quote:Originally posted by wiserforit: WOW! I have to add to the above that this Alligator Pit is cathartic!
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That's the main reason it's here. From time to time, we bring it back up for the newbies. It's pretty awesome, huh??!!
I LOVED the way you pushed and shoved those folks to the gators. Hope the gators survived all those you shoved in there, because we have to keep them around for the next ones coming along!!
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I'd like to shove in the female Pharmasist at CVS in Aberdeen in to the aligator pit.
She says my husband and I are the only people she has ever heard of taking long term antibiotics for lyme.
But before I push her into the pit I'd like to kick her @$$!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posts: 1974 | From ABERDEEN, NJ 07747 | Registered: Jan 2005
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At LLMD's request, I had a local dermatologist look at what has become hundreds of blisters/bumps all over the tops of my hands and fingers. My skin is not sun burned, just itchy and bumpy...
I wanted to know if it was a Doxy skin reaction to rule out allergy.
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Derma Duck: How do you know you have Lyme?
Me: Positive Lyme tests, myriads of doctors, sickness for a long time, got a tick that bit me...
Derma Duck: But you've been on antibiotics way too long, you should be better by now. You aren't going to one of those wacky Lyme Clinics are you?
Me: No.
Derma Duck: How do you know you aren't?
Me: I've been through 23 doctors and gained enough wisdom from the experience to be able to discern which doctors are knowledgeable and professional versus the ones that only think they are....[I was practicing restraint...]
Derma Duck: Well there are camps that say...
Me: Yes I know. Camp A; Camp B. Which one are you from?
Derma Duck: Oh, me? I'm not in a camp. You have eczema.
Me: Could I have burned my hands driving while on Doxy?
Derma Duck: Oh sun won't hurt your hands on Doxy...
___________________________ AHHHHH!
Waste of time! Plus the guy was smacking this huge wad of gum in his mouth the whole time! Plus he looked like the red-headed mean-doctor on SCRUBS.
SO.... I suppose if the bumps are just on my hands and not all over my body, I should just continue the Doxy?
In the meantime, my brain is herxing like crazy and I'm dizzy and emotional...BUT...strong enough not to have dived across the desk to strangle the Derma Duck!
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Definately think that all derma's should go back to school to study rashes from the tick borne desease book of hell!!!!!!!!
Gators here are all our dermatologists old school books. They are probably over a hundred years old. Good fiber.
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To every duck, and duckette who ever left me as a confused 20 something year old freezing in a skimpy hospital gown, sitting on an exam table for 45 minutes, crying my miserable eyes out,
then had the nerve to ask, "What's the matter with you!?!," before handing my uninsured waitress pocket a bill for services...you are now LUNCH!
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Ah, my trusted and like-able Dr. Stephanie B. of Knoxville, who strung me along with FMS, put me on steroids over and over, pushed narcotics on me (I won't take them!) and most recently told me:
Lyme is a disease that people cling to when they need a big drama in their life. AND that there's no lyme in NC. She doesn't know what a herx is and hasn't studied lyme in 15 years (she admits this!), but she feels she can tell me that I have FMS and *nothing* else.
I really wanted to trust her, but this woman has shown that she would let me suffer and maybe even die before admitting she is wrong.
I'm sad to throw her in, but after today's condescending talk with her, I still want to.
I hope no one here ever runs into her.
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Heh, he looks pretty happy; guess she went down well.
He's still looking a bit hungry though.
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Ok, True, I'll feed the gator -- had no idea this site existed!
The rheumatologist I went to for meds. He tried to undiagnose me. I already had a Western blot test with 4 positive bands, and a phenomenal clinical response to a month of clindamycin. And a remembered tickbite on my foot and 25 years of symptoms.
He sent out for an ELISA and it came back negative. Good news, he sez, you're negative. I told him it misses much of the time, and besides, the 2nd line on the sheet said a negative test result does not rule out Lyme.
BTW, I don't like to call a doctor a doctor if they're unwilling to recognize Lyme disease. I call them a mister. Or a ms, I guess.
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hello gators! brought by some duck with a bunch of side dishes !!
Thanks dr. d [my son insists on calling you Dr. Death for reasons we cant go into here] for making patients wait WEEKS[sometimes months for those pesky patients who wouldnt just go away] before you would order a test or even give a much needed meds. You couldnt even give a simple antibiotic to a kid who had a raging fever and an obvious infection from a bite unless the mom threatened an ER trip. You KNEW he had lyme but gave his naive mom every reason in the book as to why it wasnt. Thanks to your greediness my son has had to grow up not knowing what its like to not have pain everyday. I wont even go into what you did for me or a dozen other people we knew. I hope the kick back money was worth it to you!!
