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Energetic testing does not rely on the immune system's recognition of the bacteria.
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I've been out the whole day, I'll get back to you all soon.
I don't mind to see different subjects popping up, as they all look interesting!
Bob, can you ask one more thing with your biotensorSSS?? How do they compare to a simple PENDULUM?
I once read that they are very similar, the only difference is that it is easier as you can do it faster in a shop while the pendulum needs the person to be totally static.
As for you guys doing SANUM, it is, I think, a long term treatment(about 9-12 months of treatment).
It needs almost more time than killing borrelia and coinfections because it is BASICALLY a matter of changing the milieu, while with borrelia and coinfections, we still can put most of them DORMANT without changing TOTALLY the mileu.
What is fantastic with these products is that only one or two KILLERS test a day, never more. Then you test again in a few days, the killers change totally. And they keep changing almost forever.
Now I'm again back to Mycobacterium tuberculinum bovis (sp?), it causes me an AWFUL skin infection with swelling, exactly like it happened two months ago.
I wonder if adding light (LW or Bionic or Photon Wave), if the treatment will go MUCH faster, as Gigi is suggesting. I mean, she is still treating her husband for mold and mold toxins, so he's still not done yet either.
Bob, I am trying to buy monolarin too, but I don't know if my pharmacy will find it.
CONGRATULATIONS for the ones WITHOUT active borrelia!!
Thanks Six to say dr. W. tests with the Bicom machine.
for the people testing supplements or whatever, test if they GO where they should go. I get blockages ALL THE TIME specially when infection or inflamation is bad. I ask: 'is this herb going to my fingers NOW?' and the answer is NO many times.
I know homeopathics of HIGH dilution usually don't get blocked like herbs and supplements, they reach all over. I think because they are pure 'energy'. But these Sanum products are low dilution, and they DO get blocked.
I wonder if light treatments don't get this type of blockage that all ingested things get. If you people that got a light machine could ask the biotensor, it will be useful to know.
If light information goes to all parts of your body (specially the parts that are symptomatic), it can mean a lot, in my opinion. I AM curious to know for both the Bionic and LW (or other light devices).
Ask your biotensors which accupuncture point is blocked and you usually find where. Then you massage the point (or tap it) and the substance just reaches where it should reach.
gotta go to bed. I'll get back to your posts another time!
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Thanks for the suggestions Grace, I'll have to look into that.
Problem is, without the sleeping pills, I do not sleep for more than an hour or two. I have not actually been on them for more than a year, and I do fine switching between Ambien and Lunesta.
I believe I need to work on coinfections before I can wean totally off them. I was almost off them completely during bartonella treatment, but within a couple months afterward, I needed them again, so I'll work harder on getting off them once I treat co's.
I feel fine during the day even after taking the sleep meds. I'm glad it helped you so much getting off them. I'll look into those natural products.
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Angelica, I have done Sanum homeopathic injections into the gums twice. It did help tremendously, but did not solve the whole problem just by two rounds of injection and two or three homeopathics.
It was probably the most painful experience I have ever had, except for other deep dental work without ansethetic, even including childbirth. I have no experience with cavitation work, as I opted out of that choice.
Continued work with homeopathics, lightworks, and Sanum is continuing to make progress for me on the dental issue.
Six, have you thought about phosphatidyl serine for help with sleep? It is a cortisol moderator/reducer. I used to not sleep when my cortisol was too high. (Now I have to put some back in.)
Brussels, thanks for allowing the topics to flow all over the place here. Let us know if we need to refocus.
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Bejoy, when my cortisol was tested, it tested low, so you still think that would help?
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Six, honest answer is I don't know. But here's what I think:
It depends what kind of test you had and when you had it tested.
Cortisol is supposed to be highest between about 7-9 am, low from about 3-6 pm, and lowest from about 1-3am, as I recall.
For some reason, when people get adrenal fatigue, their cycles switch around, and they can get low cortisol much of the day, and high cortisol that really kicks in around 9pm.
Many of us end up staying up too late because that's the only time we have energy to get anything done, and then that continues the fatigue cycle.
So if you had a blood test done between 3-6pm, it might be showing low cortisol, but wouldn't be showing what your cortisol is doing at night.
I find the saliva tests to be more accurate, because they sample throughout the day.
