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MattH
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Day 2

I started Salt/C yesterday. I am currently on the Bruhner Protocal, about 6 weeks into it. Starting very slowly only up to 2 capsules (making my own capsules, 1st Chinese Herbs) twice a day.

Will go to 2 capsules three times a day next week with the exception of Andrographis. Based on the posts I am taking that extra slow.

So I started the Salt/C yesterday. Started at 1/2 TSP of each twice a day.

I have been doing 6 grams of C powder in water daily so I do not expect too many issues in the start up phase.

My first visit to the LLMD was supposed to be next Tuesday but after confirming the appointment he said he is no longer taking new patients. So I thought I would try the Salt/C while I look for a new LLMD. He is still seeing my son.

MattH (no abx yet)

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YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!! That is WAY TOO MUCH to start with. You should only start with 1/4 tsp sea salt a day, or you can really have a VERY big herx.

I hope you are drinking plenty of water also. Check lymestrategies because these are the people doing the salt/c protocol for further guidance.

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Gael, I bought RealSalt per your recommendation a couple of months ago. Since I haven't started Salt/C yet, I've been using the RealSalt in place of table salt.

I think RealSalt is great, but when I compared its price to the Himalayan salt that can be obtained at San Francisco Bath Salt Co., I noticed a significant difference in price.

RealSalt costs $4.35 per pound if purchased at Vitacost.

So if you bought 25 lbs of it, it would cost $108.75

You can get 25 lbs of Himalayan salt at San Francisco BSC for $54.99.

That's almost HALF the cost! That's a rather significant savings.

How much would it cost you to ship 25 lbs. of RealSalt (in whatever increments you buy it) from Vitacost to your doorstep?

When you buy 25 lbs. or more of Himalayan Salt from SFBSC, shipping is free, so tack that on to the savings. That's huge!

If you buy a 50 lb. bag, it's $115.59 at SFBSC, a 47% or $102 savings over buying the same amount of RealSalt through Vitacost, which would would cost $217.50.

You may ask, who's going to consume that much salt? If Salt/C is something you're going to stay on the rest of your life as you have said, then yes, it is very likely that this amount can be consumed. Plus you can use if for mouth washing, tooth brushing, and other household purposes.

Or, if you know other people on the Salt/C protocol, you buy a big bag, split it up and save on the shipping.

Even if you buy the smallest quantity from SFBSC which is 5 lbs., that's $15.19 versus $21.75, a 30% savings.

Sorry to bore all of you with such a detailed cost analysis, but I'm an analytical person, I can't help it.

Oh, one more thing, for those who require kosher food, RealSalt costs extra for kosher. All of the Himalayan salt from SFBSC is certified kosher. SUCH A DEAL! -lol

So I just thought I'd pass this on in case anyone is interested in saving money.

Here's their webpage on the Himalayan Salt:

http://www.sfbsc.com/himalayan-salts

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Some people argue like Dr Mercola etc that himalayan or realsalt is better than celtic salt because of sea pollution.

I bought a kilo of himalayan so I will see how I get on with it......

Any thoughts? which salt is best???

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Probably true although splitting hairs.

I'm not crazy about the possibility that Himalayan salt is harvested by people who are hygenically challenged, shall we say, that sweat all over the stuff while loading and unloading the slabs on camels' backs. I've seen this on a national geographic program, I didn't just make it up.

I try not to think about that.

I'd go with the Himalayan anyway. My gut feeling tells me it's better, has more purity and mineral content.

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I will join you soon, also doing vitamin C powder and four lemons a day. Will slowly start some salt. 1/4 teaspoon sounds good to me.
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Day 4

1/2 TSP of Sea Salt
1/2 TSP of Vit C Powder
Twice daily

Have not noticed any effects good or bad. I will finish the week at that level.

I continue the Buhner protocol started almost 4 weeks ago.

