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Hey all, I've already posted a preponderance of questions on babs. related stuff, but I've got one more... There's a decent chance I'll statr Mepron this week...how often does it actually cause or exacerbate depression? I already have it, so I'm just curious as to what I might be in for?
I started mepron a week ago, and I was only expecting possibly nausea--I didn't realize until recently that it can exacerbate depression, and even cause hallucinations sometimes.
So far, I don't feel that it's affecting me or exacerbating my depression. I have what my LLMD calls moderate depression, and it gets worse at certain times.
But, I'm only a week into mepron...I may have a different story for you soon!
Gena
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I would work up to full dose. My daughter started out of the gate on two tsp daily. By day four, she was seeing things crawling by in her periphery.
We backed off. By the fourth week..BAM...tears aplenty and hasn't let up much. Nights are worse.
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I was depressed the whole dang 4 months I was taking Mepron. Luckily I did not see any ants that were not there but I had a real ant invasion that went on all summer along with ugh water bugs/field cock roaches so I had no need to see any bugs that were not real with a house full of real ones.
I felt the whole time I was on Mepron that I was on one weird bad drug high. Once I was told that I was cured of babesia and to stop taking the Mepron I felt normal again.
Now I am on half a dose of Malarone a day for Babesia and it is not making me depressed at all.
I hope you do not get depressed while on Mepron but if you do there are other drugs besides Mepron that you can try and the Mepron did not work to get rid of my babd anyway after 4 months. Granted I think my first two bottles of Mepron might have been tampered with too.
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The Ticklettes have some other ghoulish songs they would rather do but I had to put my foot down about some of their song picks and in so doing so I accidentally killed two back up singers.
I think I might go see Dan Hicks June 2. I am actually surprised the guy is still alive.
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When I filled my first perscription for Mepron. I got 3 bottles. I only paid $25!!!!!! I'm getting another perscription, and this time I'm getting 4 bottles to last 3 months, and that will cost me $25!!!!
God, I love BC/BS PPO.
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Well I only paid $10 total for 4 months of the stuff but I would have paid lots more to not have to take it.
The left over Mepron I plan on using to do art work with.
I like making sunflower greeting cards. I may be famous one day for my Mepron art. Already I am going on Letterman with my Tickelettes.
Does Malarone make one delusional too?
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Jason, Vanilla - you scored! My co-pay is $200 a month for Mepron. Ouch. I have BC/BS PPO too - just a different state. Maybe I need to move?
Vanilla, if you're going to keep putting your foot down & killing back up singers, you want me to ship you some extras? I've got a yard full, and they're ready to go!
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Karla, I don't know about babs in the bladder, but many people on Lymenet have bladder issues, so you might get more info with a search or if you start a separate thread about it. It seems possible to me that it's babs related, or at least TBI related.
Also, stress can cause a major flare up, so if you've been under a lot of stress that could be a player in your recent experiences, too. I hope you feel better soon.
Adam, not everyone has depression with Mepron, but some do... Let your doc know that you're concerned about it. Oh yeh - did you find an LLMD?
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I talked to my LLMD yesterday and told him how I have been on mepron 7 days now and still I haven't herxed and actually felt pretty good.
Just last night when I went to bed I felt it coming on...those tingly chills! I spent the whole night in a cold sweat!
Today I'm more exhausted than normal because I just couldn't sleep. Do these sweats happen every night? What about every day?
Adam, I still don't have any more depression than usual! I'm praying that stays that way, but since it seems things are only just beginning, who knows???
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Hey Gena, congrats! The yellow paint is working. Hang in there, it might be a rough ride.
It's different for everyone, but for me, the first time around on Mepron (almost 2 years ago) the sweats were more intense at night, but all day too. With alternating chills and hot flashes.
I could sleep in a 67 degree room with the ceiling fan on full blast and still feel too hot, at times. Nothing like your own private summer...
It lessened with time.
Much easier this time around (I'm treating a relapse)... although I still have the sweats, too.
Keep us posted on your progress!
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As horrible as last night was, I have to say I'm happy to know that the fun yellow stuff is actually working!
I'm going to have to sleep by myself. My poor husband couldn't sleep because our dog was trying to play nurse to me all night. We have a Boston Terrier that sleeps in the bed and had to have known something was wrong. He kept sleeping practically on top of me, and sometimes when I woke up he was sitting up looking at me!
Cactus, did you have the cold sweats every day? I have noticed that so far today I have them a little, but like you said not nearly as bad as at night.
