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I am going to have darkfield done out of state on 3-19 Wed.
I have seen videos of the Bb forms. Does anyone have the links to videos or pictures of other pathogens like Bart or babs or filarial worms that I could look at before I go?
Thanks.
This darkfield is in KY and if it is very helpful I will share the location if someone is interested. I found this on a site that lists darkfield locations/docs.
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Babesia is harder to spot, but sometimes these crosses can be seen. I have never seen definitive babesia or crosses in my blood.
It is much easier to spot in dead blood stained samples.
I don't see many babesia videos & this one is rare.
"My name is Dr. Allen Anderson. Almost four years ago, at age 65, a stroke rudely interrupted my busy ear, nose, throat and allergy practice. None of the physicians in the multi-specialty clinic where I worked could pinpoint a cause for the stroke.
I was not over weight, did not have high blood pressure, exercised regularly and did not smoke. My cholesterol was mildly elevated at 240. My diet was standard American with plenty of steak, french fries and diet soda.
After 3 months of rehabilitation I returned to practice. My problem was that I could barely drag myself through a work day because of chronic fatigue and severe pain in my shoulder and neck. These symptoms did not improve with time. I also noted that I was depressed along with problems sleeping at night.
With no help from my colleagues other than pills, in desperation I consulted a naturopathic physician who looked at a smear of my blood under the microscope. He pointed out many spiral like organisms called spirochetes along with yeast parasites. This was my introduction to the epidemic-like malady that is affecting thousands of Americans yearly.
I had Lyme disease, an infection caused by the bite of a deer tick infected with the spirochete organism Borrelia burgdorferi. "
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"Sickest patients have most abnormal findings
This abnormal chemistry of the blood (the low amount of oxygen present, coupled with high levels of oxidative stress), then allows proliferation of what Professor Ali calls ‘Primordial Life Forms’ such as yeast, which clump with the microclots and worsen the problems outlined above.
In my experience, there is a correlation between the amounts of these anaerobic bugs seen and the severity of the illness.
Certainly my sickest patients have the most abnormal blood appearances on the video microscope. However these appearances are not only seen in CFS (ME) and Fibromyalgia (FM), but in many chronic illnesses. This is because at a cellular level the oxygen problems also exist in these illnesses. What I feel is important though is that the clots and yeast are a very important co-factor. "
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SLML, GSE reputedly pops Bb cysts. I use the nutramedix brand and I have no bad reaction.
On the microscope screening, there is a place in Idaho if that is close enough to you in Wash.
I had dark field Wed and was amazed. I saw one long lyme spirochete, 2 short stick bacteria with knobs on each end (maybe newer Bb), some yeast blobs, some type of immune cells loaded with waste & proteins on surface, mycoplasm (did not know I had this also).
Also, I had a number of RBC's with "target" centers, which is from having thin-membrane outer cell walls. And a number of RBC's that were shaped like tear drops and some were paired with their points touching.
The tear-drop RBC pattern was explained to me as caused by incomplete protein digestion, and food enzymes must be taken with meals to correct this.
Dark Field microscopy is amazing to watch. You can really see the health/non-health of your red & white blood cells, and pathogens.
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Be careful with GSE. If you are on Doxy or Zithro it can reduce the effectiveness of those ABX.
I am Doxy dependent & I know it definitely looses effectiveness when I try GSE.
It is always good to have visual verification & it is so easy to find. Look at this video from "Under Our Skin" & it comes on after Alan MacDonald speaks.
Doxycycline (Doryx®, Periostat®, Vibramycin®) Especially with doxycycline hyclate (Doryx®). Drink a FULL glass of water to avoid stomach irritation.9 Tetracycline (Tetracyclin®, Sumycin®)
DO NOT take the above medicines with some drinks containing calcium or iron. These can make your medicine less effective.
Herbal teas Popular flavored water Smoothies Orange juice Grapefruit juice Milk Milk of magnesia
In another article on grapejuice & ABX. This applies to clarithromycin (Biaxin), erythromycin derivatives (Azithromycin / Zithromax).
Lymedin2010 - You said in an early post that you thought you had spirochete gallinarum. Is this a lyme spirochete?
Do you still think you have this type?
I have some pics of my blood now, and could forward some of them to you by email, if you think you could identify a couple of things.
I am computer-illiterate and do not know how to post on Utube or anything like that.
