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Six, great news that you are doing so well. I wonder if your increased need for sleep is because your body is in repair mode?
Even though the bugs are gone, the damage they have done is still there and the body needs to do a lot of work which is mostly done when we sleep.
I was told that when major changes take place that the body requires a period of adjustment or "settling in" as it processes a new way of functioning.
Does that make any sense?
Thanks so much for your continual updates and honesty. The body's ability to heal through the use of photons is very interesting and I hope more research is done on this.
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Selma, yes, babs herxes were always horrible for me, too. I think that when the Lyme load was taken away, my body dealt with the babs a lot on its own. The first week or so in Germany I had bad sweats every night and hadn't had those in a while. Since I've been back, even before babs treatment, my air hunger has almost completely gone away.
I am treating it just to be sure and because I am still flaring two days per month, even though the flares are not significant anymore.
Fortunately my kids are a bit older so they don't have to wake me up before school. The younger ones prefer when I wake up at 7:30 so I can see them off, but I've been sleeping till about 8:30 lately.
It could very well have to do with the cold. I'm not as dragged down from it as I was, but I still have a horrible cough, so it's still not 100% gone. I was so scared Lyme symptoms were coming back, I asked my husband about 1000 times - "Fatigued is normal for a cold, right?" He'd assure me, yes, you feel sick when you're sick, LOL.
It could also be healing. I had thought of that looking. I seem to be doing a lot of detoxing as well. Some of the sinus problems could be detox I guess. Also, I tend to stink sometimes, LOL, so my skin must be detoxing because it's not normal for me and I do shower every day! I have some skin rashes and breakouts, too.
All in all, I feel great! I've been busy and able to keep up with everything I'm doing, and still cook dinner for the family in the evening.
I've had several people tell me lately that I look different .... mainly that I look like I have energy. One told me that she saw me at church before I went and I looked like I wanted to give up .... then she saw me when I got back and I looked like I had energy and was happy.
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Six, hope you are feeling better from your cold. Anyway, it sounds great you didn't herx too much from babs so far!
For you people treating with the Bionic (or LW) at home, I wonder if once the treatment is done (example, babesia, candida albicans) for a couple of times with nosodes, if anyone had to retreat the same critter again.
My question goes for difficult critters like mucor racemosus and other candida species. Has anyone seen these difficult to eliminate critters coming back again ? Or they really go after a couple of treatments like borrelia goes?
As I'm only treating with the normal homeopathy-herbal approach, I continue on the eternal cycle of treating one bug, seeing another in waiting line, then another, then the first one shows up again and so on.
Another question to all who do energetic tests is concerning jojoba oil rubbed on skin (or in the gums). It tests as a good detoxifier and as metal chelator. After rubbing it on my soles or cheek, or on my tummy, I feel extremely relaxed, the skin gets sooo soft (the flesh gets soft). If anyone tests it, I would like to know what you will find about it.
Thanks for any info.
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For those who have done the bionic treatment, have any of you been retested in blood work to see if the antibodies for Bb or other viruses are still present after testing negetive energentically for Lyme and co.? This would be good info for other LLMD's to have when evaluating the treatment's efficacy for those of us doing the bionic.
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Thanks, Selma. One of my kids was just complaining the other day how this cold was lingering on and I'm finding the same with me. It didn't drag me down though.
Sorry LP, my LLMD goes by symptoms, so no additional tests were done when I got back.
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You coordinate the purchase through the practitioner when you get there.
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I've done some blood work after returning and initial results look very good. I will post specifics in a couple of months if the trends continue.
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quote:Originally posted by SForsgren: You coordinate the purchase through the practitioner when you get there.
Yes, this is what I did. It's the easiest way.
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Cash, bank transfer, credit card.
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As far as co-infections go:
The "protocol" for Rife therapy (using sound i.e., frequencies) recommends to run a "general program" FIRST to rid all old vaccines and other common infections that most of us encounter before running the lyme frequencies (although 432Hz is included in the list and is run initially for ONLY ONE MINUTE).
Which makes sense. The numerous pathogens within us are all competing for OUR nutrients.
I think the pertussis vaccine is very/especially problematic.(DPT vaccine). (You can request this part of the vaccine is NOT given to your kids.)Research it.
I would "equate" this with removing some of the "enemy soldiers" until we can truly REACH/get at the "leader of the pack", destroy him, and then process HIS toxins
IF you chose to go the "Rife route" (which looks to be effective, but not AS fast as the far infrared therapy).
