(s) all over my scalp.
That occured with the herbs and then the salt/c. If you have any parasites in the head area, they will start running from the salt and cause different sensations.
It can happen at low doses. The salt is VERY antiparasitic and also acts against borrelia, and other co-infections.
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six, just so you know, he doesn't know who gave me the list, no names of doctors or lymenet users were mentioned. He had no interest in who's protocol it was and I had no intentions of telling him.
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Yeah, the evidence said it all! I passed parasites a few days a week on albendazole. After switching back to Parastroy, I passed them for 9 days straight and now a few days per week. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
No unpleasant side effects.![[Mad]](mad.gif)
No, just horrible herx when parsites die.![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
I showed my parasites to several docs. They ran tests, which were negative, and declared I did not have them...even though they looked at them! Whatever!![[bonk]](graemlins/bonk.gif)
My parasite herxes have been worse than any other herx.
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