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Hi Gael and Deb,

Hope you guys and everyone else is feeling good today.

Deb, I so appreciate all the information links you provide. Thank you!! I just looked at the last one and I'm so glad you posted that.

I wasn't really convinced I was herxing. I was hoping but not until I read your guys posts and the link didI believe I am.

How exciting. I can handle this so far. Other things I've tried were to hard on me.

I also have been experiencing heart palpatations and that also has not happened in a long time. They don't last long.


And last nite I started to feel a couple pin pricks, one on my thumb.

It was like a deep pain than pin prick sensation.

I looked down and there was red where the pain was and a little white bumb in the middle.

I thought mabe an insect bite but the deep pain didn't make sense.
I noticed one or two other pin prick sensations but didn't pay much attention to it.

Mabe it's the little buggers trying to get out!

My muscles are more fatigued than usual.


I did check my blood pressure yesterday and it's usually around 117/77 .

It was 128/79. It was after I went to the doctor which my blood pressure has been known to go up to 140/85 because I never know what to expect with doctor visits. I'll check the BP today too.

My Father has highblood pressure and heart disease. So I will take this very slow.

I'm glad you all are here!

Fancy

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Hi Everyone,

Just wanted to check in. I am on this protocol for 2yrs and can see and feel the infection leaving.


Three yrs ago my hands were really swollen and red with cuts all over them.

The redness and swelling are almost gone as the infection is leaving the small intestine. I am not experiencing any more cuts on my hands.

My brain fog which was one of my biggest symptoms is finally clearing. The burning pain is only slight. I am on 15-20gms of salt/c a day.


Hopefully this will continue. Waiting to see how everyone else is doing today.

Peace & Light,

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CHECK IN FOR DAY 8
Hello. I am feeling pretty good today> i would say it is a 3 out of 5. Even almost near a 4 and I would say 3.5 lol.

I was feeling a clearing today and I took my salt and it feel good to take. I am going to be interested in how the week goes and if it is like the first week and maybe It will build up by friday to feel not so good again

I did start my period finally today and that was buidling and a few days delayed and that made it hard for me as itis always a tougher time each month. Even saying that ..

Today is not too bad ,. and i now just feel the extra painful cramps. the whole weekend I was just so feeling aweful .

So I will be honest and I can not yet tell what the salt is affecting for sure and or not and i will need more time to evaluate and then look back and make some connections.

KNow what I mean>>
I know you all do.

I am glad the articles helped. They helped me too..! Great.! Glad your tolerating it ok but still see and feel it is doing something..
Will keep in touch ... for sure.. and always looking for everyone elses comments too.

There was a couple people on here I think that said they would be doing this that I have not seen.. I wonder if they will be back..'We will see.. It helps for sure to hear from others.

Today is a good day and I am glad..
Funny that I say good. The word good for me is a 3 out of 5., When i say bad it is a 2 and horrible is a 1 and then 4 is great and 5 is like amazing like I have not felt in ages..

Its funny because when i say it i catch myself and think that others may think or relate that word to a normal person... And i am not near that yet.. but its a good day for me in comparison to my being sick on a level 1 or 2 and not so often 3 and rarely a 4 and never a 5...

Hope that makes sense.. I am sure it is hard to rate eachother or to know what eachother means as it is all relative to our own path and illness history etc.'

DATE STATED SALT C : 12-2-08
KIND OF SALT : Eden Sea Salt French Celtic
KIND OF C : Bluebonnet Buffered C Crystals
AMOUNT STARTED : 1/4 tsp (I am 6ft tall and 215lbs)Optional
HOW IT IS SPLIT UP: 1/8 tsp am +1/8 tsp pm of each
PILLS OR LIQUID : Liquid drink combining Salt/C
ABX ON or OFF : On
ABX KIND DOSAGE: Ketek 400mg M W F weekly

INCREMENT TIMING AND AMOUNTS

12-2-08
1/4 tsp total
1/8 am and 1/8 pm each of Salt and C

12-9-08
1/2 tsp total
1/4 am and 1/4 pm each of Salt and C

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Hi fancy..

I also have blood pressure issues sometimes at the doctors office but then when i start double checking it like at the pharmacy or have it done at other times it is fine..

Same as you .. it goes up to like the most of 140 over 88 .. or something. and I go Gosh!!

