oxygenbabe
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Anuta, sounds like I could use some coaching from you. Do you skype? Do you feel up to a coaching session?
Are "D" the equivalent of "X" in USA? I'll google that and I will definitely order C and D. I shall call the pharmacy in the morning here, afternoon there.
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Sure we can skype. It would have to be on the WE, since I work full time.
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Anuta is right on dilutions. These are exactly the ones I treated. I did use stronger ones, before 30 D (or 30x), such as 5D, 6D, 10d, 12D, as they come in the nosode series of Staufen Pharma.
Oxygen: great you contacted Hildegard. Their products are very high quality. Just ask them to pack on alu foil, to prevent damaging with X rays...
JCarl: I used dr. K's KMT 24, with microcurrent. It did feel good, and helped me for a while. It is much milder than RIfe, like a TENS machine. I never anymore touched it later. It's in the box for about 5-6 years now. I only use the PE1.
The photonic machine has sunlight frequencies, in the infrared range. It is not UV, that can be carcinogenic.
I find it perfectly safe, if not overdone. I use it even in my eyes, flashed directly to them, sometimes. I've been using it since 2009, when I bought it.
My daughter too. I use it for everything, like bruises, muscle pains, tendinitis, burns, any pain that may come, stomach disorders, diarrhea, colds, whatever comes in my mind. My friend used to take cattahr from lungs and from sinuses, she said it worked pretty well after she tried so many products, unsuccefully.
I use it also for some accupuncture points, to stimulate them.
THe PE1 has some EMR emissions, radio frequencies, according to the maker. So for the very electrosensitive people, it may feel strong.
WHen I was sick with lyme, I couldn't bear direct frequencies from the PE1 for more than a couple of minutes.
Now that lyme is long gone, I can bear anything, but I rarely use direct mode as I do not treat borrelia anymore. Even if I needed it, direct mode is only used to 'take' the nosode information.
I basically use pulsed mode, that is MUUUCH milder than direct mode.
I have a Rife machine at home, and I can count in my fingers how many times I used it. I hate the electric feeling going through my body. I never used it in my daughter either. I am afraid of Rife frequencies too.
But I use photons to anyone. I think there is the danger of overdoing (too much killing), of some pathogens that may love photons too, of heavy metals that are put on the move (I use the machine for heavy metal detox on joints, under teeth, etc)....
And doing too much before sleeping may excite some glands, I believe, and it is hard to fall asleep after. Probably it is also the EMR from radio frequencies that excite the hypophyse?
In my case, I do use these infrared in my own kid without thinking further. Even to treat a cold, I may use it.
I am someone that is afraid of taking aspirins. I can't even remember the last time I took an aspirin. Husband neither.
I'm afraid of aspirins, but not of my photon machine!!
My daughter rarely take any chemicals either. Maybe once a year, I would give her an antifever medicine to let her sleep, but that's it, that is what I give her in a whole year. Otherwise, I only treat her with herbs, supplements, homeopathy, light and tapping.
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Thanks Brussels & Anuta. I'm so used to the ability to click "like" on posts on other boards, I wanted to do so here. :-)
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Ordered my nosodes from Hildegaard-- Brussels ya gonna be hearin' from me soon! :-)
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Thanks aunta. I'll look into it! I tend to like holistic treatments better than drugs but I decided to try fenbendazole. I read it's good in combination with ivermectin. It creates a synergistic effect. Alot of people with Morgellons do quite well with it.
I'd have to check it the Desbio remedy has lungworm. The parasites are quite different from each other. I don't think one remedy could treat all parasites. I suspect that weaponized pathogens may have parasite or fungal components. That may be why anti-parasite treatments are effective for co-infections.
People with Morgellons often test positive for Lyme.
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Brussels, thank you... You, Six, and Anuta have been so much help to me... thank you from the bottom of my heart! Posts: 859 | From Southeast | Registered: Mar 2011
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Okay, so this sounds very expensive and not something a person living on a tiny disability check could afford. Correct?
