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Any frequencies to address biofilm?
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- Rosner's is all about lyme. First. Really necessary.
Then, if you can afford: Sylver's is all about rife in general and other good general stuff. Excellent yet not specific to lyme. -
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RZR, I don't know of any frequencies to address biolim specifically....
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Take serrapeptase for biofilm.
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I believe someone's Dr said to use parasite frequencies for biofilm. I am also going to try the frequencies for hypercoagulation ("sticky blood'). Serrapeptase sounds good too but I've seen high prices for it, and it's taken as much as 20-30 mg (40,000- 60,000iu) at 3X a day.
I saw my Lyme Doctor yesterday. We talked at length abt rifing for Lyme and all its other goodies. I brought Bryan Rosner's book and the larger spiral that comes with the GB4000. He's never seen them or Ninah Sylver's book on rife frequencies. My Dr says that he recommends rifing to many of his Lyme patients, but given my experiences and the books I brought in he's going to recommend rifing to many more Lymers.
You should have seen he and the bio electro medicine dr buzzing around the books (& I) reading bits, looking at the pictures, copying the covers so he can order them later. Actually the books are in the electro medicine dept of my LLMD's office so he missed seeing them,when they first came in to the office.
Score one for our Lymed brethren!!!
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I received my GB4000 last Tuesday w/o 2 of the 3 power cords! so I rifed w/o the sr4 amplifier Wednesday & Thursday.I rifed for several things. after rifing for just 2 nights: my Friday was AWESOME. I woke, sat up in bed, and said, "Wow." My pain had retreated maybe to a 3 out of 10, less fatigue and much clearer brain. The Lyme was back the next day, and it's taken 5 days (3 of these rifing)to get to a Good day today (Thursday).
Rifing- /herxing- wise I seem to be tolerating unusually well. My herxing consists mostly of sleeping and a bit of virusy fluishness. I believe my reaction is so mild because I've been on the Samento Protocol for 1 1/2 yrs and taken Flagyl for the cyst form of Lyme. I've discontinued these so now the Lyme can naively come out to meet the Rife! Also I'm rifing for detox, cleanse, restore & stimulate (which I'll do again tonight).
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"I believe someone's Dr said to use parasite frequencies for biofilm." That would be me.... It was Protozoa frequencies in particular, because that's what the Fry bug is, but it has not been fully identified beyond being a protozoan. So for now all we can do is use general protozoa frequencies. It's believed that these protozoa hold the biofilm communities together. So if you kill them, it will break up the biofilms.
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Keep on rifing for those protozoans and parasite !!
Wow I have come around and over the major hump and I believe went the deepest I ever have ever in treating and therefore I finally feeling that I am clearing them out deep And winning !! Good bye buggers!! It's like my detox thread . Sometimes for a result u do have to be bery precise and deep and work hard and kill and cleanse in depth and clear
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BCX fellow users !!
I am needing access to BCX frequency Manual , I realized my recently got packed Away in storage . I swore I saw a place owners Could access it online ?? Anyone know ? Or does the new ones come on CD digitally Someone. Could share with me. ,, I will be unpacking in a few months but I can't Find it right now so taking a chance someine can help. Me pm me or leave post Appreciate it
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Wanted to let everyone know that I started Malarone and Zithromax for Babesia last week. After my last rife session I got really, REALLY sick. Started ruining a high fever, brain swelling, night sweats, etc.
At first I thought it was a herx from my rife treatment but it got worse day by day. By day five I was ready to meet Jesus. No joke.
Anyways, I called my Lyme Dr. And he put me on Malarone immediately. By my second dose my fever broke. A week into the meds and I feel like a new person. ALL of my symptoms are gone.
I'm discontinuing rife for the time be, and will focus on meds. I'll start back Rifing in a couple of months...
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Do y'all think running 72 and 120 for parasites had an impact on my Babesia infection? It supposedly hits the fry bug...wondering if I killed off a massive amount of "something" which allowed the babs to come out full force?
This getting SO sick with babs came right after my last rife session....very strange.