Then when i research it I am just at around 128 over 78,

It is not usually low like some others on here but as well i am overweight and gained 60 lbs the first year i was sick and last year I dropped 10 of it finally.

Hoping that might be a good sign too and as well I started thryoid meds..

it all has to get back into balance and then I know it will come off. Diet and excercise are not enough and I have had a few months when I was doing somewhat better enough to walk or swim and really ate so well it was crazy and no weight comes off..

It is going to do it its own way.. and i can tell when i feel better my metabolism and all the hormones and all of me tries to start up like a dead car and sometimes I run for a few miles but I still die back out again.

I can not wait to take a long trip in the car and turn it off when i choose to.. (to sleep) LOL

Hope you got that analogy..

Deb

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Hi Fancy,

Yep, those little bumps can definitely be the parasites trying to escape the salt. That's what happened to me.

You might see little cuts appear. Don't be alarmed. The salt extracts infection just like if you soak an infected finger in salt.

They went up and back and finally came thru. It will be interesting to see what happens. Keep in touch,

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CHECK IN FOR DAY 9:

Hello. I am feeling very good today. i would say it is a 4 out of 5. Better than yesterday.. And I am on my period even!!!

Ok I am actually feeling like .. its a too good to be true day ecs after this weekend.. But here I am..

My pain level is down. My fatigue level is down. I felt good when I woke up and woke up early. .No problem. WOW WOW

I feel clear... I feel happy.. I feel like have more energy than normal and well... its a good feeling.

I am taking the salt c as indicated below. And started back up after a weekend break on Monday.

I will admit to seeing some stringy type things in the toilet yesterday and some other odd looking items that may be some of the things others say come out of them.. I assume the first ones to come out will be from the digestion directly...
Very interesting...

So anyway..> I am not sure again what to think or if this is directly related to the Salt C or not. I still need time to tell and I bet after about a month I will be able to make more conclusions.

I hate to jump or assume anything too quick.. There are many variables.. But then again. I have been on a certain road for months and this is the only change I have made recently..
So.. it must be it???

What do you think?

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PS..

As well I do still feel good about taking my ABX as well that I take MWF.

.Before starting the salt I would feel quite ill the next day and I am seeing a short trend of the feeling that the Salt C is helping erradicate the toxnis and bacterias that the abx is trying to kill or does kill before they can be reabsorbed back into my gut or other organs like the liver and kidneys etc.

This is a proven fact by many doctors and they are always talking about ways to help make sure you are getting the toxins out of the body as opposed to them doing what they naturally would do and get absorbed back into our system..

I can sense that this is helping me based on how I feel the next day after the ABX now as opposed to weeks ago..

Just a comment and observation..

The reason or the connection may be from another part of the salt c therapy such as alkalinity or some other affect that the Salt C is doing to my body that helps with Detox or Herx reactions..

We will see in time..

So far>> Looking GOOD>>

And maybe this weekend was a Salt C Herx??? MAYBE>> just maybe it was.....

IT felt like my other herxes but even more like my herx when I and before I start my period..

But also there was an addded feeling in there overall as I could feel the salt in my system.
Interesting feeling. My blood felt different.

I could tell it was not the same as usual during this Herx.. Just that added feeling I had not felt before..

A bad herx.. plus this other feeling makes me think the Salt C has something to do with the Herx but not the only reason.

For now.

THANKS
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Hi Deb,

That good feeling is probably from all the great minerals in the sea salt that our bodies so desperately need.

Also the salt is an alkalizer and a bacteriocide. Glad you're doing okay on the salt/c so far,

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Stringy things huh? sounds like your stirring up the worms and chasing them out. That's really a good thing.

Better out than in I say., Keep going Deb, You are a trooper, gael

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You are intentionally taking more than needed, NaCl = sodium chloride?

Do you have a dog?

Do you use Frontline on that dog to prevent lyme?

Do you know HOW the ingredients in Frontline work?

They block the chloride channels.

Salt DOES kill many OTHER pathogens. This is why we gargle with salt water when we have sore throats and why we salt meat to preserve it (other pathogens begin to turn it rancid).

The channel Bb upregulates is TRPM8. This is a Ca-Na channel.

Look at my photon transfer post (animation link from a neurology website). See what happens when photons enter the cell -> transducin -> Na-Ca channel CLOSES.

A primary infection with a dangerous pathogen that is depleting our nutrients often sets the stage for OTHER pathogens to invade and replicate (as seen often in HIV).

