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The thread about wierd symptoms is a great one- and cave76's response to our fellow lymie being dismissed with "benign vertigo" really cracked me up.
So here we go: What is the most outrageous thing YOU ever heard come out of a doctor's mouth?
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Here is a good one. I went to a neurologist because I was having very bad muscle spasms, trouble walking, slurring speech etc. She told me I needed to exercise everyday, but not just a little exercise. I must exercise until I am drenched with sweat otherwise my spasms would not go away. She said in when I see her in 6 weeks I would be fine. The nurse was shocked at the way the doctor was acting and she didn't know what to say so she said if you need a cheap gym go to the YMCA. I walked out of the office not knowing if I should laugh or cry. I cried.
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I went to the emergency room with palpatations and irregular heart beat, huge swollen knees and ankels...he said "you need a vacation..you're fine." I thought I was losing my mind...Quack Quack said the duck!
Posts: 364 | From Chicago, Il USA | Registered: Apr 2002
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LOVE THIS POLL!!! It needs to be made into a book!!! OK, here's mine:
I'm at my "get to know you" visit with my new PCP, hoping for an open mind on my journey to wellness.
I say "I just simply don't believe Lupus is the ONLY cause for these symptoms. I do not test DNA positive for Lupus, the only thing I have is an elevated ANA and that could be caused by many things".
Her response "The only other thing would be AIDS".
Withing 24 hours my HMO had me switched to a new PCP. They were appalled by the incident.
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What are the odds of you being bitten by a tick that has Lyme.....
Duh I Dunno, I only spent every waking moment of my life MTN Biking, and Rock Climbing in the woods of Northeastern P.A. for the last 10 freakin years.
I should have said...
The odds of me catching LYME are better than the odds that you would be able to diagnose it if I did....
May The Force Be With You....
Obi Wan
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Doctor #6 told me to "take this antibiotic for 10 days and forget about it" (the Lyme that is)!
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i needed this laugh; I just had an awful night after a e r visit; wanted tested for epstein barr--"they don't do that test here" also "we don't have lyme in south c." Well, now I feel better. Enjoyed laughin at the other posts; we all need to write a book about the wonderful ducks we have met over the years of lyme etc.
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After 2 yrs with lyme and babesia(spelling)The 4 wks of doxiciilan was enough to take care of it.Another year gone by same duck now says I have false positve results I can`t have it I`am just deppresed and I need to stop going on the computer. The problem now is that my deppresion is forcing me to stay on computer with you hypocondriacs!So much for the Ducks of the world!!!!!
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This is easy for me....after explaining some of my bizarre symptoms to a nuerologist he asked me if I was married or had a boyfriend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was so furious I threw the sample of antidepressants he gave me on his desk and walked out. Not that I didn't need them..but can you believe he said that????
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A brilliant M.S. specialist told me over and over that I didn't have M.S. -- yep, no question.
When my Lyme tests came back positive (several tests from different labs), I told this doc about it. He replied, "We haven't seen a documented case of Lyme in Texas in many years".
When I told him that I had also tested positive for the co-infections babesia and ehrlichia, he made a complete about-face, stating, "Remember, M.S. is still in the differential".
Heaven help us!
P.S. Oh Boola, I hope you hit that doctor!
Posts: 1745 | From El Paso, Texas | Registered: May 2001
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My father was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. When I asked his dr about Lyme disease, I got the standard answer - "We don't have Lyme disease in South Carolina."
Later, a wonderful Dr in New Jersey diagnosed Lyme affecting the central nervous system, causing the dementia. When we got home, I told the local dr about the diagnosis. I wanted to sound knowledgeable, so I used the medical term Neuro-borreliosis. He looked surprised and asked "Where did he come in contact with barillium gas (sp?)" Floored, I said, "No, tick bite...Lyme disease.." He stammered, "OH, I knew that, I knew that."
Yeah.....really!! Quack, Quack
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I logged on tonite to post about my husband, but couldn't resist replying to this!! A great thread...
I have a two way tie:
#1: My children's EX-Pediatrician: "Most adults who think they have Lyme actually have something else." This was after he had grilled me about why I felt a need to have my daughter tested when she was exhibiting many symptoms of Lyme and my son and I were already being treated for late stage Lyme....I made the mistake of pointing out that not all Lyme patients present with swelling knees.
#2: My ID duck: "You can't possibly have Lyme, but your bullseye rash sure throws me for a loop."
