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You're welcome, Robin.
--- Sparkle, I think dr. W. has the garini too. I found a pharmacy with both garini and afzeli, but don't have them at home. I am using only the 10 potencies of borrelia burgdorferi from stauphen.
my daughter tested exactly as I said above, 2 borrelia nosodes, while others are her autonosodes with borrelia included.
I just put about a finger or two in the vial (about 30 drops if my memory is good?). I guess too little is not good, but too much is no deal (in my FEELING)!!!
I keep some of them to be reused after, at least, the lower potencies (I can repotencialize them after to higher dilutions if I need). Only to be used with the same person or inside the family though...
Once you potencialize in a glass vial, the glass vial will be imprinted 'forever'. You gotta use boiling water to get the homeopathic imprint out.
The problem is that glass can break it with boiling water. So the best of best is to throw the glass vial out and not reuse it. If you don't potencialize in the glass vial, I guess very hot water does the job. If you potencialize it in the glass vial, then you need the boiling water procedure, according to what I read.
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bejoy, thanks for the explanation... that's what I thought, these nosodes still cost loads of money.... I'm seeing them as investment though, slowly building up capital!
now I GOTCHA get out from my computer or I'll explode!
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Thanks for the info! I'm still waiting for the vials. The mail seems to be slower down here.
Rubbing alcohol might be good to use to clean the vials (?). Just a guess, though. I don't think glass is porous. We should be able to re-use it.
The caps may be plastic. I don't know how persnickety we have to be about all of this. I guess it has to do with one's temperament, as well.
In theory... if something is an energetic remedy, does it really matter how much you use? Seems a few drops would be enough...
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Side note:
I ordered the flu treatment kit from ergopathics on a whim with my last order.
I test as needing it this week (not today, already overloaded, but in two days.) One daughter also needs it. Other family members don't.
Little one and I are just kind of run down. We'll see if we can ward off the worst of the flu. Some people are getting it so badly, especially neighbors she plays with.
I already used the DesBio flu, but forgot I had this one!
The ergopathics has this year's flu vaccine, flu virus, global blood vial, and instructios for self treatment through holding the vials and Ellen Cutler's tapping method on several key points of the body.
Makes me think I can look at those key points and use with the light.
Also makes me think you could use lyme nosodes, and tap those points without the light, and get some results.
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I recently did a poll of 6 people who either wrote they were getting this gadget back on the "hysteria thread" several months back or had already got one. Three were from this board and three were elsewhere, on other boards treating Lyme.
Two from LN did not respond and they had claimed in that previous post that they were buying it. Interesting that they never even posted after that.
One person said it did not help them at all but she believes in the concept.
On the other groups etc. not one person said it did anything for them and they had given it at least a couple months. It was based on this information that I passed. I realize that 6 people are not a statistically acceptable data set to determine true efficacy, but when you get zero positive responses you have to wonder the validity of the people posting here.
I don't bother with this website anymore, well except to view old posts re legitimate treatment because there are just too many people who are marketers.
No, I am not saying the 2 people who have been promoting this product are marketers for Sota but you just don't know. They will come back after reading this and say they know several people who have benefited. How do we know this to be true?
Similar to those who hawk Dr. K in WA. One member has been 90% well for 2 years now and if you look at his website he's spending thousands. That is his business but when he and the other one come on and talk about how great this product is or this doctor is, one must ask the question why they are still in treatment?
If you're 90% two years ago and you're spending tens of thousands monthly, how can all those products you market be so good? And why is it that the practitioner alters his "treatment protocol" every single year to reflect what he is selling and is only available through him?
This is for the newly diagnosed, the people who post about these dubious treatments all work and live rather normal lives, save a few symptoms.
Editor, I did not personally attack anyone but this message will probably be yanked. If I was in the medical profession and didn't know much about Lyme, how much credibility would I give to an illness that is cured by magic wands, light, some clown who sees artifacts in the blood (Not Dr. F), the other guy who signed on as Dr. B? Don't get me going on detox.
Yes, I am fully aware that some alternatives are a valuable tool, but this is a serious illness, a possibly life threatening illness and your first line of treatment should be anti-infective agents.
Playing around with an overpriced gizmo and a magic wand is the last thing you should do, you're better off giving your money to Badoff.