Which does indeed complicate the picture...a LOT.

What is the impact of Na-vitamin C (raising the pH ) on lactobacillus?

"Lactobacillus are able to live in highly acidic environments of pH 4-5 or lower."

Impact on yeast?

"Sodium chloride enhances the potential leavening ability of yeast in dough"

Leavening = CO2...

CO2 is great for lyme...

Lots to consider, think about and evaluate.

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Here is what I know for sure from personal experience only. The salt/c is killing Lyme, babs, bart, parasites, worms, viruses, fungi and more.


It is the only thing that has really, really worked for me after 30 yrs of being sick. I am not making any claims for anyone else.


Marnie, appreciate your input, but this thread is for salt/c group reporting progress.

Would you mind moving your post to other salt/c thread that is for info purposes so we can stay on track here.

Thank you very much,

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Reminder Everyone,

DRINK LOTS OF WATER Eat foods rich in potassium and magnesium like bannana, potatoes, leafy greens. Hope everyone is doing well,

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Are the questions for me??

You are intentionally taking more than needed, NaCl = sodium chloride?

>???
And the dog and frontline questions.. I do not get it and where is that coming from??

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Update..

Well I took my salt c tonight.. And I actually like how i feel when I drink it. I have noticed it helps my digestion and as well i have been feeling more sleepy and able to fall asleep... a bit better.. Not cured my insomnia by any means.. But something I noticed.

And well.. I am feeling a clearing of sorts today that is nice..

I will leave it at that.

So.. I am not complaining nor am I having any side affects or reactions to be concerned about.

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HI,

I was trying to figure out whose Marnie questions were for too. I do believe it's best for the other thread of information.

Thanks Gael and Deb for addressing me.


Yea, I think it was the doctros visit that elevated my blood pressure.

I tested it the past couple of days and it was `117/76. I'm so glad.

I've been in alot of head, neck, jaw pain the past couple days. That has nothing to do with the salt. Just what happens to me.

If my blood pressure stays down I'll up the salt.


Deb,

I know what you mean about the normal and range of feeling good or bad.

It's like I have a new normal that isn't anybody elses normal I know. Except for on lymenet.


Gael,

I was thinking it's so nice to have you here on this thread.

Your experience of being on this protocol for two years and your willingness to share is a comfort. Thank you.

Fancy

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I wanted to add,

Like Deb, I drink about a gallon of water a day I'm always thirsty. Even before the salt. Actually since taking the salt I'm not as thirsty. It seems to satisfy me a bit.


Gael,

Thanks for the tip on the eating the greens. I had green beans and spinach salad last nite.


In the morning after I take the salt/c I sometimes feel like a burning tingling sensation around my jaw joint and jaw muscles.

I have TMJ/TMD my jaw muscles aren't able to keep my jaw in place as they should.

So I wear a nite and day device. I sure hope that means that the salt/C is knocking the hell out of those pestering little bugs [bonk]


After I take the Salt/C I instantly feel a subtle pulse of energy. I think I mentioned that before sorry if I did. It's pretty cool.

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Hi Fancy

I am glad to hear from you. that jaw stuff sounds painful .
I bet the salt is getting in there.. I sure hope so.

i too feel a burst of energy and like a claming clearing affect.
It is nice.

As well I have been afraid to really determine or say everything because i have seen some big improvements and i am a bit leary as to what is going on or if it is a temprorary thing.

I hope it is going to stay and build...

I had last weekend where I felt so horrible I thought ok. its my period.. and it is a herx from the abx .. or it is all and a flu bug in my stomach..
it also could have been a herx from the salt... as I did feel it building all week..

But this seems to be a bit simple already.. and maybe too good?
I felt better immediately in the first week and as the week went on by friday I crashed..

Then on Monday it cleared and I this week feel better and better.
less pain and fatgue and I actually am feeling normish... like at night I fell asleep at the computer.. Ok thats is a NEVER!

And my eyes are getting tired and I am falling alseep! Did you hear that?? LOL> that is amazing to me...

I do not know what to say but.. I thought I better say it.. It feels amazing. I slept like never before.

I got up and felt like I had slept. I do not know how to act today.

Is this going to continue?? Or are the herxes to come.??

Lets see. as well I wrote on the other post. i have doe a ton of detox stuff this year. I think i am a bit ahead of the game.. Maybe that will help limit the herxing or . I do not know. i am not sure.

