quote:Originally posted by daisys: Lassie, I started to rife with the Doug Coil right at a year ago, and am doing better than I have in many years. My energy is up, and most symptoms are gone.
It is very experimental. There are numerous frequencies for various issues. I tried many frequencies for short periods of time, and eventually added time to some and have stuck with them. Keeping good records is very helpful.
I will be posting here soon with details, and possibly questions.
Thank you Daisys. This is one of the ones which someone has recommended to me. It seems to have less accessories and options but I also hear it is very effective. They are also very expensive - do you have a source for a reasonable one?
I wonder if we need to use different types of rife or if having different types would be useful?
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quote:Originally posted by dbpei: The least cost would be the Spooky 2, but they are difficult to figure out how to use properly (that is my experience anyhow). I learned about Rife by reading Bryan Rosner's books to start. I later saw a LLMD who had a Rife machine in her office. I was able to book Rife sessions following my visits and in between, to see if it was for me. This was extremely helpful in getting me started.
I also attended a lyme conference a few years ago that included a speaker knowledgeable on Rife machines and followed up with him after the conference. I have since lost track of that person.
There may be some Facebook groups that could help you in your initial investigation of this type of treatment. I know how daunting it can be.
Thank you dbpei - I was wondering if the spooky 2 was actually a rife machine since it uses the computer? I have just received his book but have not gotten through it yet as I have been so exhausted. I will have to take a look on facebook although I am somewhat concerned about the lack of privacy. Does anyone else feel this is problematic?
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I have heard good things about the gb4000 but not able to find the emem-5a. Dan - do you have any idea of differences between the gb4000 type and doug coil? This has been the one someone recommended to me to buy.
I am going to try and read some of rosner's book today, but am so foggy I doubt i will be able to!
Does the rife break through bio-films? I am becoming a little confused about this having heard yes and no.
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quote:Originally posted by D Bergy: It is not really a reach to think you can have a normal life. My wife still has Lyme and might always have it, but it only flares once in a while and is put down pretty easily now with a few frequency treatments. The rest of the time it doesn't bother her and she has no problem doing anything a non-infected person does.
I have been treating my Crohn's using frequency treatments That has given me over 7 years of remission and I really don't anticipate it will ever get a grip on me again.
Dan
Hello Dan - How did you treat the Crohn's with the rife? Did you go after a particular infection for this?
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Time flies when I'm stuck at home because of a pandemic. I really thought I'd be back sooner.
I have one question about frequencies. I am interested in 10,000 and wonder how to refigure the number so I can use it with the Doug Coil.
I have been using frequencies that are posted here with reports of good results. I know it's best to prioritize Lyme disdease, but my symptoms have been air hunger (Babesia) and ankle/foot pain (Bartonella) so I have been rifing for them all along.
I've been rifing twice a day for up to 20 minutes, and using anywhere from 3 to 6 frequencies.
I think I have been having a herx the third day after rifing for Lyme, so I dropped to using lyme frequencies once a week for a couple of months now. But, I've decided to go back to twice a week for Lyme, and not confuse the issues by rifing for more than 1 thing a day.
I will still rife for the co-infections, but for 2 minutes only, and not on the days I rife for Lyme. I intend to add back other treatments for the co-infections.
For Lyme, I'm going to add 1 minute every time I rife until I get a definite herx, but not too bad or lasting too long. I won't go over 25 minutes or so.
One reason, really the main one, that I'm cutting back, is that I have 2 blocked detox pathways, so I'm not getting rid of toxins fast enough.
I'm open for any suggestions, of course, and will respond to any negative results, but am feeling good about this schedule.
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Hello Lassie.
There are basically three types of machines out there and they all use frequencies to kill or weaken pathogens.
The Doug Coil (invented by Doug McLane) uses wound copper coils to produce a magnetic field and the frequencies travel through that field for treatment. Doug an engineer, developed this to treat his own Lyme disease in the 70's I think, without any knowledge of Rife's work at the time. This is the only machine that uses a magnetic field in this way.