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mynewname,
I have been well, to remission, back again to lyme on and off. When I'm off lyme (meaning really no lyme symptoms, no lyme treatment, no preventive treatment even), I can get my body invaded by other infectious pathogens to the point I sometimes can't live normally (like skin open with painful wounds, fevers etc).
Lyme goes in cycle. Lyme goes dormant. Lyme wakes up. And lyme disrupts your immune system that in the end, you'll have much more than TBIs to treat. No one treats lyme with the same regimen.
I can be 100% for a while in summer, in winter, I get back my other infections, and for some reason, I get a lyme relapse on and off. My treatment is totally different ALL THE TIME. What I spend monthly on treatment is also totally different.
I hope you find the magic treatment yourself and come here to post.
I'm the type of person that refused IV rocephin to my daughter, with swollen knee due to lyme because she didn't test ENERGETICALLY good for rocephin. Many family members went against my decision. She was supposed to be on IV rocephin to this day still, until the end of this week.
The fact is that after 5 days I pulled her off rocephin, she started sitting on her knee again and had no more any knee symptom. She's ice skating, going to dance course normally, and we're on bicycle lessons now. She's FULLY on alternatives, including autonosodes and PHOTONS!
It is exactly BECAUSE this disease is serious that we have all been looking for alternatives. In no way iv rocephin 3 weeks will be a warantee my daughter will heal from chronic lyme. Far from that. Specially because that was about all the hospital could offer.
Fortunately, not all medical doctors are of your opinion and many use energetic tests.
If you think you have a magic solution for chronic lyme sufferers, please post it here!
You sound exactly like the doctors from hospital trying to force me to continue on iv rocephin. Nosodes ARE anti-infective agents!! There are thousands of medical doctors who use homeopathic nosodes as anti-infective agents.
Many LLMDs from ILADS do sell supplements to patients too. There have been many discussions about that problem here in lymenet for years.
If you think photon therapies are not serious, why the heck the NASA has been researching on photon treatments?
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No one asked me my thoughts... & I'm the first person to mention about the LightWorks in regards to Lyme. I do not sell any products nor do I make any money from referrals regarding the LightWorks.
I got bashed from all sides & I continued to experiment. There is no "one size fits all" treatment for long term Lyme.
There are plenty of real scientific studies regarding infrared light & health issues. I just wish you would look them over first before going on about magic wands...
I don't feel like I have to defend it anymore. I don't care if anyone uses it or not. Some of us are interested in experimenting & posting our results so we can learn from each other.
If you don't want to use it, try something else. No biggie to me...
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This light treatment really is esoteric. The more I experiment with it, the more I realize there is to learn.
One of the most interesting things I have learned is that homeopathics and nosodes are powerful anti-infective agents, especially as used in a protocol with certain light frequencies.
This type of work is my passion, because I'm fascinated by it, and because it has helped to heal me and my family.
If you look at my posts, you'll notice that I also encourage and help people who are on antibiotics. I refer people to ILADS doctors, and have posted for friends trying to find them.
I prefer energy therapy, but I recognize it isn't for everybody.
I just want to see people get well, and I want to experiment here with progressive techniques with a great group of people who are in the same boat.
I've got to trust the newly diagnosed that if this therapy appeals to them, they'll read up. If not, they'll follow a good ILADS protocol.
As far as national or global health awareness is concerned, we have to start with recognizing that long term antibiotics do treat lyme, rather than ignoring the problem. Widespread use of energy medicine is way, way down the road.
Mynew, I found your query respectful, (although your references to the tools are derogatory) especially in the light of trying to get this disease respected by the IDSA, insurance companies, and the medical professional in general.
My friend, all lyme treatments are dubious, or this board wouldn't be here. Lets keep healthy conversations flowing, so we can continue to separate the wheat from the chaff.
And you're right, I'll yank the thread myself if it somehow turns into something other than the intended purpose of exploring a powerful treatment option.
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You are very diplomatic, bejoy! I wish I was as patient as you are.
Please don't remove this thread. It may be helpful to people now & many years from now.
I don't mean to sound like an authority on anything. I don't know much but the abx were making me worse.
I didn't invent the LightWorks - I just started comparing the different infrared devices & the LightWorks seemed to be the best for the least amount of money.
There are other devices available for people to use if they are interested.
