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Hello. Once you get doing the enemas you will feel the benefit and it sounds weird but you will even enjoy them. : ) !! Ha But really. IT is worth doing it. and just follow the directions. You can start out using just warm water and see how you do and then try other things.
This is great and Thank you all for adding to the thread. Yeah we all know we can search and dig for this info but it is great to gather it all into one place and be able to read through it back and forth and get it into one spot. So thank you all and keep it up.
ALso for those who keep posting saying they appreciate even being acknowledged and feeling like they were the odd ones out and things were not working that are working for others.. Your not alone and though there is a way out of it. IT might not feel like it but when you find the right combination and concentrate on finding that way to cleanse and detox and also support your immune system and organs etc.. You will know it and things will start flowing. Its like a light bulb going on. It is hard work no doubt.
I takes commitment and persistence and consistency. I found that when I was so very ill I wanted to just lay there and not move and I skipped the things I should do. I started to MAKE Myself get in that tub. I said to myself if I can lay in bed I can Lay in the tub. Even though that felt like a ton of work in itself I talked myself into it and did it at least two times a dsy. I measured out the water I needed to take in and I have 3 quart size bottles I fill up in the Am and those HAVE TO be gone by the next am. I always use water to take my meds and well that takes up half the water!!
If You take one goal at a time and write it down and then once you are in a rhythm ad another things. Do not try to do too many at once or you will not follow through. There s some psychology that plays into this and that mind set sometimes we have that says if I can not do it all the way or all of it then I just will not do it at all. Sometimes that can be what happens and we give up.
Like when we try a diet we say I will start tomorrow because today I did not do it so I just will not even try today. Do not let that stop you from doing what you can each day. It will add up faster than you think and do much more good than you think.
I am now working in taking walks and my rebounder tramp. I want to take one every day for at least 10 minutes and 5 of the rebounder. And right now I am only doing it about 2x a week. If I am trying I do not get down on myself. Some are old habits coming back where I say I just do not "feel" good. I am so lucky to not be laying in bed like I used to and crawl to the tub crying so I should remind myself of those things too.
Anyway that is my little pep talk and reminder of the games our mind play and as well as being ok with the small steps we can take and taking them! For me this is the order and how I built up to my current protocol.
From HERE DOWN is WHERE I AM AND HOW I Got There!
My Protocol in order and it took me about 6 months to really get serious and work up to this in this order one by one or sometimes two. It looks like a lot but I did it one step at a time and did not add anything until I felt ready to.
Diet - Did a full elimination diet where I ate nothing that came up on my allergy testing and ate nothing white or processed at all. I restested and even more indepth 3 months later and showed NO Allergies at all to foods. I have kept that diet up about 75 percent and have added some things back in that are veggies and fruits etc. Still no whites and no dairy and no grains besides brown rice. Whole real live foods from the ground. If I buy it and I can not see where it came from the earth I do not get it. So nothing processed. This was a huge big step in cleansing when I thought it was about my allergies.
Baths 30 min- Daily 1 to 2 times
Water - 1 oz per 1/2 body weight in lbs
Lemon Water and lemon oil drinks 1 whole lemon each - 1 to 2 times a day
Coffee 1 cupe - 1 x a day organic and with something like Miralax. I had to do this daily to keep my bowels moving. I have balsy of the gut and it was very important and still is to keep things Moving. For me fiber did not do it and no stimulants work because of how slow it is and I would cramp up up above or at my stomach. SO this is the combo that worked for me. Find what works for you if you have this issue and as gently as possible. It is very important to detox as if you do not the things in your gut will and can absorb back into your system again..
Body Scrubs 5 min- Before each bath
Bentonite Clay 2 tbls worked up to - 2x a day pulsing about 1 week a month now
Enemas - Rotate coffee with gentle salt water - 2x a week and I do not think more that that is good for me
Welchol/Cholestrymine - 1 to 2 times a day away from all other supplements pulsing at another week away from clay week. 6 tablets of Welchol or 1 scoop of Cholestrymine. I have both so want to use them up. Not planning on getting another after these are done though and feel I can do without these two if I use clay as time goes on.