Our liver and kidneys can only handle so much so fast. When pathogens are destroyed, these 2 organs have to process the "toxins" released.
You WILL shut down your kidneys if you "Rife" too often, too long, too fast.
However, most Rx. antibiotics can, and do, destroy most pathogens (and so do our OWN antibodies!) if given the "ability" to do so (which means we need sufficient nutrients to MAKE our antibodies).
We are "microbe hotels". The germs far outnumber even our own cells. Some are good and needed, others are bad.
432 Hz (Rife frequency) looks to equate to 632nM (color wavelength) which looks to be the color red - compared to the "more penetrating" far infrared, 880nM.
I think this also is why sending frequencies thru an argon light (blue gas - for depth of penetration reasons!) is "faster". These are the much more expensive Rife units.
There are some very strange websites when one tries to compare/understand the relationships between frequencies (Rife - Hz) and color wavelengths (far infrared 880nM and others). For example:
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For what is worth, I think those who have journeyed to Germany for treatment and have graciously shared their experiences with us are heroic and a blessing. Please let NOTHING stop you from posting about your insights.
Know that many of us are following your posts with respect, keen interest, and so much gratitude to all of you.
Please remember that there will always be naysayers about anything. That is just the way of mankind. However, it is through sharing of ALL experiences that may help us to find our own pathway. Hopefully each of us will find a treatment that will improve our quality of life.
There is no right or wrong. Everyone's unique chemistry can respond differently to all treatment.
If one treatment approach worked for all then none of us would be here praying and searching for possible options.
Keep posting, and thank you for sharing your experiences with us!!!
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Jam, nice to know other people are reading about these light experiments!
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Marnie, thanks for your insight and tips on B6 and Mg! Are you a Rife user or use any 880nm light instrument?
For certain, killing-only is not the way, I'm with you! Thanks for remembering us that the number of our cells are inferior to our 'guests'cells '!!
I know I'm full of living creatures, that's no doubt. And full of antibodies of bygone critters, and some create symptoms too. I start to see myself as a CEO of my own zillions of cells plus my guests and the garbage they left (or my garbage)! At least, I'm trying to be the CEO, but they don't always follow!!!!
Bb is not my problem for the moment. I'm still fighting other unwelcome guests though.
I think the Chinese have something to teach us too, with their crazy theories of dampness, cold, weak Qi and so on, so I started balancing my diet on that recently. Meaning, not only eating healthy (as I had done for years...) but eating as therapy.
I'm having very positive results with Chinese mixes of herbs for different things for quite some time (balancing the liver, balancing my eyes (!), elimination of stuck fluids), plus accupressure... Their knowledge on plants always amazes me.
The Bionic or other ligth devices used in Chinese meridians to transport light made me also think of these end-points of meridians as chanels to go deeper inside us. I guess not only light, but also substances can be pumped in through these 'holes' (moxibustion has done that for centuries).
Energetic tests always showed me how these 'holes' are open to receive, for example, essential oils. I am, for example, now treating both toxins and pathogens through these holes on my belly (rubbing tee tree oil and jojoba for cleaning). During lyme, I was also rubbing oils on a daily base, and they helped me immensely in the toughest times.
Killing is certainly the easiest part of any protocol, in my opinion. I have said that before, even when my lyme was active. I guess, to find a good killer takes me 2-10% of my time and treatment, the rest is the real treatment! It's massive.
I guess though, when lyme and co-infections are active, we have little time available to do other things than killing and fast symptom relief. At least, that was my case.
Now that lyme is not active again, I have more time to do the OTHER parts and concentrate on absolutely everthing I ingest or rub, on foot baths, exercising, balancing meridians...
That could be the good point if people after the Bionic get rid really of borrelia. They could then go then for what is important.
I'm delighted to see that Scott is out of abx after so many years on them. That all of those dozens (or hundreds, in his case! ) of supplements and treatments before couldn't help him to wean from abx as the Bionic did. It's in his site, betterhealthguy.com for the ones who would like to read.
Let's see how everyone will react with the time though. I guess 6 months after treatment would be a good period for everyone to make a report on their condition. Hopefully, some of you will still retest with Igenex to 'show' in numbers what their progress meant.
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Brussels, your comment about bygone critters - absolutely!
They do produce symptoms of their own as the dead ones recirculate. How to get rid of everything - takes time I guess.
I can trace back to the last route canal I had done and see the real noticeable decline in my health. Thinking about the ones I had that were even older makes my skin crawl!