I wish we could level the playing field.
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The PE1 is about $1700. Sounds expensive, yet when you consider what LLMD's cost, it's not.
I spent $5000 on the German treatment, not including the Bionic. I have not been back to the LLMD since. I had been spending $20k+ on lyme treatment, so I do not consider this to be an expensive therapy.
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Is 20 ml a large vial for a nosode? That was what Hildegaard initially offered but it seems to me I don't need anything that large. This is liquid, right?
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I bought some small glass clear containers and used a syringe to draw up a small amount of liquid to make a nosode. The nosodes I bought from England came in larger dark bottles and so did the ones from Deseret. A 20 ml vial is pretty large. Can the vials be opened?
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Hildegard nosodes come in sugar pellets, usually 80 pellets per potency in a plastic tube. Then for treatment you would have to dilute a pellet in water and put it in a clear vial.
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Hildegard can make me liquid nosodes, if I ask, anuta. Is putting one pellet in water the same potency? Theoretically if I accidentally succuse it just by storing or moving it, it would change potency? I don't know. I guess it would be the same because I have extended my homeopathic remedies that way, mainly because if I was treating daily, I was told to slightly vary my potency. IE if I put a few pellets in a dropper bottle, I'd shake it 4-7 times before using each time, as the body would accept it more that way.
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Where is Brussels... So either I get little glass drams, and put sugar pellets with water in them, or put some of my liquid nosode in them. Any preference? I'm a little impatient and frustrated as I've been back and forth with Hildegaard all week on this. Not their fault at all--I suddenly didn't know what to order.
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Thought I'd post a new twist as to why photon therapy is useful more at the DNA level. Read the following carefully and hopefully it will provide new insights into biophoton therapy and how it helps.
It appears biophotons are the trigger for live formation. It has been used to transform a toad embryo to become a salamander embryo. Do some research on the scientist listed in Lynn's write-up.
If you have say hair you've saved from when you were young. That DNA with either coherent or non-coherent light might be able to repattern the bodies DNA to be more youthful. You have to question how much we are chemical versus light beings and it could explain the success of all of us who've stepped into the light.
The article seems to confirm the idea that biophotons seem to animate life itself. It would be interesting to continue the discussion with that premise.
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Oxygenbabe: Diluting the pellet and succusing will change the potency, but not much. Let�s say instead of 30D you will have 31D after dilution. I really don�t think it is a big deal. I succus the vials 30 times every time before I treat to �activate� them if I can use this word.
It is your personal preference to order pellets or liquids. I prefer pellets. It is more stable over time and more durable against EMR during transportation (VERY IMPORTANT!) and storage.
Bob : Great article! Infrared is used everywhere in Russia (medical use in doctor�s offices and self-care, cosmetology- very wide range). I do have my baby hair saved, should I make a nosode out of it ?
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Okay, anuta, I'll do it! I hope you will advise me...
As to why they work, it's all interesting and there is new research on photon signatures of cells in tissues near a cancer and how they change...but frankly, I'm more interested in practical matters of who used it, how they used it, and what improved.
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Anuta, where do you get glass drams? Should I look on amazon?
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Sure oxygenbabe, no problem. I order drams on line, someting like firstvilas.com
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O2 -- I've used it in many ways:
> lyme nosode and blood nosode with the LED. I'm hoping it encourages the immune system > poison ivy rash I'll use it over the rash and I believe it improves it more quickly > swollen lymph it definitely improves circulation > oxygenating cell tissue > I believe it increases hormone production when used on the crown chakra or over the thymus, thyroid, pituatary, pineal gland, adrenals. > aches and pains -- again improved circulation
With these aspect of what it can do, it is up to the person to determine how to apply and why. A simple test is to use every day over a painful area and gauge for yourself what it does.