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My daughter's palms are dripping during the day.
Be ready for this, too. Sometimes you get real STINKY. She sat in the sauna yesterday and I had to air it out.
She was actually running a "normal" temp yesterday.
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Gena,
When the Babs flares for me I get alternating chills and sweats. Very often wake up sweaty, an hour of so later go back to bed with 2 blankets and shaking chills wake up hot and mildly feverish...
Sometimes this alternates all day and sometimes only cycles once. I run a lot of evening fevers.
Kelmo, Sweaty/clammy hands and feet are one of the reasons I realized I need to treat Babs. (I am also completely heat intolerant.)
I used to be able to wear sandals but now my feet slide right out of them. I wear socks all the time to keep my hands and feet dry. For some reason not having wet feet helps the hands.
Man, when I came here and read the symptom list I was floored. All those symtpoms that were being written off by docs as peri-menopause for 15 years were Babs sx. (I also had a positive test 9 years ago that my ex-LLMD insisted was self limiting.)
Vanilla, Personally, I do think Malarone can make one delusional but, to date, have not had any hallucinations. More's the pity.
Though, I do seem to have come out of my weeping phase, for now. Stress and emotional stuff has been taking it's toll. Yeah, I needed that SSDI review to come right now.
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Thanks everyone for explaining all that to me...Do the sweats get more intense as time goes on? Last night was no fun, but doesn't seem as intense as what you guys are describing.
I also thought I was in perimenopause...then I was CERTAIN I was in early menopause. My hormones were out of whack and I was treated by a hormone specialist for a while, only to find that of course the drugs didn't work for long because the true cause was the tick infections.
I was so relieved to find out what was wrong and not just be chasing symptoms anymore.
The "stinky" thing was interesting. But it makes sense! The bad stuff is coming out!!
Ok, here's a gross symptom for you...Do any of you have post-nasal drip? I have had this for years.
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Trueblue I hope everything goes smoothly with your "interview".
Just pretend they are aliens that just came out of a space ship and they will be leaving right after the interview to go back to Mars. Picture them in pink tutus while they are talking to you.
Cact I would love to have some new back up singers but no need to send any. I have plenty here who are lining up to get interviewed.
Not all of them can even sing. I have no idea how I am going to get the new ones up to speed in time for Letterman.
Rolling Stone of course is trying to book an appointment for a interview.
Fame is happening so fast I think I will need to hire some PR people soon.
I am starting to think Malarone might make one just a tad delusional but the jury is still out on that one.
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My daughter's SSDI interview is tomorrow morning. Due to the overload at the office, they insisted on a phone interview.
All we want is a letter of disability. That way she can stay on my husband's policy. We aren't even pressing for compensation. Although that would help with out of pocket expenses.
Good luck True...let us know how it goes. I think of you often.
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Good luck to you and your daugther with the interview tomorrow. *crosses fingers and toes*
Other than the one nasty, innapropriate woman (who I have since reported) everyone at SS has always been very nice to me.
Vanilla, I haven't got an interview I have 14 pages of forms to get filled out. I'm in no condition to be doing it right now. Having difficlty organizing, proiritizing, using things like calendars... It involves 3 narratives and I'm not sure I can ever write them.
The forms came with a letter that said if you have problems call and they'll find someone to help you. So I called and was told, "nope, no one in this area".
Thanks, though, I'm trying really hard not to think about it and am obsessed at the same time. I haven't found anyone to help, either.
sorry I have been through this before and this review is being done because they lost my last one from less than 2 years ago. I never saw this coming and there was no warning. /rant
Gena, yeah to post nasal drip but think it is more living in the south than TBDs. I had it on and off up north but it's constant year round here. (I've been using Xlear nasal wash and that helps some.)
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True wishing you good luck and with the paper work.
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Gena, I'd kick the dog out of bed before I left!
Okay, I'll have to make that it ... I'm having a bad flare and that's the only thing I can remember from all I've read!!
Oh, yeah, I have Anthem and pay $25 per month for my Mepron.
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Kicking the dog out of bed isn't as easy as you'd think! We have put him in his kennel and he cries and cries...And of course we reinforce his behavior by letting him back in the bed!
Six, I'm sorry you're flaring...Feel better soon.
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Thanks. This flare started with a cold ... last Monday I caught a cold. Two other family members caught it, too, but it was pretty disabling to me ... I'm thinking it must be the Lyme because most of the symptoms are Lyme symptoms. Is it normal to flare with a cold?
