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3greatkids
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Well,I'll make a go of it,since this STILL makes me so mad.
I kept returning to my duck,same problems,knees hurt,legs feel like they weigh a ton,headaches.
He treated me for the 3week Doxy course and was satisfied I had completed ala CDC.
On one of the trips, into see this duck, I took a very concise and well written medical study.It covered Lyme basics and how the bacteria can actually go into CYST form,replicate and remain w/ you.Thus my pain,agony and pleas for help.That article really saved me,made me believe in the Lyme diag.
Dr. Duck glanced over the handout and proceeded to tell me,"I could have convinced myself of having a BRAIN TUMOR,after reading some of the journals while in med.school!" As if to say,hey stay away from my territory,that's only for qualified Med. school Ducks to read!!
He also noted on my file,patient feels like she is in the ozone.This of course was LYME BRAIN FOG!!!He blamed it on the pain meds.,which at the time,yes I was taking,did those pain meds. touch the pain of Lyme....NO!!!!!
I avoid this Duck at every turn,my hubby sees him and does a great jab job sometimes to make DR. DUCK feel special and oh so caring. Posts: 1076 | Registered: Apr 2003
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this used to be a very long thread, or am i thinking of the thread that said something to the effect of "whats the worst thing the duc, or even a bad "llmd" said to you "
back later to splice in some "good ones" into this thread.
no end/limit to the mental/physical sadism that these low-lifes will inflict. most often, the viciousness is deliberately so, and absolutely does NOT stem from genuine, but rather from calculated ignorance!
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I LOVE the Aiggator pit!...Can't we use their real names?..PLEASE ? PLEASE?
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Into the pit goes my gyn NP. Today she thought that seeing a 'calming specialist' aka hypnotist woudl help me with my anxiety during exam.
Hello...maybe for a non lyme patient....but i am in PAIN!!!! hypnosis isnt going to cut it.
im fed up.
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Here 'gators got a juicy morsel for ya, Dr E, who just hto't I was an uneducated dunce and he was 'god'. Geesh 'Doc' the Urinary infection had to come from somewhere,and you didn't even bother to check...
Well I don't have a full diagnosis yet,but it has never gone away...and my bladder is now 'worn out'and I don't find 'IC' one bit amusing. You could have saved me so much misery if you'd just checked a few things out all those years ago. Ducky meet yer due.
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Does the joke " it is hard to be objective when you are up to your a@@ in alligators apply here?"
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Dr. G - stupid, rude neurologist who told me that I should just have a glass of wine and my double vision and vision loss would be cured. Come to find out it was optic neuritis! Thanks for nothing!
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Here, gator, gator, gator...
This is from about 7 years ago...
Duck K Internist and complementary medicine, sounded like a good choice for a primary.
I go in for a sore throat... mention I have Lyme and he tells me he knows all about Lyme. He discusses Lyme with me for a while. Spills that he studied under one of the evil Ducks S..
Then asks me how come I know so much about it.
I answer that I've had Lyme a long time and have done a lot of reading. He tells me not to read so much!
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I'd like to re-feed the gators.
(since the old post is gone)
To the dermatologist / allergist in Somers Point in Southern New Jersey who gave me steriods 2x and four different antihistamins which I took for years.
I had chronic hives and was allergic to almost anything I ate. Also had explain weird rashes I had previously.
Gators you might want to take peptobismo before you eat this rich rich rich duck!
Please don't spit him back up again. Chew him to pieces.......... Hope you are hungry.......
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Here's one for Neptune or any other hungry gator.
When my husband was first diagnosed (by the Bowen test) and was being treated by our family doctor, and prior to our finding an LLMD, the family doctor suggested we see a neurologist about headaches. The neurologist had no knowledge of Lyme and sent us on to the Infectious Disease "Specialist". That DUCK waved the Bowen test results in the air and said, "I've never heard of these people, and I follow the Yale protocol for Lyme." He drew blood for a Western Blot on that Friday afternoon, after we told him that my husband was taking antibiotics. Of course the results were negative, so the DUCK said that there was nothing to treat. We later learned that blood should always be drawn on a Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday morning, flown to the lab, and that if the patient was taking antibiotics, it would produce negative results. On the second visit to get the test results we took DUCK a whole packet of information about Lyme, which I feel sure he trashed as soon as we left the office. Open your mouth, Neptune!