Not sure if the pics sent show this, but there were two short-stick (thin stick) with rounded ends like dumbbells, but not too much fatter than the stick. Not stubby in width of stick. Were yours stubby in width of stick?
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I would like to answer this better, but I am actually on a new protocol & herxing and feeling worst..yippeeee.
Here is the short answer.
The best & really the only definitive way to know is via PCR (Polymerase Chain Reaction). Basically, we use a small portion of the organisms & it's DNA and we amplify & and make millions of copies of it's DNA. Then it is compared to known DNA sequences & the exact type of bacteria can be identified.
Being that I cannot perform PCR, I look for best fit descriptions. I also look for something visual in the form of pictures, illustratiosn or videos for comparison. It basically acts like a mug shot when there are no other resources
I have pondered how to approach this on many nights & concluded that we must approach things like our forefathers where we give best guess hypothesis on observations. Then we continue to find evidence & research on what others have to fill in the gaps & come to a more clearer truth. Ultimately this is how truth is reached in many fields of discipline. In my case it has to be more so with limited resources.
When I was hunting for answers on Borrelia I could not get a complete picture of what I was seeing. It does not mean it is not out there, just that I had not come across anything that completely satisfied what I was seeing. I saw the blebs, cysts, various size spirochetes and the string of pearls. I also hypothesised that we could be multiple spirochete co-infected (different types of spirochetes in the blood) & always looked at multiple angles.
There was nothing that I came across that mentioned string of pearls or gave me a clear & cut PICTURE of blebs or how they formed. I knew before I even read anything on blebs that these things HAD TO come from spirochetes. Over the course of months I saw more & more of spirochetes in my blood & these dancing dots (blebs).
More sickness-->more Lyme symptoms-->more spirochetes-->TONS more blebs in my blood. I knew with all my being there was a correlation & especially when I saw what FULL BLOWN LYME patients blood looked like (from multiple youtube videos).
I came across this one website with information from a DOCTOR. This DR. was angry at other docs & even mentioned spirochetes coming out of White Blood Cells. I fell in love with this guy, since this is exactly what I saw in my blood. This even showed blebs (they called them coccoid bodies). The link may be in my old laptop now, but I did download one of his links to a pdf document & paper written by another individual.
A quick search for this document name & here is the link. Check the diagrams of the spirochete formation. http://lymerick.net/1912-01.pdf
At the time this doc & paper best fit what I was looking at. I thought to myself even if this was not exactly the spirochete, at least it gives us clues as to how other spirochetes function. Just like Alan MacDonald did between Borrelia & Syphilis.
The only trouble I had were these two. The cysts were not really mentioned & I assumed that he just did not focus on these & we all know spirochetes go into cyst mode. The other issue is that the spirochete drawing did not have bulbous tips, like what I have seen. I attributed this to artist drawing or the scientist trying to fit the spirochete to look more closely to what spirochetes look like.
All the older common notions of spirochetes are these aggressive & burrowing/drilling machines. What I see is more passive & go with the blood flow organisms. Perhaps that is what makes them so much harder to kill?
A few weeks ago I came across Alan MacDonalds videos & I nearly jumped off my chair. String of pearls, blebs , videos of passive spirochete with bulbous tips and with the title on the video that said "BURRELIA BURGDORFERI." This thing moves & looks EXACTLY like what I see in my blood. Now I can take what I learned from Gallinarum & apply it to know VISUAL proof from another Dr. or scientist & consider this as my most recent explanation of what I see.
I also think that one of the next important things we will learn is that the baceria is EVERYWHERE in the body & this will give more credence to contact transmission. Just because there is contact does not mean you will get Lyme. Look at it as if someone had just gotten bit & we know how differently everyone reacts. There are many other factors that lead to full blown Lyme than just getting the bacteria in your system. A simple enzyme or normal presentation of vitamins can keep it at bay.
Most people may have spirochetes in their blood, but they may not have all of the co-infections, metals, mold, or detox issues combined to cause complete disease.
Reportedly there are 3 types of Borrelia that can cause lyme disease: Borrelia burgdorferi, Borrelia garinii , & Borrelia afzelii. I would not bet my money that these are the only ones. This is the new uncharted frontier or realization for humanity.
I would be more than happy to look at your pictures, videos & even look at your blood if you send it to me. I have a lot more to say, but I will leave it at this for now.