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I was telling ond doctor that I worked on a horse farm and horses ship in an out from all over because he said "no lyme in kentucky" We were stabled right next to a farm from New Jersey at the show where I got bit. i had a huge bulls eye rash on my neck whch grew larger over 4 days, then I got a bad still neck and fever. went to an er close to the horse show and they found the tiny tick still inside me having a feast! they put the tick on a piece of scotch tape and showd it to me under a microscope. they sent me on my way with some topical cream for the rash.
when I went to my regualr doctor the following week he said it couldn't be a lyme tick here in KY. This was in 1989, I guess back then they had signs near the state lines for ticks to jump off the horse vans fro New Jersey. haha.
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Our family doctor told me while lookin at the bullseye on my thigh:
"you don't have lyme - you just need to stay off the internet" I responded with "how else can I learn - I don't happen to have a medical library in our home" He says "Your not suppose to have a medical library - that is why you come to me. I AM THE DOCTOR with the education"
And the next time that he just happened to see us he took my husband aside and said:
"I believe that she believes that she is really sick, and I think that I could help her (wink, wink) I could prescribe just the thing to settle her down"
Unfortunately I cried before I could get out of his office!! Just hate that man knowin he got to me!
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The one that really got me was my all time favorite duck (the excuse for a doctor who misdx my EM rash)
He dismissed all my symptoms that were coinciding with my EM rash as due to stress..but then he asked me what was something that I really wanted lately..something that would make me happy..
I thought for a minute...but was really put off by it..didn't know where he was going with it...and I said that I had been wanting to see Les Miserables in SFran..
well, he wrote a med script out to me and told me to give it to my husband...it said something like "take your wife to see Les Mis"...he said that that would make me feel better.
I never felt so humiliated in my life...I remember breaking down in the car telling my husband..he just made me feel like such a hypochondriac..it was absolutely awful and I will never forget it! meghan
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Sent to rheumatology group at hospital (won't say which, but new Dr afterword said wouldn't send dead dog for autopsy there!) listened to all symptoms and stated "No matter what the tests say, at this stage if it was lyme all your hair should have fallen out". 14 years ago and Dr's are still uneducated!
Posts: 99 | From Monroe Township, NJ, USA | Registered: Jan 2001
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Duck #1 - "Are you sure your not fighting with your Hubby"? Me: "Yes I am sure" Duck " I think you are fighting with hubby"
Duck #4 Me "everytime I go to my inlaws I have to sit away from them or across the room because I feel like I'm going to pass out everytime I am there" Duck replied "In-lawidus" I gotta admit it was funny but later figured out since the house is so small it had something to with the oxygen.
Duck #20 something "I don't know what is wrong with you and you are lucky that I ran all these tests. I have a patient that is just like you and she ended up in the hospital because she went blind , now we can treat her. Lets just wait for something to happen."
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The alternative doctor that I saw for over a year and diagnosed me with multiple chemi- cal sensitivity--( I suddenly developed breathing problems and chemical sensitivity, all was attributed to my profession as an artist and a home improvement. When I came up "equivocal" on a test that I persuaded him to give me (I asked for Igenex), he told me that no one with Lyme ever had chemical sensitivity. I definitely didn't have Lyme. I saw Dr. H and retested for everything--Lyme, Erhlichia and mycoplasma came up (Igenex and PCR).
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!! After six months of being desperately ill, barely able to walk, covered with a rash over my chest,back and face, slung over a chair because I was unable to summon the energy to sit, my long-time family Dr said he was going to send me to Dartmouth-Hitchcock because maybe it was CFS, he really didn't know what I had. Then, with such a smirk, he said You know, of course, what you have is classified as a somatoform illness.
The alternative practitioners were no better, it was just put in "new age" terms that there was some hidden reason for my illness.... psychological, spiritual, some undealt with issue of my childhood, etc. You are sick therefore you have created a defect in some way, blocking your body from its natural radiant state, out of harmony with the universe...blah blah.
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Oh my gosh, Oski!
I had forgotten the prescription our doc gave my husband in the ER the night that I was there with my chin frozen to my chest!!
And they couldn't get an x-ray cause when they had me stand by the table and start to lay it down, I screamed with the pain.
The xray tech wrote "patient was very uncooperative"
I still have the prescription:
//Jane is to rest on the couch and be fed Bon-Bon on a silver platter by her lousy husband. Her husband is to wash the clothes and dishes, clean the home & take care of the kids.//
Yep - that did the trick doc - NOT!!!!!!