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Please know that your posts are appreciated and if we are not open to new possibilites in treating lyme we will just stay stuck in this rut of "less than ideal" treatment that is now available.
I personally don't pay much attention to someone's opinion when they have no experience with the treatment they are dismissing and are just repeating ambiguous hearsay or putting their own spin on other people's words.
I am following the science on light therapy and even saw a science program on TV the other day that mentioned light as the medicine of the future. It reviewed a lot of medical therapy already using light.
So keep posting please and if anyone is purposely trying to hijack your thread the admins can remove it so you won't have to pull the thread.
After all this is a discussion of Lightworks as the title plainly states, not a platform for "dissing light therapy" in general as well as a bunch of other stuff having little or nothing to do with light but anyone is free to start their own thread if they want to do that.
Following the line of thinking that people discussing a product may be deviously marketing it is about the same as saying anyone promoting antibiotics is working for the drug companies.
JMHO
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I bought my PE machine after I read one of Sparkle's suggestions here in LN!! Just do a search here, I'm sure you'll find her old post suggesting these other devices!
She suggested me to take a look into Lumen or a Photonic Energetics. After I talked to both makers, I decided to go buy the PE1. If she's selling Sota, she should be fired!!
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Thanks Selma! I'm don't sell anything. My significant other sells textbooks but it has nothing to do with any health products.
It's just that the info is there to read about infrared light & there are lots of scientific studies about it. It's not woo-woo stuff.
You don't need to use any one device as opposed to the other but you want to get something that's going to be strong enough to get an effect.
The LightWorks is pretty good for $300.
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How did you figure out which frequencies to use????
Have you tried using the nonpulsed constant mode like Selma is doing with the PE-1?
Thank you.:-)
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quote:Originally posted by bejoy: Here's a summary of how I use lightworks with nosodes:
forhead A, B, F base of scull A, B, F throat - B thymus (below collar bones) - B above navel - B below navel - B inside wrists - C inside ankles - C Ears - C Bottoms of feet - C internal organs as needed - B lymph nodes as needed - C gates - inside crotch of thumb and forefinger, same with toes - F
I started out at a total of about 20 seconds, and now I usually do about a forty minutes at a time.
I use muscle testing to determine which settings and for how long at each position. You can use a biotensor for this.
Some people seem to get results without nosodes and some people don't.
I do use nosodes. You have to get good at muscle testing to be effective at this, I think, or else have a paractitioner to work with who can help you test for how often and how long to use the nosodes with the light.
I have used too many nosodes at a time and gotten completely flattened for several days afterwards. I wouldn't want to see that happen to anybody.
I have been using LYM from DB. This is a combination of several nosodes. If you are new to treating lyme, I'd certainly start with something else.
My preference would be to start with the Bartonella Series Remedy, then the Borrelia Series remedy, then move on to LYM - less pathogen information in the mix in that order.
I understand there is a website where you can buy Deseret Biologicals without a doctor's order. I still feel very strongly about using some form of good energetic testing to make your choices.
I am rather professional at testing, myself, but I still go to somebody else to help me check and double check my products and timing.
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Deseret Biologicals and the company in Gernamy that also sells homeopathics.. they are the same quality? Would ordering from Germany mean radiation in transit?
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Robin, I don't know how these kits from Nurse Andi are. If they come in hundreds of vials or if the whole of pesticides, for example, are in ONE vial, and then the heavy metals in another single vial etc...
So instead of hundreds of vials, you would have just a few. I don't know, you gotta ask her or someone here can pop up and say.
If in separate vials, and if really homeopathic (not other type of product, but really based on real substance), I would buy these as the price is EXCELLENT.
If altogether, I don't know. I start to have the feeling that the treatment with photons work better when little information is sent each time. My FEELING. I hope others pop up to give their opinions.
I don't know if things like ergopathics would work as well as real homeopathics work with photons.
As for Desbio, Bejoy has more experience. I think they are real homeopathics and there are quite a lot of people in LN that used nosodes from them with good results.
The nosodes here in Germany cost a lot. They come individualized. I paid almost the price of my PE1 to have bacterial nosodes, fungal nosodes and some others related to tick born infections (I guess in all, I spent about 550 euro, about 800 US dollars).
If someone knows about Nurse Andi sets, could you post here (if the vials are all unique or come together)?
thanks too, Selma
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I think any time anything is shipped by air it can be exposed to radiation... Do a google search of "air travel, radiation".