Unfortunately, my herx is due in two days.
Yeah, dogs can be harder than kids. I'd put him in the kennel and use ear plugs. I now wake up at the slightest noise, so I wear earplugs or hubby keeps waking me up all night.
I'm just funny about needing to sleep in my bed.
Hopefully the sweats will go away soon. I seldom have them anymore.
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Why hasn't anyone complained about the crazy dreams on mepron. Oh boy was I sooooooo disturbed by my wacky wacked out dreams. If I didnt lose my mind then I guess I never will.
Buying quinine water tommoorrow to go with my malorone, art, biaxin and valtrex. Yiperooni!
Malorone is working well for me.
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woohoo! go Heather!
I have wild Artemisinin dreams. phew!
Maybe I need some tonic water, too, I'm not progressing at all.
I'm treating for almost 20 weeks. I seemed to herx really badly between 3 and 4 months and am worse than when I started. I am not having fun.
I don't know what I am doing wrong. I don't want to do this. Why can't anythign get better, even a little.
*looks around* this is the place I'm allowed to whine, right?
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I used to have dreamless sleep; I wish I still did!
Six, I always flare when I get a cold. If someone is sick around me I start overdosing on all the supplements I can, because what's a little cold to someone else usually knocks me on my butt for days.
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I'm sorry you've been feeling worse...I guess you're herxing???
I'm confused. The night before last I had the cold sweats and as miserable as they were at least I knew the mepron was working.
Last night nothing happened. I told my LLMD just a few days ago that I wasn't feeling anything from the mepron and he said I should increase my dose. I haven't done that yet because I had the sweats a day after he said that.
But last night, nothing. I do want to know the disgusting yellow paint is working!
Trueblue, I hope today is a better day!
G.
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hi everyone,
i am feeling like a dog myself today. I am up to about 10 g/day of amoxy in addition to the malarone, just in the last couple of weeks, and it is working (on my brain!).
I have my classic tight muscle-herxes, in addition to the brain fog herxes. Just got the name of an acupuncturist to see, cannot wait to treat this symptom. Due to lyme and babs, I have had very tight shoulder muscles for years now!
True, good luck with your paperwork! Everyone, my best wishes for your health.
Someone mentioned getting cold chills from babs treatment? Just wanted to say that was worst during my first two months on malarone. Better now, though still occasional chills. No more night sweats unless the AC is not working!
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Hi everyone,
Gena, I have a friend who only had the sweats one or two nights - until she added artemisinin. I also think everyone is different - some people seem to think the herx at week 3 or 4 is worse.
True, how's the paperwork?
VT, sorry you're feeling so bad - I'm right there with you on the tight muscles. Ouch. Does acupuncture help?
Vanilla, Six, and all the others who've had watered down Mepron - I think I'm joining the club.
Posted about this in the Mepron bottles and seals thread, but my latest "partial" unsealed bottle is like the consistency of milk, not our beloved house paint. Doesn't taste right either. What do I do??
Oh, and the Mepron dreams are a doozy!!! Crazy stuff. How can a med do that to our brains?
Everyone else, I hope you're well... Cactus
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Cactus, thanks for the mepron info. Just wish I knew if this is just how my body reacts to it or if I need more, or to add artemisinin or what!
And all this watered-down mepron business...It makes me so angry!!!!!!
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Ok, have to give y'all the latest update on my new made for TV drama, "As the Mepron Gets Thinner"...
I took both my bottles back to the pharmacy and showed the pharmacist how different they were. He saw it right away, said it shouldn't be that way, and offered a replacement.
Here's the thing - I watched the tech fill my replacement bottle, and she really shook the stock bottle, so it came out thick (yum).
But then I watched while she combined 2 other partially full stock bottles into one larger bottle, and she didn't shake them well enough.
It came out thin and watery. She noticed (since it was the topic of conversation) and tried to shake them up better, but even I could see that she didn't get all the thick goo to come out of the bottle.
So now their combined stock bottle is probably diluted?
I don't think it's deliberate, I just think it's stupid. I think it's the pharmacy techs who don't shake the bottles well enough.
Not sure what to do about it... Any ideas? Maybe those little packets?
For now I'm going to go do a sunny yellow foot soak, and wait for the new Ticklettes CD...
