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Who states there was 70 ongoing trials of H5N1/Egypt.
We have been given H1N1 and Seasonal. I would like to know if Ukraine also received H5N1/Egypt.
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banning of public gatherings are among the harshest measures in Europe against the H1N1
virus. Yet Tymoshenko has not forcefully advocated for people to get vaccinated against
the virus. "I am not vaccinated," she said in a television address this week. "I am protecting
myself like everybody, with lemon, onion, garlic, everything that is needed. I think the best way
is simply to protect your health through well-known means." Yushchenko, meanwhile, has
urged people to get vaccinated immediately.
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I'm getting confused. H5N1 is the `bird flu' (avian) virus, correct? Well, the current H1N1 swine flu virus contains the avian flu virus gene, along with a couple of H3N2 genes from Eurasia.
Which is all very interesting, but I have no idea what it means.
Canadian Broadcasting reported Friday that the Ukraine government is `over reacting' to the recent surge in illnesses, probably for political reasons, they suggest. Note that neither the severity of the illness nor the rapid spread is specifically noted. Well, the CBC isn't one of my favorite news sources anyway.....: http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2009/11/06/h1n1-world.html
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Scares me and yes confused. But I do not think this
is just politics. While it may affects the
politics, because of the upcoming elections.
Sadly. Now they have a shortage of everything,
including lemons. There are 19 countries who have offered humanitarian aid.
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Anonther scare tactic. When death count reaches hundreds of thousands - that would be legit concern, otherwise you have better chances to die in car crash
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Ukraine and World Pneumonic Plague Information
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What I would like to know:
What percentage infected in Ukraine were vaccinated?
and
What percentage who died in Ukraine vaccinated?
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Good Luck Can. No one can find out what WHO has
found so far either. And even the news agencies are
staying away from it..
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Austria: Baxter; One to Watch/
Thanks, PL
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No One wants to even mention the Plague. I will
because it is necessary. If this is plague the last
one took 4 years to dissipate. And no we do not
have a vaccine for it. You must know how to prevent
before you have to fight it. We have talked a lot
about that here. There are reports that 6 doctors
have died. With this one I had rather be
extremely cautious, but not panic. I want to be
prepared. The lack of news, including denials on
news, makes me think, yes I
need to prepare.
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Still you wouldn't take the vaccine?
I wish WHO would give us figures on how many of the ill were vaccinated
Plus, my understanding of flu vaccines in general is that they are unreliable; has that improved?
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Um...we both know what the plague is...
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There are also reports that police took patient case files, most likely for WHO officials to try to figure if any common ground.
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I re-read my post: In case you didn't catch that: I'm saying the plague has been here for a while; it's vector borne, like the previous one...
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Yea I know. Bugs rule this world. Look at us. Anyone know which of the 10 antibiotics I have on
hand is considered prophylaxis for plague? I
remember taking some kind of chocolate stuff when
my 2 yr old sister had meningitis but that was
years ago. I seriously doubt very many doctors do.
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There was a TED talk a while ago that discusses how much of our body weight is bacteria, and how they chat:
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Wow that is tremendously helpful. I guess I should get a package of both...but how to know which strain to treat for?...
"Pneumonic plague is the most deadly form of plague but least common. It can be spread through airborne droplets released through coughs or sneezes, or through contact with infected body fluids. It can also be spread through contact with clothing or bed linens that have been contaminated with infected body fluids."
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How sad and horrible!
I couldn't read the article.
I personally believe all land mammals can contract Lyme disease.
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I can't believe I'm talking about Plague here,
but with over 200,000 cases of Lyme why not?
Without early treatment, patients may die. Early treatment of pneumonic plague
is essential. To reduce the chance of death, antibiotics must be given within
24 hours of first symptoms. Streptomycin, gentamicin, the tetracyclines, and
chloramphenicol are all effective against pneumonic plague. Antibiotic treatment
for 7 days will protect people who have had direct, close contact with infected patients.
Wearing a close-fitting surgical mask also protects against infection.Plague
is an infectious disease that affects animals and humans. It is caused by the
bacterium Yersinia pestis. This bacterium is found in rodents and their fleas
and occurs in many areas of the world, including the United States. Y. pestis
is easily destroyed by sunlight and drying.
Even so, when released into air, the bacterium will survive for up to one hour, although this could vary depending on conditions. Pneumonic plague is one of several forms of plague. Depending on circumstances, these forms may occur separately or in combination:
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That's 200,000 new cases / year
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You know that would absolutely contradict what we
have been told. Antibiotics will not work for flu,
don't bother. If it is vital to get them within 24
hours, why not bother?
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The plague was a bacteria. I do think that abx will help with the "flu", as the real issue has to do with secondary infections.
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Yes, thats why they told the people in Ukraine
to get to a doctor right away. No delay. Seek
treatment immediately.
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Thanks for the updates.
As for preparation for the plague, I've got my homeopathic remedies all accumulated and ready for most deadly diseases and bio-terrorist attacks, including plagues.
