D Bergy
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It has always been a mystery how it can work for one person and not another.
I understand that happening with, for instance, my Crohn's treatment of using LDN. It is known to work about 70 to 80% of the time. Since it is altering the immune response, I can understand that is going to vary for each individual.
Frequency treatment for Lyme should kill Spirochetes, at the very least, in anyone. I noticed some do get a Herx, but do not improve otherwise. That makes some sense, as this can happen using any treatment.
I am not sure if it is a detox issue or what it is, but that problem is not so much a treatment problem, but something else. If four different treatment methods produce the same result, then you have to find out the reason for lack of recovery other than the method of killing Lyme. Certainly one of four methods should have produced some improvement.
What really puzzles me is no reaction at all, good or bad. That one I have no explanation for. I wish I knew the answer, because not knowing does not help anyone.
Dan
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quote: I used to post regularly on the Lyme Friends website when I first began my Rife journey and I was torn apart by someone much in the same manner that you're tearing apart Catskill now. I'm wondering if you're the same person? Of course if you are you won't speak up and say so, so I suppose that's neither here nor there.
No, it wasn't me. I have never joined that group....I don't even go there to read either. I barely post here as you can see from my whopping 112 posts to date over a five year period.
Dig down a little deeper in your past, and I'm sure that you can find a few more bitter memories that you can heap on my back as well. Maybe a little psycho analysis will help. Maybe it will help to put an end to your need to continually lash out at others when they disagree with you.
You use the term ``torn apart'' to describe what happened to you and catskill both. I didn't see what happened to you over there, but I doubt if it's an accurate description of what really happened, based on what I wrote here. All I did was to give actual proof of what she claimed, and what she did in reality. It was all matter of factly laid out. I didn't attack her character as a whole, or try to make her out as some kind of evil person like you are trying to do to me. I attacked her argument with her own statements, because that's what people need to see.
Why is it necessary to use a real example? Because rifers believe that experience is king, and that no one's opinion means didley unless they have actually used it. It isn't enough to give examples from people that have found rife to be useless; it has to be first hand information from actual experience. But it doesn't stop there; if there are negative testimonies against rifing, well there has to be a reason like operator error or machine malfunction. And then finally if all else fails, attack the person and try to discredit their testimony as you and others have tried to do in this thread.
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METALLlC BLUE
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Why was this post brought back up again with the same posts as it had a week ago?
Either way, I saw my LLMD yesterday (Dr H in NY). They are encouraging me to use Rife now. They said "We have a routine for people who Rife that will support your treatment. The Rife is your decision, we don't know or suggest frequencies, but we can provide plenty of help in detox, heavy metals, and many other areas.
This was a shock to me. It was the PA who I saw and have worked with. She is brilliant. She did "not" prescribe or recommend this to me, but she seemed excited and happy about my decision to take it seriously.
At any rate I'm exhausting a few more antibiotics before starting. She prescribed ongoing Rifampin, Tindimax, Naltrexone, RX Chelex, Vitamin D3, Milk Thistle, Vitamin B6, (Multi Mineral), Lariam, Magnesium, Diflucan or VFEND, Ongoing Nystatin, VSL3/Theralac/Saccrymycin, ALA, and NAC, as well as Dr. Zhangs Hepa#2.
She also told me to get a Reverse Osmosis unit installed for fresh water. She told me I need to drink a lot, especially when I begin Rife. She told me once I'm done with the antibiotics, then I can start Rife if I choose.
Anyway, I thought this was exciting news since I'd never heard her so excited about Rife before.
-------------------- I am not a physician, so do your own research to confirm any ideas given and then speak with a health care provider you trust.
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Metallic, please let us know if they seem to like one machine better than another or whether they like several. They might not be able to state that for fear of the law. I mentioned to my LLMD that I was interested in rife, specifically an EMEM, but he didn't comment on it although he said a lot of people were helped by rifing.
Sheryl
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METALLlC BLUE
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They do not support any particular machine.
-------------------- I am not a physician, so do your own research to confirm any ideas given and then speak with a health care provider you trust.
Rife didn't help me one bit.
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IckyTicky
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Hasn't helped me because I have not been able to try it yet... that said, I have a personal friend who recently cured his own cancer using only rife.
