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Lymetoo
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Do you have a doctor [DUCK] who misdiagnosed you? Didn't diagnose you at all? Abused you verbally? Has no clue when it comes to Lyme?

Throw him/her into the Alligator Pit!!!

No names please...only initials!

Alligators LOVE ducks!!! [lick]

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Well,I'll make a go of it,since this STILL makes me so mad. [Mad]

I kept returning to my duck,same problems,knees hurt,legs feel like they weigh a ton,headaches.

He treated me for the 3week Doxy course and was satisfied I had completed ala CDC. [bow]

On one of the trips, into see this duck, I took a very concise and well written medical study.It covered Lyme basics and how the bacteria can actually go into CYST form,replicate and remain w/ you.Thus my pain,agony and pleas for help.That article really saved me,made me believe in the Lyme diag.

Dr. Duck glanced over the handout and proceeded to tell me,"I could have convinced myself of having a BRAIN TUMOR,after reading some of the journals while in med.school!" [loco] As if to say,hey stay away from my territory,that's only for qualified Med. school Ducks to read!!

He also noted on my file,patient feels like she is in the ozone.This of course was LYME BRAIN FOG!!!He blamed it on the pain meds.,which at the time,yes I was taking,did those pain meds. touch the pain of Lyme....NO!!!!!

I avoid this Duck at every turn,my hubby sees him and does a great jab job sometimes to make DR. DUCK feel special and oh so caring. [Wink]

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UP FOR MORE FOOD!!!

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hahah, this is great, thanks lymetoo, i needed a laugh.

I would like to throw duck AM and nuero duck B. thanks to both of them lyme attacked my bladder and i live in misery everyday.

Their diagnosis was ocular migraines........hmmm dont think that causes frequent urination.

stupid ducks [cussing]

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glad you resurrected this thread, lymetoo.

this used to be a very long thread, or am i thinking of the thread that said something to the effect of "whats the worst thing the duc, or even a bad "llmd" said to you "


back later to splice in some "good ones" into this thread.

no end/limit to the mental/physical sadism that these low-lifes will inflict. most often, the viciousness is deliberately so, and absolutely does NOT stem from genuine, but rather from calculated ignorance!

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I LOVE the Aiggator pit!...Can't we use their real names?..PLEASE ? PLEASE? [confused]


daniella [kiss]

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No, daniella, We don't want any lawsuits! [shake]

pq...Yes the other one was LONG. I think it got lost when the board changed last year. So I made a new one. Can't live without the Alligator Pit!!
[woohoo]

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in a few days i'll splice in what i've written up.
too bad the last one got lost.

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I know the last one had everyones details! It was sooooo funny.

a great way to let of some steam.

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I think we are going to need more alligators I have a TON of ducks to toss in. [Big Grin]

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Into the pit goes my gyn NP. Today she thought that seeing a 'calming specialist' aka hypnotist woudl help me with my anxiety during exam.

Hello...maybe for a non lyme patient....but i am in PAIN!!!! hypnosis isnt going to cut it.

im fed up.

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Here 'gators got a juicy morsel for ya, Dr E, who just hto't I was an uneducated dunce and he was 'god'. Geesh 'Doc' the Urinary infection had to come from somewhere,and you didn't even bother to check...

Well I don't have a full diagnosis yet,but it has never gone away...and my bladder is now 'worn out'and I don't find 'IC' one bit amusing. You could have saved me so much misery if you'd just checked a few things out all those years ago. Ducky meet yer due. [Mad] [Big Grin]

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Does the joke " it is hard to be objective when you are up to your [email protected]@ in alligators apply here?"
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Dr. G - stupid, rude neurologist who told me that I should just have a glass of wine and my double vision and vision loss would be cured. Come to find out it was optic neuritis! Thanks for nothing!
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Here, gator, gator, gator...

This is from about 7 years ago...

Duck K
Internist and complementary medicine, sounded like a good choice for a primary.

I go in for a sore throat... mention I have Lyme and he tells me he knows all about Lyme. He discusses Lyme with me for a while. Spills that he studied under one of the evil Ducks S..

Then asks me how come I know so much about it.

I answer that I've had Lyme a long time and have done a lot of reading. He tells me not to read so much! [Roll Eyes] [Razz] [Roll Eyes]

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Really good thread lymetoo. Thanks for letting us vent.