They are out now and I think my immune system is already saying thank you but still having to work extra hard to deal with that mess.
So yes, the process continues. Knock out lyme with the bionic and then keep cleaning up the mess. Thankfully biophotons can help with that too.
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quote: I know of one Brit has been to Germany too and has reported positively on her treatment
If this report is from Debbie on EuroLyme then she is identical to Nanadubo here on this board.
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I have been following this a little bit and was wondering...is the bionic supposed to kill all of the lyme, including the cyst form? I am assuming yes but you know what assuming does! Thanks for everyone's time.
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Jen,
The answer is "NO"! The bionic 880nm kills no bacteria at all.
But are all forms of lyme eradicated from the body. The answer is "YES"! The bionic works by revitalising the cells that are dysfunctional. Once the cells are functional again, the cell has it's own defense mechanism and will expell invaders such as the cyst, l_form, spirochete forms of lyme. Once expelled the cell has its own immune weaponry call nitrous oxide and will kill the invader. If the invader somehow gets away it is spotted by the immune system and thumped.
So it is the immune system doing the killing, the bionic with the nosodes identifies the invaders.
Here's another thought, use MMS/freeze dried garlic combo plus the bionic instead of nosodes. MMS and freeze dried garlic are the killers and the bionic expels the bacteria. This approach might just get bartonella and lyme simultaneously.
We still don't know enough about the weapons we have right now in how best to get rid of pathogens.
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Dr W believes that most supplements negatively impact the photons and in some cases, takes the patient of all of supplements. Others may continue based on his guidance or testing. In my case, I did not. I stopped all except thyroid and melatonin. So it is hard to say if MMS and garlic with photons would be good or not but I suspect that photons without nosodes would not work nearly as well.
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I suspect when Dr W. put his protocol together he needed to create a predictable environment with in each person he treated. Supplements deviate that environment in extraordinary ways. I believe MMS wasn't on the horizon when Dr. W. created his protocol. I also believe MMS is an extremely powerful lyme killer. However, I don't think MMS gets at all forms if hidden inside our cells or tissues.
When the LLMDs can up to speed on all this we may have some brand new protocols to think about. So, I believe that light and the right supplements might also erradicate lyme instead of using nosodes.
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I have to agree with Scott.
The light works on a different level than the supplements. The nosodes are the "roadmap" for the immune system. Without the nosodes, the immune system might not be directed to the Lyme/bart at all. Light works on an energetic level. Supplements on a chemical level. One is chemistry, the other physics.
I understand the thought, but the two might not have a synergistic effect.
Of course, it is all speculation for all of us.
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As with green laser treatments, dr. K. uses supplements too, but what works FAR better are homeopathic preparations. With green laser, the effect of homeopathy is somehow increased and he says the body absorbs more than if ingested.
Maybe because homeopathy is not chemical (except for being water)...
I tried many times using rizols or other normal supplements with green laser, no, I prefer to ingest them.
I haven't done much homeopathy though to compare...
With the Photon Wave too (light frequencies through the eyes), what became 'standard' now are using nosodes with light, not chemical substances.
so the practioner tests patients for certain forms of mercury, for example, and uses these nosodes on a plexi-glass in front of the light that will reach the eye. Same as with vaccines, borrelia nosodes, etc...
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NanaDubo, if you are able to test pathogens in the root of your teeth (even the good ones, that once got amalgams...), you'll be amazed to see what you may still find.
Thanks for the article. We pay for dentists to make us sick, we pay again for them to correct what they did...
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I think this scientist was the first to research the idea of using biophotonics with homeopathy:
There are many aspects in homeopathy and other energy medicines that are poorly understood by science.
This paper deals with the use of biophotonics to give a probable explanation about the modus operandi of homeopathic medicines.
Starting with the understanding that all living organisms are 'energy bodies', the author has discussed latest research findings in the field of biophotonics, kirlian technology, memory of water, bioluminicence and piezoelectric phenomenon to give a new understanding about energy medicine and transfer of 'therapeutic' information through homeopathic remedies and other forms of energy medicine.
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After I started using infrared light - I didn't feel the need to use much supplementation. I stopped almost everything for a couple of months.
Maybe it's good to alternate? Periods of time using the light & homeopathics with periods of using supplements? I don't know. I have to experiment with it further.
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Has anyone had depression lifted or gone after using the bionic 880 ? Would love to know how any of the neuro symptoms are after treatment.