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It would be my guess and it's ONLY a guess that running 72 and 120 hz would not cause the babes to become more active rather could it be that you over rifed and it just caused such a herx that your babe symptoms surfaced due to the extra inflammation?
I have noticed in the past that if I pushed my rifing times to long that it seemed to activate symptoms of ALL my infections at once.
I think you'll get it figured out in time what is really going on. I know personally I have found many answers to my questions sometimes even months later.. Hoping and praying for a revelation for your situation!! Hang in there you'll get it figured out and back on track! Juli
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Juli, you said, "I have noticed in the past that if I pushed my rifing times to long that it seemed to activate symptoms of ALL my infections at once. "
Do you know how this works and why it is? Why wouldn't rifing deal with the infections this revealed? And why would someone need to take antibiotics for something the rife caused? I'm just trying to understand a little better. If you don't have the answers, I certainly understand...
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It has been my personal experience in the past with rifing that when I would rife for to long for a particular pathogen it would activate Symptoms from other pathogens I have. However, I'm not so sure it activated the actual pathogen. I believe in my case it was due to inflammation throughout my body from the herx making me more sensitive overall. Do I know this for sure? NO! This is only my theory and I am only guessing but I too thought I was going to die at times and that the rifing was failing me and believe me I thought this more times then I can count.
Just yesterday I rifed 5 minutes for H-pylori and I herxed throughout my entire body right down to my feet which is a Bart symptom for me. I don't know for sure but that seems strange to me as H-plyori is a pathogen that is in the gut. I wish I did have an answer for you and lymielauren not to mention myself but I can only share what has been my own experience.
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So....Does anyone ever eventually get rid of lyme & co with rifing or is this a lifetime commitment?
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Well, I'm symptom free my life has been totally restored. I've read the more infections one has the more complicated in achieving a cure and that is understandable.
I have 7 infections 8 if you count H-pylori. I have not treated any with abx's except for Lyme in which I relapsed after stopping the Doxy 7 weeks later. That is when I turned fully to rifing alone. I'm not going to complain if I have to do a maintenance rifing to keep healthy but I am believing for a full cure with the incredible results I have gotten thus far. Time will tell but I know I have many years to go rifing with all the infections I have. It is possible I have achieved a cure or remission already but I'm not about to stop to find out. I cannot bare the thought of chancing myself to get as sick as I once was. My quality of life was ZERO and honestly I would rather die then to ever be that sick again.
Yes, cures have been achieved or maybe it is just remissions that are believed to be cures I do not know.. When it comes to Lyme and it's Co infections I'm not so sure that any avenue of treatment can say 100% cure with certainty?
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Juli, very happy for you that you are symptom free! I fell like I'm turning the corner on bart which has always been my biggest problem. Better not talk about it as I don't want to jinx myself.
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I think Bart was my biggest culprit also! Glad to hear your doing so well!
I've learned it's never a direct line to healing as Dan once told me. I have had my ups and downs along the way and just when I thought I was completely over the hump I'd hit a bump for know apparent reason. I've learned not to get discouraged but to just keep going and it has always worked it's way out for me!
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- Juli,
Congratulations! Your post starts page 50 of this thread.
I've not yet really started with rife but am trying to read all I can first. Glad to see this is on-going dialogue. -
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Juli...You give us all hope!
I know you have 2 machines, but how much time per day do you spend rifing?
Do you rife for all pathogens daily? If not, will you please explain how often you rife for each, if you use the same frequencies each time, etc?
Anyone know where I can find a used GB-4000?
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I was going thru my really old notes last week and noticed I posted 655 strong reaction. 654 is a bart frequency and not sure how I stumbled upon 655.
Never the less, I wrote this down before I started working harmonics. So I started with 655 then started multiplying and wow my bart can't stand this frequency. I'm making some headway.
Just throwing this number for those still fishing for new frequencies. Feel free to PM me or post if 655 does anything for you.
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I am starting out Monday with my new EMEM5A machine and Bryan Rosners book. The makers of the machine recommend rifing once a week for the first two weeks.
After the first two weeks, they say to rife every two weeks. Does that sound right?
