canefan17
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Juli,
Interesting - I'll keep 357 in mind after I rotate 842 in.
Ultimately what I might do is have 842 replace 832 (on 2 a days) - then randomly rotate 357 in... then replace 842 with 357 (on 2 a days) and rotate 1518 in - so on and so forth down the line - eventually coming back around to 832 and seeing if herx hits.
^^ Ok that's a really OCD-like plan But I like it : )
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I am going to try 357 Hz or a higher harmonic of it also. I could use another good Bart frequency.
Dan
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juli, it has 1 minute per. Does your machine sweep and pulse? I'd do it once a day for 3-5 days.
About 5 yrs ago I was using the ecoli 2-3 times a day for 7 days. I was seeing a muscle testing doc at the time and my body wanted/needed badly.
It came up several times in a year period with muscle testing. I didn't know if it was the just that series of freqs my body wanted/needed or a bad ecoli infection in me at that time.
I've never experienced UTI infections until I started protocols fighting bart with rifampin in the last 18 mths?
I had a darn chiro treating me for 2 mths and giving me exercises to heal my back. I couldn't do the exercises for the pain got unbearable.Dum dum.
When I found out my pain was UTI...dumped that chiro. He had a great Reiki specialist working on me. Insurance wouldn't pay her unless I seen dum dum.
Juli, sometimes it's the sweeps that help hit on something.
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Has anyone had success rifing for candida? If so could you post the frequencies?
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Lauralyme,
Yes! Not permanent, i don't treat the Candida thoroughly enough. I rife gut candida once a week. It knocks it down, but then it builds up gradually.
I only do the 20 min session, then i get bored holding the electrodes on my belly wearing rubber gloves. (Wear rubber gloves so that the electricity doesn't go into the hands and get dissipated).
I've used 2 sets of frx that worked, from Nenah Sylver's book, The Rife Handbook, on p. 457. Because of copyright laws, i can't post them.
My problem is that i'm mainly doing photon therapy with the PE-1. Some people say not to combine the modes of treatment, photons with rife. It's new, there's little information.
Finally the Candida was getting to be too much of a problem, the herbals didn't help enough, so i did the 20-min rife treatment on my belly, on a day i hadn't done photons for a couple of days.
It worked, knocked it right down. The photons are working too , used with homeopathic nosodes. I don't know anything about homeopathy, i'm just trying to imitate Selma, and it DOES SEEM TO WORK.
For detox i increased my CILANTRO dose to 1 tsp of the alcohol extract per day (steeped in hot water for about 15 min or so to drive off the alcohol). The higher dose seems to work better; i haven't had any more metallic taste in the mouth.
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Yes, my machine will pulse and sweep. (at least I think so) I haven't used these settings as of yet because I haven't been able to tolerate much rifing time but plan on incorporating these extra's soon.
Dan, I'm curious how Cindy will do when you try the 357.
BTW, my scope that I had done showed Gastritis. I also had 10 polyps in my stomach that were removed caused by one of the meds (Pantopraxole) I was on according to the GI Doc.
Blood work came back neg for H-Pylori but waiting for biopsy. I'm still not so sure it's not the Lyme or Bart but I am doing much better now that I am taking Bentyl and Pepcid.
The digestive aid helps a lot also!
Canefan, let us know how you do with 357 to!
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I am nearly at the end of my treatment and feeling really well. Been off ABX for six months but still taking artemisinin. But sadly I feel like I will never be able to get off this extreme lyme diet.
Just eating whole foods with a higher glycemic index makes me so sick.... dizzy and drunk feeling. I'm sure if I had a slice of pizza that would be the end of me.
Do you experienced rifers recommend I buy a rife machine at this point mainly to treat candida?
Thank you in advance for your opinions
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April 9th, 2011 1:00 PM: This was my 72nd Treatment. I waited 48 hours to begin this treatment since the last. Repeating the frequency therapy from April 7th 2011. I'm feeling extremely exhausted when I wake up. In-fact I'm so exhausted I can't even get out of bed until about noon. I feel "hung-over" and taking Melatonin past midnight appears to make it worse. The dose of Melatonin is 3mg extended release.