Later, the EMEM (Electromagnetic Experimental Machine)was developed by Dan Tracy which basically was a Doug Coil machine that used a plasma tube instead of coils. No amplifier because it is not needed if you are not using coils. It is easier to use because you do not have overheating coil problems and the frequency range is larger. The coil machines have limitations on the frequency range. That is not really an problem as the typical Lyme frequencies are all within that range.
The disadvantage is that the EMEM's do not produce a magnetic field and that may or may not make it less effective. No one really knows for sure which is better but they both can get the job done.
The third type is what is more closely related to what Royal Rife used in his day. You might say it is an EMEM with an RF carrier frequency. These types use a carrier frequency for better penetration and when used as Rife did, you can use the carrier frequency combined with another frequency to kill pathogens. There is no particular advantage to doing it this way that I know of but nonetheless it can be done that way.
All of these are referred to as Rife machines, although they are almost all variations of what Rife actually used. The closest is the GB-4000 and MOPA as it was designed to output what an original Rife machine output although with more modern internals.
Biofilms will not protect the spirochete form of lyme from the effects of the frequency. What it can do is protect the weakened spirochete from your immune system. So if you have only damaged the spirochete somewhat, it is possible it could recover where if it was out in the bloodstream without the biofilm, it would quickly be finished off by your own immune system.
From my experience,it appears you can kill the spirochete form and one other form with frequencies. There are other forms like the cyst form that seem to be almost impervious to frequency treatments.
I found that my Crohn's symptoms were largely caused by four different pathogens.
Mycoplasma pneumonia and possibly other strains but mostly the former.
LF-82 strain of Adherent invasive E-Coli.
H-Pylori.
The mycoplasma is the most difficult one to eliminate.
I did this by reading the research already done on suspect pathogens concerning Crohn' and testing them using the machine. I literally could not have done it any other way. The first pathogen I listed is almost impossible to eliminate using any other method yet it is easily eliminated using frequencies.
I have found other pathogens in large numbers in myself, but they are most likely not directly involved with Crohn's but are the result of the wonky immune system that brings about Crohn's.
Dan
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Hello Daisy.
What frequency range do you have with your coil machine? How high of a frequency can you run?
The foot pain could be Lyme or Bart.
In the order of difficulty, this is how I would rate those three infections:
Easiest although still not easy, Babesia.
Second would be Bartonella. I had a heck of a time eliminating that. I finally bought a Nutramedix Bart treatment and used that with frequency treatments to eliminate it. It seemed to reproduce faster than I could kill it.
Lyme is certainly the most difficult.
I think your schedule is fine. Many people treat willy nilly and you just don't get anywhere without regular treatments.
Dan
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One other machine option is to buy a used one.
I have two GB-4000’s, two MOPA’s, and one contact amplifier. All of them except for one MOPA were used. You should be able to save around one third or more of the new price by buying a used set up.
Dan
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D Bergy, I have GB-4000 but no MOPA. Do you think that Rife is much more effective or easier to use with MOPA? I remember reading that you could sleep with it running or be able to do other things like sitting at your PC or light household tasks, if you had MOPA, since you don't need to be using the contacts at your hands and feet.
What is your take on this? Thanks for all of your guidance.
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It certainly is easier with the MOPA. Not sure it is more effective but it could be in some areas of the body if the current from the contacts miss areas.
I treated my wife using the contact method for quite awhile. Got rid of her Babesia using that method.
It got tiresome holding the contacts especially since lyme was a long term treatment. I bought the MOPA mostly for that reason. Before that I was using a high frequency Rife labs EMEM connected to my GB-4000 to get away from holding anything.
Dan
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Thanks for this info, Dan. I would be interested in looking into purchasing a MOPA at some point for this reason.
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Dan, I appreciate the information on comparing machines. I'm reminded that frequencies don't kill the cyst form. I have continued taking nystatin since starting to rife, but dropped the tinidazole. Now I'm wondering what the rationale was. It looks like time for more research.