So in my opinion it is possible that you have high cortisol at night that could respond to adrenal support supplements, including phospatidyl serine.
If you don't want to buy another supplement, soy lecithin has some of this in it, and you can add it to your protein shakes. It could help.
I've also heard of people getting better sleep from taking extra L-Tyrosene, but if you drink lots of whey protein, you probably already get plenty of that.
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I just wanted to ask have your cortisol levels tested low since starting the bionic treatment or do you know if it was low before? Also did you have a blood, saliva or urine test for your cortisol levels? What are you taking to support your adrenal glands?
Just to let you know that phos serine is used for high cortisol, its not recommended for low cortisol as it will lower cortisol levels, but if your cortisol levels are low in the morning but high at night it is a good thing to take phos serine at night to help you sleep and to help bring your cortisol curve back to the normal rhythmn, if that makes sense?
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I don't recall if I had tests done for adrenal issues. I do have the typical adrenal type issues as mentioned - ie: feeling bad in the AM & better at night.
I had a hard time sleeping for a while & had bad insomnia. I was taking Ambien for a while which helped but I didn't want to become dependent on it. So, I stopped.
Since I started the full Cowden protocol back in April (I think), I noticed that my sleeping cycle got much better. I still stay up late, probably, more out of habit now. I've always been a night person.
I think it was the Nutramedix Adrenal Support which helped. I'm doing the full protocol so there may be a synergistic reaction between the other tinctures but the Adrenal Support is specifically for the adrenals.
(PS - in case people want to know... I'm doing the full Cowden protocol now until we move. I needed to take something to keep working on the Lyme from getting worse without incurring a major herx or something unexpected.
I'm going to go back to experimenting with the LightWorks after this is all over with & we are settled in a new location - which should be sometime next month.)
Thanks to everyone who is posting their results with the Bionic 880 or other infrared device. We need to keep gathering info so we can upgrade the treatments for everyone. (Everyone who is interested - that is...)
I know some people are sticklers about going to see a doctor who is qualified but not everyone has that option. By sharing your info & treatment - we can all learn &, hopefully, work on getting well in our own ways.
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I just read an interesting article in the site that sells monolaurin.
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Bacterial Spreading Mechanism Identified
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Byron's Comments: An imporant clue in the nature of bacterial infection.
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Study Title: In decision to grow, bacteria follow the crowd.
When it comes to the decision to wake up and grow, bacterial spores ``listen in'' to find out what their neighbors are doing and then they follow the crowd, according to a new report in the October 31st issue of the journal Cell, a Cell Press publication. Although there is still a lot to learn about how this process works, the discovery could lead to a new kind of antimicrobial agent that works not by killing active bacteria, but by keeping dormant bacteria--which typically resist traditional antibiotics--inactive.
The researchers show that the spores of a soil-dwelling bacteria can sense the presence of so-called muropeptide fragments released from the cell walls of other growing bacteria. Those muropeptides act as powerful germinants, stimulating the spores to exit the safety of their dormant state and make a go of it.
As other bacteria, including those responsible for diseases like tuberculosis and staph infection, harbor a version of the receptor responsible for this ability in the bacteria under study, the researchers said they think the mechanism they've uncovered will prove to be universal.
``[From the bacteria's perspective,] dormancy is a great state,'' said Jonathan Dworkin of Columbia University. ``They are invulnerable to antibiotics. If you keep them in that state, you can't kill them but they don't grow either. Antibiotics usually kill bacteria by preventing some essential process, but if an antibiotic instead kept dormant bacteria from emerging, it would be essentially like killing them.'' They'd be stuck in a state of suspended animation.
In the new study, the researchers found that muropeptides derived from cultures of growing cells stimulate the germination of dormant Bacillus subtilis spores. Diverse bacteria can serve as the source for those muropeptide molecules, but the key is a single amino acid ingredient, they found.
The spores ability to receive the signal depends on a eukaryotic-like Ser/Thr membrane kinase receptor (PrkC). Indeed, a small molecule known to stimulate related kinases is sufficient to spark the activity of the sleeping spores. Another small molecule called staurosporine, which inhibits related kinases, also prevents spores from activating in the presence of muropeptide.
Dworkin noted that the immune systems of animals recognize the presence of foreign invaders in a similar way, by detecting chains of muropeptide (called peptidoglycans).