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springshowers
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Hello Icky.. Thats great news.. Does that person have a blog or a place they told their story?
I am trying to introduce this to my mother as a possiblity for her cancer treatment and a success story would be a nice thing to be able to read..
Thanks Let me know .
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tick battler
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For those of you like JR and wildcondor and others who say rife has not helped them, it would be so helpful to hear the details of your experience.
Can you share what machine you used and how often you used it and how long your sessions were and whether you herxed during or after it?
This is the type of info that would be really helpful.
Thanks, tickbattler
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I just scanned the posts quickly, so I may have missed this...
I was surprised that nobody mentioned "THE CANCER CURE THAT WORKED". I am told that Dr. Rife did prove rife in the court trial mentioned (post said one patient died).
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My sis and I have gone halve-sies on a couple of Lyme books, it is one of them. She read it and was very excited about it. I haven't read it, because of my brain fog, but I may be able to read it now. Maybe when hubby picks up my Rife machine he can get that for me, too.
I am going to check out your other post about the docu. Sorry, I didn't get back to you sooner. I hadn't marked to get emails notification, I have now.
Marnie
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Rife therapy, to work, requires the RIGHT frequency (scanned and pulsed) for the right amount of time using the most powerful machine made (which increases the depth of penetration).
It takes many treatments to be effective just as it takes MULTIPLE HBO "dives" to work...along with reducing inflammation simultaneously.
Bb is camped out in the MEMBRANES...very specifically the "basement membranes". Google that and see where they are.
Because it is so close to blood vessels, lyme becomes a vascular problem. "H16" is the category.
Healing takes TIME.
If antibiotics (alone!) worked, a few "rounds" should do the job.
Heating is key...how we heat the infected cells via "frequencies" or "lightwaves" or other means is key.
When our own defense cells are infected, Bb makes them "cold" and in we send the "de-icer" NaCl to Bb's pleasure...as it needs NaCl for motility and has a gene for Na-ATPase which does this: ATP-> ADP.
The infected cells are functioning solely on glycolysis (glucose for energy) and maybe becoming "immortal" (HeLa) cells.
Not good.
Bb triggers TNF alpha and (worse) IL1 B which together, in time will do a number on your pancreatic cells.
IL1 B blocks insulin release which activates an enzyme called PFK which Bb is dependent on....
Up goes glucose.
Many lyme patients develop diabetes, hypothyroid, etc., etc.
Porshe, do you know HOW your microwave oven works to heat foods (esp. those loaded with glucose)? Microwave ovens use frequencies.
And my Advantium oven cooks/heats with the "speed of light".
Before you try to say there is nothing to far infrared therapy too, you might want to look at this:
Recruiting Far Infrared Irradiation for Control, Management and Treatment of Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS) Condition: Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis Interventions: Radiation: Far Infrared Radiation (5μm to 20μm wavelength); Radiation: Far infrared radiation
Recruiting Far Infrared Irradiation for the Management, Control and Treatment of Frontotemporal Dementia Condition: Pick Disease of the Brain Intervention: Radiation: Radiation: Far Infrared Radiation (5μm to 20μm wavelength)
Recruiting Energy Specific Far Infrared Radiation Treatment for AIDS Condition: HIV Infections Interventions: Radiation: Far infrared; Radiation: Far infrared radiation
Recruiting Far Infrared Irradiation for Stroke Rehabilitation Condition: Stroke Intervention: Radiation: Far Infrared Radiation
Recruiting Far Infrared Irradiation for Management and Treating of Parkinson's Disease (PD) Condition: Parkinson's Disease Intervention: Radiation: Far Infrared Radiation (5μm to 20μm wavelength)
Recruiting Far Infrared Irradiation for Managing, Control and Treatment of Huntington's Disease (HD) Condition: Huntington Disease Intervention: Radiation: Far Infrared Radiation
Recruiting Far Infrared Irradiation for Managing and Treating Multiple Sclerosis (MS) Condition: Multiple Sclerosis Intervention: Radiation: Far Infrared Radiation (5μm to 20μm wavelength)
Scroll down to page 208 near the bottom...
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map1131
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Thank God. That's not just for us with lyme & company. There's this "C" disease that we must have change in treatment protocols.
Pam
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