The highest frequency I can run is 2150. I notice there are two ways of measuring frequencies, and it seems there are formulas for converting them. It's confusing to me, but I wonder if higher frequencies can be adjusted for use with the Coil?
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Sometimes you can just run a higher harmonic of a frequency and get a similar effect. One example is the lyme frequency of 306 Hz. I used that one a lot at its higher harmonic of 612 Hz.
I tested both treating my wife and 612 Hz worked better with my machine. 306 Hz was one of the frequencies that Doug McLane came up with while running his coil machine while watching spirochetes under his microscope. It would damage them. That frequency may work better with a coil machine but we don’t know if he ever tested 612 Hz.
You could try cutting the higher frequency in half until it is in range of your coil. It might not work but the only way to know is to try it.
Dan
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Dan, I appreciate knowing how to adjust frequencies. Math is not my thing but multiplying or dividing by 2 I can do.
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I am looking for any info on anyone who possibly makes a rife machine? I really want to start this but it seems so daunting where to start, what to use, what works, what doesn’t.
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Silver .. Be sure to try contacting D Bergy. He is very knowledgeable.
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There are several vendors and types of machines. I use the GB-4000 and I also bought another one that is currently borrowed out to a person fighting stage 4 prostate cancer.
I bought most of my equipment used to save money.
If your do a search for "GB-4000" it will bring up vendors that sell them.
The guy in the link below builds a less expensive type of frequency machine.
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Hi Dan and fellow Rifers! Can you recommend some good babesia frequencies? I've worked on Lyme & Bart with my machine, but I've been having new pain in my legs, feels like in my bones, and I'm thinking I should treat for babesia as well.
Thank you!
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jewel, is the pain below the knees? If so I have some experience with this and have some rife freqs for you. My naturopath/rife expert helped me determine the pathogen.
Have you been to Florida, Caribbean or coastal regions of late?
Pam
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Hi Pam, no it's more my upper legs that hurt & tingle, and I haven't been on any travels due to Covid. I'm now thinking it may be related to a disc problem in my low back rather than a pathogen. Love the quote from Churchill!
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jewel, disc problems and bacterial infections go together. Do a web search on bacteria found in disc and you will be surprised.
I had recently been doing a deep dive on bacteria that destroys teeth and I kept seeing reference to back/disc issues.
Well I have a lyme friend with back issues, so it peaked my interest. Then my brother that has a couple disc surgeries and treatments was told they could do nothing else for his 5 herniated discs.
So I took a deeper dive into studies that show bacteria & friends are being found in discs. Studies have been done on antibiotics helping folks with severe back issues.
But IMO, that's where Rife comes in. I have had lower back issues also. So I did a test rife sessions based on reading and something my Naturopath has been telling me.
Actinomycosis rife freq 15576 for 30 minutes had my lower back screaming with aggravation. And I've been going at it on a regular bases.
These bad guys can settle comfortably anywhere they want to in our bodies.
Just food for thought.
Pam
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Hi! I’ve been using Dan Tracy’s EMEM5a for 15 years now!! Yikes! I rife every two weeks. Lately, I’ve been having some pretty intense herxes! No energy.
Several years ago, I had a three-year remission.
So many talk about treating more frequently. At this point should I?
Additionally, is there a machine that may address nerve damage?
Thank you so very much!
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bugabooboo, at this point, based on my experience you should be focusing on some things besides Lyme, bart or babs.
For me fatigue was reactivating Chronic EBV which everyone has because our immune system is tanked from the Lyme. If I have a stress event, EBV once again becomes active. Rifing for it knocks it back only until the next event.
Next event could also be another chronic bacteria that have raised their ugly head again. I'm also a staph and strep carrier.
Candida is a never ending struggle for me also because of too many years of trying to fight with antibiotics.
It's never just Lyme. Biofilms are real and busting them loose with Rife can and will release a long list of fungi, parasites, amoeba, and bacteria you might not even be aware you are carrying.
I've been rifing 3 or more days a week for the last few years. Always switching it up. I too was on the every 10-14 days of rife for 15 yrs.