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The spirochete shown in my dark field microscopy was also relaxed, long (not straight), some slight curves that changed, but definitely not spiral. And they ends (small, so might have missed some tail), looked somewhat bulbous.
I understand that the Bb go into spiral form mode when they are trying to move quickly. The spiral shape is for motility, to move faster.
Latest research (can't give link right now) shows that blebs somehow turn into small cysts and then form their dna into a spirochete that then leaves this form as a new spirochete in about 9 days.
There may be other cysts that are protective forms for the spirochetes too, when threatened. I'm not sure if that is an "also" or just older info.
Thanks so much for the link.
About contact transmission. If you have an active cut, perhaps that would be a source of contact Bb, but since Bb is mildly anaerobic, it would stay away from the surface of the skin, I believe.
I saw a picture of a test tube with different forms of bacteria in solution (still active and alive).
The aerobic bacteria were clustered at the top of the solution in the test tube, the completely anaerobic were at the bottom of the tube, and the Bb bacteria were about 1/3-1/4 of the way down the test tube solution, in a cluster band. So they stay away from direct contact with air.
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There is a BEAUTIFUL video of Borrelia releasing a BLEB on one of it's end. So it looks like the bulbous ends might have two functions.
1) Burrowing into cells 2) Bleb formation
Don't forget blebs can also be formed throughout the length of the spirochete in the "string of pearls" formation.
Look at 6:40 on this video, the link below will take you right into the scene:
At 4:12 you can see the one of many, many, many forms of the cyst. So many & depends on how big the spirochete is when it folds in on itself & how it folds in on itself. The longer it is in cyst form I believe the longer it develops an outer protective layer & fortifies itself. Looking more bean or slipper like.
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I made a video on how to create your own blood smears for anyone who is interested in seeing borrelia spirochetes. I made dozens of blood smears & it did not come out the best in this video, but there were some waiting on me to make one for a while now so I just hit record & did a quick one.
I was going to wait for upgraded equipment, including a tripod, but enough waiting. I will make a better one in the future & more borrelia videos in the future.
My Lyme brain won't let me get out everything I wanted to say & I am too tired to do another take.
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Bigstan, I would buy this one right away (first link below) & then search for alternate means to make videos. I have a Zeiss microscope & got mine for $100, but I waited for 2-3 months before buying, as I scouted Ebay on the perfect bid. Then down the line I replaced the binocular head with a trinocular & then bought a camera.
I use an Amscope MU900 9MP camera, but it leaves much to be desired. I think my next camera will be a Sony Nex6, which is a standard point & shoot camera with HD video capabilities. This will be placed with an adapter on the trinocular & the built in time lapse capture will be used.
I have finally done some time lapse work & found it to be more revealing. Things opened up that I just could not spot before & it is amazing how much is missed otherwise. I think I finally found free swimming babesia in the blood.
Now answer this question. Do you know why the tick was able to pickup spirochetes from the mammal when human observation of tissues & tests could not pick it up?
Because the spirochetes are READILY IN THE BLOOD!!!! Think about it they must be readily available for the tick to be able to pick it up & spread the disease.
Also, how many spirochetes must one have for a small tick to take a small random bite, such a miniscule amount of blood, & from anywhere in your body & pickup lyme? BILLLIONS & BILLIONS of them!!!!!
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When I first got into microscopy because of Lyme I had looked at Amscope microscopes as well. Just simply debating whether I should go with this one vs an older but true & tested model (like the Zeiss or Nikon). I have always been impressed with Zeiss lenses on camera equipment & so that it might be the best choice on a microscope.
There is another poster here (LymeTwister) who checked his blood with an Amscope. I don't see him posting anymore. I did tell him how to do it briefly, only he did not have the benefit of my slide video. I have an older private message from him & he says "Nothing would be moving on a smear after 24 hrs. Impossible ! "
I would imagine either he was not completely infected yet or by his comment that his blood smears dried up & as a result he could not see the spirochetes dancing around when this happens. This individual was a nurse & he made that comment, yet I am able to see my blood cells live after days & progressive exiting of spirochetes. I experienced the same thing though, in the beginning I could not see anything because my blood would dry up & by the next day it looked like a debris blood cell war zone.
Also keep in mind if the outside/indoor temps are cooler, then it will be preserved longer. I always have central AC running when it is 80 or above.