THE MORAL OF THE STORY


Here duck, duck, "I would like to invite you out for lunch for taking such good care of me," said Mr. Alligator.


" But Mr. Alligator, I am afraid you will bite me." Dr. Duck replied.



"Oh no, I would never do that", said Mr. Alligator. So Dr. Duck accepted the invitation to go out to lunch with Mr. Alligator.


As they were both enjoying a delicious lunch, Mr. Alligator held out a piece of fruit for Dr. Duck to try.


As Dr. Duck leaned over to taste the piece of fruit, Mr. Alligator bit off Dr. Ducks' Hand.


Dr. Duck was just aghast and screamed "why did you bite off my hand,I trusted you not to hurt me"!


Exactly my point Dr. Duck, now you know how I feel. [Mad] [rant] [cussing] [Big Grin]

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Has anybody been feeding this beast? he is starving!

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I'd like to re-feed the gators.

(since the old post is gone)

To the dermatologist / allergist in Somers Point in Southern New Jersey who gave me steriods 2x and four different antihistamins which I took for years.

I had chronic hives and was allergic to almost anything I ate. Also had explain weird rashes I had previously.

Gators you might want to take peptobismo before you eat this rich rich rich duck!

Please don't spit him back up again. Chew him to pieces.......... Hope you are hungry.......

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Dr P in Missouri who said in the long term I would find out that HE is right and my LLMD is WRONG.

I hate to tell him, but he LOST the battle on that one!! [Big Grin]

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here's some more food for the alligator pit:

I throw in one IFD duck,who 20 years ago, told me to go home and take vitamins.

Into the pit goes on neuro duck who said I had CFIDS. And let me suffer another 7 years.

Into the pit one duck who told me in the very beginning,even though I was getting better, to stop the abx -"it is confusing the picture."

I'd like to throw myself into the pit for being so stupid to actually listen to him.

Wow that felt good!

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Excellent job with the feeding tonight!

Sadly, I have a newly adopted gator who is very hungry and starving from his journey.

Please feed him, his name is Neptune.

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Here's one for Neptune or any other hungry gator.

When my husband was first diagnosed (by the Bowen test) and was being treated by our family doctor, and prior to our finding an LLMD, the family doctor suggested we see a neurologist about headaches. The neurologist had no knowledge of Lyme and sent us on to the Infectious Disease "Specialist". That DUCK waved the Bowen test results in the air and said, "I've never heard of these people, and I follow the Yale protocol for Lyme." He drew blood for a Western Blot on that Friday afternoon, after we told him that my husband was taking antibiotics. Of course the results were negative, so the DUCK said that there was nothing to treat. We later learned that blood should always be drawn on a Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday morning, flown to the lab, and that if the patient was taking antibiotics, it would produce negative results. On the second visit to get the test results we took DUCK a whole packet of information about Lyme, which I feel sure he trashed as soon as we left the office. Open your mouth, Neptune!

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Dr. PJ, an ER doc and close family friend, also the only doctor to whom I showed the residual EM rash, way back in 1989. "It's nothing," he said. "Leave it alone."

We are no longer friends so he is unable to confirm its existence. (My husband doesn't remember.)

In his case, we'll need a really big gator with an excellent digestive system to consume his huge ego and swollen head.

Then hold me back so I don't throw myself in after him as punishment for not having enough sense to go to a "real" doctor, IF such a thing has ever existed,

and for continuing to suffer with this IMAGINARY disease with no end in sight and for having to suffer through seeing all the other ducks who I foolishly consulted in the last 16 years. [Mad] [Mad] [Mad]

But first, let me line the rest of them up. . .

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I would like to send the office manager from my urologist office to the pit!!!

She told me today based on my age i am not disabled. That IC can only be diagnosed when mast cells are found...if they arent there then you dont have IC.

Not sure why the head urologist and the fellow told me i had the start of IC, nor why a hydro is done...if they can diagnose based on biopsy.

This gator better chew her up cause im about ready to drive to the office and do it myself.