LIke I said before. time will tell.

Been eating greens too and am on a kick of my own fresh made vegeable soup with some chick broth and a bit of chicken in there too.. I eat it every day and it is so cleansing to me too..

I eat no grains and no dairy ...
Only sometimes brown rice when i want my stir fry of fresh veggies i will top it on some brown rice.. But minimal.

And thats it.. fish and chicken breasts only on the meat side.

Anyway.. THANKS for the support and kind words.
Glad you are seeing some good things yourself and are feeling positive.

Deb

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Hi Fancy,

Nice to hear from you and I am really glad i can be of some comfort to you while you are going thru this.

I would like to address the jaw pain/tmj. I had this very severe in 1983 and had to wear a bite guard.


Fast forward to this period of time. A few weeks ago I woke up and my jaw and gums were swollen.

I got scared at first and it dawned on me that the salt is trying to pull the infection out.(like when you soak your finger in salt water and it draws out the pus.)


I relaxed ate some yogurt, drank more salt/c and as the toxins were expelled thru the intestines and out into the toilet, the swelling in my gums went down and so did my jaw.(took about a week)


I also brush my teeth and gargle with Listerine. It contains antparasitic ingredients such as thymol. I highly recommend this, especially if you have jaw symptoms.


I can tell you first hand that the pain in the jaw is coming from parasitic worms. Even after 2yrs I had a bad herx pain as the infection was dying.


Hang in there and know that you will get rid of this infection even if some of the herxes get rough.

Just stop and listen to what your body is telling you. Take a break when you need it.


If you have any questions don't be afraid to ask.

Hope today brings more healing for everyone,


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I just want to add, that a lot of us are salt deficient and dehydrated.


There seems to be a correlation between these facts and infectious disease.

I think I sent Deb info on this, hopefully she received it and can post it for me.

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Hi Deb,

That's exciting that you feel so good today. I'm sure it will continue all day!

I love your excitement. I could feel the positive energy through your post. That was pretty cool.

I know what you mean by being hesitant about saying anything about your improvements. I'm glad you did. It lifted me up.


I also relate to the ------"Is it a Herx? Is it the Lyme symptom? Or....Is me loosing my mind?" Sometimes I just don't know.


But since the salt/C, the fact that I have had some symptoms that I haven't felt in 4 to 5 years. At least not so often tells me it's doing somehing.

Plus the link you gave us on what people have felt with the salt/c.

I hope your day continues to be great! Gaels too!

Fancy

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It finally dawned on me what Marnie was referring to about the frontline. Jamescase20 was talking about his experiments with his darkfield microscopy.


Deb, being the kind supportive person she is was sticking up for James who was geting bashed for his out of the box thinking. Marnie had the need to put her down for this.

I guess she(Marnie) was putting down the salt/c protocol in a sarcastic manner as well.


Really, why do people feel the need to this instead of focusing on their own healing? (just so ignorant)I will leave it at that. Just wanted to help clarify.


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Thank you both for your kind words.

Hi Gael,

You and I must have been posting at the same time.

Thanks for sharing about your jaw pain/ tmj Interesting about the thymol.

I have a couple tubes of strong herbal toothpaste that I quit using a long time ago. I will locate and use them again.


I wanted to ask you and Deb about baths. I think I have heard both of you mention that you do detox baths. What exactly to you use?


And Gael, do I remember you saying you do clear water enemas?

If so may I ask why you don't don't do the Coffee? I also heard that some people do green tea enemas? May I have your opinion?

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Thanks Gael for clarifying Marnie.

Ahhh, too funny. I couldn't agree with you more!

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Deb, being the kind supportive person she is was sticking up for James who was geting bashed for his out of the box thinking. Marnie had the need to put her down for this.
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Wonderfully said Gael.

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Hey, Fancy,


I was doing clear water enemas. I just felt for me they were enough. I also didn't know how adding anything else to the enema was going to affect me and I was herxing enough.


I take showers, but I used to take baths. I think Deb is the bather.


I have heard people add epsom salt to their bath, but I would research this first because I think some people had bad herxes or reactions to this. Maybe not.

Don't forget the skin is the largest organ and absorbs everything. So check it out first. Hope everyone is having a really nice day.


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Hi Guys,

I can't believe I still have internal vibrations.(herxing) I can feel the infections leaving daily tho.

