sixgoofykids
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I went to Rome for Christmas and felt great! I got around as well as anyone did!
I did have a two day flare that slowed me down a little, but that just meant I had to sit and rest a little more than most in our group. My flare was at the normal timing of my flares. I am assuming the flares are from one of my three coinfections.
I caught a stomach bug that was going around our group in Rome, then on the airplane sat behind someone who had the flu, so I caught that too. I'm finally starting to get over it and am still not having Lyme symptoms. It was a long bug ..... but from what I've read, the flu can last a couple weeks.
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With the Deseret B. Nosodes do you Ingest them , or tape them on you? Also, What strength do you use??
Thanks!
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Do you have the Bionic? I guess people here are just taping them on the solar plexus then doing light treatment.
If you don't have the Bionic, people ingest them. I do ingest and rub nosodes on my body (if dilution is higher than D3). I don't think you would need to ingest nosodes if you use photons. I wouldn't. Only if the result is not as strong as expected.
If dilution is lower than D3, I wouldn't ingest (too high concentration).
I'll get my photon unit this week and will test it with nosodes!
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I have a friend who just arrived in Germany for treatment. I don't think she is doing a blog.
I hope to be in touch with her and will ask if she would like anything mentioned here.
I just went through some sort of crisis this past week or 10 days due to metals. I have been working cautiously to get the load down and was feeling quite toxic.
Something changed yesterday and I am feeling much better. I'm sure it's not over yet but that would be nice.
When I no longer test for heavy metals then I will begin treating yeast. I won't mess with that right now as I feel it is there protecting me from the metals to some degree.
During treatment in Germany I noticed a huge decline in yeast. When the metals started being released after having my amalgams out, the yeast went into high gear. All makes sense.
One step at a time.
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Would you recommend purchasing the Desbio nosides prior to going to Germany for Treatment with the Bionic, and taking them to Dr.W.?
It has been said that 3 weeks is not enough time to do more than the lyme treatment. But would it be good to bring the Desbio nosodes along anyway just for testing, and possible use of Boriella nosodes from the USA, (instead of German purchased NOsodes) as the lyme is different here?
Or just wait until I return home to get the Desbio?
I have recently stopped antibiotics and am removing my last amalgam this month, with heavy metal detox protocol. Also dealing with candida detox as my Candida is now an issue with the heavy metal detox! I always knew I had Candida from testing, but no symptoms until the metal detox. Had been on amphoterican B and loads of acidophylus for it all year.
Now I am using homeopathic remedies with a ND to prepare for the bionic treatment. (this is all new to me, as I was with a traditional LLMD until Nov.) My co-infections appear to be all gone per blood tests and energetic/ART testing. I am not herxing at all for over a month. I still test positive for lyme and EBV ! Still have neuro lyme symptoms. Brain Fog, Memory lapses, and Joint inflamation. My big concern also is Lupus. I am also off the Plaquinal for Lupus. I hope this is not a mistake. Just wanted to be as med free as possible before treatment.
Is it recommended to keep up the detoxing until I go to Germany in April, or should I just relax, and wait to let the photons begin the release with the removal of lyme. Then ART test and see where I am with lupus, metals, candida and co's after treatment?
sixgoofykids
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I tape the Deseret nosodes to the solar plexus during photon treatment. I do not consume them. I tape all the vials that come with the treatment, there are 10.
Lymeparfait, you could bring them to Germany with you for testing reasons. However, I would think the fewer times they have to be x-rayed the better .... so I'd wait till I got home and test then, but it could be done either way.
When I transported nosodes in my suitcase I wrapped them completely in foil.
I would buy the EBV nosodes over in Germany while you're there.
I think you're doing well to detox so that you're in the best shape that way as possible.
BTW, my flu has gotten a lot better the past couple days. I just have a sore throat and a little bit of a stuffy head. I plan on starting bart treatment today.
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hey goof with wrapping the nosodes, how much foil did you use for each, and is it shiny side in or out? thanks john
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sixgoofykids
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I put shiny side out, but don't know if that's correct. I used enough that I was sure no x-rays were able to get in there .... kind of like how you would wrap a gift. Mine still work, so I guess that was okay.
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SIx would you mind sharing what your Bart treatment will be??
Yes I am using the lightworks, and have been using the German Lyme nosodes with it... I believe they are the ones that Selma is talking about. I tape all 10 to my Solar PLexus and do 12 points.. I want to also do co-infections too (DB remedies) I would like to ingest those though... I know this is not as strong as the Bionic but I can not get to Germany... ALthough I would LOVE to go.
Thanks!!
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sixgoofykids
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I will be using the Deseret bart series nosodes with the light treatment.
After I treated the Lyme with the German nosodes, I treated babs/erlichia with the Deseret borrelia series. Now I'm moving on to the bart.
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After you tape the nosodes for treatment can you ingest them after that??
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sixgoofykids
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I don't know. I save them in case I need to retreat later.