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actually, i have a doctor who didn't treat long enough or understand lyme...but he was sooooo nice, it's hard to throw him in the pit....
but, here goes...dr. l. ----- nice don't mean much, no more!!!

this is me

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quote:
Originally posted by trueblue:

He tells me not to read so much! [Roll Eyes] [Razz] [Roll Eyes]

Well, at least he takes his own advice [Roll Eyes]

Have you heard this one? My family doc that I went to see while still experiencing those first few weeks of initial Lyme and showing him where my weired bug bite was told me I was sick because I was home schooling my 3rd grade son.

Sorry Dr W, you were so nice, but if you had just prescribed abx then, I wouldn't be permanently disabled now. So, off to the gators you go!

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Here goes my folks next door neighbor. He is a physicians asst. and did a test on me 'once', didnt 'know' where he sent it and didnt see how THAT made a difference.

Now when ever he sees me he says I "CANT" have lyme, I tested you, it failed(cdc standards), I read too much junk on the internet, dont read or believe ANYTHING you read THERE!!!

I copied Dr B.s guidelines so he could update himself and 'learn' a little. All he screeched (in his whiney little voice) when I gave it to him IS, """When am I suppose to read all THIS"""???

I wish I had told him, makes a good sidekick partner to the Budweiser(s) he snuggles up to every night. He is a VERY accomplished beer drinker!!! Can smell it on him 24/7. AND he has a great beer gut!!

Nice knowing you B., hope you dont make the alligator drunk with 'your' inner contents. Cant sicken the gators cuz I am still --just don--

PS> Do gators get lyme??? From swallowing it???

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Hungry alligators are waiting for more DUCKS!!!!!

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OOOOH, let me help!

1. Dr. A--neurologist, saw her twice, very full of herself, once I said "sensitive to light" gave me the quickest neuro exam ever and declared the problem was migraines. Would not even consider anything else.

2. Dr. B--talked to me for oh, about 3 minutes, handed me an RX for antidepressants and told me to go get some fresh air and sunshine.

3. Dr. W--diagnosed me with CFS and saw him for 3 years prior to getting tested for lyme on my own through Igenex. He refused to test me for lyme and when I went in with my results and my daughters (CDC positive) he got mad and acted like a big baby. Said "why should I treat you, seems like you got it all figured out"!

Need I go on??? [Eek!]

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Run,RUN AWAY,when you hear these words...

WAIT AND SEE!

Look at the children w/ tick bites this past week and the DUCKS say, WAIT and SEE.

Ya think they would wait and see about the mole on your nose?

This wait and see stuff has to stop.

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Dr. A ("A" as in ADMITTANCE to the ALLIGATOR PIT--for telling me that I was simply depressed. I had vertigo, couldn't walk straight, and high ear pressure

Dr. F--very nice doctor, but he said I would need disability, and then said he would never sign the disability forms, because he was not a specialist.

Dr. S--who refused to do the Lyme test because I had no symptoms.

The alligator should have a feast for awhile on these 3 of the 13 doctors I saw before diagnosed.

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Dr R.M. Rheumatologist. Briefly poked me in
several spots in my back, left me to freeze while
he took a personal phone call in the next room
for 35 mins, came back in to announce "There's
nothing wrong with you and you certainly don't
have Lyme disease (with a smirk and a shake of his head)".

Dr T.K. Rheumatologist. "Lyme disease? Who told
you you have Lyme disease?" I tell her name of
LLMD and she says "You had better go now as I
feel sick!".

There's 2 for the pit. Thanks doctors for not
helping me.

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Rheumies are great, aren't they! [shake]

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Have any of you ever gone to www.ratemds.com ? YOu can rate a doctor there. Try it.
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Here's another... Good therapy indeed!! [Smile]

dr's ratings
http://www.drscore.com/

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here is another one-

ME- i ate two arbys roast beef sandwiches and got what i think is a reaction....got a headache, flu like symptoms that lasted about a week.

Dr I- why did you eat TWO

me- cause im starved all the time and cannot gain any weight at all.

well, lets get a CT of your chest and colonoscopy...it could be lymphoma.

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What a fantastic thread!! I hope the gators are hungry!

Dr. C - primary duck who referred me to several specialty ducks. Had the EXACT same conversation with me a year ago when I first saw her for symptoms that she did a 2 months ago (and both times insisted I probably had MS). Apparently she couldn't read my file. Rolled her eyes at me when I said I wanted to be tested for lyme.