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Up for lymeparfait...
---- Another very interesting company producing ONLY homeopathics for detoxing. HEEL.
I'm using only one of their products, called Ubichinon, and having amazing results... I'm taking it orally, not through injections (as recommended by my naturopath), but it still works well. I wonder how these products would work with photon therapy..
I first heard of Heel through my ART practioner. She combines both Sanum and Heel.
Heel looks wonderful for detoxing, they do have a complex 'theory' behind their products. Nothing to do with classical homeopathy though.
HEEL= Herba est ex luce (Plant life derives from light).
HOMOTOXINS: are all those substances (chemical/biochemical) and non-material influences (physical, psychical), which can cause ill health in humans. Their appearance results in regulation disorders in the organism. Every illness is due therefore to the effects of homotoxins. Homotoxins can be introduced from the exterior (exogenic) or originate from the body itself (endogenic).
HOMOTOXONS: These are chemical reaction products from compounds of homotoxins with each other or with other substances (e.g. products of metabolism) which neutraliye the poisonous property of the homotoxins. The best example thereof is the liver, in whose cells homotoxins and metabolic products are united to detoxify the organism.
RETOXINS: Deposits of homotoxins with endogenic substances, which cannot be elimiated via excretion or irritation, are designated as 'residual poisons' (retoxins). The most important example thereof is the non-enzymatic glucosilisation of tissues and cell surfaces in case of glucose excess, as with, among others, latent diabetes mellitus.
HOMOTOXICOSIS- The concept of Disease in Homotoxicology Homotoxicosis is a non-physiological condition which arises after reaction of a homotoxin on cell and tissues. A homotoxicosis occurs as a humoral or cellular appearance and can be followed by morphological changes on tissues. The homotoxicosis is named after the homotoxin which triggers it. The homotoxicosis leads to defensive measurs of the organism whose goal is to elimiate the homotoxins and to restore the physiological conditions when possible.
THE GROUND REGULATION This refers to the local regulation possibilities of the ground system along with its superimposed nervous, hormonal, and humora regulation systems. The ground system is composed of the ground substance plus cellular, humoral and nervous components. The ground substance (extracellular matrix) is formed of highly polymerised sugars (proteoglycans and glycosaminogycans) plus structural and meshing glycoprotgeins.
THE PHASE THEORY (I'm typing this by hand, please go see the original pages 5-7, as I can't copy-paste this PDF file. ) How people fall sick in 6 phases (starting point is toxicity, if I understood well).
--- The one I'm taking is UBICHINON compositum:
The unblocking of enzymes or metabolic chains is effectively achieved by the administration of anti-homotoxic catalyst preparations such as COENZYME Compositum in alternation with UBICHINON Compositum. Both preparations contain a significant combination of vitamins and co-enzymes as well as intermediary products of metabolic cycles providing energy in the homoepathic dilution D6.
These preparations act on the molecular level on the mitochondria and assist the organism to regulate the intracellular, energy-supplying processes once again. The potencies between D6 and D10 are substitutive and can reactivate metabolic dysfunctions in energy-supplying cycles by substitution.
Because every severe diease, which no longer possesses any self-healing tendencies, is coupled to dysfunction on the level of energy-supplying processes, a concomitant, possibly intermittent administration of these preparations is indicated in all cases, as frequently confirmed successfully both in human medicine and in veterinarian medicine.
---- MOLYBDENUM COMPOSITUM: With molybdenum, zinc, iron, cobalt, cerium, manganese, copper, nickel and rubidium combined with sulphur and phosphorus whcih both possess a strongly stimulative effect particularly on mucous membranes and tissue cells and which belong to the so-called reaction remedies in homeopathy.
The above-mentioned trace elements are present as salts in lower potencies between D3 and D8. In these ranges, these trace elements no longer have toxic effects, but have a purely stimulative and/or a substitutive effect. These elements catalyze several enyzme-dependent reactions. As is well known, particularly molybdenum, copper, nickel, zinc, manganese and cobalt are elements which are essential for certain enzyme complexes, that is these enzyme complexes cannot function without them.
All 3 COMPOSITUM preparations containing catalysts, minerals and trace elements are indicated for all chronic diseases connected with energy deficits such as chronic fatigue syndrome or for diseases caused by old age.