The post office used to ship by boat but it was discontinued about a year ago.
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Here is a link to nurse Andi's laser kit. Click on contents of vials to download entire list.
I'd love to have all of her kits. It does look like they come as individual vials, rather than say a "pesticide mix" or a "neurotransmitter mix."
I think her kits are brilliant, if you can afford this great little system. (I think it will help balance but isn't a lyme cure.) Not much in the way of bacterials, fungals, virals, polysaccharides, antibodies, etc, but fantastic for what it is.
I find I prefer to do nosodes individually, or just a very few at a time.
I have heard that you can safely mail energy medicine by covering it with aluminum foil. I don't know if this is true, but I'm going to find out.
I don't know if the DesBio nosodes are the same quality as the German ones, but they work well for me. I was told that many of them originated in Germany.
Robin, I have used the non-pulsed constant mode, and it works fine. I just find an added benefit in using Nogiers with the treatment. I chose them by dousing or muscle testing for them.
With so much practice, my dousing has gone auditory, so now I hear or feel the information in my mind rather than checking muscle response. I don't think I'll try to run that by the AMA for approval as a diagnostic criteria.
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I have all of the nosodes from nurse andi. are you thinking these can be used with light treatment?
i have all of the kits. i bought them awhile back with the laser, but have never used them. just never took the time out to figure this out.
the other nosodes that i have are the borellia ones from ergo.... and the borellia and bart from deseret.
i was wondering the deseret nosodes have an expiration date on them (for consumption), does this apply to using them with light treatment?
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Liberal mantra - We wholeheartedly believe in free speech; that is unless you have a differing view than us. Did I ever accuse anyone of selling anything? No, but that is what it becomes.
Here is my FIRSTHAND polling results when querying folks re Lyme and Lightworks:
4 people from LN who claimed to have purchased this from the hysterical thread; my bad, forgot one in previous post:
1 - Didn't work, but "believes in the concept."
1 - She has posted on LN about her lack of results.
3&4 - Never replied nor have they posted on this site for some time. Conclusions anyone?
5 "Lymeblogger" - hasn't helped > 1 month of use.
6 Lyme egroup - Used it every day in every location for up to two hours a day. No progess noted in three months.
7 Patient of my old LD who spent $300 that she didn't have: No results in one month, returned to Sota, less the 20% "restocking fee".
I'm sure there are others who purchased these things and are too embarrassed to post their lack of progress. There were a few others on the hysterical thread who were claiming to have bought one or were going to buy one.
Where are their positive stories? I have five confirmed non responders and two probable, just from taking half an hour of time! I continue to search for people who have had success with this and the only 3 happen to be on this list and cheer each other on like, well, hysteria.
My only point is to post the other side that doesn't get known here; the side that it just simply doesn't work. I won't betray the known people who responded but if you can go back to that thread, sorry can't find it now, contact everyone who said they had either bought one or were ordering one and see the results yourself.
Any first year Physics student could tell you just go out and lay in the Sun to get your NIR light, maybe even use a magnifying glass to focus on the meridian points.
But hey, if ya want to spend $300 for it, thank you for supporting Canada's GDP. Don't let science or reverse testimonials get in the way of your musings and don't point people to a study that was performed by.....wait for it.....the very organization who is selling the product itself!! Now THAT is applied science!!
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Thank you for the thoughts on Nurse Andi's nosodes.
I was thinking of using some that would be appropriate with the LW when I start using it. The package is very intriguing.
Anyone get their nosodes from germany and they come protected in some way?
Are the ones from desbio the correct sequenced dilutions? (hoping I have that correct)
Thank you.:-)
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Robin, when you say "correct" sequenced dilutions, there is no correct here. There are just a few people doing something experimental and posting their results, sometimes positive, and sometimes not so.
There is no exact protocol of an kind to follow. I post here what I do, and what I have figured out for me, that's all. Others are doing similar things, but nobody I am aware of is doing exactly the same thing with the same nosodes and same equipment.
You can talk to some of the people who have been to use the Bionic, if you want to know what dilutions they are using in Germany.
DesBio has ten dilutions from 5x to 200x. You can also get a 1M and a 10M dilution. I use what I have available locally.