1: Purpose: Non-Respondive Unknown Infection
Make: Rife Labs
Machine Model: EMEM3D2
1: Frequency: 1: 790
1: Dose: 30 min
Distance 1 foot
Location Target: Anterior of Body
Duration:48 hours
Interval: 1 min
Clothing: Cotton Tee Shirt, Cotton PJ pants
Stomach Content: Empty
Detoxification: Kidneys, Liver, and Lymphatic system: Pekana Products: Apo-Hepa, Renelix, Iteres, 20 dp of each x 1.
Water: Trace Mineral Research, 10dp x 2 in 4oz Fluid,
Post Water: 16oz filtered
Exercise: No workout today, too tired.
Immediate Effect: During & post treatment: 1: None
Health Function Scale: 30%
24hr: Feeling like hell.
48hr: Awful night of sleep. Recovering a little bit.
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I'm sorry to hear your not feeling so well MB!
I hope things turn around for you very soon!
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Did someone rife for parasites?
Schistosoma? 847,867,635. They live in the blood vessels and make the same red stripes as bartonella.
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Lauralyme-----
I myself need a rife machine to treat Candida. Nothing else works for me. It gets to be a serious problem with my life. But i keep eating chocolate. Your condition sounds even worse.
Has anyone else rifed for Candida?
Why don't you post your Q as a separate topic, outside this thread,; everyone doesn't read this thread.
Selma cured all her Candida and other fungi using Sanum homeopathics, (and maybe other homeopathics) which can be bought from Dr Z's website.
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357 knocks nasty Bart down. I do 5 minutes, then add some detox freqs 5000 and 10000. I'm only doing about once a week.
I bounce around and attend to other freqs. I know it's said to do bart freqs daily. But I do better recovering from a fight with Bart.
I'll go there in time.
Pam
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Why are people doing 5000? Didn't Dan say once that it may cause blood cell damage?
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Here is the only reference to this subject I am aware of.
Of course it is anecdotal and the only report concerning this.
quote:I talked with the maker of one machine the other day. He told me that at 5000 Hz, that the machines could actually kill red blood cells...but made the caveat that the red blood cells destroyed were probably malformed or on their way out (about to die) anyway. So, his take was that a healthy cell would not be destroyed, but an unhealthy human cell could be destroyed. I don't know what the carrier frequency was in this particular case.
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I just had a complete blood count done last week and my red blood count is fine! I use 10,000 Hz almost daily for ten minutes at a time.
10,000 HZ would be the same as 5,000 just a higher hamonic and most likely more powerful then just the 5,000 Hz. Right Dan?
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April 11th, 2011 11:00 AM: This was my 73rd Treatment. I waited 48 hours to begin this treatment since the last. Repeating the frequency therapy from April 7th 2011. The "sick" feeling continues. Sleep is awful, some night sweats are present. I feel hung over and fatigued even more so than usual. It is unknown whether this is a Herxheimer reaction, however it's gotten worse since I started using the 790 frequency for 30 mins. So I'm continuing.
1: Purpose: Non-Respondive Unknown Infection
Make: Rife Labs
Machine Model: EMEM3D2
1: Frequency: 1: 790
1: Dose: 30 min
Distance 1 foot
Location Target: Anterior of Body
Duration:48 hours
Interval: 1 min
Clothing: Cotton Tee Shirt, Cotton PJ pants
Stomach Content: Empty
Detoxification: Kidneys, Liver, and Lymphatic system: Pekana Products: Apo-Hepa, Renelix, Iteres, 20 dp of each x 1.
Water: Trace Mineral Research, 10dp x 2 in 4oz Fluid,
Post Water: 16oz filtered
Exercise: 60 mins on Exercise Bike. Push-ups: 20, Pull-ups: 4 Crunches 20
Immediate Effect: During & post treatment: 1: None
Health Function Scale: 30%
24hr: Strong herxheimer reaction. Debilitating headaches, muscle pain, and sleep disorder. Then suddenly it disappeared after being present for about 5 days.
48hr: Back to baseline, about 35-40%, closer to 40%
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I am not sure which would work more effectively between 5,000 Hz and 10,000 Hz.
In general higher harmonics seem to work better for killing pathogens, but there may be exceptions to that.
Using 5,000 or 10,000 Hz for swelling is different than killing an organism, and the effective range could be completely different.
I have never heard of any problem using either, other than the post I quoted earlier concerning 5,000 Hz. I am not to concerned about any serious problems using these frequencies. I am pretty sure we would have reports by now, if they did do any significant damage to blood cells.
These frequencies have been used for quite some time.
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Interesting Point Dan! Glad you clarified that.