`` The recognition of peptidoglycans is central to innate immunity,'' he said. ``This shows that bacteria do a similar thing, but for different reasons.'' His team is anxious to understand the details better to make the comparison to the immune system as ``there may be deep similarities.''
In addition to the promise for a new type of antibiotic medication, the news may stand to benefit the food industry.
Bacterial spores are also a significant problem for food preservation, Dworkin said, because they can withstand heat sterilization. ``If the food industry could find ways to control spore germination, that may be just as good as killing them,'' he said.
### The researchers include I****a M. Shah, Columbia University, New York, NY; Maria-Halima Laaberki, Columbia University, New York, NY; David L. Popham,Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA; and Jonathan Dworkin, Columbia University, New York, NY.
Study Information: In decision to grow, bacteria follow the crowd. 2008 October
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Bejoy and all on Sanum:
the mucor racemosus and aspergillus niger treatment will go be going for a lomg time for most of us, I think. They will wax and wane with other pathogens, I suppose.
For me, the change on products is felt in a matter of days, so I don't know how you guys without testing kits at home can do to improve fast. Very similar to lyme and coinfections treatment, but products change faster.
Dr. K. suggests about 9 months of treatment is required to control yeast / candida / fungi with Sanum.
Bee venom ointment, I had at home but I didn't test good for it (bought one in dr. K.'s institute). I tried to use on muscle pains in the latest borrelia awakening, but it just didn't work for me. What worked better for muscle pain and killing of borrelia there were essential oils, like peppermint, eucalyptus and Farahs' recipies...
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Bob, your PM box was full! thanks for the monolaurin site, if I don't find it here, I'll buy from it to try.
did you compare your two biotensors? I wonder what do you think, sincerely....
---- Grace, congrats on sleeping well! Hope to see you then in Feb!
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Sparkle,
My naturpath can test L-forms, don't know about blebs... But my doctor says, testing for herbs or killers for borrelia and cysts is more precise than muscle testing these borrelia or L-forms themselves. Meaning, if I test for Samento or Noni, I have lots of chance that I still have active borrelia or cysts testing.
But no one will ever know for sure in any type of test. Dr. W. still asks patients to come back to keep borrelia in check. So not even the Bicom or any device can be 100% acurate.
I wouldn't worry too much about that. I know I have zillions of dormant stuff inside me. Even things coming from my mother, I keep discovering things one after the other with these Sanum tests.
Specially on the Polysan series of remedies.
So I don't expect to get rid of everything, all the zillions of critters and antibodies. I just want my body to take a rest to fight continuous infections one after the other for decades, be them borrelia and coinfections, parasites, or in my case now, a series of candida and fungi.
I suspect I fell so sick with TBIs so fast because I have been fighting multiple fungal-candida infections for decades before.
I guess (just a guess) it is AS DIFFICULT to get rid of borrelia as it is to get rid of mucor racemosus and aspergilus niger forever. Levels can fall down, critters get dormant, but they will eventually come back.
We can't just think that full elimination of everything is possible. For me, I'll consider my war won when these critters get dormant for longer than 1 year, without continuous treatment. I'm still far from it though...
I just read that mycobacterium tuberculosis bovis becomes symptomatic in immunosupressive people, the example is always, e.g. HIV positive ones... Well, I have it active again. I suspect it became active during lyme. Lyme is gone, but Myc bovis not...
so borrelia is not all our problems...
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given how you serious you think mucor & asp. niger are, would you mind giving me some input on why mucor didn't test at all for me, and asp. niger was much lower on the totem pole than asp. fumigatus when I was in germany and not showing up now either? Of course, i'm using the biotensor to ask right now. I'll ask my muscle tester to test for these too just to verify.
fyi, I was able to move onto heavy metals from Candida with the bionic after 2 treatments. Granted I may have to return to it later, but that's def shorter than I predicted given its severity
-joey
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Selma -- mailbox is receiving again thanks for the heads up
Anyone been concentrating at all on liver function. Many of the treatments we apply depend on a healthy liver. After getting rid of many of the main pathogens and feeling much better. I've been concentrating there.
I'm curious if anyone has honed in on liver function as a whole. If the liver is putting out enough bile it aids the immune system to function normally.
When your peeling the layers of the onion, the liver is an organ to pay quite a bit of attention to!