Dr. S - cohort of Dr. C, prescribed anxiety meds, antidepressants, ADD meds and therapy upon the request of my mother WITHOUT EVEN TALKING TO ME!

Dr. P - neurologist who, while generally sweet, didn't test my spinal fluid for everything she apparently should have. Also, during the procedure, couldn't get the **** needle in my spine!!

Dr. C - optometrist who told me that the floaters in my vision were nothing to be concerned about and would "just go away."

Dr. D - dermatologist who has treated my 'eczema' for years with hydrocortisone cream and cortisone shots

And I saved the best for last... enjoy dessert, gators.

Dr. D - UM rheumatologist who diagnosed me with fibromyalgia without doing a tender point exam, told me there was no disease with my symptom patterns and told me that everyone feels like I do from time to time.

*whew* That's kind of a load off!

[hi] so long, duckies!

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Wow!!! Looks like Ducks all over the country. I have so many I could toss, but the worst of all was my primary care physician.

Started out telling me I had Fibro, sent me for pain counciling, numerous neurologists, and another specialist that said I had Degererative Disk Disease and sent me for epidural steroid shots...

Then when I come back in and can't walk, I'm numb in parts and pained in others, trembling in my right arm, he runs a head MRI.

Tells me it isn't a stroke or M.S. Then asks me to do things like touch his finger with the hand I'm using to hold my self up since I had no balance ...

and when I end up on the floor, he gets angry, says my MRI if fine and there is no reason in the world that I can have neurological problems if my MRI is clean.

He told me to go straight to the E.R. to admit myself for physiactric analysis, and when my husband mentioned lyme, he says "I can't take this anymore", and walks out the door.

So he followed it up with a certified letter to my husband and a C.C. to me saying he was canceling my husbands physical in a couple weeks because it was obvious we don't respect his medical judgements.

Talk about a brain dead duck! Hope that Duck C. won't upset Alligators tummy! Better get alligator some Pepto Bismol for this one.

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quote:
Originally posted by tdtid:

He told me to go straight to the E.R. to admit myself for physiactric analysis, and when my husband mentioned lyme, he says "I can't take this anymore", and walks out the door.

So he followed it up with a certified letter to my husband and a C.C. to me saying he was canceling my husbands physical in a couple weeks because it was obvious we don't respect his medical judgements.

Talk about a brain dead duck! Hope that Duck C. won't upset Alligators tummy! Better get alligator some Pepto Bismol for this one.

Cathy

Sheesh! Poor gators!! [bonk]

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quote:
Originally posted by notcrazykate:
Dr. D - UM rheumatologist who diagnosed me with fibromyalgia without doing a tender point exam, told me there was no disease with my symptom patterns and told me that everyone feels like I do from time to time.

*whew* That's kind of a load off!

[hi] so long, duckies!

[Big Grin] [lol] [Big Grin]

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the worst and cruelest duck i ever saw was actually a psychiatrist, Dr. B. i was forced to see her, because my family committed me to a psych ward without my consent (long story -- this was when i was extremely ill with lyme and no one, not even my mother, believed me. they all thought i was crazy).

anyway, i was armed with my LLMDs phone number and my highly positive igenex results, but Dr. B could've cared less. she didn't believe chronic lyme disease existed, she told me i was very, very mentally ill and that i had convinced myself i was physically sick with lyme disease, and diagnosed me as 'severely delusional'; her exact diagnosis was 'somatic delusional disorder.' she put me on heavy doses of both depakote (i've never in my life been bipolar) and clozaril (a really intense anti-psychotic; when you're on this drug, you must get your white cell count tested weekly to make sure it doesn't plummet to a dangerous and potentially fatal level).

Dr. B. also refused me any of the lyme meds and supplements i was taking previously. she got the state court to commit me to six months in a psychiatric ward for my 'severe delusions,' and if i hadn't been transferred out of her care to another psychiatrist, she would have forced me into electroconvulsive therapy as well.

of course, her theory that i was 'delusional' was happily bolstered by an ID duck (dont remember his name) who gave me an ELIZA (came out negative, of course), asked me if my joints hurt, examined me for all of two minutes, and told me 'there is no way in hell you have lyme disease.' a true and admitted steere-ite, the worst of the worst. according to him, igenex is a 'quack' lab and all our LLMDs are 'quack' doctors. right.

so, added to the alligator pit:
Dr. B and unnamed ID duck, both hailing from the lyme-endemic state of MN!