I know you need to start out slowly. I see some here rifing more frequently but have no idea how you know it is okay to do that.
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Might want to keep an eye on E bay I bought a back up GB 4000 from there!
I do not rife all pathogen everyday because it would be just to much even with both machines. I have a lot of infections I'm dealing with!!!
I have always used the same freqs and have since the beginning!!! I personally have found I only need one or two freqs to treat a pathogen.
If I reacted to the common/popular freqs such as 832 for Bart then that is what I have used! With some pathogens others here have not seemed to have found the most common/poplar freq so I had to test them myself to see which ones gave me a good hit then just stuck with them.
As many of you know I always use the highest harmonic of a freq that I can run as Dr. Rife did also. I have read in using higher harmonic's it is believed to take less time to kill pathogens.
I have worked up over time.. right now I am going in for the KILL with Bart and I am running that dialy for 30 minutes. I personally don't believe it reproduces as quickly as some may think because I was getting better even when I could only tolerate running it for 5 minutes twice a week.
This is my schedule as of now.. but I'll be running Lyme daily once I get to 20 mins each which will be soon. Sunday-
Lyme Freqs 832, 432, 2016 16 Mins each. Mycoplasama Fermentans 690 hz 20 Mins EBV 880 hz 20 Mins Bart Henslae 832 hz 30 Mins. Bart Quintana 357 hz 30 Mins. 10000 hz for inflammation 8 mins AP #203 for Detox 2 mins AP #471 Lymph support 2 mins
Monday-
Bart Quintana 30 Mins. Bart Henslae 30 mins. Rife/Peters/Protocol sweep 75 Mins (using this protocol to hit CPN, Erlichia, Lyme, Candida, Parasites and much more) 10000 hz for inflammation 8 mins AP #203 for Detox 2 mins AP #471 Lymph support 2 mins
Tuesday-
Lyme Freqs 832, 432, 2016 hz 16 Mins each. Mycoplasama Fermentans 690 hz 20 Mins EBV 880 hz 20 Mins Bart Henslae 832 hz 30 Mins. Bart Quintana 357 hz 30 Mins. 10000 hz for inflammation 8 mins AP #203 for Detox 2 mins AP #471 Lymph support 2 mins
Wednesday-
Bart Quintana 30 Mins. Bart Henslae 30 mins. Rife/Peters/Protocol sweep 75 Mins (using this protocol to hit CPN, Erlichia, Lyme, Candida, Parasites and much more) 10000 hz for inflammation 8 mins AP #203 for Detox 2 mins AP #471 Lymph support 2 mins
Thurday-
Bart Quintana 30 Mins. Bart Henslae 30 mins. 10000 hz for inflammation 8 mins AP #203 for Detox 2 mins AP #471 Lymph support 2 mins
Friday-
Lyme Freqs 832, 432, 2016 16 Mins each. Mycoplasama Fermentans 690 hz 20 Mins EBV 880 hz 20 Mins Bart Henslae 832 hz 30 Mins. Bart Quintana 357 hz 30 Mins. 10000 hz for inflammation 8 mins AP #203 for Detox 2 mins AP #471 Lymph support 2 mins
Saturday-
Bart Quintana 30 Mins. Bart Henslae 30 mins. Rife/Peters/Protocol sweep 75 Mins (using this protocol to hit CPN, Erlichia, Lyme, Candida, Parasites and much more) 10000 hz for inflammation 8 mins AP #203 for Detox 2 mins AP #471 Lymph support 2 mins
For anyone interested I have taken Tumeric, Ginger, Krill oil from the beginning good for inflammation and recently learned to help prevent biofilms. Hope this helps!
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faithful---
A lot depends on your case, like how long were you on antibiotics? How long were you infected before treatment? How did you do on abx? Is your bacterial load heavy or light?
How well does your body detox? Is your immune system weak, inflamed or auto? Have you suffered a lot or not?
If you've already done a lot of treatment and have knocked down a lot of pathogens, you can rife oftener. You should start slow and minimal to see how you react. If you don't react, treat harder.
