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I know everyone is different in their response, but in the past couple months I have noticed that 800 (sweep of +/- 5; and a pulse) has been helping me, particularly with pain, and especially with lower back pain.
It's interesting because that is one of the main numbers for tuberculosis which is another gram-negative rod-shaped bacillus bacteria.
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If you look at the CAFL cross reference below, you can see the range you are using covers a lot of conditions.
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Does anyone have an BCX Ultra? If so, I'm wondering what my intensity level should be set at?
It came set at 40, but my doctor said maybe I need to increase intensity rather than how often I use it if I want to step up treatment a bit.
I only rife once every other week for lyme and once every other week for bart. and for a bunch of support both weeks.
Any recommendations on intensity level?
Many thanks, Susan
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I prefer running at full power and adjusting the length of the frequency treatment. That way you have eliminated an unneeded variable from your treatment.
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I am very new to Rife. I have a question regarding recognizing of coinfections and other related illnesses by your reaction to Rife treatment.
I am being treated by a LLND, who offers Rife tx. in her office. Due to the distance, I am only able to get about 1 treatment per week. For several weeks, I was getting just Lyme frequencies and those for sinus/ears.
I would seem to feel calmer right after the treatment, but noticed some very old symptoms returning such as sore knee, bug crawling sensations, mild bone pain... but after a day or two I noticed I would have more 'good days' per week (from 1 to 2 or 3). Good days for me mean decrease in head pressure and tinnitus.
To me, this seemed like an indication that the Rife treatment was helping me in some way. However, almost 2 weeks ago, she threw in babesia and parasite frequencies. I noticed that I had some very bad days the following week - worse than usual.
But, I have also been under a tremendous amount of stress with family matters. I also had one IV heavy metal chelation tx. a few days before that Rife treatment.
I eventually had 1 good day following that Rife treatment. Do you think this might be an indication that I have more work to do with babesia and parasites?
I am trying to read as much as I can about Rife in order to make the best decision as to whether I should buy a machine for myself. It seems, from what I have been reading, that if you have a reaction like I did to a particular frequency, that means that you are probably fighting this organism(frequency that caused worse reaction) more than those that don't give you as much of a reaction?
If you keep using these frequencies, will you notice less of a reaction over time, indicating that Rife tx. is killing that organism? How long does this usually take?
My LLND says that what she is looking for as an indication that Rife is helping me is that if I do have a worse day or two after Rife, that I have an INCREASE in quality or quantity of good days following that initial reaction than I typically would have had. Does this make sense to you?
I have all of Bryan Rosner's books and am doing my best to read through to gather more info... But I would like to hear others' reactions to treatment and how they knew or did not know that Rife was helping... Thank you!
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A couple of weeks ago I was trying to find out why I herxed so bad. I ruled out a couple of things - like a skin tag removed on my back.( doesn't sound like it would but it was a big one and hurt after it was removed. I went back to dr. And she said it wasn't infected)
Or was it because I was using my iPad while I rifed. Could have been. No one replied to that.
But looking back at my records I really think it was from taking wobenzyme. It's suppose to be a cyst buster. I was herxing for five days. You are suppose to rife If you feel anything. I didn't until towards the last. But then I got better.
That was a horrible time and it made me feel like I was right back into the beginning of my lyme treatment.
Had any one else had effects from or tried this supplement?
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A couple of weeks ago I was trying to find out why I herxed so bad. I ruled out a couple of things - like a skin tag removed on my back.( doesn't sound like it would but it was a big one and hurt after it was removed. I went back to dr. And she said it wasn't infected)
Or was it because I was using my iPad while I rifed. Could have been. No one replied to that.
But looking back at my records I really think it was from taking wobenzyme. It's suppose to be a cyst buster. I was herxing for five days. You are suppose to rife If you feel anything. I didn't until towards the last. But then I got better.
That was a horrible time and it made me feel like I was right back into the beginning of my lyme treatment.
Had any one else had effects from or tried this supplement?
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From what I have seen, any cyst buster is going to cause a reaction when Lyme is present.