The article claims that death rates in the Ukraine are 10 times those attributed to H1N1 cases in other areas, so far. There are some new points raised in the article which are worth reading (though the article is a bit long).
Have you noticed that in the past 15 years or so, absolute power of assessment in any given health situation has always devolved to governmental entities such as the CDC, the WHO, or the UN. Why? This is the equivalent of saying that local doctors, medical examiners, and coroners are incapable of empirical observation and reporting about what they see in a localized situation. Why do we need a team of international experts to verify what local authorities find? Does it really take outside experts to confirm that people are dying with their lungs full of blood? I don't think so and I'm bothered by that. At lot.
It's a different story when there is a pressing need to determine the cause of the problem, i.e., whether it's a virus, the plague, etc. Then outside experts are often required. But we can't even get objective reports about the initial observations at the local level.
What troubles me most about this is the lack of coverage by the `lamestream' media; nothing from any major network or cable news outlets, nothing coming over the AP wire or out of the BBC.......
We are in a near-complete media blackout regarding this story, and it all started over a week ago.
Then there's the paucity of information available about adverse events from the swine flu shot here in the USA.
I, too, would like to know how many deaths and hospitalizations occurred in people who received either the seasonal or the swine flu shots - not just in the Ukraine but in every country. There's been enough time get some preliminary data, at least. But frankly, do we have accurate information from past years in that regard?
Perhaps we should all start hammering our favorite media outlets and demand to know why there has been no coverage on the Ukraine situation, the adverse event reporting, etc.
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Tracy I started a week ago and yes total blackout.
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I just sent a joint e-mail to Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck. I got a confirmation that my e-mail to Beck was received.
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There is also a report of one of their top virologist dead. But I can't find a link.
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Oh, one other thing.... in that article I posted about, it talks about 'shedding' of the vaccine virus. This is something we haven't even talked about, but we should.
quote:Public health authority, Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz sees a deadly connection between governments and the drug cartel over dangerous, toxic vaccines. On You Tube, he recently warned that:
"These vaccinations contain highly unstable viruses that easily mutate, because they are 'live active' laboratory mutants that are being administered....People shed these 'live' viruses up to three weeks following vaccination. That means if you haven't been vaccinated, and you get near someone who has and then sneezes, you can get their H1N1 laboratory infection."
He explained that anyone contracting H1N1, from vaccinations or other Swine Flu-infected persons, risks combining it with other internal or environmental viruses, creating a lethal mix that can kill. He expressed great concern about vaccines used to transmit dangerous viruses, capable of mutating into deadly ones, believes this may be happening in Ukraine, and thinks America and other nations may be next.
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WHo says Globally there is not enough antivirals.
Who says it has not changed from previous virus.
Virus very stable.
Antivirals early for patients immune compromised-blaming it on docs for withholding causing severe illness.
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Advice on home remedys WHO asking network for evaluation. no recommendations
Absolutely no mention of hemorrhagic illness.
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You are right Truth. With the reports of animals also getting this I think they fear it could cross. But so far WHO says it is very stable.
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If you go up to my response and look at VIP = vasoactive intestinal peptide
That is the neurohormone responsible for whether or not we are "fat"!
In mice, when a particular enzyme is *inhibited* can eat more and weight less.
The enzyme is ACC2.
When we inhibit that enzyme, we shut off fatty acid synthesis.
The pathogens are so much like us...they need fatty acids,and glucose.
But WE...
Can substitute ketones for energy instead of glucose.
Which is WHY we are encouraged to exercise, to burn fat to make ketones.
Too many ketones can do kidney damage, so we have to be careful. But our brain and heart love ketones.
We can survive a LONG TIME on ketones and water alone.
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My brother in West Virginia has 4 kids. The oldest got the live vaccine at school by mistake -- the nasal spray is live vaccine and is not supposed to be given to immune compromised patients (she has asthma). She got the swine flu and so did the 3 youngest kids (none in school yet) -- the baby also developed pneumonia. My mom also had the swine flu -- probably got it from the kids as well.
The only one that was vaccinated was the oldest girl who gave the flu to everyone else !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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They think its ok cos' he got regular flu shot. Not swine flu shot.
They know there will be casualties. There always
is. They conduct their mission as whats best for
the masses? Or what is best for the drug
companies that make and sell the vaccines? That
is what people will soon have to decide. It is
like taking charge of LYME we don't have....
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Watch the DVD "Medicine Man" with Sean Connery.
Listen carefully to the numerous times "swine flu" is mentioned.
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Bes please keep us updated to things that worked.
What they tried to relieve symptoms and stop it.
Vitamin C, Zinc, coconut oil, antivirals?
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Egypt says they will develop their own vaccine for 2011. Can't find what they are using now.
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Maryland having problems with vaccine/vaccinees.
Another was that the only vaccine on offer was
AstraZeneca unit MedImmune's nasal spray, which
is unsuitable for children with underlying
conditions such as asthma. Injectable vaccine is
due to become available next week. Continued...http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE59852M20091009
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This is insane. We have 5 different vaccines being given in the US and no one is telling the public these things. How easy is it to screw up?
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