Rife - Detox frequencies at the least 3x a week working up to every other day.
Ionic Foot Baths 30 to 45 min - 1x to 2x a week. Working on going up to every other day and plan on that for 3 months before reducing back again. Buying my own bath and got it in yesterday
Walks 10min - 2x a week working up to daily
Rebounder Tramp 5 min - 1 x a week and working my way up and trying to do this along with walks since I am in that mode.
Thats it for me right now.
I do add in B complex vitamins and such after reading about the blockages that some have and what they are taking for it but have not been tested or read up enough about it to be able to talk about it. Thanks for all the info here though.
I want to add in some of the things on Dr K's document that are things like cilantro and chorella and those sorts of things (maybe) I am doing pretty good now and do not want to add too much.. Also gut cleanses and doing parasite cleansing as I do those only maybe 2 x a year actually. I use herbals supplements and a good few weeks of Salt C too. I am sure I am forgetting something and though now that I typed that it seems like a lot. I am proud of myself now that I look back and see myself so stuck and see what I have been doing now and those are all on my own. Many are doctors orders or recommendations during my last years IV and current IV treatments I also do that have also helped me Very Very Much. That is what I mentioned before that I got professional help. THe clinics I have been going to have added in modalities that I could not and did not have at home. Those really helped me get out of the stuck stage. IT was painful and horrible at the time. Esp the things like lymph drainage using things like laser treatments were very strong and got my lymphs to let go and move. I hated them at the time.
After a few months I could do them and feel better instead of worse!! That is where you want to be!
That is the indicator that you have MADE it across the line and to the other side and out of Stuck Mode!! It can be done.! It takes something and different for everyone so I am not saying do what I did or am doing. It i just to give you ideas and see how I progressed to it and maybe that idea will help you get there too. I really want to emphasis that because there is nothing that works across the board for everyone and you have to find those things for yourself with trial and error. I will say though that most all that I tried I kept on board in some way but found the right dosing and frequency and some more than others or even some just a oouple times a year.
In the following months to come I may change it down to reduce some and increase others. I hope to increase exercise and may reduce some of the others as I do so. Its all just feeling it out as you go. I am just pretty excited to be feeling so much clearer and like my body is working. I am not cured or done with lyme disease but when I treat for it I feel like my body is able to handle that treatment. For me that is huge in itself and why I started this conversation.
I am here to cheer you all on and support you in any way I can.! Blessings and I care about all of you!!
Sorry this got so long!
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sparkle, thanks for the link. Looks real helpful.
I agree with you about all this stuff being so complicated. People talking about "pathways" or to quote Terry K, " as far as the methylation cycle and TMG, I think it is used to bring down homocysteine levels which can be impacted by MTHFR C677T"
What does that mean? I'd need to call Marnie here to interpret this--no wait a minute, she'd make it even more difficult to understand.
Too many people here speak in tongues. I'm not blaming them. That's why I keep coming here so I can keep learning and figuring out how to beat this disease
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- When someone posts terms that need more definition, often, by just searching that term at Google, you can find more detail when they are not around to answer. It would be impossible to provide all the detail here.
However, a Google search for MTHFR C677T - brings up many links.
TMG is trimethylglycine. -
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For you folks who eat 1-2 lemons or their juice per day:
How do you avoid tooth enamal erosion? Whenever I have any lemon juice, even in a glass of water, I can feel the juice go right to the rough spots on my teeth where there is little enamal.
Is this just my problem?
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For you folks who eat 1-2 lemons or their juice per day:
How do you avoid tooth enamal erosion? Whenever I have any lemon juice, even in a glass of water, I can feel the juice go right to the rough spots on my teeth where there is little enamal.
Is this just my problem?
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I brush my teeth right afterward.. 100 percent for sure and I forgot to mention that..
Make sure you do not drink it before bed and forget to brush those teeth..
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I just bought a whole body cleanse (internal cleansing system by Enzymatic) last night. I'm not sure how to go about starting this.
I'm taking a lot of supplements and ABX right now, and don't want to lower the efficacy of my treatment. How should I go about starting this cleansing?