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Dr. PJ, an ER doc and close family friend, also the only doctor to whom I showed the residual EM rash, way back in 1989. "It's nothing," he said. "Leave it alone."
We are no longer friends so he is unable to confirm its existence. (My husband doesn't remember.)
In his case, we'll need a really big gator with an excellent digestive system to consume his huge ego and swollen head.
Then hold me back so I don't throw myself in after him as punishment for not having enough sense to go to a "real" doctor, IF such a thing has ever existed,
and for continuing to suffer with this IMAGINARY disease with no end in sight and for having to suffer through seeing all the other ducks who I foolishly consulted in the last 16 years.
But first, let me line the rest of them up. . .
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I would like to send the office manager from my urologist office to the pit!!!
She told me today based on my age i am not disabled. That IC can only be diagnosed when mast cells are found...if they arent there then you dont have IC.
Not sure why the head urologist and the fellow told me i had the start of IC, nor why a hydro is done...if they can diagnose based on biopsy.
This gator better chew her up cause im about ready to drive to the office and do it myself.
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actually, i have a doctor who didn't treat long enough or understand lyme...but he was sooooo nice, it's hard to throw him in the pit.... but, here goes...dr. l. ----- nice don't mean much, no more!!!
this is me
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quote:Originally posted by trueblue: He tells me not to read so much!
Well, at least he takes his own advice
Have you heard this one? My family doc that I went to see while still experiencing those first few weeks of initial Lyme and showing him where my weired bug bite was told me I was sick because I was home schooling my 3rd grade son.
Sorry Dr W, you were so nice, but if you had just prescribed abx then, I wouldn't be permanently disabled now. So, off to the gators you go!
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Here goes my folks next door neighbor. He is a physicians asst. and did a test on me 'once', didnt 'know' where he sent it and didnt see how THAT made a difference.
Now when ever he sees me he says I "CANT" have lyme, I tested you, it failed(cdc standards), I read too much junk on the internet, dont read or believe ANYTHING you read THERE!!!
I copied Dr B.s guidelines so he could update himself and 'learn' a little. All he screeched (in his whiney little voice) when I gave it to him IS, """When am I suppose to read all THIS"""???
I wish I had told him, makes a good sidekick partner to the Budweiser(s) he snuggles up to every night. He is a VERY accomplished beer drinker!!! Can smell it on him 24/7. AND he has a great beer gut!!
Nice knowing you B., hope you dont make the alligator drunk with 'your' inner contents. Cant sicken the gators cuz I am still --just don--
PS> Do gators get lyme??? From swallowing it???
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1. Dr. A--neurologist, saw her twice, very full of herself, once I said "sensitive to light" gave me the quickest neuro exam ever and declared the problem was migraines. Would not even consider anything else.
2. Dr. B--talked to me for oh, about 3 minutes, handed me an RX for antidepressants and told me to go get some fresh air and sunshine.
3. Dr. W--diagnosed me with CFS and saw him for 3 years prior to getting tested for lyme on my own through Igenex. He refused to test me for lyme and when I went in with my results and my daughters (CDC positive) he got mad and acted like a big baby. Said "why should I treat you, seems like you got it all figured out"!
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Run,RUN AWAY,when you hear these words...
WAIT AND SEE!
Look at the children w/ tick bites this past week and the DUCKS say, WAIT and SEE.
Ya think they would wait and see about the mole on your nose?
This wait and see stuff has to stop.
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Dr. A ("A" as in ADMITTANCE to the ALLIGATOR PIT--for telling me that I was simply depressed. I had vertigo, couldn't walk straight, and high ear pressure
Dr. F--very nice doctor, but he said I would need disability, and then said he would never sign the disability forms, because he was not a specialist.
Dr. S--who refused to do the Lyme test because I had no symptoms.
The alligator should have a feast for awhile on these 3 of the 13 doctors I saw before diagnosed.