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Oh, this is such a good topic!! Lets see when my daughter first got sick 10 years ago( she was 8 yrs. old then) and was in the hospital after the spinal tap they did on her, he said "There was nothing ORGANICALLY wrong with her and I over nurtured her and she needed a shrink!!
Last year my daughter, now 18yrs. had a seizure so she was sent to a neurologist who told me that after two weeks of antibiotics she would NOT HAVE ANY NEUROLOGICAL problems related to lyme that would have caused her seizure ten yrs. later. That she was cured of lyme and I should let her get on with her life. Oh my God, I was gona punch this guy, ya right no neurological problems after 2 weeks of antibiotics, give me a break. Yep, those ducks ya gotta love em or hate em!! Barb
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Oh, I have a good one. Two years ago I found a tick attached to my abdomen. I called my doctor and asked if I should take antibiotics. He told me no, as there is no lyme in our area. Just wash the bite and let me know if you get a bull's eye rash. I never got a rash, but three months after the bite I came down with all the lyme symptoms in full force. Fast forward a year later....I go to another doctor and test positive for lyme. Thinking I should let my previous doctor know that there is lyme in the area so maybe he won't make the same mistake again with someone else.... I call him. I wasn't angry about what he had told me about there being no lyme in the area, as I thought he just didn't know, and if I shared the fact that I now had lyme and probably was reinfected by this tick, he would want to know. Well, he attacks me with, "I KNOW THERE IS LYME IN THE AREA, I HAVE HAD IT THREE TIMES." Is that not disgusting! SandiB
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After dozens of doctors and tests (except lyme) and no diagnosis for my incapacitating illness, I went back to my PCP and told her something was seriously wrong, I wasn't able to work, and I was not getting better. I asked her to test for lyme since she was already drawing blood. Her response.... "Why, you don't remember being bitten". She didn't order the test, I guess the expense was coming out of her pocket and not my insurance. By the way, I live in an area where lyme is epidemic.
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I think my fav was being told I was having sinus migraines. I was not having pain of any sort...what I WAS having were temporal lobe seizures. Several a day.
stay off the internet is always a good one.
Everyone has that buzzing noise in their head, you've only just become aware of it. Yeah, I believe that.
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Remember, all Ducks are going to tell you to stay off the iternet because most of the time you are misdiagnosed. Even my LLMD advised me not to read into things to much as each case is different, however he commended me for obtaing the knowledge regarding the LYME. I agree that sometimes people read into stuff to much, but that is human nature. If these Ducks were more sensitive during the 3 to 5 minits they spend with you, you may have more confidence in them. However, YOU are responsiable for your own well being and your own treatment, and these Ducks merely PRACTICE medicine on you. Information is the key, and it makes thier job more difficult if you are informed.
May The Force Be With You...
Obi Wan
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Dr. #1:
"After three weeks of 200mg/day Doxy, 99-44/100% of my patients get over Lyme for good."
This was from the guy who told me that his office has seen approx. one new case per Dr. per day (in the summer months) over the years.
Let's see: 1 x 3 Dr.s x 60 days x 6 years = 1,080 cases
ENT: Jordan is not sick, his mother just thinks he is.
PEDIATRICIAN: Make him go to school unless he is on his deathbed.
ID: If you have Lyme, you will test highly positive. Even if you have Lyme, it is only a nuisance not a serious illness. Two weeks of antibiotics will cure it.
ID: Doctors on the East Coast set up clinics just to treat Lyme and make money.
NEUROLOGIST: All kids have headaches and most of the time we don't know why. They usually are worse during the school year.
GI: Some kids have stomachaches and we don't know why.
PEDIATRICIAN: Could he be depressed? Go see a Psychologist. PSYCHOLOGIST: Go see Pediatrician because not enough medical tests done.
ID: No reason to test for Bartonella and Babesia in Minnesota.
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Here are my favorites ... at the beginning of my illness (before I knew it was Lyme), I went to one infectious disease doctor who told me that too many people diagnose people with Lyme and that it's becoming a fad and therefore he wouldn't diagnose me with Lyme. He said to just eat a more well-balanced diet (Note: I am an Exercise Specialist at a gym as well as a graduate student studying Exercise Science) ... my eating habits were obviously not my problem!
Then I had a neurologist say that I was too stressed out and that this was all just stress. He then called my Mom into the room and blamed her for stressing me out (Let the record state that I was not under stress ... except for the fact that I was so sick and didn't know why! ... and my Mom has never pushed me or stressed me out) ... it's amazing doctors like these exist ... so scary!