If a frequency hits a Lyme related coinfection, it almost always will make you feel worse for a while. Killing Babesia will make you feel worse for a few weeks at least. It depends how often you treat it. The good news is it can be eliminated over time.
I don't have a lot of experience treating other parasites, so I am not sure what response a person gets treating for them, or how difficult they are to eliminate.
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Ahhhhh. I found you. I may be needing some help. Just got my machine. I know very little. I am told go slow
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This thread will be bedtime reading for me tonight butcan you tell me...there are so many machines. Are the frequencies the same on each machine?
Like on all machines 0.65 is the first lyme one?
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All Rife machines can use the same frequencies.
Two of the best Lyme frequencies I use are 2016 Hz and 840.6 Hz.
Dan
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Dan, what about the two auto channels that are already programmed into the GB4000? (466 and 467) Have you found these helpful?
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I used them briefly years ago when I first got the machine. I am sure they work, or at least many of the frequencies work.
Part of my goal was to simplify treatment. Many frequencies might kill Lyme but you don't necessarily need many to do it. I use 2016 for active Lyme, and 840.6 for cyst form.
That has worked well for my wife. I used to also run 612 Hz but I am not sure that is needed if you use 2016.
Dan
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Dan the two you use...do they help with lyme or coinfections or what lyme does to your body after a long time?
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I went thru the list last night and found over 100 things i have...many dx with testing etc
So...do i start with what bothers me the most? Or the most serious...like cancer or precancer conditions
Or the one that seems to cause the others. Like lyme
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My wife had Lyme, Bart, & Babesia. She has a remnant of Lyme left. Not enough to produce much for symptoms but it is there.
She does not suffer any lingering effects, but I started treating her soon after infection.
Damaged joints are not going to heal 100% but reducing the Lyme will prevent more damage
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Those two frequencies are just for Lyme.
For Bart I use 832 Hz.
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0k-im confused. i just found brians book and will read it cover to cover. but i scanned hundreds maybe thousands of frequencies in the book that came with my machine and i dont see any over 999
did i buy wrong machine? this is what i bought-recommended byt person with lyme who says it helped her a lot:
if i should not have posted this for some reason tell me and i will delete...i dont want to confuse others...just trying to figure things out
thanks
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springshowers ty so much for may 2 2014 posts above...very helpful to newbie of rife
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- Many rife frequencies (for various things) listed here over 999. For lyme / TBD frequencies, though I would trust the ones listed in our thread here - or with LL authors. The ones here are basic, though.
But posting this mainly as you said you saw none over 999 and rife range certainly go higher than that - but higher is not always better.
There are many posts in this full thread - and a couple full chart sets specific for lyme / TBD so do scroll back over the pages. But if you try to collect all the number first, you may never get started (like myself). Read Rosner. Get some good starting points and then study more in those 12 days off.
CAFL - The Consolidated Annotated Frequency List -
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- Ever rife session should end with 10,000 to calm herx / inflammation.
And 10K can be used daily, whereas lyme rife frequencies should be no more frequent than every 12 days. To do more often can risk kidney damage.
Once someone is well into advanced treatment and closer to remission, time may be adjusted but this is very important to keep in mind in the early days / months with rife.
Other TBD can be more frequent. See Rosner's book for detail. -
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Hello.
I don't know a lot about your machine but some people have not been very happy with it.
A frequency is a frequency and no matter what machine you use, the frequencies are the,same. 2016 should work with your machine if it can run it. It is my understanding that the Rife Digital only runs higher frequencies so you may have to use a,higher harmonic of 2016 Hz.
I believe the frequencies on your machine are listed in kilo hertz. That is why they look funky.
I hope it works for you.
Dan
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Keebler, just curious. Where did you learn that using the lyme frequencies more often than every 12 days can cause kidney problems? My LLND had me coming in weekly for this and told me I could do up to twice a week if I am able to tolerate.
I have been running detox and 10,000 each session. Perhaps this makes it okay to do the lyme frequencies more often? I seem to be doing okay.
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I just reread your post, Keebler. I have Rosner's books and am going to try to reread the part where he advises about this. Guess I missed it.