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I have one for the pit
I went to my family doc with a bulls-eye rash and was given "the doxy 21 day cure".
He said that he wouldn't even run the tests for lyme because they were so unreliable.

WHAT ABOUT CO-INFECTIONS? That wasn't even brought up.
That was in June 06 and Aug.06 I had found a llmd and I tested positive for lyme.

"So much for the 21 day cure".

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Dr. F. Pediatric researcher,protector of kids.....

Stating Chronic Lyme is a MYTH!!!!!!!

Man -o man,if I could throw him in a pit.Maybe when he meets his maker,the pit will be available.

I'd like to send a pit bull over in someones direction. [lick] Yum, tasty,Years of suckin up and making those $$$$$,ala tax payers makes em extra tasty.Right Roxie,sweet pit bull.

Sure tell me what to say,I'll feed em the bait....Chronic Lyme is a myth..... [cussing]

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OMG!! Those gators have not been fed for several months now! Please make your contributions ASAP!!! [Eek!]

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We have plenty of gators in Louisiana as well as ducks to feed them.

Thanks to Dr. B -- told me I had post traumatic stress disorder, sent me home with paxil.

Thanks to Dr. L -- thought it might be CHF!!??? No evidence to support this.

Thanks to Dr. M --finally ran a Western Blot on me, along with about 15 other tests. She turned into a duck when she tried to dx me with diabetes, fibromyalgia, etc.

Thought that 6 weeks of antibiotics should cover me since I was her 3rd Lyme patient.

When asked about co-infections she said she had tested me. I have the results. No co-infection testing.

Thanks to the ER doctor--was very handsome, but sent me home with xanax and told me I should get a Lupus test.

Oh, by the way....I asked every one of those doctors to do Lyme testing on me as I had so many of those symptoms and rheumatoid arthritis and ana were neg.

I was told that I didn't have that, or couldn't have that as it is not in this area.

Hope those gators chew real hard.

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Didn't know about the pit! Woo-hoo! Here goes:

I push Dr. RS, who said that unless I had a bullseye rash and the tick who bit me, he wouldn't test for Lyme. Told me I had allergies.

I push Dr. BK, the ER doctor who told me I had mono and nothing more.

I shove Dr. BI, who was so stoned after a night of playing with his band that he couldn't keep his eyes open and they kept rolling to the back of his head during my examination. He agreed with the ER doc... just mono. I found out two weeks later that his practice was shut down and he was on probation for narcotics use. HE WAS STONED OUT OF HIS MIND! He served his probationary time in rehab and is practicing again. Just turned away two other friends with Lyme by suggesting they go to psychiatrists.

I toss the infectious disease specialist who told me "You probably have MS...but at least it's not cancer." That from a woman -- shame on her!

I toss the neurologist who said I had a pinched nerve that made my hands and feet numb.

I shove the internist who said that my ELISA was negative so my symptoms were stress.

I toss the opthamologist who said that like a fine wine, I was aging and that was why floaters and light sensitivity were occuring.

Can I toss in the internists who told me I had the stomach flu when I actually had a ruptured appendix?

Oh, and the list goes on! The gators must have stomach aches by now!


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WOW! I have to add to the above that this Alligator Pit is cathartic!

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quote:
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WOW! I have to add to the above that this Alligator Pit is cathartic!

wiserforit

That's the main reason it's here. From time to time, we bring it back up for the newbies. It's pretty awesome, huh??!!

I LOVED the way you pushed and shoved those folks to the gators. Hope the gators survived all those you shoved in there, because we have to keep them around for the next ones coming along!! [Razz]

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I'd like to shove in the female Pharmasist at CVS in Aberdeen in to the aligator pit.

She says my husband and I are the only people she has ever heard of taking long term antibiotics for lyme.

But before I push her into the pit I'd like to kick her @$$!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Mad]

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quote:
Originally posted by HEATHERKISS:
I'd like to shove in the female Pharmasist at CVS in Aberdeen in to the aligator pit.

She says my husband and I are the only people she has ever heard of taking long term antibiotics for lyme.

