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Has anyone tried Biophoton therapy? My friend has Lyme and has not taken any abx.
She feels great and feels that Biophoton therapy and natural supplements has helped pretty much put her in remission.
You cannot be on abx when doing this. I'm afraid to go off them to try it. Was wondering if anyone else had any experience with it?
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Just curious where she had her photon treatment....in the US or another country?
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Koo- yes the tx is in the US. They get trained out of the country though.
My friend said she herxed after the tx but feels sooo much better now.She used to go a couple times a week, now she only goes once every 3 weeks or so.
She feels her Lyme is gone (or in remission) and now she is addressing her metallic toxicity.
She is doing really well with both.I'm just afraid to go off abx to do it.
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I would like to know where in the US does this. Not everyone can get to Germany easily.
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I know they do in WI. There should be more people in the US that does it.?
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I agree with Kimmie-photons + nosodes is the most effective therapy I have done so far. And when it's guided by energetic testing-you can't find anything better than this.
Prior to that, I was on abx for 2.5 years-and NONE of co-infections were killed. When I started photons last year- energetic tests showed that ALL co-infections were active.
However, after 11 months of photons almost all co-infections are dormant (I�ve had at least a dozen of them). I�m working on 3 species of Mycoplasma right now that showed up after removing an emotional blockage.
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It seems like people are doing well with the photon therapies. Does anyone know of a practitioner doing this in the DC, VA, MD area? I checked the link that Healing in Santa Cruz posted but there was no one in my area. Hoping that someone else knows of a practitioner in this area.
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Or in the NJ, PA, NY areas?
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I couldnt find any in my area, so I'm doing it by myself. I have learned a lot from people on LN who did it before me.
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We too are home treating, after starting with a practitioner.
It was so far for us to travel (6 hour round trip)that it was a better choice for us to buy a home unit.
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I'm also in the Mid-Atlantic and can't find anywhere close. However, if this really worked I'd travel in order to do it.
I guess if you don't go to a center, you have to also have someone who does ART testing regularly, correct?
How long does one do the therapy? I know it depends on how sick you are, but is it something that can be done via traveling to a center or do you need it daily or weekly over the course of many months?
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Based on my personal experience, in the beginning when you have multiple active infections , you would have to treat 2 times per week.
I would say ART is a must, because as active co-infections go dormant-other ones come to the surface. So without knowing which infection is surfaced it would be impossible to treat.
Treating Lyme is all about layers, when you do energetic tests you actually see it very clear.
I say it is very possible to learn how to do it by yourself. PE-1 device is about 1600$ + the cost of nosodes. Energetic tests also can be done at home using dowsing or tensor.
I think it�s a kind of a habit to put responsibility to get better on somebody else. But in case of Lyme � there is so little we know about this disease, everything is experimental , so it�s very hard to find good physician that is knowledgeable, caring, available and affordable.
Therefore I�m my own doctor. Nobody cares more about me that myself. I try to learn and search for information as much as I can. I think it is paying off. During this year that I treat by myself I have progressed the most!
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Dr M? or Dr. W in Germany?
for the ones going to Germany or elsewhere, I think it would worth to invest in a machine to continue treatment at home later. Even the cheaper models may help, I feel...
I also got well with energetic tests and photons. ART helps a lot (dr. K's techinique). They can be combined.
This is a war against information. Who gets the most true, correct information, wins.
Knowing is power, specially in complicated chronic diseases, like lyme. Not knowing takes you not far, makes you lose time in circles, in false guesses.
With energy tests, you still guess, but nothing compared to shooting in total darkness.
The speed of healing can skyrocket in comparison with people that do not test.
A good testing method for diagnosing is also important, that is where ART enters. Only energy tests without a purpose, without a method, a way to put things in perspective, what is important, what is less important, is also not too helpful.
I still use the same method to treat colds and any infections. I treated my daughter a few weeks ago for dengue fever using homeopathic Ledum taken by photons! She recovered fast without any bad consequences.
Good luck to all trying this. It is fast to deal with borrelia, but all the rest, you will still have to deal in other ways, when you get back home.
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I found it worth going to Germany. He has different nosodes than we can buy here. He called them "live vials" but I'm not sure what that means. He said only doctors over there were allowed to have them and here only specialty labs, not even doctors here are allowed to have them.
But I think starting out with these stronger vials was beneficial. It seems to me that it takes a bit longer, but still can be done, without those vials.
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Where are people getting nosodes? I'm finally ready to do this treatment and have a PE1. But ergopathics has been taken over and won't be shipping out until May, and Deseret's borrelia series seems to have 3 tbd in one (borrelia babesia and erlichia).
Anybody have a good source for some nosodes?
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I think people use Deseret even though they are three in one. They are real nosodes. Some nosodes out there are just energetic nosodes.