Thank God for Salt/c,

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Hi there...

TO Gael and Fancy

THANK YOU SO MUCH for your kindness and the support and for saying it so OUT lout.

It was nice and it made me smile. : )
[Smile]

You have been so sweet and it sure makes a difference! And you have helped me so much by just talking to me and with me.. ...

it sure makes a huge difference.

Not sure what the problem is with the person and the frontline joke.. But haha.. I can laugh it all and I will not let those sorts of things or people bother me or get me down.
Even though on a site for healing and sharing and helping.. it sure is confusing to see it happen...

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This is from Bather LOL

here is a a link Fancy to the post I started about baths and I listed some I found and have used.. You can use the ingredients lists alone as well as in combo.

Sometimes I do a simple one and sometimes I put the works in there and really try to detox a lot.

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=074666

I know the bleach sounds weird.. but it is disinfecting and it is pretty potent. I felt that one for a couple days and dont do that often.

i am good on Epson Salt and for me it is the milder one...
The extras I have tried just do various things for either detox or for relaxing or for muscles etc....

Give it a try.. I wait to shower for while and put my robe on and shower a couple hours later... .. but.. we all do it different.
on same days I just take the right after...
it all takes time and sometimes I just do not have that level of patience day in and day out..

Well. Le me know if you try it or how you feel..

I have not done the enemas ... Yet.. : : )

How is your days???????

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MY day.

I started out well and am still doing well and had a good day.

I had a bad head ache and all the way down into the back of my neck.. it hurt but.. it has released.

I was doing well enough to just forget my mid day dose of pain meds.. Ok. Not ready for that.. It did get my attention this evening by saying. Hey hey. ouch ouch.. You are not ready to be skipping any pain meds dear!! >> My body was talking to me..

Funny.. but thats what we do. I talk to my body and it talks to me. I will say I am bit upset and how my body has not cooperated well through the years..
But she promised to make it up to me.. : )

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DEHYDRATION..........


A good guideline to know if you are getting enough water. If your urine is very clear, like you can read thru it, you are getting enough water. Just a helpful hint for the day,

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Gael

I have had near clear urine most of the time and now that I upped the C so much and since I added B vitamins. Hot yellow... bright and clear .....

But great advice for some who might not realize they are dehydratded

Now I just need a solution to keep me from going to the potty every 30 minutes to an hour.. ...

It is sure hard and disrupts my day and my sleep and anywhere I go i have to plan out my bathroom route or know where it is and when i can get there etc.

I will say I grew up weting my bed and as well not able to hold it in the classroom. So this is not only from now???

But it sure is worse since being sick yes
I grew out of some of it in my 20s and 30s but never was normal.

Now i would love to find a way to not go through this..
BUT it has not been on the top of my list of things I need to resolve..
This one I can live with if i have to..

Not some of the others..

Deb

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OK I forgot to ask something.

Last night again I slept like I have not before and it was nice.
But here is the question.
I did wake up a few times to go the the potty.

Now near when it was around 6am.. I went to the bathroom and when i got up I noticed that the whole side (one side) of my body felt tingly and achy.. weird and hard to explain..

It was the side I do sleep on most... but it did not feel like it had fallen asleep such as when blood flow is stopped..

It was not like that.

it was an achy and just strange sensation like something settled onto only that side of my body.. Like a chemical. LIke as if I had taken something that needed to be dispursed evenly but as I slept it settled to just that side of my body that gravity was pulling on..?

Ok. I know this sounds weird..

Well I literally was shaking it off this morning. It took about an hour for the sensation to settle down and then it left and was gone for the rest of the day..

Just an odd thing .> I am not sure I will figure this one out and i will see if it happens again.

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I get that a lot along with tingling and numbness. The salt is a VERY powerful bacteriocide.


I think it is just a herx. Don't forget the salt makes the critters crazy, and they are on the run.

It is also possible that you have Bells Palsy of the gut. I have/had it. There is a good article on her that Dr. Virginia Sherr wrote about.

Type it in the search bar and it should come up,

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Deb,

Thanks for the bath recipes. They really look yummy. I think I'll have to start relaxing in a hot bath again.

I started taking showers because I was spending too much time in there and couldn't get anything done,


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Hey Guys,

Deb, thanks for the link on the baths. I will let you know. I have not yet experienced the sensation you speak of.