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I can still return my machine. Do you think i should? What machine do you like the best. How much is it. Do you have a link
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I like the GB-4000. It has,proven itself over the years as a top notch machine. You can buy them used and are often offered on the Rife Forum.
I don't know current prices but they are not cheap. Just Google it for current new prices.
I don't know enough about your machine to know whether you should keep it or not. You could ask on the Rife Forum. There is at least one person there that has one.
Dan
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Whrre is rife forum? Sorry. Ty for time
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Ok. Found gb 4000. No way can i afford tht now. Will have to muddle thru with what i have i guess. Ty
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Is brians book real old? It says you can buy a rife machine for about a hundrrd dollars? How can that be...cheapest i saw was 500.
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lpkayak - I have been using an EMEM5 for the past six months or so with great results. In fact I believe it has been instrumental in making solid movement forward in how I feel. Cost was $527 - if you send me a PM I can give you his contact info.
I did recently buy a GB4000 with MOPA as I am fully on board with Rife and wanted to have more power and variability in the routines I was running. That said, I think the EMEM5 is perfect for long term use and I have a neighbor who has used it for several years and considers herself symptom free
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Whoops - hit return before I finished typing
For lyme I use 2016 and 612 which hit me hard at first, but are more tolerable now - I added the 860.5 that Dan mentioned above a few months ago and it also hit hard (herxes) but again more tolerable now - those three frequencies are my core Lyme treatment.
Also not sure I am on board with Rosner's recommendation of only rifing every two weeks (except when starting out) - I quickly reached a plateau rifing every two weeks in about a month or so after starting, and IMHO have seen much better results in how I am feeling with having moved to rifing once a week. I do think that is going to vary for each person though.
I am now in the process of trying to scale up to treat 2-3 times a week to see if that makes any improvements or if I feel worse and need to back off. I am definitely paying attention to detoxing and using anti-inflamatories (tumeric, ginger, etc)
All that said, in the beginning I definitely could only rife once every two weeks (at only 1-2 min per frequency) because it took many days to recover from the herx and I wanted a 'good' week before treating again.
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Ty Im not very techy The machine i have is rifedigital.com It was recommended by someone who said it was really easy to prigram and it goes deep Its a little more than 500. But alot can be programmed in and then just buttons pushed
Also two can use at once
I have many problems besides lyme...cancer, arthritis, other stuff
Its hard to learn frim you guys cuz the machines are different...but i hope once i am set up it will be easier in the long run
Im so ignoernt of this stuff and new learning is so hard it is goingto take hands on help frim my friend to get me going i think
Thanks a lot for reply
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Ok im figuring things out but i can see my machine is dufferent. I dont know if it is better or worse than the ones you use. I dont understand the whole ETD thing from previous learning and i am pretty disabled in many ways that affect using the machine.
First of all many systems are messed up such as vision, brain-esp. With new learning, i am emf sensitive and disabled by arthritis almost every joint, dealing with cancer and a number of pre cancerous conditions, and i am sure there are many parasites as well as bacteria and viruses r err latef to tbd
So given all this its probably good i have this machine cuz its easier for me to run both physically and cognitively. The bad partis there is not that much support. But i do have one person and can call the company i guess
Last night i ran ten fq for arm injury. I have had a bad arm for almost two yrs now that appears to be rotator cuff injurybut gets worse with PT. Better with rest but never all better. For two yrs it is so bad i have trouble getting dressed
It has been pretty good recently so i chose to start with it to get used to machine. I ran two min of each of ten fq
I was told herx comes within three days so my plan was to up time gradually to ten min ea fq every three days
I began to herx hours after rife session. It got worse all night. This morning i am really babying arm and pain is calming down but i do notice i am getting emf sx using phone
That hasnt happened in months
So something is going on. I did not expect a herx like this and need to prepare for it
I cant fugure out how to do the rife support thread...but if anyone is in contact with someone with rife digital please have them contact me here or thru lymetoo who has my contact info
Thank you for your help getting started
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So I hope to get some ideas about how to proceed with treating Bartonella.
When I started with 832 it was obvious that it was hitting the Bart and I quickly got better and the herxes were obvious and knocked me to the ground.