What needs to be explored is the use of it on healthy DNA applied to unhealthy DNA. It might have a practical application here. It might just bring back some youthfulness -- I'm sure this would raise the giggle factor.
Using LEDs successfully, I believe is the state of mind during use which is extremely important. It probably won't work by itself, the operator has to apply it as a lever accentuating mind over matter.
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I'm just going to use it on the tickborne infections. I have ordered my nosodes from Hildegaard, starting with borrelia and babesia.
Does anyone think strain variation matters? IE babesia microti versus babesia duncani etc.
I have used my xlight for pain and it worked really well. It's a much smaller device than the PE1. I think it's the nogier frequencies there that matter.
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I have treated both Babesia microti and Babesia duncani with nosodes. At first I was testing positive for both at the same time, but after 2 months Babesia microti stopped testing. However it took another 2 months for Babesia duncani to stop testing.
Right now I see the same thing with Mycoplasmas. At first I was positive for 5 strains, now only one is still testing.
So i would say it is important for some pathogens , but not for all. You would have to test it energetically.
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anuta--i should tell them babesia microti, then. did you get all the strains from hildegaard? thank you.
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Yes, all these nosodes were from Hildegard
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Thanks. When I get time I"m going to do a search on your name, anuta, so I can compile your posts and see what you've done, then I may have some questions but you won't have to repeat yourself :-)
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Strain variation: I do not think it matters much as homeopathy is treating using SIMILARS, basically.
Sorry I've been out for a while!
Storage: much better are the sugar pellets. THey last a century!
You can succuss the liquid vials again. I do that due to excess of EMRs in our environment. They do get somehow stronger, but that is not a great deal. Better stronger than weaker, or without information.
Another way to get away with infections (OF ALL SORTS) is to use Penicylyn nosodes. Which strains, just look into Sanum literature, order the pellets in the SMALLEST dilution possible, then dilute them in water.
You get REALLY life saving remedies that are at your hand any time, for decades, for almost free!!!
-------- RIVENDEL: If you find the PE1 expensive, buy another. Some people swore by the Sota Lightworks too, much cheaper, but much less potent (about 10% of the potency of the PE1).
Nosodes cost almost nothing, and consider that they may last your whole life if stored correctly, so it's peanuts. --- Hiker
Dark bottles do not work as well. THERE MUST BE light passing through the bottles, to be effective.
-------- The best treatment for teeth infections, specially root infections, is light, for me. I use Sanum nosodes on the solar plexus and do the same procedure. The pain goes out soooo fast, it is amazing.
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I agree that dark bottles do not work as well. I bought my solutions in dark bottles and then transferred small amounts to a clear bottle with a syringe.
I bought liquids--didn't even think about pellets-so I wanted them in dark bottles for storage, but not to use with photons.
Thanks.
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Brussels & Anuta, my potencies in D and C in borrelia and babesia are on their way, in pellets, to be wrapped in foil I hope (I asked, but...hope they do).
I also ordered 1 dram vials online, 25 of them.
I will ask for advice when I get them.
For those of you who do not have cash for Pe1 I have used Sota and Pe1 and xlight, and I recommend the latter. It is waaaaaaay more potent than Sota, because it contains nogier frequencies and various lights. It is really strong. I believe it is still for sale, go here
WHen I get up and running with these photons I will try a comparison session. I have used the xlight for pain and for sleep. I only use red and infrared but it also has blue and white.
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I just started Biophoton therapy last week, and have been told by my Biontologist, who is trained under Johan Boswinkel (inventor of the Chiren & been working with Biophotons since 1982), that supplements may interfere with treatment, and to go off of all my supplements.
Did anyone notice more success while staying off supplements while getting treatment?
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Dr. W also had us get off everything but the necessary. I still took iron and thyroid as those were necessary. I also took sleep meds because I was too addicted to stop cold turkey. It took me six months to wean off those.
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It is hard to tell without energetic tests done. Depending on your body needs you might actually benefit more by adding some supplements.