It was a learning process for me, but so easy for anyone to learn quickly once you tell them the details & what might have taken them a long time otherwise.
This lymenet poster bought an Amscope & he reported it was no good. He then called Amscope & reported this to them and they sent him another model that worked out for him.
My opinion of Amscope is that they are cheaper scopes & all depending which model you buy, it is hit or miss. I have their Amscope MU900 9MP video camera & it is the best option I have now, but it is a horrific camera overall. My old point & shoot cameras & cell phones take better quality video.
If there is any Amscope microscope that I would buy, it would probably be that one. Call them up & tell them what you want to do & tell them that you want to see the blood cells clearly. Also buy directly from them & if there is a problem make sure that you can exchange/return it for another one.
Microscope I use & I will make a video sometime this week.
-Zeiss Microscope "Standard 14" Laboratory Binocular Microscope: 47 09 14-9902/45 (Actual Microscope model).
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This guy uses the AmScope T490B. His images are at 10x & 20x (so 100x-200x what the eye can see). Video & images look better the bigger the object viewed is & lower the magnification. He does not provide us with samples of 100x oil (1000x), but based upon his lower mag slides, you should be ok with this microscope.
I like the adjuster on the trinocular, I wish I had that & you can see things smaller than I can. I can only go to 1000x, whilst you can hit 1500x & 2000x. Easy for me to get a 15x or 20x eyepiece & they are rather cheap. This higher mag is not always beneficial because of the VERY VERY narrow depth of field, but always nice to check & see.
Your biggest issue with this camera will be recording video, nothing to do with microscope, but the adapters & recording camera equipment choice.
Now look at video #1 & you can see how clear & beautiful the macro fauna is with his GoPro video camera. He has a DSLR video adapter on top of his trinocular port & just sits the camera on top...temporary setup for him.
Now look at video #2 & his first video as he shoots indirectly the video on his computer from the software. Horrific with the MU1000 (10MP Amscope) camera. Remember I have the 9MP version & I also have the same issues with my camera. The refresh rate & the AUTO exposure are HORRIFIC, it is like going back to when digital cameras were first invented.
You will end up using a cell phone & adapter or camera/video camera & adapter to get better quality video. If pictures tell a thousand words, then video can tell millions. I would stick with video recording if imaging & sharing is your intention.
To recap, I would take the risk on this EXACT model microscope, but stay far away from their cameras and be weary of some of their other model microscopes. Also, don't forget that your equipment will retain a certain value & you could resell for $150-$200 after Ebay fees.
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So I have been experimenting with time-lapse photography & it looks like since things move a lot slower that more info can be extrapolated/observed via this method.
Expand the video to the fullest, look at the RED arrow & then the spirochete burrowing into the WBC.
123 images taken 15s apart (123 * 15s) = A little over 30 min of pictures, so it took it that long to burrow into the WBC.
I actually took a break from antibiotics 2 days a go. The blood was drawn today. I allowed the blood to sit for 6 hours on the slide before the video was made. The spirochetes seem to come out of hiding after a few hours. I can only imagine they hide in the red or white blood cells like Lymedin2010 has also shown.
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Beautiful video & it is very clear cut what that is.
It is so funny that HUNDREDS of years worth of doctor experience can't tell us much & such a simple technique can be so revealing.
These things simply won't die. I honestly believe that certain cells do not allow for (or allow much) contaminants (ABX) within the cell, doing so would disturb the integrity of what it was designed to do....carry O2 to the rest of the body.
I am doxy dependent & if I go off of Doxy, then I slide backwards rather quick. What I have noticed is the spirochetes are more motile, they move around a bit more rapidly, when I am off Doxy.
I have done this off & on a few times to be able to say it with confidence. So Doxy does appear to inhibit protein synthesis, making it more sluggish, but does not kill it. If they are sluggish within your cells it may be a lost cause, your WBC never get to it to kill it.
The biggest impact to the spirochetes that I have seen is when on Doxy AND Penicillin VK. They appear to be more sluggish & just all bent out of shape and look very deformed. There are more quantities of smaller spirochetes & they too look deformed.
Some reports indicate an antagonistic affect between the two, but experienced LLMD's know from REAL WORLD lymie tests that they work synergistically.
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I agree, the damn things just wont die with conventional abx.