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Composition: Injection solution: 2.2 ml cont.: Ubichinonum D 10, Acidum ascorbicum D 6; Thiaminum hydrochloricum D 6, Natrium ribroflavinum phosphoricum D 6, Pyridoxinum hydrochloricum D 6; Nicotinamidum D 6, Vaccininum myrtillus D 4, Colchicum D 4, Podophyllum D 4, Conium D 4, Hydrastis D 4, Galium aparine D 6, Acidum sarcolacticum D 6, HydrochinonumD 8, Acidum alpha-liponicum D 8, Sulfur D 8, Manganum phosphoricum D 8, Natrium diethyloxalaceticum D 8, Trichinoylum D 10, Anthrachinonum D 10, Napthochinonum D 10, para-Benzochinonum D 10, Adenosinum triphosphoricum D 10, Coenzymum A D 10, Acidum acetylosalicylicum D 10, Histaminum D 10, Nadidum D 10, Magnesium gluconicum D 10 22 �l each.
Indications: Stimulation of toxin-defence functions for the purpose of restoring blocked enzymatic systems in cases of enzymatic dysfunctions and degenerative diseases (cellular phases).
Contraindications: Do not use during pregnancy or during nursing.
Side effects: None known.
Interactions with other medication: None known.
Pharmacological and clinical notes:
Acidum ascorbicum (Vitamin C) Co-factor for enzyme functions (redox systems)
Thiaminum hydrochloricum (Vitamin B1) Co-factor for enzyme functions (oxydative decarboxylation)
Natrium ribroflavinum phosphoricum (Vitamin B2) Co-factor for enzyme functions (flavoproteid and redox systems)
CoIchicum (meadow saffron) Gastro-enteritis, muscular and articular rheumatism pericarditis, endocarditis, scarlanital nephritis; as adjuvant in neoplasm phases.
Podophyllum (may-apple) Pancreopathy with spurting, painless diarrhoea; cholecystopathy, colitis, haemorrhoids, adjuvant in neoplasm phases, acticarcinomatous action.
Conium (spotted hemlock) Glandular swellings, as in scrofulous and cancerous conditions; sclerosis and nodules hard as stone(!)
Hydrastis (golden seal) Remedy for affections of the mucosa: thick, viscid, ropy, yellowish-white secretions from all mucous membranes; raises the tonicity in cachectic and marasmic conditions.
Galium aparine (goosegrass) Precancerous conditions and neoplasm phases
Acidum sarcolacticum (sarcolactic acid) Acid-base regulation in the connective tissue.
Hydrochinonum (hydroquinonel) Antiseptic and antipyretic action.
Acidum alpha-liponicum (thioctic acid) Coenzyme in the decomposition of pyruvic acid.
Sulfur (sulphur) Reagent in all chronic diseases; cellular activity is influenced catalytically.
Manganum phosphoricum (manganese phosphate) Conditions of exhaustion with anaemia; trace element action especially in enzyme functions of the citric acid cycle.
Natrium diethyloxalaceticum (sodium oxalacetate) Active factor of the citric acid cycle and of redox systems; weakness of the defensive mechanism
Trichinoylum (triquinoyl octahydrate) Regeneration of blocked respiratory enzymes, promotes detoxication
Anthrachinonum (anthraquinone) Active factor in energy metabolism; promotes detoxication; gastro-intestinal disturbances.
Naphthochinonum (naphthoquinone) Active factor in energy metabolism; promotes detoxication; after radiotherapy.
para-Benzochinonum (para-benzoquinone) Active factor in energy metabolism; promotes detoxication; dermatosis
Ubichinonum (coenzyme Q) Active factor of the intermediary metabolism; promotes detoxication; strengthens the defensive mechanism.
Adenosinum triphosphoricum (adenosine triphosphate) Support of the energy-consuming systems.
Coenzymum A (coenzyme A) Coenzyme for transacetylation.
Histaminum (histamine) To support the detoxicating function; increased glandular secretion; eczema and dermatosis.
Nadidum (nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide) Biocatalyst, stimulation of the end oxidation in the respiratory chain.
Magnesium gluconicum (magnesium gluconate) Trace element action, especially in enzyme functions of the citric acid cycle. -----
Based on the individual homoeopathic constituents of Ubichinon compositum, therapeutical possibilities result for the stimulation of the defensive mechanisms against toxins in order to reactivate blocked enzyme systems, in the case of defective enzyme functions and in degenerative diseases (cellular phases).
