Topic: Blown way...found a chemical that instantly killed and decouglated
glm1111
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James said
(1)it is liquid..
(2).it is a food additive...
(3) it is hard to find
(4) It has antibacterial activity
The guesses have to fit these critera
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Seek.....What else is new?
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sutherngrl
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We are all so silly. First of all it takes years and years to get a patent.
Since this is just a web site, we don't even know if James is for sure a Lymie. How do we know James if you are someone just having a million laughs at our expense?
I don't say this to be mean. In case you really are a Lyme sufferer, then I am sorry; but just reading how everyone is practically begging for the "secret" ingredient that will cure us all; the ingredient that even the scientist that have researched LD for 30 years have not yet discovered....well it makes one wonder what you are really up to.
I do hope you are serious and not just having a good time with people that are so ill and so desperate. If you are ill with Lyme Disease, then I apologize and wish you the best of luck.
It is just very hard to grasp that Lyme researchers who are physicians and pathologist are so much further behind on this than you.
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are you really going to wait until you have a patent to share it with us?? that doesn't seem fair to the rest of the lyme community..
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James- I also hope that you've stumbled onto something "miraculous"- God knows so many of us need relief from our suffering!!
No matter what it is, you wouldn't know if you "own" this until a patent examiner says so, which is 2 years or more from now. Do you really want to "protect" and therefore hide this until then, knowing how much it is needed right now??
My advice is to submit a "provisional" patent, which can be a simple one-page summary of your idea. Submit this to the USPTO for $100 fee and you will be "patent pending" for one year. Your idea will then be protected and you can share it with others. In parallel, you can pursue help from an attorney to write a "non-provisional" patent which, IF APPROVED, can net you a 20-year ownership of the idea.
Go to the USPTO website and you can find instructions in writing and submitting a provisional patent.
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It's not MSG because that's not hard to find. Heck if it were..go buy a can of soup *eye roll* lol
James, you're so awesome. Now freaking tell us! lol
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It's not MSG because that's not hard to find. Heck if it were..go buy a can of soup *eye roll* lol
James, you're so awesome. Now freaking tell us! lol
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My guess is EDTA...it is found in processed food, it is non-toxic (similar to vinegar), it is a biofilm buster, you can get in in liquid form, it heats up (when you add the powder to water), it binds magnesium (so magnesium would interfere).
Oh...come on...tell us already!!! We will be forever in your debt .
Do I get a prize if I am right???
Jen
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Oh yea...one more thing...EDTA is an anticoagulant .
Jen
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James, I hope you are truly on to something. Just hope it comes out in time for all of us.
But I want to caution you because if this is truly a cure, you must protect yourself, and I am not speaking patent issues.
I would think there are many out there that are leaches on the patients thru money collected thru grant research and attempts at vaccines that would NOT want this to happen. SOOOOOOO be careful. Look at things they have done to websites.lmt
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ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid
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That's what I said...with less letters...EDTA.
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quote:He hopes this naturally occurring molecule, cis-2-decenoic acid or CDA, which is approved by the Food and Drug Administration as a food additive, could be used to fight infection.
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Assuming it is EDTA is it really that great?
I think I remember somebody talking about having EDTA IV's.
While it might have helped I'm pretty sure that person is far from being cured.
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quote:Originally posted by hoot: My guess is EDTA...it is found in processed food, it is non-toxic (similar to vinegar), it is a biofilm buster, you can get in in liquid form, it heats up (when you add the powder to water), it binds magnesium (so magnesium would interfere).
Oh...come on...tell us already!!! We will be forever in your debt .
Do I get a prize if I am right???
Jen
EDTA is used to break cellular adhesions in the lab. Take cells off of culture dishes. It would be very bad for the body in high enough doses, although serum proteins seem to stop it's action so I doubt it'd do much in the body.
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quote:Originally posted by jamescase20: I would drink it but clearly it absorbs though the skin....no, its not even close to poison...its an additive...you have eaten this....and in fact...most likely you like it.
Does EDTA taste good? I still think he's talking about Glycerol Monolaurate which is related to coconut oil.
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James, you sound like my brother....and I love him to death, but he drives me nuts. Posts: 2214 | From West Chester, PA | Registered: Aug 2003
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just don
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James, here is an offer you havent seen yet. IF this is a food additive and as harmless as you say,,,
send me some in a plain bottle with no label on it,tell me how to use it,,and I will be your remote test monkey!!
I will inform you IF I had same reaction as yours,no reaction, or whatever is the plain unvarnished truth!!
That way I CANT find out your secret stuff till its patented or protected for you.