But before I push her into the pit I'd like to kick her @$$!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Mad]

Has she been living in a hole somewhere?? Now she's in the PIT!!! [rant]

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At LLMD's request, I had a local dermatologist look at what has become hundreds of blisters/bumps all over the tops of my hands and fingers. My skin is not sun burned, just itchy and bumpy...

I wanted to know if it was a Doxy skin reaction to rule out allergy.

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Derma Duck: How do you know you have Lyme?

Me: Positive Lyme tests, myriads of doctors, sickness for a long time, got a tick that bit me...

Derma Duck: But you've been on antibiotics way too long, you should be better by now. You aren't going to one of those wacky Lyme Clinics are you?

Me: No.

Derma Duck: How do you know you aren't?

Me: I've been through 23 doctors and gained enough wisdom from the experience to be able to discern which doctors are knowledgeable and professional versus the ones that only think they are....[I was practicing restraint...]

Derma Duck: Well there are camps that say...

Me: Yes I know. Camp A; Camp B. Which one are you from?

Derma Duck: Oh, me? I'm not in a camp. You have eczema.

Me: Could I have burned my hands driving while on Doxy?

Derma Duck: Oh sun won't hurt your hands on Doxy...

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AHHHHH!

Waste of time! Plus the guy was smacking this huge wad of gum in his mouth the whole time! Plus he looked like the red-headed mean-doctor on SCRUBS.

SO.... I suppose if the bumps are just on my hands and not all over my body, I should just continue the Doxy?

In the meantime, my brain is herxing like crazy and I'm dizzy and emotional...BUT...strong enough not to have dived across the desk to strangle the Derma Duck!

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Definately think that all derma's should go back to school to study rashes from the tick borne desease book of hell!!!!!!!!

Gators here are all our dermatologists old school books. They are probably over a hundred years old. Good fiber.

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To every duck, and duckette who ever left me as a confused 20 something year old freezing in a skimpy hospital gown, sitting on an exam table for 45 minutes, crying my miserable eyes out,

then had the nerve to ask, "What's the matter with you!?!," before handing my uninsured waitress pocket a bill for services...you are now LUNCH! [lol]

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Ah, my trusted and like-able Dr. Stephanie B. of Knoxville, who strung me along with FMS, put me on steroids over and over, pushed narcotics on me (I won't take them!) and most recently told me:

Lyme is a disease that people cling to when they need a big drama in their life. AND that there's no lyme in NC. She doesn't know what a herx is and hasn't studied lyme in 15 years (she admits this!), but she feels she can tell me that I have FMS and *nothing* else.

I really wanted to trust her, but this woman has shown that she would let me suffer and maybe even die before admitting she is wrong.

I'm sad to throw her in, but after today's condescending talk with her, I still want to.

I hope no one here ever runs into her.

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Heh, he looks pretty happy; guess she went down well.

He's still looking a bit hungry though. [Big Grin]

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Ok, True, I'll feed the gator -- had no idea this site existed!

The rheumatologist I went to for meds. He tried to undiagnose me. I already had a Western blot test with 4 positive bands, and a phenomenal clinical response to a month of clindamycin. And a remembered tickbite on my foot and 25 years of symptoms.

He sent out for an ELISA and it came back negative. Good news, he sez, you're negative. I told him it misses much of the time, and besides, the 2nd line on the sheet said a negative test result does not rule out Lyme.

BTW, I don't like to call a doctor a doctor if they're unwilling to recognize Lyme disease. I call them a mister. Or a ms, I guess.

So would I call a duck a muck, then? Mucky duck. Ducky muck. Mock duck. The possibilities... [Big Grin]

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hello gators!
brought by some duck with a bunch of side dishes !!

Thanks dr. d [my son insists on calling you Dr. Death for reasons we cant go into here] for making patients wait WEEKS[sometimes months for those pesky patients who wouldnt just go away] before you would order a test or even give a much needed meds.
You couldnt even give a simple antibiotic to a kid who had a raging fever and an obvious infection from a bite unless the mom threatened an ER trip.
You KNEW he had lyme but gave his naive mom every reason in the book as to why it wasnt. Thanks to your greediness my son has had to grow up not knowing what its like to not have pain everyday.
I wont even go into what you did for me or a dozen other people we knew.
I hope the kick back money was worth it to you!!

To the insurance idiots who thought the kick back program was a novel idea.......in you go!!
To the insurance execs who make treating patients next to impossible and for all the hell you gave our beloved Dr. G in Pa...the extra shove!!