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Packets! No problems for me with those. And, as WC pointed out, you can move about with them. If I am out to dinner (which is rare) I can just take out a packet and suck it dry of the thick murky gunk. No mess or spoon or carrying a bottle around.
I don't like the storys of watered down Mepron. That stinks.
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Cact I would call GSK and tell them that by the time their million dollar yellow goo reaches you for whatever reason it is not as thick as it is suppose to be. This should be a concern of theirs that their product is being compromised over and over again.
They need to hear it from all off us so maybe one of these days they will do something about. The little packets are too costly on a product that already is too costly they need to make smaller bottles which they can afford to do.
It is bad enough to have to take the goo and taste it daily and to swallow this junk in the hopes that it might kill some bugs.
It should at the very least be thick enough to be doing users some good. It did nothing for me after 4 months of choking it down. Maybe if my first two bottles were thick enough it might have worked.
I hope everyone here feels healthy and sunny and better shortly!
Regarding the upcoming CD and CD release party - As soon as we finish recording Milkshaking Mama - in a couple of weeks the CD should be out.
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Cactus, the only suggestion I would have is to go to a different pharmacy and hope they have better routines in pouring the meds. I've never had a problem with the smaller bottle ... my whole order was thinned down ... I think they took two bottles and stretched it out to fill the order.
Vermont, ten grams!! My LLMD just added amoxy and said to start out with one 500 mg. pill three times daily, then each day up each dose one pill until after four days I'm taking four pills three times daily.
Well, after four days, between the amoxy and the cold, I was really hurting. I can't imagine ten grams. I think I need to ramp up slower than that. I went back to one pill three times per day.
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Ok, a while back we were talking about the paranoia on mepron and the crazy dreams.
Lately I've been dreaming that my husband is bored with me! REALLY bizarre dreams!
He is my soulmate and a wonderful man, and I know this isn't happening, but instead what it is is that I feel I'm letting him down because I'm no longer the "vibrant" and sexy woman I think he always saw me as.
He is so supportive, but I feel like I'm nowhere near the person I used to be and this must be difficult for him.
My fears are coming out in crazy, scary dreams!!
And still no cold sweats, just the one night. Guess I should increase the dose or add artemisinin like my LLMD said.
I can't imagine the horrible dreams then!!
I hope everyone is having a decent day...
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I have'nt read all the contributions on this thread and until recently never had the displeasure of drinking mepron....
I have concluded (by adding my personal experiences to the thread posts) that at any given time durring this disease....
we lymies can and do have sweats,dreams,depression etc....as part of a herx reaction to whatever abx we're treating with....
I have had all these symptoms with at one time or another and had never been on mepron once...in nine years....
I think it's just coincidental...as I am now taking mepron and I don' have the depression or crazy dreams I have had on other abx's....I think
it's just when or where we are in the phases of our particular strains....and our bodies reacting to the fight we are waging against the strains...
I have noted my sweats and hot and cold feelings a little more with the mepron....but not the psychological stuff...
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True. My daughter had her phone interview with SSA yesterday. The woman was very kind to her. She said that she had Anna's LLMD in their database. She was also shocked how much medication she was taking.
We didn't even talk about supplements!
Hope yours went well. Haven't heard from you, so you must be exhausted.
By the way. I cracked open a bottle of Dr. Zhang's art and took one capsule yesterday. It wasn't long before I started a headache and felt really tired. This morning, I felt athsma symptoms.
I may start taking them every other day then work up.
There was a message in my inbox imploring me not to take art. So, it is a little frightening. We may or may not continue with it.
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Kelly make sure you get a liver panel done first because my acupuncturst said it can be a hard on the liver.
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Dr. does monthly liver panel checks. My daughter and I are always low normal. We have had to give up the detox tea we drink lately due to mepron not liking it, or something like that.
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A few things that helped were taking low-dose iron supplements, CoQ10, and provigil.
Celebrex--which can have side effects--and Jarrow theanine also helped.
Provigil actually turned the whole thing around. It can make you a little too Sandy Duncan for other people's taste, but it greatly improves your concentration. A week after starting it, I was suddenly able to research online and found some additional malaria drugs that got rid of the stupid thing.
Mepron also caused liver and kidney problems when taken longterm. These can affect your energy levels.
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I believe CoQ10 interacts with Mepron.
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I was told the same thing about CoQ10 from an LLMD.
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quote:Originally posted by liz28:
Provigil actually turned the whole thing around. It can make you a little too Sandy Duncan for other people's taste, but it greatly improves your concentration.