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Oh, I forgot to add my favorite misdiagnosis at all ... this one's priceless ... I was away at college when my Lyme first surfaced. I had gone out to dinner with some friends and then about 4-5 hours later was lying in bed and woke up in a cold sweat, so dizzy and woozy, nearly paralysed and shaking on my left side of my body with all sorts of neurological symptoms going on in my body ... most of which I can't even remember clearly anymore. I remember my roommate rushed to get our floor RA who then called 911 and an ambulance came to get me to take me to the ER ... I spent the night in the ER and was told that it was just a bad case of food poisoning!!! (mind you ... I didn't throw up or have any stomach symptoms though!) The ER doc also added that these types of "food poisonings" often occur when people eat fish and told me not to eat fish ... I guess it didn't matter to him that I had no fish that night or any other night for that matter (considering I'm allergic to it, I would never go near the stuff to start with!) What a moron! It scares me that colleges are giving doctorates away to such airheads!!
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Boy there are so many I don't know what to choose...
1. No I won't order a Lyme test, sooner or later the HMO is gonna "ding" me for ordering all these labs" Poor baby, his bonus check was at stake. I work at the hospital and see this boob on occasion. I walk with forearm crutches due to permanant nerve damage and have a PICC line in- " wow, you don't look to good, what's going on?" My answer " some idiot Dr refused to test me for Lyme and it turns out I have it and now I'm screwed for the rest of my life." No reply from the jerk.
Neurologist ( king of the stupid ducks) " You are extremely anxious and need to go on Prozac" I asked why I had no reflexes in my feet and he replied " not everyone has reflexes in their feet" Huh???? When I requested my medical records it said all my reflexes were normal and my gait was "unremarkable". Hmmmm, I guess he didn't notice the footdrop on the left or that I can't stand up from a chair due to weakness.
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Theres so many. Dr.#7 (Your blonde with blue eyes and your from Europe)you dont have Lyme Disease you have MS. Dr,#8 Are you sure your not have problems with your marriage.I'll give you some anti-depressants take double the dose and you should feel better Dr's 1 to 14 The ticks in Tennessee don't carry Lyme Disease it's all in your head.
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I can NOT believe this!!!!!!!!! Especially about the boob doctor. Why are these doctors so dumb? What ever happened to the hippocratic oath they take? It makes me soooo mad all of these stories. Thank God for our LLMD!!!!!!! We would truly be lost without them if not 6 feet under. They are literally saving our very lives.
Liz
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This actually happened to someone I used know. Sadly, the outcome was tragic.
Mom goes pumpkin picking with her kids. Daughter has Lyme and was in treatment for it. Sometime after returning home, daughter goes unconscious and into a coma. Daughter is rushed to the hospital where her LLMD practices (about 20 miles away). Enroute, she goes into complications so the ambulance turns around to taker her to the nearest hospital to be stablized because her life was at stake.
At the hospital she was taken to there is a self-proclaimed LLMD who believes that you are cured of Lyme after 28 days of antibiotics. Since the daughter had already been under treatment for Lyme for a longer period of time, the self-proclaimed LLMD poo-pooed the real LLMD's diagnosis and told the mom that her daughter really had a viral infection. Mom pleaded with the doctor, but was treated poorly. Doctor treats daughter with antivirals and daughter is still unconscious and in a coma. To placate mom, the self-proclaimed LLMD did try the daughter on IV antitbiotics and she showed some improvement but he didn't buy into it because "you're cured of Lyme after 28 days" and continued with the antiviral because he didn't believe she had Lyme. She was eventually transferred to the care of her real LLMD who proceeded with aggressive antibiotic therapy. She eventually regained consciousness (don't recall at which hospital that took place) only to be wheel-chair bound and no longer capable of coherent speech. Her mind still worked but she was no longer the same child. She was more like a child with cerebral palsy. The damage had been done.
The daughter passed away from complications several months later. Mom wanted an autopsy performed. I was told that the autopsy revealed that her little body had been infested with Lyme Disease.
So much for the "28 days and you're cured" theory.
