GiGi
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thanks for this info gigi, i've ordered the paper.
Mo, which paper? If you want to do the test, you do not need to ask for the test. Just let me know and I will tell you how. If you want the study of some 200 people, please note that they cannot publish all! for obvious reasons.
Let me know and I would be most happy to help. I think it would be a most important step.
Please let me know, Take care.
P.S. I have the study and can mail it to you.
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GiGi, can you take the drops while continuing with herbal lyme therapy? or should all herbs/supplements be stopped while on the AI drops?
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Heather, you probably could. But the AI drops are addressing such potent problems that may change your overall approach to Lyme. The body's defenses may take on a totally different form once the body is taught to recognize toxins and invaders for what they are. That is at the base of many problems. The body simply does not react normally any longer, and the longer this stays as is, the longer it takes to get it reprogrammed. They are actually searching for the electromagnetic patterns that are causing the errors and resetting the "switches" as if to get the train back on the right track.
The body is actually encouraged to take care of things again which it has not been able to do probably for a long time.
Take care.
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thanks GiGi! one more question: do you need to avoid the substances to which you test allergic while undergoing AI treatment?
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I asked the same question while doing the drops and was told it was not required but if something was significant then you may choose to stop it.
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We stopped the wheat once we learned my husband had a silent allergy toward it; that was a week before we got the drops in the mail. We stopped it for the two weeks. But since wheat, for instance, is in literally everything else (in every toothpaste, sunflower oil, dairy = cows eat grains, the frequencies are still hitting the body. We are dealing with substances at the DNA level. Frequencies.
It is recommended to eat good healthy foods, grain, proteins, including fruits and sugar. We eat everything - and mainly the food we grew up with and the food that is grown where we live. I do not pay attention to organic this and that - we are exposed to 60,000 manmade toxins every day. Our body is learning to deal with it. So basically avoidance when doing the drops is not recommended. If some food has always given you an obvious problem, I would stop it through the first round. All of our metal and food and fungal allergies were gone after the first 14 days. Balance is important while the body starts healing and thereafter. All of life is balance. That includes your thoughts and surrounding. It is very important to get the rest to achieve balance. The body is very busy making the corrections when doing the drops.
I was extremely tired during the first round and I had a very moderate showing of problems before we started the drops. Others including my husband had a lot more. I could have slept all day and night.
Take care.
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I checked with AI yesterday and was told that they wouldn't ask an asthma sufferer to stop meds when on the drops and that if you think you cannot do without certain meds, to go ahead and take them when on the drops.
My comment here and that is basically the message I get from them: If you give the body too much differing information, it's like listening to a radio that pulls in several stations all at the same time -- you eventually don't understand anything any longer. Same with two many different information deliveries to the body.
Take care.
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I am very intrested in trying this, Gigi the story you told about the womon with M.S. being almost cured by this treatment was so exciting to read. I also have M.S./Lyme and I'm certain I have many alergys for when I go on a ilimination diet I always feel better. But my question is, if I shell out the money for the initial testing and drops is that a one time charge or will I have simular cost every few monthes for new testing and more drops? I really dont think I can afford it if so. Thank's Terri
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Greentea, AI is testing every function of the body and that includes all allergic reactions to foods, chemicals, fungi/mold, inherited problems, structural problems - it is all part of the test and will continue until they can no longer find any irregularities any more. How long - you take several courses of the drops until your symptoms are resolved or they can no longer find any irregularities/allergies any more. Some people do it longer than others.
Kissis, I talked with them the today again because my husband looks more like MS and they told me they have had several MS patients, some in wheelchairs, all went through the program and got well. For this type of problem it takes a little longer - half a year or a year.
The charge for the therapy is the same for whatever time it takes. It always includes the first testing and all subsequent testing and all the drops that are prepared with every 2nd, 3rd, etc. testing. It is one price as stated in the website for the whole program from beginning to end. I don't think one can ask for more.
The only problem is that they cannot converse with you on the phone as they can with me because of the language. But I always get their ear, they listen, and I get their advice and encouragement. But where there is a will, there is a way. If you have an urgent question, I can help you out. Learn to use the google or other translaters to read their website. It is loaded with important information.
Take care.
P.S. I think they only thing they are asking extra for the next drops, etc. is that we pay them for the extra postage each time they send us a new bottle.
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GiGi,
How did you discover this company? Dr K recommend? I'm just curious the background of it. The idea is intriguing.
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A number of therapists who use the Bionic in their practice in Germany are using the Allergie-Immun Test/Therapy because it seems to eliminate a lot of problems many people experience. Read the website. Dr. W. is not familiar with it. Neither is Dr. K. until I brought it up. Look at the list of therapists on the AI website. That ought to tell you all. My first name is Curious and I do not have tunnel vision!
Take care.
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I would really like to try this but just dont have the mental capicity to get thru their site and the translation necessity is too much for my demented brain so I guess this is just another shot telling me a healthy live is not in my future so Im trying to make the most of each day that I have
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Sofy, why not ask someone to help you. There are a number of people here doing the therapy and I am sure somebody would help.
Good luck and take care.
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I never said you did have tunnel vision GiGi. Thanks for the information. I was just curious how this originated. My wife has a friend with a 4 yr old daughter with SEVERE allergies to most foods. I was thinking possibly this could be a life saver if it's legitimate.
quote:Originally posted by GiGi: A number of therapists who use the Bionic in their practice in Germany are using the Allergie-Immun Test/Therapy because it seems to eliminate a lot of problems many people experience. Read the website. Dr. W. is not familiar with it. Neither is Dr. K. until I brought it up. Look at the list of therapists on the AI website. That ought to tell you all. My first name is Curious and I do not have tunnel vision!