To the insurance idiots who thought the kick back program was a novel idea.......in you go!! To the insurance execs who make treating patients next to impossible and for all the hell you gave our beloved Dr. G in Pa...the extra shove!!
Enjoy the feast my gator friends as I am sure there are more to come!!
Sincerely, a ks mom who wont give up!
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I'll feed the gator the first dermatologist ... who blinked like an owl in daylight when my first response to his steriod prescription was to ask, "but what if I don't want to take those?" As if I couldn't possibly question his recommendation!
Oh, how I wish I had followed my intuition and avoided all the damage done!
Happy eating, dear gators!
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I've got another gator for y'all. his name is Frank and he's STARVING!!!
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Hey Frank! You look mighty hungry! You are closer to DC than I am....run over to the FDA and start chomping on those regulators that want to take away our rights to vitamins and supplements!
[duck disease seems to be pretty prevelant over there and needs to be eraticated! ]
quote:Originally posted by ks mom: ....run over to the FDA and start chomping on those regulators that want to take away our rights to vitamins and supplements!
Ditto!!
Robin, You're right about that green kitty!!
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& many more. one was a pediatrician, one was neurologist, and one was an infectious disease doctor. i'll message you their names if you need them so that you don't go to them and risk not being helped.
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Dr. W- said I wanted to become an anorexic,was depressed, and I had gotten a girl pregnant... Dr. D- said I had a migraine and was not happy with my life Dr. R- said I was depressed and needed to go eat DR. H- said I had post viral syndrome and will eventually get well Dr. V- said I had chronic fatigue syndrome, was perfectly healthy just depressed Dr. H- said I needed a girl friend Dr. B- said I had west nile virus Dr. P- said my lyme test was bogus, lyme doesn't exist, gave me a pain killer and said go to school Dr. A- lyme doesn't exist, need to take advil and a anti nausea drug everyday
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J.C. - USC (Southern Cal) ID Dept. Avoid at all costs, unaware Bb has cyst form. Claims to have treated LD in NY.
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Adding BIL's DUCK to the Alligator Pit. BIL is a hunter, found a tick on his skin. Tick was engorged. He got a rash. DUCK told him he doesn't have Lyme.
Apparently this DUCK is psychic because without one single test, he knows the tick didn't carry Lyme, he knows that the rash is not Lyme related, and he knows BIL will not develop symptoms.
DUCK never saw the tick. DUCK practices in a Lyme endemic state. A state heavily populated by deer.
This DUCK deserves to go into the alligator pit!!!!
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Should the doc who first treated me be thrown to the 'gators? Well, I'm not so sure. He was very good for many things; it's just that most docs are kind of conditioned to believe ducks from certain, ah, ..'well respected'... institutions.
Thus it's particularly tragic when one of those ducks loses sight of real science and insists, with the assistance of certain elements of the corporate dictatorship, and to the detriment of thousands of of patients' well being, that he is right, and that everyone else is wrong.
It takes courage to do anything right. Many "LLMDS" have that little extra bit of courage; we should be very happy for thaT.
But maybe an alligator pit is a little severe for those ducks that are simply a little to yellow bellied to question the "powers that be"... On the other hand, many patients are suffering.
But if a doc goes too far the other way, patients may suffer then, too. It's a hard gig, to be sure, but not without its compensation, which, for the moment comes way too much off the backs of those who can least afford it! But I digress...
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Well I am brand new to this board. I was diagnosed this week. I would like to kick all the rude ignorant docs I have encoutered in the pit after I have tortured them a little.
to all those that underestimated my pain and symptoms. You all SUCK.
If another doc tells me to lose weight and take anti depressants they are going to get it.
And to the on call doc that I called begging for help last night that said he couldn't help me and that I must have personal problems and need antidepressants, and to put my baby on my lap and pray,because I was not sick just tired.
You better watch out and you are lucky I am only drop kicking you into a pit of crocks. Maybe then you can pray and take antidepressants you stupid jerk. How did you graduate from medical school anyway?
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Sorry I am angry. This felt good though. thanks for the thread...now if we could only make this real.....lol
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Dr. A.M in central Florida for telling me that my "nuero-transmitters were mis-firing".