Anyone know where Sammy is? It would be great to have him on this thread. Does anyone know if he knows about it?


Yesterday turned out to be a good feeling day. Today still in question.


I believe I'm leveling out on this dosage of salt/C.

I take in consideration what Sammy told Deb on the other thread about herxing every 3 to 4 weeks.

Although I am getting anxious to up the dosage. I don't know yet.

I hope everyone is doing well today.

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Hi Fancy,

Good to see you her today. Sammy maybe herxing and not feel like posting right now. She posted a couple of days ago. I'm sure she'll pop on soon.

What dose are you on now and how long have you been on it? You can ramp up and if it's too much cut back.

Anyway, let us know,


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Hi Gael,

I'm doing 1/4 tsp salt and equal grams of C. Once a day in the morning.

I believe it was November 24th(give or take a day) when I started with an 1/8 tsp for the day.

Dec. 1st (give or take a day) went to 1/4 tsp a day. I now have started a calender for the amount data. so no more dah, I think it was...... [Smile]

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Hey Guys

Here is a little chart i started on the bottom of my original chart to keep track of how and when i am incrementing.
To show others too..

DATE STATED SALT C : 12-2-08
KIND OF SALT : Eden Sea Salt French Celtic
KIND OF C : Bluebonnet Buffered C Crystals
AMOUNT STARTED : 1/4 tsp (I am 6ft tall and 215lbs)Optional
HOW IT IS SPLIT UP: 1/8 tsp am +1/8 tsp pm of each
PILLS OR LIQUID : Liquid drink combining Salt/C
ABX ON or OFF : On
ABX KIND DOSAGE: Ketek 400mg M W F weekly

INCREMENT TIMING AND AMOUNTS

12-2-08
1/4 tsp total
1/8 am and 1/8 pm each of Salt and C

12-9-08
1/2 tsp total
1/4 am and 1/4 pm each of Salt and C

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For anyone new and maybe confused.
The dosage you take is a combination typically of both the
Vitamin C and the Salt in equal amounts combined.

That gives you your therapy and then you will take a certain amount of this combined therapy each 24 hours.

Some people I have seen do not take equal dosages of each and will sometimes take something like 1/2 tsp of salt and 1 gram of C. So it can be confusing to read each persons choices but once you understand the concept you will be able to.

As well some people write out in grams. and Gael explained that well. Below is a chart for grams to tsps and tsps to grams

1 tsp = 4.76 grams
1/2 tsp = 2.38 grams
1/4 tsp = 1.19 grams
1/8 tsp = .595

For Vitamin C it usually is given in mg form and
1000 mg = 1 gram
500 mg = .5 gram

Therefore what a lot of people do is consider:

1 tsp to be about 5 grams and add 5000 mg of C to make the combination of therapy they take and so forth.

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Thanks for posting that info Deb.


THE ORIGINAL INFO ON THE LYMEPHOTOS SITE IS ALWAYS EQUAL AMOUNTS OF SALT TO EQUAL AMOUNTS OF VITAMIN C.

Fancy, if it were me, I would increase that another 1/4 tsp each salt & vitc which would take you to 1/2 tsp each of salt & C.

But of course do what you are comfortable with. Are you herxing? Any new symptoms? Let us know, Gael

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Gael.. In your recommendation.. to Fancy.
DO you mean increase 1/4 tsp of each Salt and C to give a total of 1/2 tsp of both together per day???

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Sorry, If I wasn't clear.

If you're taking 1/4 tsp a day of salt and 1/4 tsp Vit C and you increase the dose 1/4 tsp to 1/2 tsp each it's always per/day.

When and if you start getting into the higher doses then the dosing is divided. Example: I am up to 20gms p/day.

I would never take it all at once. I take 5gms (1 tsp) 4x a day. That would then = 20gms.

I think it will become clearer when you start increasing the doses. (Brain fog doesn't help)

If this is not clear, let me know. When your ready to increase the dose you can pm me and I can walk you thru it Okay?

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This salt/.c is really killing these infections as little more everyday. I was worried a few months ago that it wasn't working as well.

Looking back, I think I was just having some strange symptoms.