Take care.
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Why amalgams out first if you have problem with allergy to the metals? Would it be best to address allergy first?
I am thinking addressing allergies, phase one and two liver panel, methylation panel and then amalgams and chelation.
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We all are gluten intolerant here and I wonder about the animals eating grains and so on.
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Seekhelp, many doctors and practitioners seem to have tunnel vision and seem to be stuck in a groove. My statement had nothing to do with what you said or didn't say.
This test involves more than merely food allergies. It takes some effort to translate some of the info on the website, if the English part is not sufficient. Even some people with MS and asthma can get relief. The list of symptoms is long. If you click on "Checkliste" on their website, you get a better idea.
Take care.
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R62, there are many problems that will take care of themselves if you can get your body to start regulating again, i.e. functioning again at a level of a healthy person. This is the aim of the AI therapy. And it seems they are doing a good job at it.
Take care.
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I am optimistic about these drops as well. I am 1/2 way through round 2. They definitely pack a punch and seem to be doing some important remodeling work. We will see over time what they can do, but at this point, I am very excited about them. Thanks to GiGi for sharing them with me.
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Thanks for every one that answered my questions," Gigi" Well I have tried so many things over the years ,some with limited sucess, so they will have there work cut out with me! but from the stories that were told I'm so excited to try this .
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That could mean the body can release and potential chelate heavy metals & toxins (with or without help of binders)better and the immune system could function better to get the bugs.. could it also mean liver dysfunction could be resolved as in phase 1 or 2 missteps without testing and addressing, or "genetic" problems with liver detox? Would it be better if testing the liver detox functions to do so after the AI tesing.. could it change that paradigm? Thank you.
quote:Originally posted by GiGi: R62, there are many problems that will take care of themselves if you can get your body to start regulating again, i.e. functioning again at a level of a healthy person. This is the aim of the AI therapy. And it seems they are doing a good job at it.
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R62, yes - to all your questions.
If your regulation is stuck, i.e. your basic energetic regulation system is dysfunctional, nothing, anything you do with biochemistry, vitamins, supplements, foods, toxic environments, toxins inside the body does not work and you will be spinning your wheels until you address this particular system.
It alone is responsible for a functional or dysfunctional immune system. If that system is working as it should, none of us would ever have to go to Lymenet to look for answers. Our body would have taken care of all accumulation of toxins, invading microorganisms and we would be able to respond to the Lyme bacteria as millions of other people do when they are exposed -- with possibly some abx or none at all, as happens with millions of people every day, the system would handle the infection, dispose of the toxin through all available avenues, skin, mucosa, other excretory organs, etc.
We had genetic tests done - so if you know that things aren't right - but what do you do about it? None they recommend will do the job, unless the engine that drives it all starts to work again. All biochemicals it seems to me is money out the window if the body has forgotten what to do with it or, worse, causes further negative reactions/chain reactions.
Take care.
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OK. That make sense. Do you know if it is best to get amalgams out before AI or after? I have been told my all my docs that my body cannot take amalgam removal yet.. so makes sense to me AI first?? My babesia is acting up as well. I hope I can do AI and babesia herbs at same time or I have to wait for one or the other? The babesia is getting worse. I'm afraid to address it since I crashed badly on mepron/biaxin 5 month point when zith replaced biaxin and artimisinin was added. Thank you, GiGi
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R62, write to AI, as briefly as you can, and ask them. If they cannot answer in English, have them write in German and let me know. I will translate it. Take care.
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This answers questions regarding Allergie Immun that may not be answered on the Allergie Immun Germany thread.
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A gluten free diet looks to help CONSERVE lysine.
So does lowered serum potasium.
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I am so thrilled about this prospect. Up, for all others interested!
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It's amazing that gluten can cause problems for the brain for months after even one exposure. Some people don't even notice the G.I. problems but their brain can still suffer from gluten.
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The numbers may have changed - from my file notes:
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Marnie,
"A gluten free diet looks to help CONSERVE lysine.
So does lowered serum potasium."
The huge advantage of AI is that it is not necessary to avoid certain foods any longer. No more gluten-free subsistence. People are usually able to eat good foods after taking the AI therapy drops and live well with them, including wheat, corn, soy, dairy, sugar, etc. The corrections take place at the DNA level where incorrect information is replaced with correct info. The polarity is adjusted. Biochemicals are not involved at that level. Strictly information.
I learned that Wheat/gluten frequencies are everywhere, including toothpaste, sausage, wallpaper paste, dairy (cows eat grain). So for sensitive people it is not practical to avoid. And to top it off, most people with wheat/gluten/gliadin allergies are also allergic to corn, soy, etc. And worse yet, many of these also contain processing chemicals. So not only is the wheat derivative the troublemaker, but also the manmade chemicals used in processing.
Add in the metals, the molds and the fungi, and it gets even messier because the body is on toxic overload. Avoiding is not the solution. And some of these were passed on to us and we pass them on to our children. Many children today are born with wheat allergies plus a bunch of others.
That's why many are chronically ill as we grow up and older. AI as a therapy stands on its own and has nothing to do with any alternative methods, biochemistry, etc. Strictly information stored in the DNA.
Take care.
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Speaking of leaky gut, etc....
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