I really do feel that the REAL DEAL breakthru is going to come from do it your self PEOPLE such as YOU!!!
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glm1111
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Well really folks....what has killed off this stuff for me is SEA SALT....salt/c protocol to be exact....Salt is a natural broad spectrum bacteriocide. I am not pushing this on anyone, but it works and I have/had severe neurolyme.
The people that discovered this gave it freely to everyone without expecting any monetary gain.
James,
I think whatever it is you found, it would have to be taken with persistence and over a period of time.
I don't believe for a sceond that you can take or apply anything a few times and kill of all these infections. This is a complex disease.
The worms alone lay over 200,000 eggs a day. The other thing I want to say is that I understand why you want to make money on this, but keep in mind that there are people suffering tremendously every day.
Gael
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about the pituitary adenoma, this might not mean a lot, since they find those in 25% of corpses they happen to autopsy after traffic accidents. nodules on teh pituitary stalk are quite common and need not mean anything. Forgot where I read that.
About simple chemicals: dca is such a thing, and the FDA banned it....one must buy it online. http://www.thedcasite.com/index.html read around there for the story. There is at least one whole page about the patents that have been filed for the use, not the molecule.
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lymestop
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I believe what he found and is using is # 10 Capric acid Decanoic acid CH3(CH2)8COOH
(right above Lauric acid)
Straight-Chained, Saturated Carboxylic Acids Carbon atoms Common name IUPAC name Chemical formula Common location or use
Capric acid (decanoic acid) added to ice cream, candy, baked goods, chewing gum, liquor and often not specified on ingredients lists.
Capric acid (N-decanoic Acid) - Vegetable or animal. Ice cream, baked goods, sweets, beverages and artificial flavorings. An element in some fats used to make synthetic flavoring. red lollipops and food coloring
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seekhelp
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Everyone keeps posting endlessly, BUT has anyone noticed JamesCase20 hasn't posted a thing since last night? I hope he's OK!! Let's not lose sight of that too, OK?
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Jill E.
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If it's EDTA, some Lyme docs are already using it to bust biofilms.
I pray it's chocolate, although I'd be cured by now if it were.
Keep going James, I love reading your posts!
Jill
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glm1111
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Lymestop,
Are you talking about the caprylic acid found in cococut oil? I used to take caprylic acid capsules. Or is it something else?
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IMO the most interesting part is in another message string James is advocating socialized medicine, while in this one is withholding (for his patent) something potentially important to all.
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I guess I am one of the few who thinks this is really cruel. To tell a bunch of sick people that you have found something that could help them, but won't.
To me this is as bad as letting millions live with lyme because someone wants to patent a Lyme vaccination and/or doctors who take our money and tell us that we have chronic fatigue......at least in my book.
Sorry, I did look at James posts and laugh often, but no more.
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Remember guys and gals, James is someone who has written that he believes that a common veterinary pesticide, Frontline, is in food, so you never know what he might come up with!
James, I read in a different thread of yours that you used 2.4 IM bicillin within the last two days, along with augmentin. Isn't that a shame, that because of all these abx you have also taken around the same time before your new experiment, we will never know if it is the bicillin working, or your new "food additive" ?!
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Its cis-2-decenoic acid or CDA.
And unfortunately James, researchers have already been working on its ability to disperse biofilms, which helps the abx work better.
I believe that there is an article in this months Journal of Bacteriology. I will look up and see if I can't post the information.
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Amanda
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thanks Lymestop. Thats what I get for just skipping to the end without reading previous posts
I will post the washing post article as a seperate topic for people.
notice the last sentences folks, which reads...
But dispersing biofilms without understanding all the ramifications could be a "double-edged sword," Romeo warned, because some bacteria in a biofilm could wreak worse havoc once they disperse.
"Simply inducing biofilm dispersion without understanding exactly how it will impact the bacterium and host could be very dangerous, as it might lead to spread of a more damaging acute infection," he said
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Vermont_lymie, James is right. Active pesticides in Frontline (Fipronil) are used in agriculture. Only they are supposed to have broken down or exited the food by the time of human consumption.
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quote:Originally posted by lymeric: Vermont_lymie, James is right. Active pesticides in Frontline (Fipronil) are used in agriculture. Only they are supposed to have broken down or exited the food by the time of human consumption.
Hi lymeric:
It is actually used on few crops in a limited area of the US. I posted on this a while back, when James first started using Frontline; I remember mushrooms in one state was one of the uses, but I do not have the list handy that was posted those months ago.
Fipronil is highly toxic to fish, aquatic invertebrates, and bees, and considered a possible carcinogen and potential ground water contaminant. So it is not widely used in food crops, rather it is highly limited. You are right, there are still some few remaining uses, but the data does not support James' claim that it is widely used and found in food.