The Tech just called and Ed turned the MOPA on and it won't light the tube nor does the meter move. It was working when we turned it off last night. Looks like the MOPA may have to go back.
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I would check that the vacuum tube is seated all the way and that it lights. I use a paper towel to handle the vacuum tube as oil from the skin might create a hot spot.
I am sure they will fix it free, but it is a hassle to have to send it back already.
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The naturopath that I bought my machine from gave me the 5000 to do with 10000 after I've run my killing freqs.
I use them as a clean up/detox freq and yes they help me with imflammation. The other good thing about them is.....within 1-2 hrs of running detox freqs, my colon has a wipe out party.
Sorry if that is gross, but it's what I experience and with my GI issues from Bart, I've got serious issues with constipated.
So I've never seen anything negative on it. In fact I just looked through my Beam Ray book and under MS 5000 is programmed for 10 minutes on a protocol with 17 other freqs lasting from 45 sec up to 3 minutes for a few.
Going through my rife drawer and every piece of paper of notes I've kept since '04... 5000 is also listed for Candida.
So it makes me wonder if detox 5000 is causing my body to release Candida rather forcefully too.
Just my thoughts, Pam
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Yes, the builder Jeff told Ed to check out the tube so he is going to do that shortly.
Jeff, said if that don't do the trick then he will build us another and send for a pick up on this one. He is also sending us a GB 4000 to use while he modifies the correct plug in the rear that will work with the MOPA we need. ( free of charge).
I thought that was pretty generous of him! He also said the seller should have known and discussed the newer plugs with us.
Thanks Dan.. I told Ed how you said to handle the tube. Ed said he don't think it is the tube because he can see that it is lighting.
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quote:Originally posted by map1131: The naturopath that I bought my machine from gave me the 5000 to do with 10000 after I've run my killing freqs.
I use them as a clean up/detox freq and yes they help me with imflammation. The other good thing about them is.....within 1-2 hrs of running detox freqs, my colon has a wipe out party.
Sorry if that is gross, but it's what I experience and with my GI issues from Bart, I've got serious issues with constipated.
So I've never seen anything negative on it. In fact I just looked through my Beam Ray book and under MS 5000 is programmed for 10 minutes on a protocol with 17 other freqs lasting from 45 sec up to 3 minutes for a few.
Going through my rife drawer and every piece of paper of notes I've kept since '04... 5000 is also listed for Candida.
So it makes me wonder if detox 5000 is causing my body to release Candida rather forcefully too.
Just my thoughts, Pam
I think I'll try running the 5000 also after reading Dan's post maybe I could benefit from it to.
I've been having a lot of GI problems to so maybe that will help!
Yesterday I upped my Bart treatment time by one minute and it's the first time that the 10,000 Hz did not stop the pressure and migraine.
I've been upping my Bart treatment times by one minute each treatment but it must of been to much to quick this time. Feel pretty sick today.
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Jeff has always been good to work with regarding anything related to his machines. I have only had to pay postage for updates,repairs, and I bought the GB-4000 used, and he is aware of that.
I have not mentioned this before but Cindy uses Peppermint Oil for direct relief of joint pain, or even a headache. Her ankles have started to flare up more, since we are not treating right now.
I really did not think it would work, but she has used it for a few months now, and she gets good results with it. It is purely a symptomatic treatment, but it is a safe one.
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Yeah, Jeff seems really nice and helpful! Maybe I'll just deal directly with him in the future if we can.
I have never used peppermint oil before how does Cindy use it for her headaches?
I'm so sick today.. I've had to take two vicodins and still barely holding the headache down. Stomach isn't doing to good either!
Gosh Dan I hope you get your machine back soon! Probably one good treatment and Cindy will bounce back quickly. That's how the Bart seems to work for me once I get over the herx.
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Is Bart possible to eradicate with Rife therapy?
What do you guys think?
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She puts the peppermint Oil on the back of her neck. She gets tension headaches that start from tight neck muscles like I do. I do not know if that would work for a Bart headache, since the cause is likely different.
Bart can be greatly reduced, but I have not managed to totally get rid of it yet. Part of the problem is likely that we are not able to treat often enough.
We may need another frequency, so I am going to test out some other frequencies. I also have not used the DNA frequencies much. Maybe I should?
The machine is at the post office, so I will get it tomorrow. Apparently the mail carrier did not feel like bringing it to the house. I waited around for it, but she never came to the door.