I think as an after bionic treatment is to do a liver clease. Insure the biliary tubes are clear and functioning. Many of the supplements and food we eat may contain dioxins, pesticides, fungicides, herbicides, insectacides not being cleared by the liver due to congestion. The bionic or any good LED might help in the process of healing and reinvigorating the liver. I'm guessing due to the work of NASA, we know cellular creation and regeneration is stimulated with LEDs.
Just trying to make sure the liver is a priority in everyones thoughts. It is the main detoxification organ, and if its not doing its job sufficiently it affect the kidneys, bladder, pancreas and thymus ... and possibly the thyroid. Not to mention the immune response when pathogens are creating havoc.
Since I've been concentrating on the liver my metabolism is improving. Gee, I wonder if there is a correlation?
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after the bionic treatment, many of our livers test for blockage--along with kidney and lymphatics according to ART and tensor testing.
I take the pekana big three detoxification kit religiously after treatments. Since I was without it today, I tested for burbur immediately after treatment for heavy metals.
point is, absolutely bob. And it's my strong opinion that the bionic is not sufficient for detox. It's a "push" therapy, so it stimulates immunity instantaneously & also regulates hormones, but in the process sems to gives the detox organs too much pathogen die-off & released toxins to handles unless we have considerable liver, kidney, & lympathic support in place.
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Bejoy, I had the saliva adrenal test spanning the whole day. Mine were pretty fatigued across the board.
I do take a lot of whey protein. I've tried various natural things - 5 HTP, L- Tryptophan, Valerian Root, Melatonin .... all of them together, LOL .... and they just didn't work.
I am getting by now on a little less than I was. Hopefully that will get better as I get rid of other infections.
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quote:Originally posted by shimmy: Hi Sixgoofykids,
I just wanted to ask have your cortisol levels tested low since starting the bionic treatment or do you know if it was low before? Also did you have a blood, saliva or urine test for your cortisol levels? What are you taking to support your adrenal glands?
I have not had it tested since the bionic. I had it tested by saliva in the beginning of Lyme treatment. I am guessing it's better now because I'm awake in the morning and sleepy at night for the first time in years. Hubby teases me about being a morning person now, LOL.
I'm not taking anything now during photon treatment except the bare minimum - iron, mag, thyroid and my sleep meds. I did feel the need for some adrenal support the other day and took Xymogen Adrenal Essence.
quote: Just to let you know that phos serine is used for high cortisol, its not recommended for low cortisol as it will lower cortisol levels, but if your cortisol levels are low in the morning but high at night it is a good thing to take phos serine at night to help you sleep and to help bring your cortisol curve back to the normal rhythmn, if that makes sense?
Yes it does. Thanks.
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Hi Bob. It was interesting, all of us who ART tested in Germany after the Bionic tested positive for a sluggish liver .... clogged liver .... can't remember the term.
I ART tested that burbur would help the problem. I also tested that I really liked coffee enemas (shocker, LOL). So, I'm still doing the enemas a couple times per week and using the burbur as I remember (it's harder to remember now that I'm not taking much).
I've always felt better with the enemas, which are great for the liver. I also take whey protein to be sure I have the building blocks for glutathione production, which is stimulated by the enemas.
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After you guys get done with the liver cleanse. You have some rebuilding to do. Especially organs, you'll want to test for rebuilding and strengthening the liver and the kidneys. Milk thistle is one there are many others.
One area which I'm working with is the end of the spine with bee venom ointment, farahs oils, and an MSM cream. Test for it a week after all cleanses had finished if you've had any leg pains. Do it as long as you test for it. It will remove some of the inflammation.
Good luck with the house cleaning...
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Yes it does sound like your adrenals are improving from what you say, thats really interesting and great news. I have the same problem I am tired in the morning but more energy at night and last time I had my saliva cortisol measured it was below the chart! So it will be interesting to see if my cortisol levels improve too once I start treatment.
From what I read the photon therapy is also supposed to normalise cortisol levels if they are too high or too low but I guess as it is getting rid of the infections the adrenals should start to function properly just from that.
Thanks again take care,
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Joey, I'm not sure what it means, but it seems that these two critters are on the top of the chain, meaning, when you start seeing them as the main focus of treatment, you'll be going direction end of treating fungi-candida, according to Sanum.