While in allopathic therapy, in the cellular phases located to the right of the biological section, i.e. degenerative diseases, cancer formation and other phases corresponding, in general, to what is known as chronic marasmus, all attempts by the organism to rectify these phases (appearing as illnesses or regressive vicariation) are treated with massive suppressive measures,
whereby the enzyme damage present in the phases to the right of the biological section are intensified considerably and possibly made quite irreparable, the biological physician proceeds according to a totally different therapeutical principle,
i.e. by stimulating blocked enzyme systems with catalysts, and depolimerization of the neoplasm phase formation characterized by condensation or polymerization (according to Professor W.F. Koch), when various quinones and activation factors of enzyme functions, in appropriate, finely graduated blends,
in addition to homoeopathic remedies of antineoplasmatic action, in suitable dosage (such as Colchicum, Podophyllum, Conium, Hydrastis, Galium aparine) are utilized.
In particular, in this connection, the coenzyme factors (coenzyme A, adenosinum triphosphoricum, nadidum, acidum alpha-liponicum) are important, as well as the trace elements, without which the functioning of the special enzyme systems of the citric acid cycle is not possible (manganese, magnesium).
Also in this connection, the vitamins have an important function to fulfil, less in the form of vitamin substitution than (in comparatively low concentration) as acting as guide rail in the direction of the enzyme system to be induced.
This guide rail principle is also known to have proved satisfactory with the suis-organ preparations.
Here one can also speak of certain key functions, in which a suitable key is necessary for specific enzymes, in order for the preparation to achieve its total action and, above all, to gain access to the precursors in enzyme synthesis.
This offers theoretical possibilities that the attack by reparatory enzymes takes place, through which much damage (in the form of therapeutical damage) of the gene apparatus (possibly even in the form of carcinogenesis basically with causal mutation) can be eliminated.
Frequently in such cases merely the smallest molecular units in the form of co-repressors or inductors are lacking, in order to reveal the effects of the reparatory enzymes as regeneration.
The action of Ubichinon compositum ampoule therapy is often shown as a beneficial post injection fatigue, in the same way as with Coenzyme compositum ampoules, possibly also with Thyreoidea compositum and Hepar compositum, so that the patient is not denied repose,
similar to sleep induced for therapeutical purposes, in order to allow the possibilities of far-reaching restorative processes in the enzyme functions and systems to take effect.
Ubichinon compositum ampoules represent a preparation by means of which progressive vicariation in the area of cellular phases, and finally damage leading to neoplasm phases can be cancelled out, and meanwhile occasional alternating injections of suitable preparations such as
Coenzyme compositum ampoules, Glyoxal compositum (rarely or only once), Galium-Heel, Engystol N, Traumeel S, Hepar compositum, Thyreoidea compositum, etc., due to the various points of attack, facilitate a broad final effect.
Ubichinon compositum ampoules increase sensitization to X-rays, etc. (2 hrs. in advance i.m.) and have a favourable action in extreme homotoxin levels, including, for example, for influenza, abscesses, catarrh (aphonia etc.) and similar affections.
Ubichinon compositum ampoules are administered then, possibly in combination with Echinacea compositum (forte) S, for neoplasia with Viscum compositum (mite, medium, forte).
Still to be mentioned is the fact that the preparations with a vitamin B1 content (Coenzyme compositum ampoules, Ubichinon compositum ampoules and Discus compositum ampoules) should be injected intravenously only slowly and carefully, as many patients with therapeutical damage (phases 4 to 6) show hypersensitivity towards Vitamin B1,
although at the concentrations used here, such incidents, in general, are not to be expected, since the vitamins merely act as guide rails and do not form a massive substitution therapy.
The dosage is adapted according to the disease, the clinical picture and the stage of the illness: 1 ampoule once to three times weekly i.m., s.c., i.d.. Only after any possible reactions or disorders appearing have subsided. should the injection be repeated.
At intervals, as required, injections of other suitable preparations (Coenzyme compositum ampoules, Glyoxal compositum, Galium-Heel, Engystol N, Traumeel S, etc.). With this preparation, which contains vitamins, a fleeting, burning pain may occur upon i.d. and s.c. injections.
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If someone would like to have some fun... just click on the link above, you'll get loads of explanations for Heel products.
I wished I had such a library of products to test in front of me and pick what suited.
I guess these Heel products COULD be precious for healing phases at the end of lyme. I just wonder if the potencies are LOW enough to be used with light.
I'm just discovering them now (the only one I used for longer is this Ubichinon, but sublingual, that's how my naturopath told me to use)...
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The dilutions look fine. Take a look at Staufen Borrelia nosodes as an example. D5 through D200.