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Do you all still Rife when you are already feeling very ill? I only do detox freq. during the week end typically but I was feeling very ill yesterday and again today.
I still did my Babs rifing because I don't want to get behind - and it's my Lyme/Erlich week, too.
I did a lot of 10K so hopefully that will help.
I can't sauna today so we'll see what happens.....
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Dan, you mentioned you might be looking for some different bart freq. I have been getting some good hits with 547 and 847. 847 is a well known bart. freq. as many 800 numbers are. I discovered 547 after going thru some old notes and had written down that a person had good success with 547 for bart awhile back.
Best of luck
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Thank you for the frequencies. I will try them one at a time and see what happens.
There is a researcher that is going to be testing frequencies for Lyme, under the microscope. This is not an easy task, but I am glad he is willing to try. I hope it will help confirm what we know, and reveal new frequencies that may help.
Dan
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Cane, good question about bart. I'm not sure? I believe Dan when he says it can be knocked down.
Bart seems to be IMO just as stubborn and tricky as lyme. Cycles are much shorter so it can take off on you quickly.
I feel very uneasy about rifing for bart daily like some. I do not want to send myself down the road of no life and living on my couch.
I've got to find a happy medium. I haven't yet, but I will, somehow, someway.
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New freqs for bart. I'm game. Thanks jarjar.
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John Stolar has been impossible to get ahold of lately.
Anyone Coil'ers have any luck?
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I know the feeling I was on the couch All Day yesterday with upper GI upset, awful pain behind my lower sternum and a bad migraine headache all because I added just ONE minute to my 6 minute Bart treatment that I was no longer herxing to.
I hope I feel better today. On a Happy Note I have my Bart symptoms pretty much gone with just rifing a few mins twice a week. (unless I'm herxing).
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Juli, I hope you've turned into a detox machine today. Might want to try 5000 and 10000 for 5 minutes each?
Take care, Pam
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I'm going to give the 5000 Hz a try this evening. I'm sure I won't herx from it but I still sneak up on any new freq. Lol!
I'm feeling much better today!
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Dan---- i think i recall that peppermint oil kills lyme.
Cindy is using a bit of Farah's method (Farah used to post here). Farah rubs various essential oils in combinations to kill pathogens.
Only a very few drops are used in a carrier oil. Essential oils are very strong and can be toxic in excess.
I've used them; they work!
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All, I just asked this question on the board to keep it separate, but I know many of you probably stick to this thread alone.
Dan has been kind enough to respond already.
Can you please respond with what your longest herx from rifing was? I rifed for 20 min 4 days ago and I'm wondering if it's possible that I could still be herxing? I am afraid I'm just getting worse overall. I rifed my spine and I have twitching and buzzing all down my arms and legs like when I first was sick. This has been happening since about 3 rife sessions ago, so about 3 weeks. The past 2 sessions were only 5 days apart.
I don't know if I'm rifing too close together and not giving enough time to detox in between? is it possible to still be herxing after 4 or 5 days? What is the longest you have herxed after rifing?
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I never knew Peppermint Oil kills Lyme. No wonder it works!
Thank you for that information. I learn something new every day.
Got the MOPA back. The new 3.3 MHz carrier frequency makes the stove controls go nuts. The oven light was blinking on and off, and it was beeping all of the time. I finally had to shut the breaker off.
If you have a newer Kenmore stove, and a MOPA, look out!
Oddly enough, she did not respond a lot to the Bart treatment, or the Lyme treatment. I would have expected a bad die off after all of that time not treating, especially for Bart. She did feel it, but not a lot.
The Lyme does not surprise me too much, but the Bart should have raged back in that time, but it did not. I almost wonder if it is damaged enough that it can't reproduce well, or if her immune system is strong enough now to keep it down on its own.?
I used a higher harmonic of 357 Hz and 847 Hz for Bart, but she fell asleep during part of the treatment. So I do not know what effect it had. I will try them again later. I do know she felt one of those frequencies, but not sure which one.
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quote:Originally posted by canefan17: John Stolar has been impossible to get ahold of lately.
Anyone Coil'ers have any luck?
I have no idea where he is, but I haen't been able to reach him by mail or phone.
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The question regarding Herxhing. It's common to often think you're getting worse when you happen to hit a frequency that works. The key then is to give yourself a little extra time to recover, and repeat with the same frequency over and over again. When you no longer get a reaction, increase the time.