MattH

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wow, I am only on 1/8 tsp vit c and 1/8 tsp seasalt and four lemons once a day.
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I much prefer himalayan to celtic salt. Much easier to take. I just swallow and then drink lots of water! Dr Mercola says its the best salt (although he does sell it!).Naturally each supplier of it says only buy our supply! Ah capitalism.......
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the Purest Salt on Earth"
(and Why You Want to Avoid Conventional Salt)
Salt is essential for life -- you cannot live without it. However, most people simply don't realize that there are enormous differences between the standard, refined table and cooking salt most of you are accustomed to using and natural health-promoting salt.

These differences can have a major impact on your staying healthy.

If you want your body to function properly, you need holistic salt complete with all-natural elements. Today's common table salt has nothing in common with natural salt.

Your table salt is actually 97.5% sodium chloride and 2.5% chemicals such as moisture absorbents, and iodine. Dried at over 1,200 degrees Fahrenheit, the excessive heat alters the natural chemical structure of the salt.

This Salt Is Over 250 Million Years Old
This is by far the purest salt available on earth and is absolutely uncontaminated with any toxins or pollutants.

Once I learned about it and how beneficial it can be for you, my team and I literally spent nearly the last two years working on having it brought over to the U.S. from Nepal.

I thought I would be able to provide this salt last year but to say obtaining this salt is difficult would be an enormous understatement. You see, the suppliers of this salt have no standard infrastructure available and we have to work through people that have no idea of how normal business operates.

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3.Promoting blood sugar health and helping to reduce the signs of aging.
4.Assisting in the generation of hydroelectric energy in cells in your body.
5.Absorption of food particles through your intestinal tract.
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7.Promoting sinus health.
8.Prevention of muscle cramps.
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10.Regulating your sleep -- it naturally promotes sleep.
11.Supporting your libido.
12.Promoting vascular health.
13.In conjunction with water it is actually essential for the regulation of your blood pressure.
The Typical Table And Cooking Salt In Your
Grocery Store Has Been "Chemically Cleaned"
What remains after typical salt is "chemically cleaned" is sodium chloride -- an unnatural chemical form of salt that your body recognizes as something completely foreign. This form of salt is in almost every preserved product that you eat. Therefore, when you add more salt to your already salted food, your body receives more salt than it can dispose of.

This is important as over 90% of the money that people spend on food is for processed food.

Typical table salt crystals are totally isolated from each other. In order for your body to try to metabolize table salt crystals, it must sacrifice tremendous amounts of energy.

Inorganic sodium chloride can keep you from an ideal fluid balance and can overburden your elimination systems.

When your body tries to isolate the excess salt you typically expose it to, water molecules must surround the sodium chloride to break them up into sodium and chloride ions in order to help your body neutralize them. To accomplish this, water is taken from your cells in order to neutralize the unnatural sodium chloride.

This results in a less-than-ideal fluid balance in the cells.

You Are Losing Precious Intracellular Water When You Eat Normal Table Salt
For every gram of sodium chloride that your body cannot get rid of, your body uses 23 times the amount of cell water to neutralize the salt. Eating common table salt causes excess fluid in your body tissue, which can contribute to:

*Unsightly cellulite
*Rheumatism, arthritis and gout
*Kidney and gall bladder stones
When you consider that the average person consumes 4,000 to 6,000 mg of sodium chloride each day, and heavy users can ingest as much as 10,000 mg in a day, it is clear that this is a serious and pervasive issue.

So Why Are Many People Still Using Table Salt?
Because well over 90% of the world's salt is being used directly for industrial purposes that require pure sodium chloride. The remaining percentage is used for preserving processes and ends up on your kitchen table.

With the use of rigorous advertising, the salt industry is successful in convincing you there are actually health advantages to adding potentially toxic iodine and fluoride to salt. In addition, your table salt very often contains potentially dangerous preservatives. Calcium carbonate, magnesium carbonate, and aluminum hydroxide are often added to improve the ability of table salt to pour. Aluminum is a light alloy that deposits into your brain -- a potential cause of Alzheimer's disease.

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With chemical dumping and toxic oil spills polluting the oceans at an alarming rate, most of today's sea salt is not nearly as pure as it used to be. Himalayan Crystal Salt is pure salt that is mined and washed by hand -- with zero environmental pollutants.