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Well, I'm feeling in a throwing mood...so into the pitt goes Dr. M.S. in California.
Went to see her a year ago January, for extreme lightheadedness, nausea, heart palpitations, diarrhea, headaches, extremely low blood pressure (and resulting feeling of passing out), joint pain, etc.
This was a couple of months after having a stubborn case of strep throat, an ear infection and a sinus infection and being on several rounds of antibiotics.
Picture the setting: It was late in the day...they squeezed me in...she was getting ready to out of town.
My blood pressure was something like 87/60, she says, that doesn't seem so bad.
I say it's much lower than my normal reading (around 110/70) and I have the dizzyness and feeling of passing out.
She says, well, I don't have your chart here, but it seems okay.
She takes my pulse and says, it seems fine.
The dizzyness is probably inner ear, take dramamine for the nausea and don't move suddenly. Say WHAT?!
Then she says, I could put a holter monitor on you but it probably wouldn't show anything. Say WHAT?! I was getting the palpitations when I layed down to sleep at night.\
I left that day and haven't been back since. I made an appointment the following month with a different doctor who at least did me the courtesy of running some tests...especially for C.Diff because of the diarrhea and antibiotic history. She also found BLOOD in my stool in the office exam.
Phew...it's been a while since I've told that story. Felt good today!
Fortunately my doctors since then have been pretty good.
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m in texas -- told me i didn't understand english, what kind of person was i, that my husband was going to come into the office and start shooting everyone (my husband was a marine).
he had me in tears -- his nurse came in and he told her to get me out of his office.
that man was crazy.......
all over medications because i didn't take a medication HE PRESCRIBED and then when the test results came back, he told me "thank god, you didn't take it."
he's freaking nuts........
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Dr.Q, Dr.B, Dr.M, Dr.H, Dr.Cleveland Clinic, Dr.H, Dr.H, Dr.S, and Dr. Drr a gg a s s! Here quacky, q u a c k y y.
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Ok I am throwing my stupid Rheumy and the ID docs from today into the pit. I hope the gators get them good....Happy eats Posts: 3905 | From USA | Registered: May 2007
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Thanks! Nyummy! He seems to think there are more out there. Toss 'em in!
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I love this list of idiots.
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This is for my neighbor's Dad who just found out he is IgM CDC positive
And Igenex IgG positive.
Has diabetes. Went to his "internist".
Showed her Western Blot. She didn't even blink an eye or look up from her
Scribbling in his chart. She wanted to know who was going to treat him for this.
(We had already made him an appt. with LLMD)
He lied and said some ID duck in the area.
She knew nothing about Lyme and worse is that she didn't care to even
Look it up, ask him about his symptoms, etc.
Into the 'gator pit.
Man those 'gators must be getting fat by now.
Anybody ever had fried alligator???
Pretty good. Tastes just like chicken!
Hugs,
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Saw a new neurologist for my myoclonus. Ask her about my thyroid tests. She said she didn't do thyroids. I told her that she should take the lovely certificate down from her wall that says she is board certified in internal medicine, then.
When examining me, she told me not to speak.
Dr. Ca goes to the alligator pit! Hiker
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ID Doc who didn't even know ticks could transmit bart said he'd bet his CAREER I wasn't sick!
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Thanks, adamm!!! Those gators were getting pretty hungry!! Did you read through some of the posts and see how many ID ducks are already in the pit!!??
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Well, I've spent the last ten minutes trying in vain to cut and paste a gator graphic...
But I want to add to the Pit....
The ID duck that looked me in the eye and told me that co-infections were self limiting and didnt need to be treated.
The rheumatologist who said that a few weeks of 100 mg Doxy made it such that, if my daughter still felt sick, she needed to follow up with a psychiatrist.
The so called Lyme Expert who ignored the CDC positive WB because band 41 "is common to all bacteria" and told us that my daughter had Fibromyalgia...
when asked why she felt better whenever she had antibiotics...he told me, "All fibromyalgia patients feel better after antibiotics"
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I came across this PIT and This IS GREAT!!!
HERE GATOR, GATOR, GATOR......
THIS IS FOR ALL THE DOC'S THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE LAST 4 YEARS THAT TOLD ME THAT I WAS CRAZY IN THE HEAD, NOTHING WAS WRONG WITH ME, IT'S ALL IN HEAD, I'M FAKING IT, I'M WAISTING THERE PRECIOUS TIME, AND MOST OF ALL I NEED TO STOP THIS ACT AND GROW UP!