Again, I'd go to Germany and get a course of treatment from an experienced professional with a history of good results if I could, but that's not an option for me right now.
Those with German nosodes have mostly had them hand carried back, I think.
Mynew, when you say "it doesn't work" I'm not clear what you are referring to. I'm guessing that you mean that use of Lightworks all by itself doesn't cure lyme. I expect you are probably right, although I wouldn't know, because I have not tried that protocol.
Maureen, of course you can do whatever you want in the privacy of your home, with vials and biophotons. Nurse Andi doesn't have nosodes in her kit. Nosodes have the energy signature of a specific pathogen.
I have used several items also contained in the laser kit with my lightworks. Just whatever you do, test well, go slowly, and err on the side of caution!
I'm clear that biophotons with nosodes gets healing results. I'm in a very interesting ongoing conversation with a few people who are using several different kinds of light machines, and different brands of nosodes, with good progress so far.
I believe that the LYM product from DesBio along with lightworks effectively kicked out my meningitis, and sent my lyme load low enough that I have no symptoms again.
I also believe that I overtaxed my immune system by accidently using too many nosodes at once, and ended up with a serious systemic non-lyme bacterial infection that has left me half blind in one eye. I'm still fighting it after three weeks, and hoping I'll get my eye back.
The more I work with this light/nosode system, the more I believe it has potential to work very well, and also the more I believe there is potential to do harm, especially in untrained hands.
I got rid of my chronic neck aches, headaches, and difficulty with word search, and later exchanged it for my sight. I'm no kindergartener in this arena, but still I made some serious mistakes in the process of my experimentation.
If anybody wants to try this, go for it. We're all adults here. But don't be thinking that you can't get hurt just because it is only a flashlight and a bottle of distilled water.
People study homeopathy their whole lives, and find they still have much to learn. This experimentation is in it's infancy.
So here are some protocol issues I have decided are judicious for me to pay attention to, when using light and nosodes together:
Test carefully before using any products, and consult with a professional whenever possible. (Yes, I do that.)
Test carefully for amount of time and locations before using the light. Err on the side of not enough rather than too much. Get a professional to help you test, when possible. (Yes, I do this too.)
Give it a 15 to 20 minute rest after using lightworks, before touching nosodes or any other energy medicine products, or eating or drinking.
Use only one nosode at a time, unless I carefully test that I can handle more than one. Be extremely careful of autonosodes, as they carry so much information, and possibly a multitude of pathogenic nosodes.
Don't work on other people with light and nosodes, unless I carefully test that my system can handle it. Test if I need a full light treatment myself if I expose myself to someone else's treatment.
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Mynew, I have tried a photonic fabric (patents ad research from japan)(vivitex, you probably get more hits searching for vivirex as the item I bought originally comes from italy but the fiber comes from japan) after reading a few positive postings on a ME forum, (several people went from bed-ridden to almost normal activity) and the knife in my head is much much better, so is the accompanying brain fog. It came partially back around christmas, and I checked my cell phone, the mobile harmonizer sticker had moved out of its place. I put it back to where is should be (it should be below the battery f the cell phone) (it is not my own phone, but hubby's so I did not want to stick it there permanently)
Dr. Woitzel has also noticed that treatment results with the Bionic 880 are not so good if patients live in the hotels in town and are exposed to lots of wireless radiation. The results are good with those who live at the other place during treatment.
Also Ipods are supposed to have some kind of radiation that causes this kind of treatment to not work so well. On another forum I posted something about feeling worse from cell phone and pd radiation, and there were many replies from people in the U.S. saying they had to spend less time on the computer because of ill effects. I feel ill effects from a cell phone within two minutes, and have so for a few years. Shorter exposures seem to be okay. I also use a pc harmonizer I bought from my wholistic practitioner.
Just my personal experience with biophotons and radiation and my brain fog/knife in head issue.
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MyNew, you never PMed me and I posted on here that I bought one. However--I haven't tried it yet! And don't chalk that up to lack of interest. I have to go slow with everything I do and am slowly building up a medicine cabinet of herbs, homeopathy, flower essences. I want to purchase nosodes and haven't figured out what to get yet. I had some setbacks in my home and with my hyperbaric chamber which have been hugely time consuming and distracting and HUGELY expensive so I have to lay off buying anything for a while now, but I plan to try it. I want to start with Lightworks and my Chee Energy device which both do Nogier, because I'm very sensitive.