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Thanks for taking the time to post what worked for you rifing wise and times. I stayed away from the thread for awhile but there are some great little nuggets of information in here. I hope you still continue to post and guide and cheer others on in their recovery.
I have learned so much off lymenet that has recently helped me turn a corner. Everything from Tumeric which helped take the bart symptoms out of my eyes to important detox things like Chorella,IFR sauna,bentonite clay.Interfase Plus plus Natto was helpful also. Not to forget, anti parasitic herbs like Wormwood/Walnut complex rotated with Parastroy. Along with bart abx and finding the right rife frequencies. Should also bring up eating correctly.
There is so much to learn from this thread and searching the history of this site.
Once again thanks to all of you that have contributed to this thread and continue to do so.
Yes, I also do the Wormwood and recommend it highly for anyone having bloating and gas. I began using Wormwood extract from Swansonvitamins.com twice daily and within one day all my Gas and Bloating was completely gone. This was a HUGE problem for me when I started rifing Bart full force.
I wanted to mention also for those of you that might be having Bladder issue's caused from Bart I found that this product really does help with the pressure and urgency.
I had first tried a product called Flotrol which was really $$$ but this works just as well if not better. The down side to these products is that they do contain Soy but if you felt as bad as I did then you may decide to get relief anyway you can.
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Juli,
Thank you so much for posting in such detail.
Like most here, I am so sick I can't even think straight. Your post is a great help!
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You have obviously worked up to the times you are rifing now.
I'm just starting and I'm not sure how to proceed.
I'm not sure when to start adding frequencies and how much time to use them.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
It would make it so much easier to have step by step instructions.
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Everyone is different and some can tolerate longer rifing times in the beginning it can depend on your bacteria load. I suggest you go SLOW until you know the pace you'll need.
I strongly suggest always test any and ALL frequencies(even auto programs) for 1-2 mins even if you think they are not related to lyme or any Co infections because many freq can have what I call a cross over effect in some way.
I began with 612 hz used for Lyme at 1 min and I herxed for 6 days. (be careful some reactions can be delayed by 24-48 hours) Once I felt the herx calm to the point where I felt I could handle another treatment then I would test another freq in the same way I think my second freq was 2016 hz for Lyme these are two of the best in my opinion that you can use I got a lot of improvement using just these two but I did add in 432 Hz because I reacted so strongly to it. Always drink lots of WATER for detoxing!
It is good to use your "Gate" feature if you have it. It is believed it will help your body from becoming resistance to the freqs being used over a long period of time. The only time I don't use Gate is if I'm using a supportive freq such as 10,000 used for inflammation but I don't think it's any big deal if it is on.
Bart was the second pathogen I began treating using 832 Hz which I also got excellent results in using. Bart Quintana 357 Hz might want to test also.
If you go back a few pages you'll find a list of freqs I posted for a lot of pathogens that is a keeper!
Hope this helps! Juli
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Did you use just the lyme frequencies for awhile then add the bart or did you do them together.
I started with 432, 800, 4328 and 10000 for 2 mins (I use the 10000 everyday for 2 minutes) every 2 weeks. I herxed mildly for a few days after the first treatment.
If I'm not herxing on a certain frequency to I drop it for a different frequency or keep it in the protocol?
This is all so new and nothing is really explicit on how to proceed.
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What I did is once I reacted to a freq I used it on a weekly schedule. Sometimes I'd have to wait to test for new pathogens "weeks" before I could work in a new freq depending on my reactions. You don't want your herx's running together otherwise you really won't know what you are reacting to! Documentation is so important!!!
Generally, if you don't react to a freq then you don't need to use it however, I do think it's very important to keep in mind that if you already have your bacteria load down from other treatments then this could be a good reason why you may not be getting a reaction. (might want to test every few months just to make sure)
I test my freqs like this.. The first time I run 1 min, the second time 2 mins and if I get no reaction I have tested 5 mins then maybe even up to 8 mins. If I don't react then I don't use it!
I personally only use 1-2 freqs to treat a pathogen but for Lyme I do use 3. This has worked very well for me and maybe some won't agree but I know others that have had good success in doing it this way as well. You'll learn to get a feel for it in time I know it can be overwhelming at first but you'll get it!