It is clear how strong this salt is against these bugs. I hope everyone has the same results,

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CHECK IN DAY 12

Hello. Well first off I did not sleep like I did in the prior days this week last night. After I finally did go to sleep after battling a bad headache all night I woke up again to that tingling and numbish wierd feeling down the side of my body. It is down the right side of my body and I am thinking last time was down the left side. Ok I will have to look back. That is weird. I woke up with the heachache.> ouch. I have to admit I did some cheating on my diet last night and had some dessert I should not have. I had thought this is why I was not feeling so well. Maybe Or a combination. I also told you all that Saturday was my toughest day because of also the ABX treatment I am on.
I have seen weird things in my toilet> Not sure what to think of it. Trying to match it up to the pictures online. A few different ones that may match. Still trying to figure this stuff out. Yikes. IT is interesting and intense. I am up and around though so it is a level 3 day and that is good even though I am hurting. As well I have all over pain and my bath yesterday helped some and I have not yet done that today yet but will.
THANKS for listening. Would love to hear from others.

DATE STATED SALT C : 12-2-08
KIND OF SALT : Eden Sea Salt French Celtic
KIND OF C : Bluebonnet Buffered C Crystals
AMOUNT STARTED : 1/4 tsp (I am 6ft tall and 215lbs)Optional
HOW IT IS SPLIT UP: 1/8 tsp am +1/8 tsp pm of each
PILLS OR LIQUID : Liquid drink combining Salt/C
ABX ON or OFF : On
ABX KIND DOSAGE: Ketek 400mg M W F weekly

INCREMENT TIMING AND AMOUNTS

12-2-08
1/4 tsp total
1/8 am and 1/8 pm each of Salt and C

12-9-08
1/2 tsp total
1/4 am and 1/4 pm each of Salt and C

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Hi Deb,

Well it sounds like the salt/c is really starting to work, The numbness(which I still get) is part of the herx.

As I posted on the other salt/c thread, everyone can have different/other pathogens that will be dying off depending on what we have ingested over the years.


Like sushi, fish, rare meat, pork, etc. Can you try and describe what you saw in the toilet? Sorry about your not feeling well.

It may not always be what you ate that made you sick. Remember you are also herxing and it's always stronger during a Full Moon.

Feel Better

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Is there really any bit of validity to the strong herx during a full moon? Scientific proof? It seems so far-fetched. I told my wife and she laughed out loud and thought I was an idiot. I persoally don't believe it.
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Hi Seek,

Do a search on here under full moon and I think you will find some interesting info.

I know as a trauma nurse, there was always a big increase in activity.


A good friend of mine who is a retired homocide cop said things would get crazy during a full moon.


Let us know what you find. How are you feeling?


Interesting stuff,

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Hi guys!


I love full moons!!! I believe that could be true.

Gael, Trauma nurse, wow, Good for you! my Brother in law was a nurse in the ER. I don't know if that is the same.

My mom is a retired RN. Critical care unit is where she worked.

I'm not feeling the herxing so much anymore. So I think I will up the dose today.

I do have a question.


I thought it was equal grams of vitamin C and salt? Not volume. LIke I take the Ester C 750 mg. 1/4 tsp of salt is about 1 1/4 salt so I take equal grams of vit. C not volume.

Vitamin C comes in different strengths.

isn't that what the protocol is? I guess I'll have to check the website again. but let me know what you guys think

does that make any sense?

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Hi Fancy,


Yep you're right. It is equal gms of each not volume.

I also take the ester c 750mg. 1/4 tsp of ester c is 1.13 gms....it's so close to a gram I wouldn't worry about the .13.


You can find that info on the back of the bottle.


Deb seems to be herxing since she increased the dose to 1/4 tsp in am and 1/tsp in pm which equals 1/2 tsp for the day.


Sooooo.......let us know.. how you are doing when you increase the dosing.

Hope this is clear.


Good Luck and keep in touch,


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OOPS

Typo on Debs dose. I meant 1/4 tsp in am and 1/4 tsp in pm which equals 1/2tsp for the day. Sorry about that.

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Hi Gael,

Thanks for clearing that up. I was starting to get confused. [Smile]


I don't think it's really a big deal like you said but I did wanted to clarify just so we are on the same page.

I looked at the bottle and it says 1/4 tsp equals 1.13 grams. In weight not the grams of C. It says it has 750 mg ester C in each serving and a serving on that product is 1/4 tsp. plus it has calcium 82 mg. and the bioflaviods 75 mg.

It gets a little confusing for me sometimes when we talk about strength vs. Volume.

Fancy

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