Kit includes:
Week 1: Laxative Formula - 3 tablets at night Super Milk Thistle - 1 UltraCap at night Fiber Fusion - 4 UltraCaps in the morning and 4 at night
Week 2: Laxative Formula - 2 tablets at night Super Milk Thistle - 1 UltraCap in the morning and 2 at night Fiber Fusion - 4 UltraCaps in the morning and 4 at night
Well, now that I look at it the instructions are pretty clear. Do I need to be worried about any treatment disruption...I guess that's what I'm looking for.
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Thanks Keebler for answering. I had to go out yesterday and wasn't around much the rest of the day.
gwb - sorry if I posted terms that were not defined. MTHFR C667T is part of the methylation testing that is done by Dr. Yasko and other doctors. More explanation follows:
Here is the definition of MTHFR which I found by doing a search on google.
"Methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase (MTHFR) is an enzyme that in humans is encoded by the MTHFR gene."
I found this file which explains a lot of what Dr. Yasko methylation testing covers. http://tinyurl.com/376hvn
Here is the explanation for MTHFR C667T "MTHFr C667T helps to convert homocysteine to methionine in the methylation pathway. This enzyme pathway has global effects for immune function, muscle metabolism, neurochemical production and regulation, and detoxification."
Here is a chapter from Dr. Yasko's book "Genetic Bypass" (she has a newer book out now though) http://tinyurl.com/ylzzuu5
gwb - What does "pathway" mean?
In general terms it means a path to get from one place to another. In medical terms it usually means looking at one specific thing (like an MTHFR enzyme) and following all of it's processes from start to finish such that you know what it is doing, what it affects and what the end result of it's actions are). You would consider all the things that are affected along the way to be in the pathway. I'm afraid I've explained it rather clumisly but I hope it helps.
One doesn't need to understand the nitty gritty of the methylation cycle in order to see if the treatment might help. Many people who don't want or can't get the genetic testing try the simplified protocol. It has been posted here at lymenet in a link provided in a previous post above but it is also listed in the files section of the yasko yahoo group. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/CFS_Yasko/messages
Yes, some of the information is complicated. It is the nature of the information. I'm not trying to provide a full education on the various protocols/issues - others have already done that via books, articles, videos, discussion groups etc.. My hope is to point out areas that one can look at further in order to help themselves.
Those who want to understand must take one area at a time and go slowly and have patience. You won't understand it from one post on lymenet. Those who don't want/need to fully understand can try the various protocols that have been developed and see if they help. If you have an LLMD or other doctor who is helping you, run it by them and see what they think.
Just a comment - Marnie gets blasted on a regular basis for trying to put her thoughts out to this group because not everyone can understand her posts. I just scroll by some of her posts because it would be very time consuming to look everything up to try to understand them all. Some of her posts have helped me put some things together which I have been able to use to help myself and others. I try to graciously accept what is offered and I ask questions when needed.
I have learned over the years that I must take responsibility for my own recovery which means spending the time and energy to research and try to understand things that might help.
Spring - yes, it's nice to have it all in one thread. We have many threads in the archives that attempt to put the information about one subject together for convenience. Some of those threads are listed in the newbie links and some are not. If no one searches for that information, the wheel will continue to be re-invented. There are lots of valuable posts in the archives that will not be duplicated in this thread because some of the posters are no longer here and others have posted it before many times and don't want to spend their time and energy posting it again.
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- "Too many people here speak in tongues" ?
If there is a new word or term, and if the poster just has not been able to detail that fully - that is what Google is for - look it up.
To post takes enormous energy and when there is something to look up in a post, that is the least one can do after being given so much great information - all for free.
A lot of answers are posted but don't skip over the maps, too. Take it a step further if you want to know more.
Or just skip over it. Come back later when you have more energy. Those who post here are tired, too. Their hands hurt, too. Sometimes, they can post only a key but you might have to open the door.
Work with them rather than criticize for it not all being spelled out in every little detail.
Google and PubMed are at your fingertips, too. And, where articles are suggested that more fully explain, there's a reason. Not everything can be fully addressed in a post, nor should it be expected.