Definitely detox part has to be addressed, I take mostly homeo detox remedies as well as organ support, however sometimes I test for Milk Thistle for liver detox. Not detoxing properly and killing pathogens with photons can make you even more sick.
I also sometimes take thyroid and adrenal support homeo and supplements when I test for it.
Adding Core supplement to address KPU was HUGE part of my recovery. When added Core, I stopped testing for most of the supplements that I was previously taking, as it have opened detox pathways.
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Anuta: Thanks for your input. Would you recommend that I get ART done before I decide to stop all my supplements or even go back for further Biophoton therapy?
For someone who is limited in funds, what would any of you suggest is the best route to take? Do I continue paying for Biophoton therapy, or do I buy my own unit, such as the PE1? How often should you go back for ART?
I appreciate all the knowledge provided here on this thread.
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I would recommend to everybody on this site, despite of what kind of treatment you have chosen, abx, photons, herbal, etc� to do energetic tests (ART or dowsing, doesn�t matter). The priority to treat can change every week, even often sometimes. If you don�t know what to address how you would address it?
I see energetic tests as a key to success!!! I have started testing energetically and the photon treatment about a year ago and during this year I have progressed the most.
Especially if you are restricted in funds, this will cut-off all unnecessary spending, you will only do the things that your body needs at the moment. Ideally is to do it every day, I do test 2 or 3 times per day, but I do it myself. It is not hard to learn it.
I also prefer to have my own PE-1 device to be able to treat when I need and if you have multiple family members that are sick (my husband has Lyme too), it is a necessity.
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Anuta - I completely agree. What method of testing do you use? I've tried dousing with mixed results. And my tensor seems confused...haha.
I'm on a mission to learn some form of testing. Any suggestions would be great.
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If people want to learn how to energy test, try various ways, you can buy The Emotion Code on Amazon. It's useful. I find using the O-ring (thumb and forefinger, and try to pull them apart, or even standing and feel which way I lean, works, unless I am *anxious* about or emotionally involved in the answer.
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Anuta, have you posted elsewhere on the forum about your results with KPU?
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I've heard GiGi talk about this for years....so it's been on my 'list' of things learn for a long time.
I also want to learn how to deal with blocked regulation, so you can be sure your testing results are accurate.
A friend is going to loan me his Dr. K ART tapes. It's probably way more involved than I even realize, so we'll see.....
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quote:Originally posted by anuta: I would recommend to everybody on this site, despite of what kind of treatment you have chosen, abx, photons, herbal, etc� to do energetic tests (ART or dowsing, doesn�t matter). The priority to treat can change every week, even often sometimes. If you don�t know what to address how you would address it?
I see energetic tests as a key to success!!! I have started testing energetically and the photon treatment about a year ago and during this year I have progressed the most.
Especially if you are restricted in funds, this will cut-off all unnecessary spending, you will only do the things that your body needs at the moment. Ideally is to do it every day, I do test 2 or 3 times per day, but I do it myself. It is not hard to learn it.
I also prefer to have my own PE-1 device to be able to treat when I need and if you have multiple family members that are sick (my husband has Lyme too), it is a necessity.
Thanks Anuta..
My Biontologist claims that her Chiren machine will tell you exactly what needs to be addressed and only if your body wants/needs it, it will take the treatment. She said my body wanted the treatment for lyme, so although she cannot legally diagnose me, she is certain that the lyme is one of my main culprits. She also treated me for heavy metals on Monday. Nothing done with co-infections yet.
I have an appointment in 3 weeks with an ART practitioner who has worked with Dr. K for the past 8 years. She seems to be very lyme literate.
I was watching youtube clips of Dr. Omura`s O-ring testing in Japan, and it looked very interesting. Seems like its easy to perform on your own or with anyone.
Money will definitely become an issue for me, and I would like to follow your idea of getting a PE1 unit and treat myself on a year round basis. I will not be able to afford my Biontologist for much longer, and realize I will need long term treatment.