If you still are not concentrating much on them, it probably means you got other things to clean before? I guess it's a bit like borrelia, when you start to concentrate only on borrelia on normal treatments (NOT with the Bionic), it probably means that's the last critter to treat in tick born coinfections. The others are dormant already or dead.
At least, that's what I understood from dr. K's view. And that is EXACTLY what happened to me quite a few times and few reinfections. Borrelia was always the last of the critters to get dormant (sometimes together with bartonela, in my case). I attacked borrelia all the way, but one by one, every coinfection gets dormant, but still borrelia is there. Until there's only borrelia to treat. Then it's finally gone too.
I am not sure if this is true for asp niger and mucor racemosus, though, but it is the way Sanum treatments are described. I'll see if I find some info in the internet.
It seems that when finally the level of these two critters fall or get under control (that are usually the last ones to go according to Sanum), the person is then healthy. Not before.
I repeat that I don't know yet if this is true, that is just how Sanum people think of disease / health.
And they do include treatment of precancerous phases, treatment of tumors (they think of any good or bad tumor as being usually caused by pathogens, if I understood well, usually of yeast and fungal origins)... so I guess when they say 'healthy' means something in a much higher level than what we usually think of healthy.
Guys who developed Sanum products they have loads of lab tests done and lots of papers published...
I'll get to you all later, as I have some work to do.
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I had terrible problems to sleep, but mine were mostly due to high load of infections. After entering on Buhner and dealing with babesia, I guess my night terrors finished and so insomnia...
JOEY, do you mean, you are testing free for ALL candidas and heavy metals after 2 treatments? It sounds too good to be true}
Do you use Burbur often? Are you also on chlorella and milk thistle?
BOB, yes, definitively, the four main systems to look into are liver, kidney, intestines and lymph. I-m taking a combo of 10 Chinese herbs for my liver about 4 times a day, since I started on this combo, Milk thistle never tested anymore. I feel my liver loves it better.
Does Burbur clean loose heavy metals MORE than the duo chlorella + bear garlic? Can anyone compare?
So far, I could never spend more than a day in the last years without chlorella and bear garlic tincture... They test a few times a day and prevent herxes.
I start wondering how burbur would compare to these cleansers...
As for cavitations, I took them off more than a year ago. As I told before, Xrays showed nothing, but when the teeth were pulled out, they had plenty of infection seen by a naked eye.
My dentist, who was the 4th to take xrays and confirm he saw nothing on them, was soo surprised to find pockets of pus under my pulled teeth. I wonder what ozone injections could do to bad infections and if the effect would be long lasting...
When did you get your ozone Bob?
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Selma -- I had it all done this year by a very good biological dentist. He said my TMJ was very bad, this was based on experience and energetic testing. He used enegetic testing via ART to determine the location of the injections. In the years he has been doing them, he's only had one he had to retreat. Ozone is fabulous for treating cavitations in my opinion.
The last one he did caused me to have lock jaw for about 8 weeks. It was very toxic, it took a great while for me to get my jaw working normally. Years of way to much amalgam in my mouth caused part of the infections. Sometimes you have to suffer a bit for the treatment to work as we all know.
Right now I'm working on viruses. Just a lot of noni, mangosteen, lightworks treating with blood.
Viruses are interesting critters, we sometimes inherit them. Lyme somehow creates an environment in which they thrive. So getting rid of them is a bit of challenge. I suspect the bionic would do an outstanding job of it. I think GiGi pointed out in other posts to use live blood.
I feel like I'm getting at a very good point where I don't test to need binders of any kind any longer. My own body is now able to detoxify on its own.
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Selma- I might be mistaken but I'm pretty sure Dr. W told us two of the vials were live - both German and American strain. I don't how that works but I do know they don't leave his office with the other vials we bring home.
Ocean and Angelica - thank you for the kind words regarding my granddaughter. I've been out of town for a few days, hence the late thank you.
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Hopefully those two vials never get opened!! Posts: 7545 | From The 5th Dimension - The Twilight Zone | Registered: Mar 2008
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Look into page 2 of the article above, it explains a bit the cycle of diseases as seen by Sanum people.
I don't know if this is totally true, but there had been lots of scientific publications based on the works of Enderlein.
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Nana, thanks, I will try to test them then!