For instance, it was just so easy it was to take a term new to me "MTHFR C677T" and just hop over to Google. And, Presto - tons of great links. Just follow the breadcrumbs and you'll get back home. -
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HI WOlfed
That looks to be a general cleanse of sorts for the guts and liver etc.
I do not see anything in it or any reason to think it would disrupt or affect your treatment in any way that is negative.
If anything you may start to notice your meds effectiveness is improved.
Good Luck with doing that ... it looks pretty gentle too
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Wolfed, My doc put my daughter and I on this last November. We used it right along with our other supps and meds.
One note on the fiber fusion tho, I believe it contains some form of oat bran, so beware if you are a celiac!
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Hey folks, my comments were mostly made in fun and jest. True, I don't understand a lot of this stuff, but like I said in my post above, "I'm not blaming them (anyone). That's why I keep coming here so I can keep learning and figuring out how to beat this disease".
I can obviously do a google search if I want to learn more about this for sure. But I do think that if someone is going to bring up new things like this, it wouldn't hurt to explain it to the best of their ability and/or provide links to websites that will make topics like this more understandable for those of us who's brains are half the size of a pea (like me).
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- Maybe they ARE doing the best they can. Some key information is sure a lot better than none. -
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A simple short explanation is not needed to generate further interest ?
I don't have the time to google everything or check out the 19 million hits from the googie search. Most days.
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Hey Back to detox ideas..
Lets not contaminate a great thread and if you do not mind could you start a new thread for this other topic. Makes it hard to follow what the detoxers are trying to ask and follow up on.
Thanks Much appreciated.
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springshowers
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So today I was able to during my IPT treatment to get what they call and Lymph drainage foot massage.
Wow was it ever nice.!!
The go through and along each of the bones from toes up and massage out any knots and open up those channels. I had an infared dome over me during the whole thing too..
It was relaxing and nice. Has anyone had one of those anywhere.
Every little bit added up helps.!
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Keebler
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- massman,
You said you don't have time to stroll over to Google. If you don't have time to further study the material, then just don't.
Posts here are a gift from someone and it's not nice to say you just don't like the color or the way the package was wrapped. You don't buy a book and return it with instructions for the author to change the voice or the tense. Same here.
What is presented is likely the best work - and hard work - of someone who cares enough to try to make a difference.
Accept. Enjoy it, or expand upon what was presented for you so that you can gain a more refined understanding or learn even more from it. Or don't. But it's just rude to be critical of someone's hard work.
You have no idea just how hard they may have worked to pull together some of this stuff in as professional manner as they can - usually also offering you handy links with even more detail.
It's polite to say "Thank You." -
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OK Keebs I ask for something short + get nailed to the wall for it. A sentence or two is too much ?
I took my first doses tonight, and I expect some nice...ummm...movements.
I'll update this thread with how I feel about the product and process after I've completed the course.
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Seems my comments were offensive to a couple of people. I apologize for that. Meant no harm and was just trying to be a bit humorous. That didn't work out so well. Again, to those who were hurt or offended, my apologies.
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Have taken the plunge and just started what i think will be the ultimate detox - a raw vegan diet. The immediate result is very encouraging, mainly through giving up grains I think but my pain levels have shot down. This is the best improvement I have ever seen and in just 2 days.
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I've experienced 6 yrs worth of stuff. I will come back and add my whole list later.
But the biggest and most effective thing I believe I did is: Lymph Drainage with a well trained massage person that had treated chronically ill patients for years.
Lymph drainage was done once a week for 2-3 months. Then we went to every 2 weeks schedule for a few months and then I went once a month for about 3 yrs.
During that time if I felt I needed a massage to work on painful areas then we would work those areas.
One shouldn't complain about the cost of doing things like this. There was no doctor or drug or supp that could do this for me.
I'll never forget how Gigi would respond to others about the cost of doing things to get well. She said one should do whatever they had to do to get better. Beg, borrow, sell.
One must do what one must do. Now, you might be able to have the same effect with buying a rebounder. But at that time in my illness I was too ill to jump on a rebounder.