Once you feel you are ready, you can switch to blood, and that will get other infections. The nosodes are just to beat down the Lyme a bit before you start going after more.
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Gosh I wish more practitioners were doing this in the US. It looks like it is catching on but unfortunately that doesn't help me at the moment.
I am sure it is worth it to travel to have it done or to buy your own machine and learn to do it yourself. Unfortunately at the moment I can't afford to do either of those things which is why I was hoping to find a practitioner in my area.
If anyone ever hears of a practitioner in the DC, VA, MD area definitely let me know. I would greatly appreciate it.
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Yes, it is Dr M (not Dr W). We were given his name by the Bionic880 company. Has any one had any experience with him? Seems Dr W is not available?
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Dr. W may not be available according to the bionic company because he no longer uses their product. I believe he has new machine that he uses. Have you tried calling Dr. W's office?
I sent you a pm with his number.
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Thanks goofy. I don't want to treat three in one. That may not be what my body wants to do at all. If we are doing ART we need to see what the body wants to treat first and in what potency so I'm going to have to do a little more research.
I may ask Deseret why they don't separate them out.
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Blood nosode didn't work for me, since pathogens move into tissues and don't stay in blood. I' ve used Desbio nosodes for D dilutions and ordered C dilutions from Hildegard pharmacy in Brussels Belgium. They ship internationally.
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kimmie, do you know where deseret's plain borrelia is? I'd love to have a plain borrelia, plain babesia, and a weaponized mycoplasma (but maybe regular would do, as similar enough).
I could start with borrelia though. I've looked and not found it and my doc has the combo too.
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Anuta what is Desbio? I'm going to look that up and Hildegard in Brussels unless you have a # or email you could PM me?
Thanks much!!
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Hiker53, yes I think they do have bartonella and mycoplasma. But I intuitively do not feel bartonella is a big deal for me.
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Desbio is DeseretBiologics. I will pm you hildegard e- mail. They have all pathogens that you can only imagine in all potencies and cheap.
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Oxygenbabe. The borrelia nosodes are on their website under series therapy. They are not a combination nosodes.
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I got mine in a pharmacy in Germany. They all can order Staufen Pharma nosodes. But we can't order directly at Staufen. These are the nosodes used by dr. W.
I wouldn't use Ergopathics. I have some copies at home of other of their products, they were all 'erased' after some time. My borrelia nosodes from Staufen pharma are still active today, since 2009 when I first used them!!
Possibly Deseret Biologicals would be a good alternative as I heard their Bartonella nosodes were pretty good to many people.
FOr higher potencies, I know that Hildegard Pharmacy in Belgium does make them and ship to the US.
THey will even make the lower potencies too, but individually, as far as I know. So the costs will be a bith highter than buying the series of Stauphen or Desbio.
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Oxygen babe: start with individual borrelia nosodes ONLY. They will be enough for your body to handle. After you may add something else. That is what I would do.
----- As far as I know, dr. W is still treating people, not with the Bionic, but with another photon machine.
I never used the non-diluted nosodes and got well without these.
So did my daughter and some other people I know.
After treating borrelia, other issues are easier to handle. Somehow, borrelia is extremely immunosuppressive. Candida too, but not as much as borrelia, in my feeling.
Getting rid of borrelia is a great step ahead for anyone. Once it is dormant, other infections become more easy to treat, or go in remission on their own...
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Thanks Brussels. Is there a pharmacy in germany that will ship to me (or to a friend in france is a possibility)?
Kimmie, I haven't yet located the individual borrelia from deseret. I'll look again.
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I agree, it has been the best treatment I have done so far without a doubt. I will say that using proper dilutions has been key for me. Anuta has been a huge help.
I know there are many doctors trained in Germany with photons. I would find the best fit for you personally. All of them offer a little something different at least that was my experience. For example in Connie's book, http://www.amazon.com/Insights-Into-Lyme-Disease-Treatment/dp/0982513801#reader_0982513801, there is a Heilpraktiker that is very holistic and I think after getting back I would say, that has a lot of merit.
I do think this is a treatment that can be done in the states especially if you find a practitioner. Even if you do not, there are folks here to learn from. I feel I have been given my life back and I am ever grateful to all those that have gone before me and continue to help me.
Blessings ...
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Oxygen, would you like me to buy it for you? It costs about 20-30 euro, I think. I can check it out. Send me a PM.
Why don't you try first Desbio series, I'm sure it will cost you less in postal fees!
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So glad to see you have your life back too!!!
It is a blessing, isn't it?
If all knew how easy it is to have borrelia under control using this treatment. At least, for us. Nothing worked as fast, as easy and so smooth.
And reaching the deepest parts of our bodies, bones, brain, joints, GI tract, everything.... Even your outside field gets treated!!!