I just kept wondering how does dr. W. keep them alive in his office or if he cultures them somewhere or buy them fresh all the time? That's why. I'm just wondering. I'll certainly 'ask' the vial myself when I get there!!
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Bob, funny you were on Noni. Me too, it helped me NOW like a miracle once more, that was the missing herb for my Mycobacterium tb bovis. Now it's going into dormant again, I am waiting for the next client then to show up! I'm just wondering who...
What I find wonderful with Noni is that it tests strong for a few days, it solves the problem then it just stops testing and I don't test for it for very long, until it shows up again as a life saviour!
Viruses getting alive, I also had that on and on again....
Is it only me or everyone on DAILY energetic tests CHANGE treatments (amount or herbs-supplements) every single day??
thanks for explaining about ozone
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quote:I think GiGi pointed out in other posts to use live blood.
It is not a good idea to use your own blood unless you know what you are doing and can test well. Dr. W. warns about using it. Common sense tells me it may contain substances that I am not aware of and that I would not want to treat at a certain time or the body is not able to deal with at a certain time. Medical intervention may be required -- he warns.
The original bacteria that is applied together with the different potency nosodes of Borrelia burg. are an energetic copy of an original sterilized bacteria of afzelli and burgdorferi. This is my understanding of it.
When metals move, viruses are released. That is my understanding.
Take care.
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I concur with GiGi in that I am not planning to treat with blood for quite awhile.
I think a good analogy is having an army (photons) and telling them to go complete a specific mission (a nosode) or just telling them "hey fix every problem that we have identified" (blood).
The soldiers (photons) then run in all different directions and are not coordinated in what they are trying to do in the body. In the end, I think a focused, targeted attack is the most likely to produce a clear result.
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Treating blood seems to be my final step. I've removed most of the infections, I test negative for almost all things lyme, metals, candida, fungi, yeasts, pesticides, chemicals, herbicides, fungicides. I'm going to try it for a couple of more days working with the tensor. It basically leading me in that direction.
I don't test for binders, feel very untoxic right now. There are viruses we've inherited at birth. Some of those become active or are trigger later in life.
I used my own blood last night with the lightworks for 1 minute on each accu point. It was all I was allowed to do.
What other precautions should I be concerned with. And thank you for the concern, I wouldn't want to be too hasty.
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no i didn't say that i'm testing free of metals. candida is not the main problem now, metals are. Again, who knows what will show up after I'm done treating the metals. i've treated metals 3 days in a row, and the tensor tells me to keep going.
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quote:Originally posted by NanaDubo: Selma- I might be mistaken but I'm pretty sure Dr. W told us two of the vials were live - both German and American strain. I don't how that works but I do know they don't leave his office with the other vials we bring home.
That is why only doctors can have them in Germany and only Labs that meet certain qualifications can have them in the US.
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Joey, do you treat heavy metals in the exact points used in treating borrelia?
Did you get these heavy metals vials here in Germany (the box with about 20 vials or so?).
I was thinking to do a metal detox with the BIONIC before going to dr. W. I wouldn't like to spend loads of money in the vials of metals, but I guess I have to. Then I could just go to the practioner I talked who could borrow his Bionic to me and do it by myself with the heavy metal vials.
I just don't know where to apply light.
As for the solar plexus, I've seen so many differnt locations for it in the internet, I wonder if this is on the upper part of the belly button, on the belly button exactly, or below it or somewhere else totally different?
I think I can trust my own muscle tests and I am sure I could do a trial to detox metals before seeing dr. W. to treat me for borrelia. I'll be sure to get a box of MSM before though as I'm deadly afraid of floating metals.
Could you please send me a PM or post here if the points to apply light are the same as dr. W. used for borrelia?
are you 'herxing' loads on flushing metals off?
Thanks for any info.
---- Thanks Gigi for the answer, I think it sounds more credible to my brain, that he uses imprints of borrelia ( a bit what someone here said, Bejoy??), and not live swimming critters that need to be fed!
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Selma, three finger width's below the bra is where the vials go .... so when you do the place below the vials, it is barely above your navel.
I am also waiting to treat with blood. Dr. W told me that when I finally do treat with it, to start at 25% power, see how I react, then a few days later, try 50%, and so on until 100% power.