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off topic but i know you'd come back to this thread:
i think you mentioned that you lost hair with the abx treatment, and it grew back after stopping....that is what i want (hey baldness isn't all that bad but i want to stop it from happening if possible). since we see same llmd with same bugs, were you on omnicef?
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sixgoofykids
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Actually, I lost a lot of hair prior to treatment and it came back with treatment. I guess there are meds that can make you lose hair .... let's hope it comes back for you.
I hear the Germans have come up with a light treatment to help with baldness .... since you're going over anyway ....
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Suggestion for ongoing Bionic users:
After using DB Bartonella Series and Borrelia Series, consider doing the same with LYM.
It contains the borrelia series, and also babesia, ehrlichia, meningitis series, encephalitis series, hepatitis series, trigonella and also thymus and adrenal sarcodes and supportive homeopathics.
This might be far too much for a beginning treatment, but might provide some excellent follow up as tested.
I have had excellent result with this using a similar protocol with Lightworks, especially for addressing meningitis symptoms.
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sixgoofykids
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Bejoy, do you have a website for them? I can't find anything with a Google search (it just thinks I spelled Lyme wrong).
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sixgoofykids
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Thanks for the link. I wonder what "gun powder" is for, LOL!
Looks interesting. I wonder what the Bionic does with homeopathics rather than nosodes .... though there is a lyme nosode in that.
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lymeparfait, I would keep on detoxing, it can't hurt...
good luck in your trip. There's someone that came back not too long (a whole family) and had a good experience there (lyme free but still fighting loads of other infections)... They don't want to post though...
I would take as many nosodes I could for dr. W. to test them (not to use, just to test). As I don't think you'll have time to use them while doing borrelia treatment.
Six and others, yes, it's shiny part of the foil out (what all homeopaths recommend). Not to take them under but on your hand luggage (xrays are less strong).
Keep the foil on the whole time, as other EMRs can spoil the homeopathics (I make a box and put the foil in the inside part of it). The highest the potency, the most sensitive to be spoiled by EMRs. So I wrap further all high potency homeopathics even inside my 'foiled' box.
Keep homeopathics away from smelly substances.
LM potencies, I usually keep them in my body not to be x-rayed (wrapped with the foil, of course). Some countries allow homeopathics to get out from the Xray and metal checks, but you gotta ask before the bag get checked.
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I wonder how would people react to a combo of homeopathics at once (like these environmental toxins from Desbio)...
If with the Bionic, one wouldn't either collapse or be without any reaction whatsoever (as there is too much information at once)?
anyone already tried such a combo homeopathic + light treatment?
My photonic energetic will arrive some time this week, so I'm considering doing more detox before starting with the killing...
Thanks
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Thanks for all the great info, guys. I'm about to get back on track with this soon.
When I used to travel alot, I used to put exposed & unexposed film in a lead bag to go through the airport scanners. Maybe if you could find one - you might be able to use that for remedies?
They used to sell them especially for film at photography stores. I think they are coated with some kind of plastic liner with lead inside.
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wouldn't having a lead bag in your luggage look sketchy?
also, if i wrap up nosodes in foil and travel, which place is it better to be stored- in the check in luggage, or in my carryon bag along with the laptop and ipod? i would rather check them in but i dunno if that is best
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John, I think wrapping the vials in a couple layers of foil is sufficient. It is best to put them in your luggage and check them in. If you have them in your carry-on, they will probably make you open and explain, etc. and that gets hairy because some of them are also liquids. The mail and packages are x-rayed and I have never had a problem with many vials.
Any vials in globuli form, not liquid, do not need to be wrapped in foil. The sugar protects them - as per the manufacturer.
Wishing you a successful trip and hope that you can relax some. It's better for healing!
Take care.
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FYI - Regarding checked baggage -
"Placing film in bags that are checked at the ticket counter presents a much greater risk of damage by X-ray because checked baggage is often subjected to a much more powerful dosage, and the films will certainly be ruined. "
Going through repeated scanning can expose things to more dosages of X-rays. It can be cumulative for some items like film. It depends on the film speed or type as to whether it's damaging.
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Would LOVE any of you to come join us on www.lymefriends.com and start a group on the Bionic 880; not to replace this discussion here, but to augment it.
We have a few members who have been to Germany; it would be a great group to have on the site as well.
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i definitely will be relaxing...i have plans on visiting friends in munich and zurich...
now that i feel my ducks are in a row (and i don't mean idsa), things will go pretty smoothly.
i saw my llmd yesterday, after 3 months of actually getting a bit worse with my symptoms and not talking with any docs about it...he is totally aware of the bionic being used and is excited to hear of my progress! that was a big, pleasant surprise. he also said my babesia is very low, maybe even already dormant. that is a huge bonus, to hear that! it makes my upcoming surgery much less scary.
from what i can tell- he hears good things about it. and that is fantastic news from a highly regarded llmd.
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