Hiker
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Dr R.M. Rheumatologist. Briefly poked me in several spots in my back, left me to freeze while he took a personal phone call in the next room for 35 mins, came back in to announce "There's nothing wrong with you and you certainly don't have Lyme disease (with a smirk and a shake of his head)".
Dr T.K. Rheumatologist. "Lyme disease? Who told you you have Lyme disease?" I tell her name of LLMD and she says "You had better go now as I feel sick!".
There's 2 for the pit. Thanks doctors for not helping me.
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Have any of you ever gone to www.ratemds.com ? YOu can rate a doctor there. Try it.
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What a fantastic thread!! I hope the gators are hungry!
Dr. C - primary duck who referred me to several specialty ducks. Had the EXACT same conversation with me a year ago when I first saw her for symptoms that she did a 2 months ago (and both times insisted I probably had MS). Apparently she couldn't read my file. Rolled her eyes at me when I said I wanted to be tested for lyme.
Dr. S - cohort of Dr. C, prescribed anxiety meds, antidepressants, ADD meds and therapy upon the request of my mother WITHOUT EVEN TALKING TO ME!
Dr. P - neurologist who, while generally sweet, didn't test my spinal fluid for everything she apparently should have. Also, during the procedure, couldn't get the **** needle in my spine!!
Dr. C - optometrist who told me that the floaters in my vision were nothing to be concerned about and would "just go away."
Dr. D - dermatologist who has treated my 'eczema' for years with hydrocortisone cream and cortisone shots
And I saved the best for last... enjoy dessert, gators.
Dr. D - UM rheumatologist who diagnosed me with fibromyalgia without doing a tender point exam, told me there was no disease with my symptom patterns and told me that everyone feels like I do from time to time.
*whew* That's kind of a load off!
so long, duckies!
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Wow!!! Looks like Ducks all over the country. I have so many I could toss, but the worst of all was my primary care physician.
Started out telling me I had Fibro, sent me for pain counciling, numerous neurologists, and another specialist that said I had Degererative Disk Disease and sent me for epidural steroid shots...
Then when I come back in and can't walk, I'm numb in parts and pained in others, trembling in my right arm, he runs a head MRI.
Tells me it isn't a stroke or M.S. Then asks me to do things like touch his finger with the hand I'm using to hold my self up since I had no balance ...
and when I end up on the floor, he gets angry, says my MRI if fine and there is no reason in the world that I can have neurological problems if my MRI is clean.
He told me to go straight to the E.R. to admit myself for physiactric analysis, and when my husband mentioned lyme, he says "I can't take this anymore", and walks out the door.
So he followed it up with a certified letter to my husband and a C.C. to me saying he was canceling my husbands physical in a couple weeks because it was obvious we don't respect his medical judgements.
Talk about a brain dead duck! Hope that Duck C. won't upset Alligators tummy! Better get alligator some Pepto Bismol for this one.
Cathy
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quote:Originally posted by tdtid: He told me to go straight to the E.R. to admit myself for physiactric analysis, and when my husband mentioned lyme, he says "I can't take this anymore", and walks out the door.
So he followed it up with a certified letter to my husband and a C.C. to me saying he was canceling my husbands physical in a couple weeks because it was obvious we don't respect his medical judgements.
Talk about a brain dead duck! Hope that Duck C. won't upset Alligators tummy! Better get alligator some Pepto Bismol for this one.
Cathy
Sheesh! Poor gators!!
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quote:Originally posted by notcrazykate: Dr. D - UM rheumatologist who diagnosed me with fibromyalgia without doing a tender point exam, told me there was no disease with my symptom patterns and told me that everyone feels like I do from time to time.
*whew* That's kind of a load off!
so long, duckies!
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the worst and cruelest duck i ever saw was actually a psychiatrist, Dr. B. i was forced to see her, because my family committed me to a psych ward without my consent (long story -- this was when i was extremely ill with lyme and no one, not even my mother, believed me. they all thought i was crazy).
anyway, i was armed with my LLMDs phone number and my highly positive igenex results, but Dr. B could've cared less. she didn't believe chronic lyme disease existed, she told me i was very, very mentally ill and that i had convinced myself i was physically sick with lyme disease, and diagnosed me as 'severely delusional'; her exact diagnosis was 'somatic delusional disorder.' she put me on heavy doses of both depakote (i've never in my life been bipolar) and clozaril (a really intense anti-psychotic; when you're on this drug, you must get your white cell count tested weekly to make sure it doesn't plummet to a dangerous and potentially fatal level).