Btw, i used an old cheap Olympus binocular E-series microscope. Dark field up to 400x (and bright field up to 1000x immersion) which is good enough for clear recognition of spirochetes.
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WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have the recognition & attention of a well known Lyme researcher. This person sees the same thing in my videos & one of their students is trying to capture the same thing with the WBC's & spirochetes.
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One of your posts you mention treating from outside body with rife or led or lasers type things. Have your tried anything like that and looked at blood as a response. Curious
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I actually exchanged some information with someone on here that was not too far away from me & who had a rife. I could not wait to start testing on that actually & then at one point we lost contact. I don't think this person ever responded to my last PM.
The above testing I mention would be too tedious to do on the blood initially & directly. It takes time to prep, hunt, record, edit all the material. It is so much easier to do things for your own eyes, but at the end we don't exchange info & others don't learn anything.
I have seen so many more things, but I have no proof of it because I did not have a camera at that time to record it.
What I would first do & this requires more money & resources, is to buy BSK medium & culture the bacteria from my blood. Which means I also need a temp controlled refrigerator.
Then we can just focus on the bacteria & see how they respond to external stimuli (LED wavelengths, ultrasound, rife, & UV light....and my other one heat or maybe a combo of these). Even if one or combo methods work, it does not mean it will cure you. It will AT LEAST clear your RBC's & WBC's & let your body exchange O2 more easily, giving you a fighting chance.
Then the next set of experiments would be strictly on infected human blood externally. We treat with what we observed to work with just the bacteria & see how the human cells fair & the bacteria within cells. This part takes longer & that is why we do it in 2 phases. You may have to do this gradually too, all depending on how much of a herxer you are.
If successful we then we can focus on the rest of the body & other methods.
My other thought & what I could do right away is HEAT. This idea comes to me from the fact that many of the sickest people who recovered from Lyme also incorporated sauna, so then why not just heat the blood up. I heard 108 for 20 min should do the trick
Basically I could work with blood directly with this method. I would need something safe & sterile to contain the blood. I will have to make a video describing all this.
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I have though heat would work well but how to safely get body up to temp is the hard part.
I have been using cold laser for same reason to affect the cells and give them accelerated oxygen and also cleanse and detox and so the body can do the job.
I have a rife as well and led applications and Infared done for heat. The cold laser is most recent and has been getting to what others haven't or in ways they couldn't. It is rough due to herxes but as I treat I can see the herxes slightly less per area I treat each time. I know hope to change the terrain but who knows if it will put my over the line where the body can kick back in. They are smart and strong and resistant.
Your doing cool stuff. I wanted to get some equipment at one point and I just had too much going on.
I admire your hard work in this and posting it and reporting too. Would be cool if we could starting a bank of patients blood to post and just grow it so big nobody could ignore it.
Why doesn't one of these docs studying the blood just ask for us to send in blood. To do something at that level. We all would do it. Money I assume. But.....
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I am trying to get LLMD to do it. I spoke to someone & at one point they had that aha great idea moment. What happens is that LLMD's are sooooo busy & inundated with patient load & work that it is not feasible for them to do it. Not to mention some of them go to conferences, rally's & interviews.
I also mentioned that they did not necessarily have to do it themselves. The microscopy methods become rather robotic once you get the initial know how & they can easily pay someone minimum wage. Then it is just a matter of the one behind the scope hunting & hitting a record button. The doctor can then more quickly review a recap from the recordings & not have to spend a whole lot of time physically sitting down & hunting on their own.
This is another video I was planning on making to inspire & spark a fire for them to do so. This is also why I have chosen to add references from other docs or scientists to my newer videos to support what I see & give credence.
There is no doubt that what I see microscopy wise is continuation of infection & it is clear cut. Call it whatever organisms you want at the end, it simply continues to grow in number & pleomorphic forms. I can't believe to this day I am still discovering new forms. It is easy to show you one organisms or a few, but much harder to show you what I can barely find at the beginning of chronic illness vs continued infection and what shows up in the blood.
This goes back to what I said at the beginning of this thread. I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH THE IMPORTANCE OF DOING MICROSCOPY!!! It provides us insight into the guessing game & would provide immeasurable insights to those directly in contact with numerous Lyme patients.
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I have now captured borrelia coming out of a RBC & releasing a thin filament. There can also be seen other borrelia moving in the blood plasma.