The majority of what we need to get better here is not covered by our insurance companies. Out of pocket is just the way it is.
Pam
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How does the epsom salt detox a person? Does it just open the pores more? I am not sure how it detoxes. Thanks for any info.
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- Nothing really "detoxes" us, in and of itself. We give our body certain things - or do certain things that supports the intricate detox process. It's just like nutrition. We don't build bones but we give our body what it needs to do that.
How epson salts work is that magnesium is absorbed through the skin and taken up by cells that then go to work for our liver - and colon - to work better.
The links for how the liver works explains more about this. Those links are 2/3 of the way down page one of this thread.
In addition to the magnesium, the warmth of the bath helps circulation - and relaxation - and that also helps our body with the on-going, never ending and process of cleansing.
Yes, the pores of our skin are also opened by the warm bath, we sweat out some toxins and that is also helpful so that the liver does not have to do it all.
Be sure to always rinse off after a bath with epson salts. Either leave the shower hose down so you can reach it or have a shatterproof pitcher near the tub. -
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I can't stress ENOUGH how much changing my diet has improved my overall improvement and well-being.
I know many people already take good care in what they eat, but for those who don't, this is one of the best things you can do to find some immediate relief from your pain.
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Been hearing more about rebounders and Tramps.
I have been using mine more often lately. And my doctor asked me to be doing this too.
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I started pulling oil about a year ago. I did it every morning faithfully for about 8 months, then had to have some dental grafting and had to stop for about a month or so.
After the grafting healed, I started back again, but now only a few times a week.
I know that pulling oil has done two things because I can actually see the difference - 1.) My teeth are whiter. People have even commented on it. 2.) My gums are healthier, pinker, and have grown further up/down between my teeth where before they were not.
I am now in a hold position with my periodontist where before he has had a list of things he wants to do, but so far he's said nothing has gotten worse.
I also think it may have helped with some of the head issues and fatigue, but of course, I cannot prove it.
If anyone is interested in learning more, please read the below links:
Cheers!
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SO I put my exercise ball in place of my desk chair and will be bouncing a lot more. Will see how it goes. It is good just to sit on even because you have to stead yourself and keeps the core working and strong. I am so out of shape. I want to be able to do "some" working out.
The bouncing will help lymph drainage.
Reducing inflammation is another important thing
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I tried the led detox treatment last week. Treating for sulfites, with the treatment and a burbur tincture. I haven't felt anything good or bad. I am supposed to do another treatment for other substances this week. Should I continue?, it is costing me $110 per session and I'm not working.
Thanks, diana
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Are we really herxing, or are we just making the buggers mad so they send out more neurotoxins, similar to the way a skunk sprays anything that gets close to it? If all we are doing is making the buggers mad, then it could mean that the herx is overrated and that our treatment protocols are insufficient.
Either way, it would seem that detox is very important, but this could open the door for another way to judge the effectiveness of a treatment protocol.
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For Detox doing Diet.
I started with No Dairy No White anything (potatoes pasta sugar etc) No Grains except Brown Rice Nothing processed or in a box. Fish or Chicken 1x a week at most - No other meat Organic whenever and as much as possible
6 rules !! and you would be surprised the HUGE difference!!
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Good suggestions springshowers. I do well with:
No Gluten No Dairy No Soy No Grains except for brown rice (Just like you springshowers) No Sugar No animal protein ( I rely mostly on protein from powder, beans, and brown rice....aside from fish once or twice a month) No Corn
I have insane food allergies ontop of it so my other limitations don't count. But I think a lot of lyme patients would do great on a diet like that (totally agree with springshowers on this one). The animal protein/meat thing is controversial though. I do think that most lyme patients do well with animal protein, but I personally don't.
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Hey little !! We are alike arent we?
I use almond milk.. I did not type no soy but I agree with that and I thought no dairy is important enough.
Just like you I eat a lot of beans for protein. And protien powder too... Just like you and once or twice a month for some other form.. ..
Wow.. we sure are close..
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I do best on this diet too and many allergies no longer test positive either...