Dr. B. also refused me any of the lyme meds and supplements i was taking previously. she got the state court to commit me to six months in a psychiatric ward for my 'severe delusions,' and if i hadn't been transferred out of her care to another psychiatrist, she would have forced me into electroconvulsive therapy as well.
of course, her theory that i was 'delusional' was happily bolstered by an ID duck (dont remember his name) who gave me an ELIZA (came out negative, of course), asked me if my joints hurt, examined me for all of two minutes, and told me 'there is no way in hell you have lyme disease.' a true and admitted steere-ite, the worst of the worst. according to him, igenex is a 'quack' lab and all our LLMDs are 'quack' doctors. right.
so, added to the alligator pit: Dr. B and unnamed ID duck, both hailing from the lyme-endemic state of MN!
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I have one for the pit I went to my family doc with a bulls-eye rash and was given "the doxy 21 day cure". He said that he wouldn't even run the tests for lyme because they were so unreliable.
WHAT ABOUT CO-INFECTIONS? That wasn't even brought up. That was in June 06 and Aug.06 I had found a llmd and I tested positive for lyme.
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Dr. F. Pediatric researcher,protector of kids.....
Stating Chronic Lyme is a MYTH!!!!!!!
Man -o man,if I could throw him in a pit.Maybe when he meets his maker,the pit will be available.
I'd like to send a pit bull over in someones direction. Yum, tasty,Years of suckin up and making those $$$$$,ala tax payers makes em extra tasty.Right Roxie,sweet pit bull.
Sure tell me what to say,I'll feed em the bait....Chronic Lyme is a myth..... Posts: 1076 | Registered: Apr 2003
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OMG!! Those gators have not been fed for several months now! Please make your contributions ASAP!!!
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We have plenty of gators in Louisiana as well as ducks to feed them.
Thanks to Dr. B -- told me I had post traumatic stress disorder, sent me home with paxil.
Thanks to Dr. L -- thought it might be CHF!!??? No evidence to support this.
Thanks to Dr. M --finally ran a Western Blot on me, along with about 15 other tests. She turned into a duck when she tried to dx me with diabetes, fibromyalgia, etc.
Thought that 6 weeks of antibiotics should cover me since I was her 3rd Lyme patient.
When asked about co-infections she said she had tested me. I have the results. No co-infection testing.
Thanks to the ER doctor--was very handsome, but sent me home with xanax and told me I should get a Lupus test.
Oh, by the way....I asked every one of those doctors to do Lyme testing on me as I had so many of those symptoms and rheumatoid arthritis and ana were neg.
I was told that I didn't have that, or couldn't have that as it is not in this area.
Hope those gators chew real hard.
Geneal
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Didn't know about the pit! Woo-hoo! Here goes:
I push Dr. RS, who said that unless I had a bullseye rash and the tick who bit me, he wouldn't test for Lyme. Told me I had allergies.
I push Dr. BK, the ER doctor who told me I had mono and nothing more.
I shove Dr. BI, who was so stoned after a night of playing with his band that he couldn't keep his eyes open and they kept rolling to the back of his head during my examination. He agreed with the ER doc... just mono. I found out two weeks later that his practice was shut down and he was on probation for narcotics use. HE WAS STONED OUT OF HIS MIND! He served his probationary time in rehab and is practicing again. Just turned away two other friends with Lyme by suggesting they go to psychiatrists.
I toss the infectious disease specialist who told me "You probably have MS...but at least it's not cancer." That from a woman -- shame on her!
I toss the neurologist who said I had a pinched nerve that made my hands and feet numb.
I shove the internist who said that my ELISA was negative so my symptoms were stress.
I toss the opthamologist who said that like a fine wine, I was aging and that was why floaters and light sensitivity were occuring.
Can I toss in the internists who told me I had the stomach flu when I actually had a ruptured appendix?
Oh, and the list goes on! The gators must have stomach aches by now!
wiserforit
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