For example, I had no reaction to most frequencies, but when I did a single frequnency for 30 mins, bang, that's when the Herxheimer reaction came on.
I knew it was a Herxheimer reaction when it suddenly dissipated within a day after kicking my ass for 4-5 days. A sudden drop like that combined with harsh headaches and major major sleep issues are big signs for me. I already have big problems in these areas, but they increase drastically when a Herxheimer reaction comes.
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April 13th, 2011 11:00 AM: This was my 74th Treatment. I waited 48 hours to begin this treatment since the last. Repeating the frequency therapy from April 7th 2011. During my last report I noted I was feeling very sick. It turns out it was a Herxheimer Reaction. The reaction dropped suddenly yesterday. It appears that decreasing the frequency number and increasing the time drastically from 10-30 mins made a big difference. I will continue with the same frequency until it no longer works, and then move onto another single frequency for 30 mins.
1: Purpose: Non-Responsive Unknown Infection
Make: Rife Labs
Machine Model: EMEM3D2
1: Frequency: 1: 790
1: Dose: 30 min
Distance 1 foot
Location Target: Anterior of Body
Duration:48 hours
Interval: 1 min
Clothing: Cotton Tee Shirt, Cotton PJ pants
Stomach Content: Empty
Detoxification: Kidneys, Liver, and Lymphatic system: Pekana Products: Apo-Hepa, Renelix, Iteres, 20 dp of each x 1.
Water: Trace Mineral Research, 10dp x 2 in 4oz Fluid,
Post Water: 16oz filtered
Exercise: 60 mins on Exercise Bike. Push-ups: 25, Pull-ups: 6 Crunches 25
Immediate Effect: During & post treatment: 1: None
Health Function Scale: 40%
24hr: Felt tired. No change.
48hr: Sleep was worse and felt even more run down.
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The longest I have ever herxed was 6 days when I first begun rifing.
I do notice though that around the end of the month (like clock work) I become symptomatic.
At first I thought I was going downhill but I now know it has a pattern to it and it will pass. I don't get to concerned about it anymore.
I'm thinking it must be the cyst bursting or some kind of Lyme cycling I'm not sure other then I'll feel it again around the 28th and it lasts about 6 days.
Dan, Oh no! I hope my MOPA don't do that! Never thought about the appliances. I have two ovens but they are Frigidaires. I'll let you know.
My MOPA has been sent back and Jeff is sending a new one.
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It is common to feel much worse after treatment, and then get better.
It is when some people never seem to get to the feeling better part, that I worry about.
You figured out something pretty important MB. It is those kind of observations that will lead you out of this.
I do not think it will be much longer before you see substantial improvement. If you can take thirty minutes of a single effective Lyme frequency, you are well on your way.
In my book, that means you have reduced the bacteria a lot already.
Dan
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Rife Journal For All Users: Template, Details, And Systematic
Dan, I think it really takes a systematic approach, and that is why I've started a diary that everyone can access. The diary is much different than those that are currently available. It lays out an approach that all can follow right from the start. As they advance, they'll find that "somewhere" along my own journey they too will see changes if they do indeed have Lyme Disease.
I was unable to record blood testing results for each session given the sessions were so close together so I left those objective results out. People are welcome to record their basic blood levels with a Comprehensive Metabolic Panel if their insurance covers it. A weekly or Bi-weekly recording would be useful to see if a pattern emerges during the course of Rife Therapy.
Purpose Of Each Session (What are you treating specifically)
Numbered Frequency In The order performed
Dose (How long was the frequency used
Distance from machine
Which way is the body facing the machine (Posterior, Anterior, aka Front of body, Back of body, head, legs,)
Duration (How long between each Rife Session based on hours)
Immediate Effect Of Treatment (What did each frequency "feel" like. No response? Tingling? Itching?
Post Treatment Effect: Recording symptoms or changes following treatment 24hr, 36hr, 48hr all the way up to the next Rife Session)
The Second Half of the journal contains detailed summaries, combined with the information from the Charted Summary. Each session is numbered, so one can read the chart and see session 34 near the top on the chart, as well as scroll down to the detailed summaries and also read session 34.
The detailed summaries are the ones that I've listed here on Lyme Net. The significant changes are usually "bold", while on the chart summary, the significant changes are bold, blue and increased in font size to make it easy to see.