Today's table and cooking salt is void of the vital trace minerals that make this Himalayan crystal salt so precious. Crystal salt has spent over 250 million years maturing under extreme tectonic pressure, far away from exposure to impurities.

The salt's unique structure also stores vibrational energy. All of the crystal salt's inherent minerals and trace elements are available in colloidal form -- meaning they are so small your cells can readily absorb them.

The Crystal Salt from the Himalayas does not burden your body as other salts do. It is very difficult for your body to absorb too much crystal salt since there are powerful and effective feedback loops that regulate this process. Natural crystal salt always promotes a healthy balance and does not contribute to high blood pressure like typical table salt.

Crystal Salt's array of elements forms a compound in which each molecule is inter-connected. The connectedness allows the vibrational component of the 84 trace elements present in the salt to be in harmony with each other and adds to the ability to promote a healthy balance. When it comes to the power of natural salt, nothing compares to Himalayan Crystal Salt. Here's why:

*It is the highest grade of natural salt.

*Under an electron microscope, crystal salt has a perfect crystalline structure.

*It is mined by hand and hand-washed.

*Crystal salt is immune to electromagnetic fields

*Crystal Salt contains no environmental pollutants.

*There is no limited shelf life and no need for silica packets to prevent clumping.

Key Minerals in Himalayan Crystal Salt Promote a Healthy Balance in Your Body
Himalayan Crystal Salt is salt in its native form, with all its vibrational energy intact and it helps promote a healthy balance in your body. Promoting balanced electrolytes helps to keep your body in homeostasis -- the balance of chemicals that is conducive to the body's function.

The renowned Frezenius Institute in Europe analyzed the Himalayan Crystal Salt and proved that it has an amazing array of important trace minerals and elements including potassium, calcium and magnesium that help promote a healthy balance by maintaining fluids and replenishing your supply of electrolytes whenever you sweat heavily. (This salt does not supply iodide, a necessary nutrient.)

Himalayan Salt vs. Sea Salt and Rock Salt: A Crystal Comparison
Many people believe sea salt is a healthy alternative to table salt, but this is no longer the case. The oceans are being used as dumping grounds for harmful toxic poisons like mercury, PCBs and dioxin. Reports of oil spills polluting the sea are becoming more frequent. With some 89% of all the sea salt producers now refining their salt, today's sea salt simply isn't as healthy as it used to be.

If you were to look into a microscope at sea salt (pictured left) you would see it has irregular and isolated crystalline structures disconnected from the natural elements surrounding them. Thus, however many vital minerals it may contain, they cannot be absorbed by your body unless the body expends tremendous energy to vitalize them. Your body's net gain is small compared to the great loss of energy.

Because the crystalline structure of crystal salt is balanced (pictured right), it is not isolated from the 84 inherent mineral elements, but is connected to them in a harmonious state. This means the energy content in the form of minerals can be easily metabolized by your body. When you use this salt it has a vital energetic effect. Your body gets an ample net gain with little energy loss.

Mined salt, or rock salt, is also a poor substitute for Himalayan Crystal Salt. While natural rock salt comes close to being intact and is more valuable than industrial table salt, from a biophysical as well as bio-chemical perspective, it holds little value.

The elements contained in rock salt lack sufficient compression to be included in the crystal web, but are only attached to the surface and in the gaps of the crystalline structure. It is the considerable pressure that brings the elements to a colloidal state - where your cells can readily absorb them. The valuable elements found in rock salt are useless because your body cannot absorb and metabolize them.

A New and Different Way to Experience
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Not only is Himalayan Crystal Salt far healthier for your body than commercial salt, its taste is unforgettable. Once you try Himalayan salt, I can promise you that you'll never want to use commercial salt again - I know I don't.

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You'll Stop Conversations in Their Tracks
When You Bring Out This Eye-Catching Platter...
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Other ideas for your Himalayan Salt Kitchen Slab...

