littlebit27
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This is a great list. I might print it out so I can take it with me to my next appt with my LLMD since I seem to forget all my symptoms when asked what they are, lol.
Pocono Lyme
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Thanks for bumping this up.
Helpful for oldies too.
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My doc indicated I tested borderline for both. I suspect I have both and Bart being my most serious problem aside from Lyme. I have sweats, calf pain / twitching, GI issues / gastritis, anxiety.
It is all much better now. Was terrible in March / April.
I think I have a little babesiosis problem too, but not as bad as bart.
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Bumping this to the top since we seem to have alot of new members at this time.
To new members:
Babesia and Bartonella are two infections that are commonly seen in people with Lyme Disease. These infections are often referred to as "co-infections."
There are many other infections(i.e, "co-infections") that are seen with Lyme Disease as well.
To see more detailed lists of symptoms for Lyme Disease as well as co-infections, there is a thread on Lymenet that is kept permanently at the top of the Medical Forum, under a post called "Quick Links To Popular Topics":
Hope this helps.
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bcb1200
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I like these lists. It makes it seem like Bart is my main co-infection rather than BAbs. I have a lot on the Bart list.
Question...why isn't this list published elsewhere? It seems as if most docs want my feet to be sore or for me to have a bart rash before they agree it is bart.
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Actually, this specific list has been published by at least one Lyme Literate Medical Doctor. I don't have the book in front of me at the moment to give you page number references, but it is published in "The Lyme Disease Solution," book by Dr. S.
Dr. B also has included many of these symptoms on his co-infection symptoms lists in his Lyme Disease Treatment Guidelines.
Also, these symptoms are included in many other detailed symptom lists. See the Lymenet thread I posted above for examples.
And many medical articles on Bartonella contain many of the symptoms on the questionnaire.
I guess it's important for us to remember that we don't have to have all of the symptoms mentioned on a particular symptom check list. That is, we can still have Lyme Disease and/or Bartonella and/or Babesia and not experience all of the symptoms associated with those diseases.
As you inferred, the medical doctors need to keep this in mind as well!
There is a Bartonella Information Thread here on Lymenet that I'll bump to the top of the forum for you, in case it might help. It contains more details, including symptoms lists, links, articles, etc.
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Just bumping this to the top for any new people that might be interested.
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Carol in PA
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quote:Originally posted by FuzzySlippers: Hi Sharon,
um, I think that might have been a post I made on another forum that you read awhile ago about the back-of-the-neck rash seen in babesia.
When I was given this questionnaire by an LLMD, I posted it here and on other Lyme bulletin boards a year ago. You'll note the date this thread was originated is 1/2008.
Don't know if that answers your query about who posted the questionnaire, when, etc.
I had never heard many people mention the back of the neck rash much. I didn't even know I had it. My doc made note of it on his own during my physical exam. My LLMD's said they see it all the time in Babs. It turned out to be diagnostic for me, as well as many of the other Babs symptoms. I tested negative on two Babs tests but have responded in such way to Babs treatment that there is no doubt that I have it.
I guess I must have one of the many strains of Babs that the labs aren't able to test for.
I'm so glad that I mentioned the rash on that other post on that other forum and that it might have helped you. Golly, and I thought I was rambling on that thread and was even a little embarrassed at how verbose I thought I'd been. lol
Note: People wondering about the rash -- it can usually be seen at the back of the neck, just above the hairline. Sometimes one has to look underneath the hair to see it.
Fuzzy
Can anyone tell me more about the Babesia rash Fuzzy is talking about? Is it raised or flat? Might it look like a strawberry rash? (Hope not. If it does, don't tell me! No, go ahead.)
Thanks, Carol, for bumping this - fabulous info!
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