A week after starting it, I was suddenly able to research online and found some additional malaria drugs that got rid of the stupid thing.
liz-- that is hilarious, I wonder what happened to Sandy Duncan?
More importantly; what malaria drugs was it that got rid of your babs? Thanks!
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I hope everyone's hanging in there and starting to have some happy good days!
Hey, a while back we were comparing Mepron co-pays... I forgot to mention that when I called GSK about the runny Mepron, they told me that they have several programs - not just Bridges to Access - and they have some kind of reimbursement program for people whose insurance under covers their drugs.
Kelly, did you get a positive test, too? I'm sorry to hear that, but glad that you have answers to some of your questions. Let us know how it goes on the art...
I'll be adding in art this week.
My LLMD says no to the Co-Q10 when on Mepron, too. Also no milk thistle.
Speaking of supplements, anyone want to share what they're taking & what's working well for them?
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My tests haven't come back, yet. I decided to try the artemesia (400mg) Hepapro brand. I took one on Thursday, and had a headache that lasted all day. I felt wiped out. It lasted into friday, so I decided to start every other day and see what happens.
Saturday, I took one and my muscles hurt when I worked in the yard a couple of minutes. It wasn't strenuous. It was passing, and I was able to walk the dog later.
Today, I had breathing problems, brain fog and fatigue. A little low headache and heavy head feeling. My stomach also ballooned up making me look pregnant.
My daughter said those were part of her early symptoms, she could recognize what was going on.
I must be hitting something. I'm really not looking forward to this process. But, I was thinking that if I am swimming alone and have a seizure, that would not be good. I need to be around for my daughter.
I don't want to count my chickens, but I really feel a little herxy.
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Ok, supplements...My LLMD had the lab draw 51 VIALS OF BLOOD--I didn't know I had that much to give--but I found out a lot about what I need.
I'm taking an under the tongue chelator for my mercury issues every morning on an empty stomach. (Can't remember the name right now). I knew I was toxic for mercury months ago, in fact I thought that was the whole problem because the symptoms are so much like Lyme.
But then something told me have a Lyme test "just to be sure" and found Lyme. (But that's another story!)
I'm taking iron, the "ferrous heme" kind--supposed to be the best kind.
Also I'm taking NAC. It helps with energy and with making gluthione.
Ginkgo Biloba, LOTS of Omega 3's (pure)because I don't make enough of something that makes and opens capillaries, Vitamin E, and a regular multi-vitamin.
Oh, and probiotics, of course.
I found an website that sells the supplements wholesale and I seem to save a lot of money. You guys probably know about it, I'm sure.
I WAS taking Mgc6 to help with increasing my NK cells (mine were very low) but I just stopped taking them because I realized CoQ10 is also in them and I know that it makes mepron less effective.
I NEED the disgusting yellow paint to work!
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Kelly, your symptoms certainly do sound herxy... There's a lot on your plate right now, so if you can, try to take it easy. Will you be seeing the same LLMD as your daughter, I hope?
When I tried going straight to 400mg of art last year, it was intolerable by day 3. Hopefully taking it every other day will help prevent something like that.
I added in art (a wimpy 100mg) today, and haven't felt anything new yet. My LLMD asked me to work up to 400 mg daily, but to go at it slowly. So I'll add 100 mg more every week for a while.
Gena, thanks for sharing your supplement info! I love vitacost, too - really seems to have the best deals.
Ok, here's my current list (in addition to Mep, zith, omni, plaq, and art), I've been doing the same thing for quite some time, so it could probably use some adjusting:
Methylcobalamin injections (daily, ow) Theralac probiotics DHEA (I was deficient) Carnitine (I was deficient) Magnesium Malate (helps with energy) Multi-vits/mins Fish oil Detox foot pads (do these count?)
I've also just ordered S. boulardi (can't spell it, sorry), and I'm thinking maybe I should add something for detox but I don't know where to start...
Healthy thoughts to all, Cactus
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51 vials of blood!!!!! Who says doctors don't bleed their patients anymore. Nowadays they bleed their patients under the disguise of "blood tests."
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I was looking at all the nail polish colors today at Whole Foods and you guessed it they had one that looked like a perfect Mepron match.
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Ooooooh, Mepron yellow toenails, here I come!
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My LLMD just added amoxy and said to start out with one 500 mg. pill three times daily, then each day up each dose one pill until after four days I'm taking four pills three times daily.
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