But i stay on the diet because it feels best.
Will not lie and say I am not perfect and even every so often cheat on purpose to fill up that desire and urge for something I really crave or want... and I would rather do that than expect myself to be perfect beause I would end up wanting to just quit. My way I do not stop trying...
Thats just me.
Oh TONS OF Water !
Water water water water !
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This last one is from a vet who really knows about nutrition.
I am really struggling with my diet since I found I was allergic to rice so am raw vegan apart from chicken every other day while I am seeing if it is good for me or not. If it is not then I am really stuck as there is little left and a high fat raw vegan diet is not good.
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Springshowers, we're so much alike! Good work on your diet
Except, I can't ever "cheat". Unfortunately, I have to even be careful of "cross contamination" as well. Even a crumb throws my GI tract for a loop, and if I "cheat", the heart symptoms and neurological symptoms really attack. So I'm okay with eating this way, if it makes me feel better and wards off symptoms!
I really encourage everyone to try going strict gluten free, if your doctor has recommended or approved it of course, and see how your body does. Even if you have a little gluten in there, you probably won't reap the benefits from the diet at all.
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Thank you, springshowers, for this fabulous thread! And I am so thrilled to see Lymenet folks getting along for once... Posts: 220 | From central TX | Registered: Jun 2005
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Hey All. I got an ionic foot bath and have been using it and getting really good results.
I read that the array can be used for Foot, hand or body and read a few spots online that talk about how you can use the device in the bathtub.
I want try that next!
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About the lymphatic drainage work: anyone have more symptoms (or herxing) afterward. There have been a couple times in the past year that I've gotten massage or cranial sacral and, almost immediately, I've gotten a huge awful cold/bronchitis, with awful pain.
Also, how do you brush your body?
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Yes after lymphatic drainage you can herx of feel sick etc. If you do them ongoing you will feel that less and less.
To Brush you body you use a natural bristle brush and you do it Dry brush and dry body. You are supposed to brush toward your heart. So start at the feet and hands and then pull upward. I use little circles around the area I am working on and then end it with long full strokes to pull toward the heart. I do the feet and ankles and then the calves and thighs and then the hands and arms and then the torso and back. Include your head or at least neck too.. NOt too hard but you will see your skin turn a bit pinkish. That is good and that is enough. It goes pretty quick and takes me about 10 minutes only and I try to do it two times a day..
I have a lot of pain and this has been one of the things that seems to help or at least distract from the pain and gets blood flowing and detoxes the skin by opening up the pores. I take a bath typically after the am brushing and sometimes at night too but usually the 2nd brush I just do to without one after but still enjoy and feel the benefit.
Hope that helps some.
Oh And brush those under arms and around those lymph spots. In the front area too around where the neck meets your chest and where the knees bend behind knees. THose are good lymph spots to stimulate.
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Anyone bought one of those Dome Infared Saunas that just go across your part of your body at a time?
I use them at my doctors office and like them but not sure if it is worth buying? They are about 900 dollars. I am not able to get a sauna that is a full one as I have to move out of my house and need something transportable for now.
I also saw just the belts and have used those and amazed how well they feel they work to heat up your core.
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Spring, I have the portable one that you sit in and your head sticks out. About $200 at National Pool Wholesalers with free shipping. I LOVE it--it has been instrumental in keeping the pain down and detoxing.
It also is warrantied for a year so when my heater broke they immediately replaced it free of charge.
I don't have a lot of room in my house either and this works well.
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Thanks that is great... I am a bit leary of the material used on those? What is it made of and have you had any smells or such?
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Those look so interesting. And you said you've used them at your doctor's office and liked them?--I would go for it. It appears from what I read they do the exact same thing as a full size one.
Yes there are smells with the one I have but they go away after the first few times of using it.
I am somewhat chemically sensitive but I don't have a problem with it.
If you do get the half circle ones, let me know how it works for you. Is this wear you bought your foot detoxer?
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What things do you all take internally for detox and toxin absorption
I know of Wechol Cholstrymine Those two are prescriptions
Then Activated Charcol
Can anyone help add to the list THanks much
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