I do really good until something happens. In March this year I got a very serious sinus infection, the whole right side of my face swelled.
The swelling also affected my upper molars and the pressure blew off a crown and cracked the tooth. Oral surgery which really caused me to crash. I ended up on antibiotic sinus irrigation because I couldn't figure out what bad guy was attacking the sinus. Believe me abx are my very last line of defense.
Finally that crisis is over. I've accepted that rife will be with me for the rest of my life.
Biofilm frequencies open a can of worms but it has to happen.
Pam
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dbpei, Please tell me what frequencies you use for detox? I have the mthr blockage, and have to keep it slow, or the toxins build up too much.
I also get stuck in the sulfuric pathway, so it's a double whammy for me.
Any help would be appreciated.
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So sorry, Daisys but I have not been rifing in quite a while. I started using mild hbot about 1 1/2 years ago and this seemed to help me more.
When I did use my Rife machine, I used the GB5000 and the book that came with it to figure out what frequencies to use. I remember there being several different frequencies for detox. I am currently away from home and unable to access my Rife manual.
I hope someone here who is still actively rifing can answer your questions. Good luck to you!
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Yikes, I just looked and the entry was from 2017! Sorry to bother you, and appreciate your quick response.
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I haven't read through all of this thread yet, but have started.
I need information about detox frequencies that have good success with the MTHER detox blockage, and also the sulfuric detox pathway.
Methyl-guard has been helpful for MTHER, but isn't the whole solution.
For the sulfuric blockage, liposomal glutathione along with a supplement with molybdenum has probably been helpful, but the jury's still out on that.
Cholestryamine has been very helpful in the past, but is less effective now.
I'm sure there's very good information in this thread, and if someone knows where it is, please give me a clue. It's a long read!
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daisys - I don't know if this is what you were looking for, but I found a post by "springshowers" on the "Detox Support Thread" back on January 21, 2012.
"For those who are Rifers here are the supports I use for Organs and Detox and cleansing. I run them after each and every treatment and in-between treating I will use just these alone.
Very nice feeling and stimulating to the organs to keep them from getting slow and or too stagnant where they are not doing there job as well."
Liver Support (1 min each programed) 337-463-574-668-787-803-912-1862-3337-5546
Lymph Support (1 minute each programed) 146-346-428-596-767-982-1078-5176-5443-8846
Kidney Support (1 minute each programed) 248-463-522-622-658-917-1865-3374-5162
You might also want to contact poster "D Bergy" - he is very knowledgeable and might know.
I remembered there is a book, although very expensive even used, titled "Rife Frequency Handbook" by Nenah Sylver. You can find it online.
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Thank you, H&P, that's exactly what I'm looking for!
I did look up Nenah Sylver's book. They are hundreds of dollars used! I'm not known to be a tight-fisted person, but my hands clenched when I saw that.
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You don't need to spend money on rife freqs.
Use this. I've saved these type of sites for years.
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Thank you, Pam, for providing that valuable source of information! God bless you.
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Help! My 2008 EMEM 3 machine is broken. Like a FOOL I lent it to a friend. Now I am desperate for a new machine. I prefer plasma machines. Any recommendations out here?
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Are you on the old yahoo group, now called groups.io/groups ?
I'm on rifeforum and rifegroup/Rife. Someone on there would be able to guide you.
Pam
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quote:Originally posted by March Gallagher: Help! My 2008 EMEM 3 machine is broken. Like a FOOL I lent it to a friend. Now I am desperate for a new machine. I prefer plasma machines. Any recommendations out here?
Hello mate, I can make one for you. It helps but to be honest what cured my Lyme was the MWO (Multiple Wave Oscillator) which I also made. I'm an electrical Engineer. Please message me or ask here any question
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quote:Originally posted by D Bergy: It is not really a reach to think you can have a normal life. My wife still has Lyme and might always have it, but it only flares once in a while and is put down pretty easily now with a few frequency treatments. The rest of the time it doesn't bother her and she has no problem doing anything a non-infected person does.