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Good work Lymedin!
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Thanks.
Patient #2 is my wife & lately she has been feeling very tired. Always tired & tired and some sleep disturbance on & off. When she rests she feels better, but she quickly tires out & is nowhere near what she was. Gradually & over the years (as gradual as my progression was) she is becoming more like me.
I have also noticed her joints started to make some light noise & crackle here & there, where she never had that before.
I did not see this many spirochetes in her two years ago & I only saw a very few & mostly they were small ones.
She is like..."I don't have Lyme!." She does not like the outdoors like I like the outdoors & rarely goes. Me on the other hand I jumped into anything & everything. Not anymore though. Then she goes on to say "if I do, then you GAVE IT TO ME!!!!"
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You don't have to believe me on contact transmission, but listen to this NOBEL PRIZE winner on contact transmission. Just because you acquire the bacteria does not mean you develop Lyme right away though.
Lida H Mattman, PhD, has spent seven decades studying the different forms that bacteria can take. Her contributions to medical science can be summarized best by noting that in 1998 she was nominated for the highest honor attainable in her profession: The Nobel Prize in Medicine. Professor Mattman graduated with a M.S. in Virology from Univ. of Kansas and a Ph.D. in Immunology from Yale. She has taught Immunology, Microbiology, Bacteriology, Virology, Pathology, and for 35 years worked in these fields at various schools and institutions including Harvard Univ., Howard Hughes Institute, Oakland Univ. and Wayne State Univ. where she is Professor Emeritus. She is currently working for the Nelson Medical Research Institute studying the relationship between spirochetes involved in MS, Lyme disease, and ALS.
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Is it possible to examine your spit instead of blood. The idea of being punctured frequently doesn't appeal to me a lot.
I might be taking a microbiology class this summer. Perhaps they would allow me to culture my blood if that is available. Do you know what constant temp would be required?
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I tried viewing saliva once or twice, but deemed it too difficult to find anything, due to the mixture of debris, bubbles & the likes. It may also be that the saliva enzymes force the spirochete into cyst mode.
A high school or college microscope would be perfect for many, if they had access. You can obtain the slides, cover slip & oil on your own. Make your slide & go in with slide already prepared for viewing.
I leave my blood smears at room temp, which is typically 70-75 in my house.
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I went to a local community college today and spoke with the microbiology teacher about microscopes so I thought I'd do a rundown.
The school has a new science building with some new microscopes. There are bigger microscopes but the smaller ones are Olympus CX 31. Apparently this model has a blue filter but I don't know what that means. Anyhow, they were very pleased with the optics and with the microscope. Magnification is 1000x and a halogen light is used. They did not like the LED lights.
The teacher showed me how to do an oil inversion on a slide that I looked beforehand. She used a gram stain and put a drop of oil on it and the oil really made the bacteria stand out, kind of like 3D.
A couple of places where one might get a microscope for less money are Carolina Biologicals and Edmund Scientific. Another suggestion was that I might try to get ahold of a demo scope. Then they gave me the number of a company rep.
The teacher will try to get ahold of a retired professor who knows a lot about microscopes and see if he will speak with me. The guy has a lot of his own microscopes and he is in love with them and with microscopy. Sounds like just what I need.
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That is great!
That looks like a good microscope to be able to check for borrelia, just use 100x oil.
Stains are great for babs, bart & many other organisms. However, you do not get a high hit ratio most times. The more infected you are the better, but nothing compares to lack of stain.
So live blood on a slide, no stain, & oil. Some stains may prevent the bacteria from coming out of cyst mode or force them into cyst mode. What you want is to see them swimming in your blood, then you can clearly say AHA that is a spirochete and there is no confusion with fibrin or other string like substances.
I would prepare a slide before you go in, this way you give time for the spirochetes to come out. When you get there you can make another fresh slide, so that you can see both the few hour old smear & the new fresh smear.
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Has anyone seen Lymedin2010? Hope you are doing well! Hope things with you or your wife have not gotten so bad you aren't posting.
Good thoughts and concern heading your way!
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Hi TNT, thanks for the concern. I have not been on here for days. I have been out of my house after a mold outbreak that caused my lungs, throat, & nose to burn & I became toxic & ill.
I was looking up some new mold nose spray info today & by sheer coincidence found your post & IM here.
