quote:Originally posted by beaches: I know all about neuro-lyme and your story just doesn't ring true.
I take a break from the internet for some shoveling the past week, and I come back and you are still making fun of my neurolyme symptoms. How old are you guys?
If my story 'doesn't ring true" then why are there numerous sources of Lyme symptoms that list cognitive issues like:Confusion, difficulty thinking, difficulty with concentration, reading, spelling
quote:you opted to malign a broad group of people who happen to be mothers with your generalizations/assertions/assumptions about "mommy blogs" and the like.
I'm not maligning people. If you procure sources from the bowel of the internet (+ points if the website replaces "S" with $) and places like "natural news" or "greenmed" I am less likely to take it seriously. Why? Because #agenda. Especially if many of those sources are known to take information out of context and make money catering to a specific crowd prone to that type of thinking. I am a multiple sources kind of person.
And yes, I don't take information from blog posts (unless claims are backed up) or personal anecdotes of your friends mother's child as fact. That doesn't mean I am mean to 'mommies" trying to care for their children. Perhaps you wouldn't be so up in arms about my reference to "mommy blogs" if it wasn't true.
Believe me, my cousin gets all her vaccine info from websites she read on the internet (VACTRUTH!!) and talks to people like they just don't get it. It's refreshing to know that Modern AlternativeMoma is considered an expert in all things medical. Which isn't to say I don't agree with some of what she says, but she not a vaccine expert, that's for sure.
quote: You have NO idea of anyone's education or professional affiliations here, yet you continue to assume yours are superior to others.
No, that is how YOU feel. It is obvious that the problem here is how threatened you feel by other opinions that don't align with your worldview. I am the one here who has been continually insulted as a deflection so that the people I asked questions to don't actually have to respond.
It is true that I have worked in a biological research lab and taken statistical analysis courses, so yes my background would make me more qualified to understand things. That doesn't mean I think i am RIGHT all the time.
If you can procure a study that proves MMR causes autism, by all means. What I have only seen posted is a list of 28 links, most of which were not independent, did not even mention MMR or autism, and only one stated "more research needed." Getting mad at me isn't going to change those facts, and involving me in some sort of elaborate conspiracy isn't either.
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Answer to your quote, is that what you meant to say? ---- thought you would know this already.
========================================== "If you can procure a study that proves MMR causes measles, by all means" ==========================================
Case of vaccine-associated measles five weeks post-immunisation, British Columbia, Canada, October 2013
We describe a case of vaccine-associated measles in a two-year-old patient from British Columbia, Canada, in October 2013, who received her first dose of measles-containing vaccine 37 days prior to onset of prodromal symptoms.
Identification of this delayed vaccine-associated case occurred in the context of an outbreak investigation of a measles cluster.
Therefore, the combination of classic measles symptoms, detection of measles vaccine virus and reactive measles IgM, and lack of evidence of an alternative illness explanation, were highly suggestive of measles vaccine-associated illness.
Millson D. Brother-to-sister transmission of measles after measles, mumps, and rubella immunisation. Lancet. 1989; 1(8632):271.
----------------- And how would the public even know if it is vaccine strain and not wild measles in an outbreak since they rarely test to see and would they even let the public know if it was?
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Whatever you guys want to do, just read lymenet in the last 10 years.
SO MANY people swear they fell sick AFTER a shot, either with lyme symptoms (appearing exactly after a vaccine), or with worsening of lyme symptoms to the point of no return (to many) that I wonder...
Gigi was an old lymenet member: she lost a baby 3 days after a vaccine shot: sudden infant death.
Too many parents SWEAR their babies died after a shot. Medical doctors always deny the relation, so you won't find any clue to vaccines in their reports of death.
Who shall we believe? Medical doctors or thousands of parents??
Would you really trust medical publications?
Most medical doctors deny we are sick with chronic lyme either!
Well, go figure who you trust: parents or doctors?
Papers will never say children die from vaccines. The doctors who write about such deaths do not admit any relation whatsoever, from start!
I'd rather have my child get measles than the vaccine of measles. Measles is just one more infection, among thousands. We had fought so much in the last decade. Infections are treatable, in my opinion, with different methods.
Vaccine damage is hardly treatable. You got to live the rest of your life with it. That is my opinion.
If I could come back in time, I wouldn't have given A SINGLE shot to my daughter. Possibly one shot after the age of 5. But nothing else.
Dr K is not for vaccines either. I'm pretty sure his daughter is not vaccinated (even though he can't say that publicly). But you can 'get' his view by his discourse.
Being a parent and deciding for our kids is very hard. Only parents of a chronically sick child know how much in on our shoulders.
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Which isn't to say I don't agree with some of what she says, but she not a vaccine expert, that's for sure. 
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