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Could you ART test any of these Heel products if used WITH the Bionic, Scott?
I mean, if you are interested, as these products do look excellent for detox and for rebuilding the body!
I wonder if one would need to buy just one vial and keep using it on and on then without opening them? That would be good price for what it could do to us!
thanks!
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I just recently started having the photon therapy with the Bionic with a practitioner in the UK and I just wanted to ask anyone who might know is it essential for all of the nosodes to be used during the treatment or does Dr W test for each individual nosodes too?
The reason I ask is because the practitioner who is treating me is a crystal therapist and tests me by dowsing and she found that I tested positive to only 2 of the nosodes before my 1st treatment, all of the others either said 'No' or 'Don't know'. My practitioner understandably trusts her own testing and was reluctant to take a chance using all of them in case it made me too ill as we both know that I am very sensitive. I already had one treatment with the bionic in the summer and it pretty much knocked me for six, so I have decided to trust her testing for now.
As it turned out the response I had to my first treatment was mild - I herxed just slightly Today I had my 2nd treatment and I tested positive to 7 nosodes this time which if the reading is correct would indicate that I am getting stronger but I am just not sure if it is really essential to use all the nosodes at the same time.
I know that Dr W is making his treatment more flexible as far as the Hz goes, so I wondered if anyone knows if this applies to the nosodes too. I tried to phone his office but cannot get through yet.
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Anne
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Dr W tapes d5 d6 d8 d10 d12 d15 d30 d60 d100 d200 and he also tapes two live bacteria vials as well. Then you run the bionic for 320 seconds using frequency 11.77 on the ten accupuncture points he has chosen..which are the same for eveyone
Thanks for your reply. Apparently he has changed his approach now and is using different frequencies depending on his testing which each patient so I was curious about whether he is doing this with the nosodes too.
I'm curious that you mention the 11.77hz frequency as I had 9.88 hz and in my leaflet written by him about the lyme treatment he says it should 9.88 so I'm a bit confused now!
Also I dont have the live bacterial vials yet which probably explains why my response has been pretty mild so far.
Thanks again, take care.
Anne
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He used to to 9.88 but switched recently to 11.77. When Steelbone and I were there in Nov. he was still using the same frequency for everyone, so if he has changed that, it is very recent.
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I'm currently using those for babesia and erlichia.
Personally, I would probably use babesia only nosodes first, then use those. I was having no reaction anymore to the babesia nosodes, but when I started using that set, it packed a new punch.
I still am typically in the 90% range, but sometimes the babs fatigue is flaring (in a similar pattern to how the borrelia flared during treatment). It might be a lot to start out with all those infections. Just a thought.
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Hey Six, thanks for your update.
So it means when you started with both ehrlichia and babesia you still herxed too much? Or are you talking about nosodes you probably found here in Germany being different from the ones from Desbio?
Or are you just suggesting to do ONE treatment for one critter at a time?
I often have the BIGGEST flare of my life just before one critter disappears. It's like it's giving the last of its breath to try to fight to death or to let die, so I often had that punch just before the critter suddenly disappears (stops suddenly to test from one day to another, all symptoms vanish suddenly...).
I guess it's like a big flush of poison with massive die off toxins (therefore, one has to avoid herxes at all means specially at that moment, or they will come back) or the critter is trying to reproduce and fight as strongest as it can exactly in that moment.
Just before it vanishes, it looks like it's in its strongest form. It didn't happen with borrelia nor bartonella (if my memory is good), but with many other critters, with candida and fungal species too, many of tick born coinfections, with mycobacterium bovis... I can't remember with babesia, I have to go back to my notes...
Thanks for any info on your treatment with nosodes.
-- I would only buy any nosode/ homeopathics on the lower potencies (the X ones, not C, K or M), if I would combine with photons. And would only try ONE thing at a time, unless I'm under supervision from someone who knows A LOT how to detox a patient.
I'm usually very sensitive, so that is how I did with herbs, with ingested homeopathics that kill, with microcurrent, and will do similar when I get a photon machine soon.
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Thanks I didnt know that, unless my practitioner told me and I completely forgot as I have a pretty bad memory!! I will mention it to her next time.
No I dont have any amalgams, I had all my fillings removed about 9 yrs ago which is lucky as at least I dont have to deal with that now.
I am definitely feeling stronger today but no herxing at all.
Paul how are you responding to the treatment, are you much better since seeing Dr W in Germany? Sorry I havent been able to follow all the posts here so I'm not familiar with your story.