I have been treating my Crohn's using frequency treatments That has given me over 7 years of remission and I really don't anticipate it will ever get a grip on me again.
Dan
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Hi Dan, I am new to this group and want to learn more about Rife. I have been on antibiotics for Lyme, Babesia and Bartonella for three years with no success to get off them. I heard about the Rife machines. I would love to know which machine your wife has used successfully and where to purchase them.
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How often should you do the lymph support frequencies?
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has anyone had any luck rifing severe babesia? severe shortness of breath,insomnia,heart palpitations? Anyone with a known frequency that works for Babesia Odocoilei?
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Hello. I am new here. I am looking for suggestions on a machine. Also, I cannot find anyone experienced in NJ. Any help or suggestions are welcome. Thank you kindly, in advance.
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quote:Originally posted by EllieElle: Hello. I am new here. I am looking for suggestions on a machine. Also, I cannot find anyone experienced in NJ. Any help or suggestions are welcome. Thank you kindly, in advance.
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have you sucessfully rifed babesia? did you have the classic symptoms of airhunger insomnia shortness of breath nausea and heart palpitations?
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anyone on here from delaware or serounding states? looking for someone i can try rife or doug coil out with.
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I have not rifed for babesia or bartonella for quite a while. I rife for Lyme disease once a week.
I've been using frequency (Hz) 641.2 to bust up biofilms 840.6 to target cyst form 612 for the spirokete.
I haven't had symptoms for quite a while. What I have had was a continued fatigue that just wouldn't quit. I've come to realize that Epstein-Barr Virus causes fatigue and I've always tested high in titers for that.
I always heard it's an opportunistic virus and shows if there's another problem allowing it to proliferate. Now I know better.
I've been using for EBV is 386, 800, and 880. I have less fatigue now than I have had for decades. Some days I've had no feeling of fatigue.
Another problem has come up. I've been off gluten and eggs for years. I started to have autoimmune symptoms and so started on the autoimmune protocol diet.
After about a month, I really started to feel well and now am adding back one thing at a time. The food was good, we both like it, but adding back food I hope to continue eating has been challenging.
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Another thing: I had covid for a second time and it just seemed like a head cold for a week. But I haven't been feeling as well now for months. I believe long covid is to blame.
I just watched a video on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilIOh4cZiNI They have now learned more about long covid and having a sense of smell and taste isn't proof that a person doesn't have long covid.
One of the subgroups had reactivation of EBV. I believe I fall under that category. So, rifing for EBV, outlined in the above post, has helped me.
The AIP diet has made a huge difference in my health, also outlined in the previous post.
I hope this helps someone. Both of these conditions have symptoms and remedies so diverse, I feel I can only give a suggestion for others to follow up on.
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quote:Originally posted by lymielauren28: Tickbattler, I cleared my mailbox!
To answer your questions: Yes, I kicked babs with my machine. I was on malarone and zith for 7 months and relapsed, then did mepron and zith for 6 months. Within days of stopping I relapsed again.
I started out using my machine (I have a DT EMEM5) twice a week for babs. The first few times I did 570, 20 and 27 for 2 minutes each. After like the 3rd time I increased each frequency by one minute until I worked my way up to 5 minutes each frequency. Then I heard that 76 was a possible babs frequency so I added that one to the mix. I would say it took me about 3 months to kick babs this way.
I know one guy who beat babs in 3 weeks but he treated every day...I didn't feel I could handle doing it every day so I went at a little slower pace. In the same breath babs herxes are mild and there's usually an immediate clearing of symptoms following a treatment, so you actually feel much better.
Hope that helps! `
hey are you still around on here? you still believe rifing worked for your babesia? what strain did you have?
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Backwood you don’t rife according to strains. You would rife babesia, malaria, and other protozoas. No, babesia is not a quick fix with rifing. None of the Lyme & co-infections are a quick fix.
Relapses are the norm in this, so you rife on a regular basis even when you are feeling better. It’s a long term approach.
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