Questions are welcome. You can e-mail me at [email protected], or PM me here. Obviously people can use the template. You can use a pen to write out your chart in a notebook, or use a program like Adobe, Word, etc to also make charts. Most people do not need to make it as complicated as mine is -- mine is meant to be a guide for others from beginners all the way to highly advanced users.
-------------------- I am not a physician, so do your own research to confirm any ideas given and then speak with a health care provider you trust.
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I fully agree with you that treating willy nilly is not the way to go. It is a learning process, and the only way to learn is to be somewhat organized in how we treat.
I originally made lots of notes, and have gotten away from it lately. I still do things the same way, but I keep track of it in my head. What I do not think I will remember I jot down in a notebook.
I am going to mention something that I am not 100% sure of at this time. It has nothing to do with frequency treatments, but a chance occurrence that has got me thinking.
My son suffers from an autoimmune disease that is related to mine, but different.
Some of the symptoms are common with many autoimmune diseases and Lyme, which affects the immune system.
I will focus on the symptoms that are mental in nature since these are the most troublesome.
As you all know by now, I spend a great deal of time looking for methods to control, and hopefully cure not only Lyme, but my Crohn's and two of my children's autoimmune diseases.
My youngest son has Hidradenitis Suppurativa. Other than the baseball size, extremely painful, abscesses this creates, it also has mental symtoms.
He suffers from depression, anxiety, and is unable to get up early in the morning. This inability to wake up has contributed to him losing a job even though he is quite talented in his work.
He has tried the usual depression medications which either zombied him out so bad, he could not stand it, or caused other problems such as suicidal tendencies. You all know the possible side effects of these drugs, and he seemed to exhibit all of them.
I used to think his inability to wake up was just a sheer lack of self discipline, but there is more to it than that. It is literally impossible to wake him up.
I have had him try many things to try help him with this disease, which of course is incurable.
I have not had much luck other than some slight benefits using some supplements.
That all changed recently with one supplement in particular. I had him try Rhodiola Rosea. I had never heard of this until recently, but thought it might help him. It has no known side effects, and has a history of helping with depression in Siberia.
He took some of this supplement, and the difference has been astounding. He is happy and now can sleep at night and more importantly he can get up in the morning. He has much more energy than he has had in a long time, probably ever.
I have never seen such a dramatic improvement for anything, from one supplement. It did not help his anxiety much, which is unfortunate, but the depression is gone, and he is able to function again as a normal person.
Since some of these symptoms are also present with Lyme, and it does affect the immune system, I thought it was worth mentioning here.
Lyme is not his disease, and it may not work, and it could even make symptoms worse. I simply do not know how it might affect someone with Lyme.
If someone here has similar symptoms, and you are willing to risk a possible negative response to Rhodiola rosea, I think it is worth a try.
I would not even bring it up if he responded slightly to this supplement, but it was a dramatic improvement. He is taking slightly less than twice the recommended dosage, as that works better for him.
I bought this from Puritans pride, but it is available from many sources.
Maybe this can help someone with Lyme who is disabled with fatigue and depression, or maybe not. Someone with these symptoms will have to tell me if it can help with Lyme.
I ordered some more, as I have a bit of this fatigue thing going on also, likely due to the improper immune function. I gave all of mine to my son, when I found out how well it was working for him.
Do your own thinking on this. I am just throwing it out there as something not tested for Lyme.
Dan
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Dan, the thing is if your thread about Rhodiola Rosea helps one other person here, you've made a huge difference in someones life.
I've got a feeling there will be more than one.
Pam
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Dan have docs ever done bioposy of his Hidradentitis suppurativa?
I just did a little reading on it and noticed Hashimoto's as possible cause? I guess he's been tested for all the auto-immune diseases?
I have recent dx of Hashimoto's, anti-bodies were very high. I have skin eruptions too but my don't get huge and mine aren't gland/folicle related.
Mine have happened on top of foot, elbows, face and in the last few months under my left breast.
I can treat my outbreaks and the things go back into hiding whereever they hide out in my body. So I know that your son is much greater scale.
I have a brother and sister that both experienced this huge things, my sister in the groin and my brother somewhere on his back. it was horrific experience, but they were able to eventually get proper treatment.
I remember my sister's came and went for years but disappeared and never came back. My brother was just one episode.
So many questions arise on this site with family members having such a different set of sx and different diseases. I seen also that Crohn's was another possible cause of Hidradentis. I know that's your medical issue.
Such a puzzling thing.
Pam
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