I might move on to something stronger if I feel I can handle the previous two.
Bejoy thank you so much for your caution. I hope your eye gets better.
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The people who went to Germany can correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think you hand carry the nosodes onto the plane. As they are liquid, I do not believe it is allowed. I think you have to put them in your checked luggage.
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I bought most of my nosodes from Meripharm in gErmany and they packed them with double aluminium foil. I didn't ask them to do so.
The nosodes crossed the border in switzerland, i don't know if they are X-rayed or not.
Sorry to hear about your eyes, Bejoy. I wouldn't wait to do an autonosode with tears.
i would do a D2, D4, D6, D8, D10, D12, D15, D20 and D30 at first and test them, as infection is acute and apply light (not on the eyes, but beside it, trying to reach the eye nerve, not the eyeballs). And also apply it on the accupressure points Dr. W. recommends.
I would then prepare a D60 and let it sit a bit, waiting to see if it tests. If the infection is so strong, it will need some other kind of remedy, in my opinion. The photon treatment for us, so far, in our short experience with it, is working with chronic infections (lyme for both me and daughter) and with an infection that just started (strep to my daughter).
I tried to treat one acute infection on myself with autonosodes, but the photon treatment was not enough to releave symptoms fast, like it happens with borrelia, for example. I needed topical creams. When the infection was very acute (you can PM or email me for details), I needed a session a day with the PE1 following dr. W's accup. points. But as I said, it was not enough for fast symptom relief.
I wouldn't be afraid of autonosodes IF THEY ARE MADE FROM TEARS, not from blood. You won't be treating all your pathogens, Bejoy. I don't think so, but you'll be treating the pathogens from your eyes. If your problem is infection...
Good luck!
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Myname, you said: "No, I am not saying the 2 people who have been promoting this product are marketers for Sota but you just don't know. They will come back after reading this and say they know several people who have benefited. How do we know this to be true?"
Sorry if I misunderstood what you said up, I thought you implied that they were Sota sellers as you said "you just don't know".
Anyway, you are right: this treatment is new and no one knows what are the outcomes.
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Brussels, thank you so much for the instructions on nosodes from tears. I am so grateful. I have been waiting to do this until I get my potentiser. If it works well, it will save me hours. I am very eager to try it!
I did make a weak nosode from tears. But it was only effective for a few days until I need something stronger.
I'm not worried for myself about using autonosodes, because I am already quite well.
What I meant was that I would strongly caution somebody who is very sick from lyme against doing something like a blood nosode as beginning treatment. Still, it might work for somebody if done well and tested for carefully.
When I squint, I can see the floaters in my eye, as if magnified. Masses of strings of spaghetti and meatballs. It looks to me like pictures I've seen of lyme spirochetes, granuoles, and cysts, but it doesn't test that way. Could be anything. Glad I have two eyes.
Thanks for your support everybody.
-------------------- bejoy!
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sparkle7
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I think we can just ignore "mynewname". It pretty obvious they want to try to disrupt things here.
It's OK if they want to use some other treatment. Their comments won't stop me from trying this approach using infrared light... It's just kind of ignorant or childish stuff.
I'd hate to find out the real reason for the snide remarks which I would consider - DISINFORMATION...
I have alot to share about my new experience with the remedy & the LightWorks but I have to go out now.
Amazing idea about the tears! I think there are really 2 distinct usages for the infrared light.
1. to absorb homeopathic treatments (which I call energetic) 2. to treat physical ailments like sore muscles, wounds, get lymph moving, treating hormonal imbalances, reducing pain, headaches, etc. (which I call physical)
You may want to try using the infrared light alone without any homeopathic remedies to treat your eye, bejoy...?
There was a study that used infrared light to cure blindness in rats commissioned by DARPA (I believe). It was a great success!
Check it out if you don't believe me (for "mynewname")...
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Brussels
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Northenlights,
if I understood well, you got your pain in the head better after using a photon fabric?
Does it look like fabrics to make clothes and you have to use on problematic points?
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Thanks for bringing this back up. I am using a gifted Lightworks from a friend. Will do Nosodes down the line.
I am quite impressed with it alone as it really helped intense knee pain yesterday.Its amazing to me.
Its helped with other pains also and is soooo relaxing. So grateful for the gift.
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