Running higher Harmonic's of a freq is thought to kill pathogens quicker and be overall more effective. I personally believe this is true and I do use them but I did not start out using them because it can make for an extra kick in your herx's and for me I was sick enough running the base freqs at minimal times.
Sweeps are good also to ensure hits if your machine can run them especially the Rife/Peters/Protocol sweep it hits just about everything and then some. Again, I didn't start out using sweeps I added a few sweeps to my regiment later down the road as I learned more and could handle the extra herxing. I know running this Rife/Peters/Protocol is keeping me healthy in general and it has killed off my life time of yeast issues I once had. I run this 3 times a week for 75 minutes and that is when I really began seeing the benefits. No more Flu's, Cold's, Pneumonia, Sinus issues or Yeast. It did cause all these issues to crop up though when I first began running it but I do have CPN and Myco Pneumonia and I know it was hitting it pretty hard in the beginning.
It could be running this protocol on it's own could be all one needs to use but I'm not about to blaze that trail. I'm batting 100 so I'll just keep doing what I'm doing
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I've only started rifing three weeks ago so I have a long way to go.
Thank you for the info. I really appreciate it. I need a step by step way to proceed and your info will be very beneficial. Eventually I will get more daring and do more.
I have the EMEM5D machine so I am limited as to what I can do.
Eventually I plan to get something stronger but thought this would be a good start.
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Juli I have heard you and others refer to the Rife/Peters/Protocol on a number of occasions, but I don't know what that means. Could you point me to a reference for that or explain? I saw once that it relied upon a particular carrier frequency. My GB-4000 is limited to its 3.3 carrier frequency, which is apparently not the same?
I haven't encountered any protocols which required a certain carrier frequency. I thought that the pathogen frequencies we use are carried on the carrier frequency, regardless of which one it is. But that the same pathogen frequencies are to be used, regardless of the carrier frequency of the machine. I know you can set your CF on the MOPA, but not on the basic GB-4000.
Have I got it all confused here? Please inform us, if possible...:-)
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I think you'll find your GB 4000 is set with a 3.1 carrier Freq and not a 3.3.
Rife/Peters/Protocol was put together by James Peters and found that running a 3.3 CF with this particular sweep gave him longer with lasting relief. I do recall reading that he was staying healthier in general as I am also.
It is possible though that running this sweep with the 3.1 CF may be just as effective if not more so and here is why... I contacted Jeff Garff the maker and friend of James and he told me to use the 3.1 CF with the sweep even though I could run the 3.3 CF. I then contacted James and he told me to do what Jeff tells me to do! So, there you have it.!?
The sweep is ran for 1-2 hours. You run a sweep 100-200 Hz each side of 6600. 6600 Hz I believe is one of Dr. Rife's original freqs used for syphilis and it is believed this is what is hitting the lyme.
If memory serves me correctly James runs it the full 200 hz above and below 6600 hz. Dan I believe runs it about 100 Hz above or below. Maybe Dan can jump in and comment I believe he seen very good results from running this sweep.
I run it a bit differently I sweep from 6470 Hz- 6740 Hz. Here is what I know it is hitting with my sweep (below) but if you expand the sweep like James you'll hit even more I'm sure. Here's just a small sample of how the higher harmonic's of a frequency is being hit by running these sweeps.
You can always contact Jeff and ask him for yourself about the CF concerning this sweep.
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I just received this message from Jeff Garff the maker of the GB 4000 & MOPA.
Hello Juli,
We are having a web training seminar for those with GB4000s and MOPAs tomorrow from 6 PM to 8PM Mountain time. Just click on the link below to sign up. If you know of anyone else that would like to sign up pass on this link.
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faithful777 LymeNet Contributor Member # 22872
I am still on antibiotics. Can't get off right now but going to rife while on them. I do use Flagyl to flush out the cysts.
People who made my machine say they have people still on abx using rife. Posts: 617 | From Virginia | Registered: Oct 2009 -------------------------------- pamoisondelune Frequent Contributor Member # 11846 Hi, Did you start rifing?