Not an end to all disease, but an end to borrelia means so much.
Treating the rest is a piece of cake, for the ones who have fought this as bad as us... when our borrelia got dormant, we truly understood how much borrelia is immunosupressive. And why it is so hellish to treat infections while borrelia is active.
After it is dormant, you finally get time to treat the KPU, heavy metals, teeth, EMRs, allergies, clean your environment, get back to your old social network, get back to your hobbies, etc. That is when life is a blessing again!!
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I am due to receive my machine in early May. For you research types, I have always wondered whether the light stimulation could do harm as well as good. I believe illness such as cancer are "cells gone wild". While I understand Rife technology as well and have and older machine I was always a little reluctant to use on my small children at the time. They are all grown up and still fighting this disease. Anybody that has done some research of the concept of light stimulation being safe as well as Rife being able to isolate to only the frequency of the pathogen would be much appreciated.
Thanks
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Yes, there are people who overdid it. Dr. W was very specific that breaks were necessary. He had a three week twice a week treatment plan, then four weeks off.
It's not to be done every day. And the weeks off are as important as the treatment times in order to allow the body to catch up and take care of the things it was given the energy to take care of.
I don't think there will be any connection to this causing cancer .... I think it's more that it has the capability of initiating more work than your body can handle.
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Anuta & Brussels, Hildegaard got back to me by email and their prices seem quite reasonable. I think I will try a borrelia series from them and maybe babesia. I'll just start with those two since they were the leading infections in my big bad tickbite. I got a bullseye in 12 days, and it must have been a virulent strain as the rash was already disseminating later that day, when I started on antibiotics. I think it had babesia too because of my symptoms, severity, the prevalence of babesia in that area of Connecticut, and because I later tested positive (theoretically I could ahve picked up babesia some other time...but I"ll assume that was why I got so sick, a multiply infected tick).
They are offering me C and D potencies. I might as well get both? Is nobody using C potencies for photons? As soon as I hear back on advice I will order from them.
Thank you all. I'm going to need a brushup tutorial or do a lot of reading on old threads to remember the acupuncture points and so on.
JCarl, I have used photon machines, including the Xlight, for years, but I use them in limited amounts. The Xlight also uses nogier frequencies. It's really quite poweful and for all I know might be a good starter device on photon therapy for those with less money (it's $350). It's small and battery or ac/dc operated. In any case, sometimes it puts me to sleep. But I think as long as you don't overdo it, it is safe. NASA has studied red and infrared for healing mucosal tissue after radiation, for instance. I think Rife machines, with strong EMF, might be more concerning. But of course caution is always good.
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JCarlhelp - I think the only caution about using the infrared light is that it may cause problems if you have parasites. This was my experience. Some people felt it can cause uncontrolled release or redistribution of toxins, too.
I don't think anyone here has mentioned using the infrared light in doing an anti-parasite protocol. I don't think it's advised but others may share their knowledge or info on this.
In my case, I think I was mis-diagnosed with Lyme, etc. I think my true problems was with parasites. I had no clue that was an issue. I don't think using infrared light was helpful for that. I had a bad reaction to using the infrared light due to that.
I've been a bit standoffish about using it again. I had no idea it would take this long to get rid of parasites. It's been about 3 years that I have been treating them.
I have a LightWorks which is not as strong as the PE1. I think these treatments are of a very different caliber than medicine with herbs or drugs. I think they can be very effective but you have to be careful with it.
I don't think the light is harmful or carcinogenic per se but it can cause unpredictable healing reactions. Be sure to take breaks & use binders to absorb toxins. Healing is a process.
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Oxygenbabe: C-dilutions are MUST if you want to eradicate the pathogen. Only doing D is not enough. I think that many people who went to Germany and continued with D-nosodes after didn�t get well because of that.
If you will do energetic tests you will see, if you stop treating at 200D, the pathogen load will be diminished , so it will stop testing for a while but then it will come back.
I always order 30D, 60D, 100D, 200D, 30C, 60C, 100C, 200C and MK dilutions and use them till the end. Usually after ingesting MK for a 2-3 times pathogen goes into dormancy.
Sparkle: based on my tests, using antiparasatic VER nosode (which is a combination of multiple worms and protozoa) from Deseret Biologic was killing parasites, but not eradicating completely. I had to add Parastroy , Mimosa and salt/C to help eradicate. Never my tests showed that using infra-red is beneficial for parasite growth. After 3 months of this anti-parasite protocol it stopped testing.
By the way while doing all those anti-parasitic treatments, my tests showed that salt/C kills Mycoplasma and Ivermectin is very bactericidal almost to all co-infections ( showed very high effect on Ehrlichia and Anaplasma).
That brought me to think that people who do better on anti-parasitic protocol might at the same time treat co-infections too.
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