*Arrange thin strips of raw grass-fed organic beef on your chilled slab and watch as the salt cures the edges. Or try your hand at curing a batch of wild Salmon Gravlax.
*Chill slab in the freezer overnight and serve ice cream on top for a beautiful presentation and delicate salty-sweet goodness.
*Transfer the preheated slab to your dining table and grill fresh seafood or sliced free-range organic chicken breasts right in front of your dinner guests (be sure to use a heavy trivet as the slab retains its heat for an hour or longer).
Cleanup is a breeze - lightly scrub off any remaining food particles with a dry brush and store for next use. Avoid contact with water or other liquids.

Please note that when used for cooking, the translucent appearance of your salt slab may change and small fissures in the crystal may appear. This is normal and does not affect the performance of your salt slab.

To preserve its luminescent beauty as a chilled serving platter, I recommend you reserve one slab for cooking and use another for serving only chilled foods.

Order one or more Himalayan Salt Kitchen Slabs today and introduce a little fun into your cooking routine!

You Can Also Use Himalayan Crystal Salt as a Bath Soak
Not only is Himalayan Crystal Salt far healthier for your body than commercial salt, its taste is unforgettable. Once you try Himalayan salt, I can promise you that you'll never want to use commercial salt again - I know I don't.

And here's a unique way to enjoy Himalayan salt's slightly sweet-salty goodness with your food...

Featured on several top cooking shows, Himalayan Salt kitchen slabs have become the newest sensation for extraordinary food preparation and presentation.

Measuring a generous 16-1/2 inches by 8 inches, and a full 1-3/4 inch thick, this beautiful translucent pink crystal salt slab serves as a cooking and curing surface, and a lovely way to present chilled foods.

To grill or saut� with your Himalayan Salt Kitchen Slab, simply preheat your slab over a grill or stove and toss on your favorite sliced meats, seafood, vegetables or eggs. The Himalayan crystal salt sears your food to perfection, with a just a light touch of heavenly salty flavor.


Incredible Deal!

From Dr mercola.com
He also says the low salt regime is a myth

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Day 6

1/2 TSP of Sea Salt
1/2 TSP of Vit C Powder
Twice daily

Have not noticed any effects good or bad.

I continue the Buhner protocol started 4 weeks ago. I just increase the eleuthero and andrographis starting yesterday.

MattH

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maybe people should be warned that celtic salt is not the best choice for the salt/C protocol???

On lymestrategies there is very little ongoing discussion of salt/c. Also people are censored there from talking about the problems there are having with salt/c. Some people dont do well with this protocol may due to salt sensitivity or using the wrong salt etc.

A pity because an objective discussion is needed.

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Wallace,

I haven't seen any censorship on lymestrategies about talking about the problems they might be having doing the salt/c protocol.

I have seen comments as far as how important it is to do the protocol correctly and to RAMP UP SLOWLY. The most problems are with not following this advice, and or not drinking enough water.

I have used Himalyan and Celtic sea salt in the past. I currently use Real Salt which i have had excellent results with. This protocol along with antiparasitic herbs has literaly saved my life.

Gael

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Wallace,

I haven't seen any censorship on lymestrategies about talking about the problems they might be having doing the salt/c protocol.

I have seen comments as far as how important it is to do the protocol correctly and to RAMP UP SLOWLY. The most problems are with not following this advice, and or not drinking enough water.

I have used Himalyan and Celtic sea salt in the past. I currently use Real Salt which i have had excellent results with. This protocol along with antiparasitic herbs has literaly saved my life.

Gael

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E.G
http://www.lymediseaseresource.com/New_Salt_Protocol.html

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There is a facebook group. just type salt/C lyme.

Also Gary also known as lymenurse has some videos on salt/c.

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http://www.lymediseaseresource.com/New_Salt_Protocol.html

Here is a website of someone who had trouble with the salt/c protocol. His protocol:

Substitute 1 gram of sodium chloride tablet with 1 gram Himalayan Mineral Salt capsule and substitute 3 grams of Vitamin C with 1 capsule of Apple Poly (which works out to 4 capsules of Apple polyphenols and 12 capsules of Himalayan Mineral Salt per day for me.)

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garys video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAuDQZ0GOXc

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