AND THE BIGGEST AND BADDEST ONE OF ALL, THE WORST OF ALL IN ROCHESTER, MN THE WORLDS "FAMOUS HOSPITAL"!
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH ON THEM!
THESE GATOR'S ARE SO HUNGRY FOR MORE DUCKS....I THINK I HAVE 1 MORE! A REALLY BIG JUICY ONE FROM A SMALL TOWN IN MINNESOTA JUST SOUTH OF ST. PAUL........DR. J!!!!
HE MIGHT BE A LITTLE SOUR FOR OUR GATOR, BUT HE WILL HAVE TO DO! HE MUST BE PUT INTO THE PIT, IMMEDIATLY! NO MORE TIME TO WAIST!
HE TOLD HE THAT MY LLMD WAS GOING TO KILL ME, THAT HE WAS A TOTAL LOSER AND A QUAK! HE ALSO INFORMED THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS, "LYME DISEASE!" HE ALSO INFORMED ME THAT I WAS BEING POISENED THROUGH MY PICCLINE, AND THAT MY CHILDREN WILL HAVE NO MOTHER IN 3 YEARS IF I KEEP LETTING HIM TREAT ME!
SO I BELIEVE HE NEEDS TO BE EAT'IN ALIVE STARTING AT HIS TOES AND VERY SLOWLY. LET HIM EXPERIENCE MY PAIN THAT I EXPERIENCE DAY IN AND DAY OUT. LET HIM SUFFER THROUGH IT ALL!
LET THE FUN BEGIN!!!!
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quote:Originally posted by Mom of 3: SO I BELIEVE HE NEEDS TO BE EAT'IN ALIVE STARTING AT HIS TOES AND VERY SLOWLY. LET HIM EXPERIENCE MY PAIN THAT I EXPERIENCE DAY IN AND DAY OUT. LET HIM SUFFER THROUGH IT ALL!
Good one!!
My LLMD was called a quack by a local dr....and I've lived to tell about it!!
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And the urgent care doc who told me the babs-induced brain damage was irreversible, but that I couldn't have it, because if I did, I wouldn't be able to speak
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I only have one doc for the gators. They'll have to share!
I forget the doc's name, but I went to her very scared, feeling ill, and all she told me was that I needed to see a psychiatrist, and to stop reading up information online.
WHY are you even a doctor if you don't listen to your patients?
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I got a good one, allergist I saw last November for ear/face pain, told me my fatigue and achiness becuase I was depressed because I'm 35 and am not married and have no children and I should see a psychiatrist. Nice.
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Oh my gosh...how many??
G.K., osteopath in NJ. Supposedly the openminded young doctor who wouldn't stop till he got an answer. After I didn't have sarcoid, HIV or cancer, he said it was 'stress' to impress the intern he was training.
Oh, Dr. R.J. in PA...another open minded osteopath. She knew I was sick...but with WHAT?? I find out later it was because I was out of work and the IGENEX test was expensive...so thats why she never mentioned Lyme, she didn't think I could PAY!
Dr M, an endo in Johnstown...jerk. "If its not thyroid..and its NOT...because your bloodwork is good, I don't know what it is. Get your other stuff checked out!"
Dr. T, rhuemtologist in Johnstown. "Oh, its SJOGREN'S, Mon Cheri!! Classic Sjogren's. We do not have to biopsy!! Its obvious...look at your skin! No, you don't need to have antibodies. You don't need further testing!"
I do not want to even go through the dozens of others...
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I was lucky to have only gone to a few doctors before I found an llmd. But I'll throw in the one dr. that really makes my blood boil.
Dr. C from Texas... I was told that my chest pain, heart palps,lightheadedness, fatigue, vertigo, ect. ect were all attributed to heart burn.
I even mentioned lyme disease because I had done my own research. He asked if I had a bulls eye rash. When I sad no.. he told me there was no way I could have LD.
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I have a nice crunchy one for the gators...and I tied a steak around his neck before I pushed.
My PCP (at the time) told me that I had a 'depressive disorder' to explain the fatigue, dizziness, stiff neck, headache, joint pain/swelling, and the 'migrating red rash'. (huh?)
I told him I was actually very 'happy' normally.
To which he cocked his head to the side and very slyly replied...
"Oh... well... that is very common, actually. A lot of depressed people mask their depression with happiness."
There are still scars on my chin from dropping it so hard.
In the pit with ya!!
(I hope the gator doesn't choke)
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