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Hmmm...I can't really decide..theres a few. Anyways... after I'd been sick for about 4 months STRAIGHT (coughing, fevers, unable to walk some days...unable to use my arms other days)....hehe... doc finally told me on about the 5th visit in 6 weeks that I had "Flu syndrome"...thats not too outrageous I guess... but pretty funny since it doesnt exist! The most outrageous thing I think I ever heard...was when my doctor looked at me after I'd been in congestive heart failure for 3 months (and my cardiologist was telling my parents not to expect me to live more than a week at the most)...when I was 12 years old...and he said "Well...I can tell just by looking at the muscles on your arms that your just really out of shape and you need to exercise more." HELLO.... for the past year I had been figure skating 3 days a week/5 hours a day!! hehe...anyways...that one threw me for a loop! (it was a general doc that told me I was out of shape...not my cardiologist)...anyways.... thats probably the most outrageous one I can think of Along with the one about my mom having "munchausens syndrome" (spelling?) ..you know..the one where the parent poisons child and then brings child to doctor so that parent can get sympathy from doctor...? YEAH...RIGHT. What are we anyways... antibiotic ADDICTS?
..That last one was sad... guess it says a lot about docs these days doesnt it? ------------------ Lishka
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After i went in with lyme sx and a nice little bullseye, my duck told me that he was sending me in for a cat scan with contrast because i looked thin and that coupled with the night sweats led him to believe that i had hodgkins diease..(he actually told me this)...never mind that he knew i was an endurance athelete and spent alot of time outdoors..they blew out my vien with the iodine during the cat scan, and later i gave the duck my positive results from igenex along with dr.b's guidelines for treating lyme...by the way i dont have hodgkins disease, just lyme babesia and bartonella...greg Posts: 740 | From frederick,md,usa | Registered: Jun 2001
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In 1987 I was very sick....I had all the symptoms of lyme, but hadn't been diagnosed with lyme. A friend who was trying to help me, recommended I go to an internist at the local medical college. When I went to the internist, who happened to be the head teaching doctor, they put me in a room on a cold metal table. I remember sitting there for at least a half an hour freezing in only a hospital gown. Finally about five med students and the internist came in ....they prodded and propped every inch of me....they were so cold to me, but the worst thing was they talked like I wasn't capable of hearing them. Examining me like I was a specimen on a metal dish. Talking among themselves they left the room, and a nurse came in an drew about 6 tubes of blood, I was so weak I almost fainted. The nurse wasn't much more compassionate than the doctor and the med students. I went home ....and a week later as instructed I called the doctor's office. I was having an awful time trying to get him to return my calls. I wanted to find out the results of my test. When he finally returned my call, he sounded very annoyed and just came out and said, "You have lupus." I was so stunned, I didn't answer for a few seconds, when I started to ask him about my illness, he abruptly cut me off and said, "What do you want me to say", and hung up. After that experience I didn't go near a doctor for ten years. SandiB
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"you don't have lyme. you need a psychitrist. there is one on the floor above me. let me call now and make an appt for you. ARGH! needless to say i said "no thanks" and left the office never to return.
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My duck actually wrote me out a prescription that said "Go out and have some fun"!
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Years ago in the Bull's-eye newsletter I asked people to submit outrageous things about Lyme disease said to them by doctors.
This was in the August 1993 issue - I called them "Infamous Quotations" -
(Ed. note: The following are doctor's comments as reported by the patients to whom they were made. The quoted physicians are all practicing in northeastern Ohio, many at most respected medical institutions. Some are neurologists, rheumatologists or infectious disease physicians; others are pediatricians and family practice doctors.)
"You can't have Lyme Disease in Ohio"
"There have never been any cases of Lyme disease reported in Ohio" (there had been about 400 at that time)
"You don't LOOK sick!"
"It's not Lyme disease, it's LIME disease!"
Doctor: "You don't have Lyme disease" Patient: "How do you know? Doctor: "I went to Harvard."
About a child: "She can't be too sick; she's smiling."
"I have no idea what you had, but whatever it was, you're over it now."
"There is no such thing as Lyme disease."
"A hundred years ago, she would have been termed a sickly child."
To a child: "I think you are depressed and need a psychiatrist who will put you on anti-depressants. And you're just going to have to learn to live with it."
"If she doesn't have arthritis, she doesn't have Lyme disease"
"You couldn't have Lyme disease. Lyme disease is susceptible to penicillin and you had 10 days of penicillin in 1988."
"Even if it is Lyme disease, it wouldn't make any difference because there is no treatment for Lyme disease."
[Ed. comment: Do we need any further demonstrations of the need for physician education about Lyme disease????] (end of article.)
How awful that for the most part, the picture has not changed in the past 9 years!!!
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