Enjoy the feast my gator friends as I am sure there are more to come!!


Sincerely,
a ks mom who wont give up!

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Heh, he looks pretty happy; guess she went down well.

He's still looking a bit hungry though. [Big Grin]

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Lymetoo, that's CROFL(cat rolling on floor laughing)
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Ok,

I'll feed the gator the first dermatologist ... who blinked like an owl in daylight when my first response to his steriod prescription was to ask, "but what if I don't want to take those?" As if I couldn't possibly question his recommendation!

Oh, how I wish I had followed my intuition and avoided all the damage done!

Happy eating, dear gators!

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I've got another gator for y'all. his name is Frank and he's STARVING!!! [Big Grin]

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Hey Frank! You look mighty hungry!
You are closer to DC than I am....run over to the FDA and start chomping on those regulators that want to take away our rights to vitamins and supplements!

[duck disease seems to be pretty prevelant over there and needs to be eraticated! [Big Grin] ]

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quote:
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....run over to the FDA and start chomping on those regulators that want to take away our rights to vitamins and supplements!

Ditto!!

Robin, You're right about that green kitty!! [Big Grin]

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Dr. W.
Dr. S
Dr. A


& many more. one was a pediatrician, one was neurologist, and one was an infectious disease doctor. i'll message you their names if you need them so that you don't go to them and risk not being helped.

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Dr. W- said I wanted to become an anorexic,was depressed, and I had gotten a girl pregnant...
Dr. D- said I had a migraine and was not happy with my life
Dr. R- said I was depressed and needed to go eat
DR. H- said I had post viral syndrome and will eventually get well
Dr. V- said I had chronic fatigue syndrome, was perfectly healthy just depressed
Dr. H- said I needed a girl friend
Dr. B- said I had west nile virus
Dr. P- said my lyme test was bogus, lyme doesn't exist, gave me a pain killer and said go to school
Dr. A- lyme doesn't exist, need to take advil and a anti nausea drug everyday

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Per my post on 4/24/07:

J.C. - USC (Southern Cal) ID Dept. Avoid at all costs, unaware Bb has cyst form. Claims to have treated LD in NY.

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oh frank......got another morsel for ya!

dumb duck just called and is all happy that the test [ELISA] came back negative.

waiting for the rocky mountain spotted fever test to come back. apparently the ELISA can test for both lyme and this??

told her I knew the lyme would be negative.
asked her about the CBC panel.

she is waiting for them to call her back with those numbers.
[apperantly they dont READ that nugget of a blood test anymore]

dumb duck.

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quote:
Originally posted by ks mom:
dumb duck just called and is all happy that the test [ELISA] came back negative.

OH yeah. That's peachy keen!! /Surprise, Surprise!! [Eek!]

Thanks, idducksrdumb!!

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Adding BIL's DUCK to the Alligator Pit. BIL is a hunter, found a tick on his skin. Tick was engorged. He got a rash. DUCK told him he doesn't have Lyme.

Apparently this DUCK is psychic because without one single test, he knows the tick didn't carry Lyme, he knows that the rash is not Lyme related, and he knows BIL will not develop symptoms.

DUCK never saw the tick. DUCK practices in a Lyme endemic state. A state heavily populated by deer.

This DUCK deserves to go into the alligator pit!!!!

Kayda

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Should the doc who first treated me be thrown to the 'gators? Well, I'm not so sure. He was very good for many things; it's just that most docs are kind of conditioned to believe ducks from certain, ah, ..'well respected'... institutions.

Thus it's particularly tragic when one of those ducks loses sight of real science and insists, with the assistance of certain elements of the corporate dictatorship, and to the detriment of thousands of of patients' well being, that he is right, and that everyone else is wrong.

It takes courage to do anything right. Many "LLMDS" have that little extra bit of courage; we should be very happy for thaT.

But maybe an alligator pit is a little severe for those ducks that are simply a little to yellow bellied to question the "powers that be"... On the other hand, many patients are suffering.

But if a doc goes too far the other way, patients may suffer then, too. It's a hard gig, to be sure, but not without its compensation, which, for the moment comes way too much off the backs of those who can least afford it! But I digress...

DaveS

(breaking up the post for easier reading for many here)

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