Sixgoofy its great that you are still doing well, good luck with your continued treatment!
Thanks
Anne
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The Deseret nosodes are borrelia, babesia, and erlichia. The treatment is so strong, if I could treat all three separately, I would. So, I would treat the borrelia first, since it can be treated separately, then I would treat with the combination nosodes.
I'm not having a herx in the sense that we think of herxes. I'm still doing very well and am very functional. I can tell, however, that my body is doing a lot of work right now. I get a little fatigue from it. There's no way to describe what I'm talking about really .... it just feels like it's doing on the verge of too much at once.
I'd love to hear about how the babs reacted if you can find it in your notes.
Thanks for the well-wishes.
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At 1st i was doing pretty good. But the bionic pull the mercury from you teeth. So i had to stop until my filling are removed. Gigi has always said dont use the bionic if u have filling in your mouth. Wish i listen to her.
I see a dentist next week to get the process started. Once the fillings are removed i will start up with the bionic. i will treat either bart or babs 1st. I will let the bio-tensor decide that.later
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Six, if you feel like the DB products are too strong in combinations they put together, you might want to consider looking at what Ergopathics has to offer.
They have a good list of many different lyme related diseases in individual vials. I intend to order their lyme test kit when I have funds for the next round of treatment gems.
They also have kits for mycoplasma, etc., and almost anything you have heard of, in a tiny little glass bottle.
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Good luck with your amalgam removal next week, I hope that you make a lot more progress once your fillings are out. I can see why it might hinder progress still having amalgams in as it might possibly lead to too many metals being released. I have found that always get a metal taste in my mouth following a treatment.
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Being in contact with other Bionic practitioners in Germany, I am learning that time and intensity used for treatment of anything vary, changing with patients and type of treatments. I find the same to be true. I am always surprised what I come up with during energetic testing. These settings definitely change drastically for other treatments, metals, toxins, as well as other pathogens that are definitely keeping house in our body.
The settings also change from one treatment of the same substance to the next treatment of the same, probably because of energetic level and severity.
I would definitely not suggest treating all or several co-infections together. If I know that a problem is a real problem, I approach it alone. If I know that, for instance, one of the co-infections is more of a problem than others, I definitely treat that alone. Mass treatment does not work, as I have found, one ends up having to repeat treatments more times.
Energetic testing will also verify that every time. This is why I think it is almost impossible to treat energetically without being able to test energetically or be bested by someone. It seems the tensor practice has solved this problem for us. One question by tensor, and I have the answer whether I can put a handful of vials on the body or a single one. Most energetic testing methods also will reveal preference, i.e. what the body can handle best, whether right now, and how much of it, etc.
More sometime later.
Take care.
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Again, Ergopathics have great products but they are NOT from real infections. In other words, they are not nosodes. Nosodes are preferred over energetic vials when available in my opinion, but I have used energetic only vials as well as nosodes are not always available.
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Six, give me some more time for searching my notes (they are a bit scattered).
I just want to say that the Photonics PE1 has control on intensity (from 10% to 100%), has both pulsed and continuous mode and uses different LEDS with 5 different wavelenghts (880nm is included).
I don't know if this is a good infra red machine as I havent got mine yet, but I'm having a good feeling toward it. I think I'll buy it, test it, and then if I find it too bad I can still give it back and get my money back.
If it's good enough, I hope to be able to 'compare' it with the Bionic in spring. As the price is so different (on the 1,100 dollar range), I guess these are different products though.
I just realized I'm entering my 4th month without a borrelia relapse!!
It is the longest period without lyme ever for me (no lyme remedies). Knocking, knocking on wood!
I took the suggestion of Gigi to treat the higher bodies and spent my days 'talking' to a friend plant. Call me crazy, but I think she's healing me!!!! Posts: 6200 | From Brussels | Registered: Oct 2007
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thanks Scott.
As for nosodes, these low dilutions from Sanum are REALLY strong, even without photons.
I am using for the first time dilutions like D3 until D9 (ingesting or rubbing) since October, I'm AMAZED to see how potent they are.
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Selma, what "friend plant" did you talk with?
I am glad Sanum is helping you, I always ignored them because it seemed like such a complex system.
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Oxy, I don't know the name of the plant... It's a small-middle size tree that gives pink + white flowers in spring.
I'll send you a PM.
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Any more updates for this thread? I was hoping some of the folks going to Germany would blog.
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