Is the PE1 hard to use? One of my worse symptoms is reading comprehension and learning new things. I have learned much of my stuff from this board slowly over the past 13 years and video clips.
Thanks for all the information.
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Oxygenbabe: I think have posted few times about KPU. I�m still on Core, as my toxic load goes down, the dosage of Core also goes down.
Last week I�ve treated Rickettsia, as I �found� it in my jaw, so the next day I had to increase the dose of Core. When I started the supplement I was severely depleted., so it was tough, but in 2 months I felt 100% .
Tammy: testing for blocked regulation is the first test of energetic tests . But since I started using photons , my regulation is always open. Excessive toxins before or during treatment will almost always cause blocked regulation, the easiest way to unblock it for me is tapping.
It is amazing thing to see- you tap for 1-2 minutes and your regulations opens. I learn tons of things by watching Dr.K. seminars on DVDs. You can buy it on his website.
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Anuta, do you have a link to Dr. K on tapping?
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Oxygenbabe: unfortunately DR.K courses are on DVD, but you can check-out Dr. Mercola EFT points and technique here http://eft.mercola.com/.
Dr. K. MFT is just slightly different as he is using few additional tapping points (ie. back of the head) and recommends to make humming sound when there is no affirmation said. Tapping top of the head and the eyebrows always work well for unblocking.
Tammy: I combine few techniques in one. I use Biotensor and it feels like it became a part of me. I also do O-ring, but I always recheck with tensor just to make sure. Plus I use Dr. K technique to check for switching, unblocking and body scan per organs.
I guess you can just adapt the methods to whatever works for you. For example, DR. K. using arm tests, but you always need an �arm person� to be able to test and you can�t test yourself with this method.
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Hello: Brussels appears to have offered to buy nosodes and ship them to people in the USA? If this is the case, I would very much be interested. Anyone else living in Germany or near a pharmacy with nosodes who could do this, please PM me. Much thanks.
I have some DesBio and a few other nosodes but they are years old and I fear they have lost their potencies.
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You can order any types and any potencies of the nosodes by e-mail [email protected] from Hildegard pharmacy in Belgium. They ship to North America.
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Dan67 I don�t know what do you mean when you say a little bit better nosode. I have used all of them from Staufen, Desbio and Hildegard and others with great results.
I prefer Hildegard over all because they are custom made, so you can have any potencies of any pathogen that you would like. Other companies don�t even have nosodes that you can request from Hildegard.
I always order sugar pellets (better for storage!!) in potencies 30D, 60D, 100D, 200D, 30C, 60C, 100C, 200C, 1000C for all pathogens. But you have to test energetically or ART for which ones to use at the moment. You normally start with the lowest dilution(D) and work it up to the highest (C).
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koo: I�m sorry you find it difficult. It is not that difficult but I would say quite different from what we used too in the western medicine.
Homeopathy, energetic tests and energetic treatment�it all belongs to the quantum world. I find it very exciting living in this world and I�m kind of glad that I discovered it, even though trough suffering and having an awful disease. Still I�m very grateful!!!
You just have to accept it, I think this is the most difficult part. However, I don�t think Lyme patients have much of a choice.
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Dan: You have to dissolve pellets in water using clear vials when photoning.
About the cost: One dilution (about 80 pellets) costs about 6 Eur., so the set for one pathogen will come up to 60Eur.
The definition of expensive is very stretchable: people pay tens of thousands of dollars when they go to Germany and still stay sick afterwards. Multiply the amount you pay for your supplements each month by the number of months that you have been sick. Is that expensive?
I don't buy supplements or herbs any more, because I don't test positive for it (even Core stopped testing positive this week- so I guess that KPU is fixed for me for now).
All my treatment (killing and detoxing) became homeopathic, but even that I don't ingest but mostly take trough photons. So you would only have to buy it once in your life and from financial perspective I find it very economizing.
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