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Thanks for the pituitary adenoma percentage comment. I also read something similar since my last post. I'm feeling a little better about that now.
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quote:Originally posted by sutherngrl: Oh, I hope its ice cream!
Hahaha! I hope we all have to smear ourselves with fine dark chocolate for the cure!
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James, do you get a thrill out of anticipting thrilling Lyme victims w/ hoo-hah like that? Do you really THINK that anyone of 'right mind' (& I admit some here are not 'right', often thru no fault of their own) will give that baloney any real Creedence?? Just as 1 example, you wrote, "If I can get patent protection and have a patent pending...then I can report the finding." WELL, if you Have patent Protection, why would you need a "patent pending"?? And since when would a patent ever keep others in other parts of the world from grabbing your idea & Saving the World? Do you have hundreds of thousands of $ to go after patent infringers? I Mean.... GIMME a BREAK! LOL
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Vermont_lymie, I wasn't restricting my view to the US. First of all, we're on the same page here... That being said, this link might interest you. Looks like Fipronil use on crops is alive, well, and expanding. This is just for China alone. I think I'm gonna bring my own rice next time at chinese food!
another day. Anyone know what's up?
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quote:Originally posted by seekhelp:
Everyone keeps posting endlessly, BUT has anyone noticed JamesCase20 hasn't posted a thing since last night? I hope he's OK!! Let's not lose sight of that too, OK?
i noticed also that james has DISABLED HIS PRIVATE MESSAGES; has it been like that very long or just after starting this thread post?
yes, i do hope james is ok! please sign in just saying you are ok, and you can keep the rest of your comments for yourself.
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James says that he was banned from LymeNet.
He wants everyone to know that he is all right.
Carol
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Yes, Amanda- Please Post that biofilm article.
Been fascinated with that ever since seeing U.O.S.
My LLN.D. suggested the protein-dissolving herbs
like bromelain on an empty stomach. -M
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Banned? Well, I must admit posting a cure and dangling it like a carrot for cash is really a cruel thing to do to ill individuals. If he didn't post and worked on it on the side, different issue (albeit still tough to let so many suffer if the product is cheap and non-harmful). I have no doubt James paid attention to other researchers such as Marnie looking for answers.
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The most interesting thing to me in this thread is that James has barely started working with his new found treatment. To many times have I started feeling better at first on a treament.
It will be more interesting to see what he has to say after a month or so.
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can the admin lift the ban? maybe james will decide against the patent and share with us his secret substance.
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James - Why don't you skip the patent attorney, and instead take your findings to researchers and doctors. Call up a university, call up some LLMDs. I'm sure you'll find some biochemists, physicians or others who will be willing to give your idea a fair test.Hell, there are people like myself and Marnie who fit into one of the above categories here.
Before you can even think of patenting anything, it has to be independently verified to work, the methodology of action needs to be understood etc... it may not even BE patentable if you just found a new use for an existing chemical. On top of that, do you really want to try and patent something that could help so many people? Isn't that just like the pharmaceutical companies, that so many of this forum struggle to afford?
If you've made a breakthrough, that's great. Get it to scientists to corroborate your data, and you could be on your way to being a hero.
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Banning him was a bit harsh. I thought it was getting quite interesting there for a while.
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For those who would like to study the nature of the spirochete, so as to better understand the task before us, DVDs of past ILADS seminar are available here:
These are just a few places to find some of the science about lyme and other tick-borne diseases.
To study the science of it - and the physiology of the human body as well as how that is altered with lyme - leads to a much better understanding of the complex nature of working with/against/around these stealth infections.
Many fine researchers have spent their careers in this very study. We can learn much by reading their work and listening to their presentations.
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- first, are you sure he's been banned? maybe he continued despite prior warnings?
- second - does anyone here on LN not think that posting your "experiments" might put LN at risk?
- with so much publicity over recent suicides on Facebook with people egging that poor person on (and those who were aghast as well) I can't imagine where that would leave LN
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I spoke with Jim last night. He is not evil or trying to dangle a carrot, he is very excited about his findings and just can't contain himself.
He just wants to retain the credit for his hard work, I mean who wouldn't?
He is over the edge excited about this, and he wouldn't tell me what it is but he did give me some hints. It is in a common food and none of your guesses about food dyes, etc are it.
He is very upset that he seeems to have been banned from Lymenet, but he goes on Lyme Chat almost every night.
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Tracy, where is Lyme Chat? Will someone let me know or keep us posted about James? Can you just keep us updated here? THANKS!
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