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Scott, thanks for the explanation, the image of how the Bionic works looks a bit clearer to me!!
How would you treat then, for example, candida albicans with the Bionic? With a testing nosode with real candida inside (but dead), similar to what the homeopaths call the 'mother tincture' or only with energetic or frequency imprints (similar to what Bejoy posted some time ago?).
Could you send me a PM if you don't want to share the info here? Thanks again.
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Six, great!!
So it's on the stomach point for the Chinese- exact middle point between belly buttton and stern bone (Sp?). Exactly where dr.K. tests for stomach!
Well, one problem is done then! Next are points to use light for detoxing metals...
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I don't have PM enabled. You can email me directly Brussels. Thanks
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Hey Bob- Please be careful with the blood. Dr. W told me the last person who insisted on using it to treat babesia wound up in the hospital.
You're one of the few people on here who I can chat with about the Red Sox so I'd appreciate it if you stayed well!!
Sounds like your feeling really terrific and I'm so glad!!
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Thanks nanadubo and GiGi for your concern. You are such good friends.
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I treated babesia and erlichia yesterday. Went well, still feel good today.
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Does anyone here know if Gold is a safe material to use for dental work- my bio dentist says most everyone tests well for it? thanks, JL
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Don't use gold if you have any amalgams, it can cause a galvanic reaction which makes the mercury release even more from the amalgams into your system.
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The consensus has always been that more people are allergic to gold than to other metals. Melisa are often present at Dr. K. conferences. I was highly allergic to some of the gold alloys and so was my husband. These reactions are often not discovered until troubles start and/or disease sets in. All had to be removed for us to survive. Any allergic reaction to any of the restorative materials in the mouth put the body under immense stress constantly.
You may want to explore the Melisa website - you will find a lot of information.
It pays to have any material and the combined materials tested before installation before you spend all that money and before it is too late.
Take care.
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My update on light and nosodes:
Currently clear of Bb and symptoms. I've seen this twice before, so I don't trust it permanently, but I'll keep a close eye on it. I hit it pretty heavy with long Lightworks sessions and LYM in a vial over the last two weeks.
Currently I'm on nosodes for a strep and two fungals. I test for treating with those on alternate days.
Seems I need plenty of work on mycoplasma still, but I have yet to locate the exact culprit. There is always time...
Also got diagnosed with Hashimoto's today (autoimmune thyroid.) I got a homeopathic preparation made from a test vial for it, and will treat for it as for an allergy elimination by lighting the gates and spine. Makes sense in my mind. We'll see what happens.
In addition, I am learning more about the specific genetic markers that inhibit some people from eliminating certain toxins. Looks like I probably have the markers for difficulty with sulfur.
So as for my use of MSM, I will need to add some products to encourage the sulphur elimination, or risk build up. I'll post more on this as I learn.
I'll be away until next week, unless I come up with network access. Have a good one.
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NutraMedix Sparga for sulphur elimination
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How are you feeling Six? Hopefully herxes are under control??
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I use gold, I tested bad for almost all gold alloys, except one recommnded by my doctor.
There's no pure gold so I guess there's lots of problems in testing the other components in the alloy.
So far, no problem.
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I'm feeling great! Thanks for asking. My next flare up isn't due till next week, so hopefully that will be reduced since I'm treating babesia now.
I'm in the 90% range. I feel no symptoms really, just a little dragged down (very little), but that could be still recovering from this cold .... it seems to linger for at least two weeks in non-Lymies.
I am sleeping about 9 hours per night .... I was only sleeping 7-8 hours .... don't know what significance that has.
The irises of my eyes have changed dramatically since I started photon treatment. If you know anything about iridology, the scurf rim is disappearing (it's an indicator of toxins). Even my kids can see the change, so it's quite obvious.
I'm not really having herxes from treatment anymore.
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Six, it sounds promising!! I hope you are dealing with babesia really and no herxing with babs treatment looks like a dream for me. I had the most awful herxes ever with babesia!
Maybe you are just tired due to cold? If you can sleep 9 hours, great. My daughter wakes me up everytime the same time, so I can't. I envy who can sleep longer!
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Bejoy, sorry to hear about Hashimoto... I guess all lyme sufferers get problems with the thyroid in a moment or another. Have you looked into babesia ? I know babesia affected my thyroid most than other critters.
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