It had slowly developed & I was not aware why I was feeling worst & then I found the leak.
I planned on doing some great microscopy work & collecting new video proof, but instead my microscope is collecting dust & mold spores back at the house.
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Sorry to hear that. What a nightmare! I hope you can get it completely taken care of. I am much more sensitive to mold or anything toxic like that. Car exhaust is terrible; there are days I can't go in my laundry room even.
Thanks for taking the time to respond to my PM in spite of your circumstances.
Keep posting new videos once you get things taken care of and are settled back in. I am subscribed to your channel!
I had live microscopy done in Feb. by an amish man who supposedly has a lot of experience. He didn't see any spirochetes, but I don't think he did it with oil like you do, and didn't look at it very long.
He said I had low levels of candida, and there were crystal like things that looked like salt I thought. I did wonder if those were from him not swabbing my finger before sticking me. I didn't like him sticking me like that, but that day I was quite out of it.
Keep up the good work!
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Yea, me too. After this mold exposure my chemical sensitivity went through the roof & everything bothers me now & makes me feel more toxic & sickly.
Thanks for the positive feedback.
On another note.....WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO (look at the link below)!!!!!!!
This is exactly what I have been preaching all along & I cannot stress enough the importance of checking your blood via microscopy for Lyme patients. I have diagnosed my wife & simply by looking at her blood & observing the many few & subtle, inconspicuous and intermittent symptoms.
Doctors & LLMD's in particular can see your blood & know for a fact that the ABX that they are giving you are not doing squat if you still have many symptoms & are still questioning herx vs disease progression.
I also think that the future of Lyme will be in blood treatment. So one can use an IV line & let the blood be stored in an external container, heated & treated (with things such as ozone), dialysis type filtration & then transfused back into the blood stream in a continuous loop.
One can start out with small volumes of blood & depending on your responses, increase the volume to one pint, then one one quart at a time. This may not be a cure for all, but at least it will clear your Red Blood Cells & White Blood Cells & afford your body the opportunity to fight back. Otherwise the infection has hijacked your blood & if you cannot clear the blood, there is no way in hell you can clear it from your body.
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About the paragraph on Lida Mattman: that must have been written a while ago. She died a number of years ago, sadly.
The process that you describe doing with the blood being treated outside the body and returned via a circulatory treatment has been done quite successfully.
But it is not done in the US, and requires 2 medical personel and very specific equipment. It's called Reciruculatory Hemotherapy.
Anyone trying to do it in the US would be prosecuted, sadly, unless it is completely below the radar. And I do mean completely!! Otherwise, you're looking at jail----arghh!
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This is the best microscopy I've seen so far - and it's very important because it shows the borrelia are intracellular, inside the red blood cells. The string of pearls morphology is amazing to see, especially on the videos.
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Nothing Steven Spielberg could conceive of could outdo these films and photos for HORROR - all the more horrible because it's real.
Elena ps It seems that shortly after the British microscopist Peter Kemp published this web-page, which also contains a link to the excellent work of Norewegian researcher Prof Laane, further sabotage was done to the page in the medical journal which has Prof Laane's article.
The Professor had described in great detail a method for seeing Borrelia in live blood and related it to chronic Lyme borreliosis.
I think we need some kind of response to this defacing of his site and will write about that in a separate thread.
quote:Originally posted by Andromeda13: This is the best microscopy I've seen so far - and it's very important because it shows the borrelia are intracellular, inside the red blood cells. The string of pearls morphology is amazing to see, especially on the videos.
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Thank you to those who mentioned my page on intracellular spirochetes. There was a lot of luck in getting those results, but in general, observing spirochetes is not difficult with a bit of practice - as Lymedin and others have helped to show. I am writing a page on how to do blood microscopy with pictures and (hopefully) simple instructions. Will let you know when it's ready. Best Wishes, Peter
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I will have to look into Reciruculatory Hemotherapy & yes Lida Mattman has been dead for a while, but she knew a great deal & at such an early stage in the Lyme game & she was able to cure herself of Lyme as well.
Interesting that one can get prosecuted for this, yet no one has been sentenced for scientific & medical acts of crime against humanity and the misinformation on Lyme and stealth diseases in general.
This is a video clip from Under Our Skin 2: Emergence. A biologist from Oslo University (Oslo, Norway), Morten Laane, discusses his findings & observations.