My personal choice was never to take Flagyl because it causes cancer in rats.
Excuse me, i haven't researched your 600 posts. Why can't you get off abx--- that's what i should research.
The method for rifing is --- experiment and document. We are all experimenters. If you start with 1 min on 612, write it down. Keep a journal. Write down your times, doses, and reactions. Was it too much or too little?
Too much is defined as a herx that is so awful you think you can't stand it. Too little is not much reaction. Just right is a herx that is unpleasant but you can live through it.
Good luck, PollyPolygonum
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Hmmmm... here's another. These black ones can be updated so long as it has a B or C in the right bottom of the screen when turned on. Might want to double check that with Jeff if your interested.
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Juli, You got my attention with the sweep set posted above that hits so much stuff. You mentioned you did that sweep for 75 minutes. Considering I don't have the MOPA how many minutes would you suggest starting out with? I will blame it on my self it I get a big herx not you:)
Also wanted to ask if you turn on gate will you need to turn it on every time you start machine?
Thanks again for passing along so much.
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Assuming you have the GB 4000... You will need to turn on the gate with sweeps every time. I don't know how new your machine is but the newer ones will hold the gate if you pre set them to do so with a particular auto program but not when running sweeps.
I started out running this protocol for 10 mins the first time I ran it using the MOPA. I didn't feel much but at 16 mins I began feeling it. I increased by 1 minute each time I ran this sweep 3 times a week so it took time for me to reach the 75-76 mins.
I seem to be pretty sensitive so you may be able to tolerate more then I did at first. Might want to give 10 mins a try and then increase by 5 mins until you find your starting zone!
Jeff, told me long ago I will get better quicker if I run this sweep. I know it has been very beneficial in ways I never expected. I do use this sweep to treat at least 4 other pathogens I have never rifed individually for and when I do "test" the individual freq for that particular pathogen I don't react as quickly or as strongly as I did when I first tested.
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My doctor says about Rife "it can be your best friend." But she's just told me that my system is so overloaded that I should use no killing frequencies at all till my toxic load comes down and my liver and GI are better able to handle it.
She said I should use only frequencies that will, as she put it, "open channels." Does anyone here use particular frequencies to "open channels." If so, what are those frequencies?
I know I can research this for myself--I just want to hear from anyone who has experience with this. Thanks so much.
Peggy
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Thanks as always, just tried it for a 10 minute sweep and will bump up tomorrow. Since I don't have the mopa, I should be able to work up faster.
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I began rifing during the night about 4 nights ago I was hesitate to do so just in case I might make a mistake or the thought of the machine malfunctioning.
This morning 5 am I accidently ran two of my Lyme freqs for almost double the time I use. ( about 1/2 hour longer) I react to even a 1 minute increase so I'm gong to be in Big trouble here.
I'm going to try taking Activated Charcoal I've heard it can really help. My other hope is that my herx won't last for long!
I don't think I'll be programming my machine at 5 am any more either.
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Juli, Thanks for the advice. I've been wondering about Activated Charcoal. Just ordered some to try, too.
May your herx be short and you feel even better than before you treated.
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Can anyone recommend dosage amount for activated charcoal that works for you?
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Anyone know if EMEM rife machine is allowed to be sold on eBay?
I checked completed listings and none showed up.
This machine works for me, but I want something easier to travel with.
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Update~ I used the Activated Charcoal two capsules 3 times a day ( you can take more) and drank lots of water and bathed in 2 cups of Epsom salt.
I barely herxed!!! It worked MIRCALES for me I should have been contorted with pain after the rifing error I had made. Charcoal gets a A+++++ in my book!! Wish I had known about it way back when. This is what I used http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SW1355/ItemDetail
RZR,
You can list on E bay but don't make any claims of healing about your machine or mention Rife Otherwise, I have seen them knock the auctions down. People who are looking will know what it is! good luck!
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Thanks, Juli.
DT (man that made machine) has a 90-day return policy, but I don't feel like I should return it since it works well.
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