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Those ARE great videos, BUT we will have trouble getting the non-believers to accept:
1) That spirochetes can appear less spiral & more docile in movement. The solution that they are in affects their ability to spiral or drill.
2) Accept the "String of Pearl" very existence. I have seen many morphologies myself, but have only seen the string of pearls about 3 times or so in the blood plasma (outside of the RBC's) & perhaps because this phase exists more readily within the RBC. My method of preparation & observation does not lend itself to ample strings in the plasma.
These great videos show mainly the string of pearl morphology & I wish they would show more of the standard spirochetes as well. It would be too easy for the non-believers to discredit these very important findings.
3) Accept that they are within the RBC & can be found so readily, especially in chronic infection. They would particularly find it shocking to discover the spirochetes in the RBC's after extensive ABX therapy.
Peter, I look forward to your microscopy instructions. I find the bulbous tips on the spirochetes rather interesting. It is almost as if they are similar to the pearls & are made of phospholipids that can more readily penetrate a cell wall. I have not witnessed the spirochetes burrowing out of RBC's any other way other than bulbous tip first & this may hold a key to controlling the spirochetes. Inhibit the bulbous tip entry/exit into cells & we can hope to control it more efficiently.
The resulting breakup of the string of pearls is the blebs. At times when the blood is left long enough, I see thousands of these blebs, which must have burrowed out of the RBC's. They must have similar properties & composition to the bulbous tips. Perhaps the bulbous tips are indeed blebs or modified blebs that remain?
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Thanks Lymedin. I haven't time at present to address all your interesting remarks, but there is one that I think is really important. In thousands of observations I've seen only a few 'corkscrew' spirochetes in blood. There are actually a few on this page from an experiment I did earlier this year: http://counsellingme.com/microscopy/ExperimentLgfont.html
The known morphology of spirochetes goes back over 100 years. I would be surprised if anyone who knows spirochetes denied that the videos show them, but it might actually help if they did; especially if they got their own microscope out of the attic!
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Thanks for your feedback. Actually I have been trying to contact the youtube user with those spirochete videos. If they are yours, then it appears I have been unknowingly trying to contact you.
Those are collectively the BEST photos & videos I have seen to date!!!
Prof. Laane's blood smear concoction lends credence that spirochetes behave more or less spirally in motion depending on the solution they are in. You & I both see the spirochetes readily in blood, but Prof Lanne's solution allows him to see them in their full spiral mobility.
He too readily finds spirochetes in Lyme patients blood, but when the general scientific community looks at this evidence, they are more inclined to believe when they see the spirals. The typical spiral behavior in blood is a notion we have to dispel & allow the floodgates that accept that chronic Lyme patients blood is inundated with less active (less spirally) spirochetes.
I would imagine when the solution becomes less viscous & more watered down, such as with Prof Laane's solution or BSK media, then the spirochetes assume their "typical" & widely accepted, but archaic movement.
Lanne has been met with resistance & understandably so, from a community designed to mask the truth.
Have you encountered resistance as well? I would imagine that the medical & scientific champions of Lyme see your work as God sent, while the opposition continues to follow suite at any cost?
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Thank you! I do get some supportive feedback from Lyme doctors/researchers, though I have yet to hear from any who think they are artefacts.
I think there are a number of reasons why the establishment Lyme people are against microscopy, and none of them are good.
Microscopy has the potential to show that the 2 tier testing system is completely useless. That would hit the manufacturers of test kits; who currently make claims for sensitivity and specificity based on how they compare with other kits that work in an identical way - which is completely crazy.
It would also harm the reputations of those who have claimed that the 2 tier testing is reliable. I suspect that these include people who consider their egos are more important than the lives of patients.
Microscopy might be able to show whether the new vaccine actually works. Vaccinated people might have antibodies, but they might also have spirochetes as well, due to borrelia's ability to evade the immune system.
These and other possibilities have patients asking why microscopy is not used more. Even if it were not used for testing, it could be used for testing other tests; monitoring the effects of treatment and learning about the behaviour of borrelia inside the body.
Conversely, there are no good explanations for not using microscopy. They may frown upon alternative therapists who use microscopy, and in that I am somewhat in agreement; but it is no reason to discard such a valuable resource entirely when the world is dealing with an uncontrolled epidemic.
Best Wishes, Peter
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