I started with 20 seconds every other day. When I skipped up to 40 it was WAY too much and couldn't get back to rifing for about 10 days. Anyway I worked my way up to 2 1/2 minutes and then every time I went up on time nothing happened. This happened three or four times so I figured that number was no longer good, even though I thought that was odd that it started out so effective.
So I started using 786. I started back at 20 seconds and am over a minute and nothing is happening.
Should I go back to 832 and go to everyday? Should I keep with 786? Should I try a new number?
I am getting really sick again. Any suggestions?
Thanks, Cyndi
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Cyndi, sorry you are having such a rough time. That is one of the things I find the scariest about using Rife. We are each so unique and respond so differently to the various frequencies and times.
I also try to do lyme, parasites, jaw, sinus and dental frequencies (always followed by some type of detox) so often don't know which one it was I used that helped me the most. Instead of a typical herx, I often have increased sensations in my jaw and head, making me realize that I am hitting something there. I may or may not experience flu like symptoms indicating the true herx.
I don't know how to set the GB4000 to less than a minute duration. How do you convert to seconds?
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Dbpei
Hi...can you tell me what your goals/plan is by rifing dental?
Im new to rife and have the rife digital. It has a manuel mode
Im starting really slowly and trying to separate issues while i figure out wherr infection is worsr
It will be slow. But i figure rife will be a long haul for me
I still only know one person with the same machine as me. She loves it...but also has to go slow cuz herxes a lot
I have increasing dental pain after work done last winter so i am.wondering how dental is related to lyme and helped by rife. Thx
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anyone had luck with rife for lyme meningitis? What would be the best one to use for this?
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quote:Originally posted by Sam from CA: So I hope to get some ideas about how to proceed with treating Bartonella.
When I started with 832 it was obvious that it was hitting the Bart and I quickly got better and the herxes were obvious and knocked me to the ground.
I started with 20 seconds every other day. When I skipped up to 40 it was WAY too much and couldn't get back to rifing for about 10 days. Anyway I worked my way up to 2 1/2 minutes and then every time I went up on time nothing happened. This happened three or four times so I figured that number was no longer good, even though I thought that was odd that it started out so effective.
So I started using 786. I started back at 20 seconds and am over a minute and nothing is happening. Should I go back to 832 and go to everyday? Should I keep with 786? Should I try a new number?
I am getting really sick again. Any suggestions?
Thanks, Cyndi
Hi Cyndi - what is the max time you are at now? I have worked my times up to three minutes currently for each frequency and will go to four shortly as three is losing effectiveness. I think many people look to get up to 15-20 minutes every day for Bart - are you there yet? I think if you were up to that time with no effect that maybe you have killed off the strain that was susceptible to that frequency.
I added in 357 for bart and that seems to have an impact as well so I would try that frequency.
Other frequencies I see as recommended for Bart is 800, 831, 832, 833, 834, 842, 864
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I only got up to about 3 1/2 minutes for 832, which was really effective at first. At about 2 1/2 minutes, I kept going up 20 seconds wih no herx so another member on a different board said if you've gone up 3 times on a number and nothing is making you herx, then go to another number.
I tried 786 several times up to one minute and nothing happened.
Now I'm not sure what to do. I guess I should try a new number.
My question is: if 832 was such a good number to start, is it possible that at only 2 1/2 minutes, I should go to every day instead of every other day in order to make it effective?
Cyndi
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I would try sweep 832. About 827 to 837. I would run it 15 minutes the first time. Work up to an hour.
I agree that a 20 minute run should be the goal for a single frequency.
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So no one knows anything about usung rife for dental problems?
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Unfortunately I can't do a "sweep" because I have a Doug coil. Maybe I could run a different number every night to see if I gt a herx.
Cyndi
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lpkyak, I'm sorry I have not been on lymenet to answer your question. My mom has been very ill, hospitalized with CHF and now gone blind by a stroke. Horrible stuff.
I use a lot of dental frequencies because I believe that the infection is in my jaw, sinuses and along the 8th cranial nerve. There are some auto channels for dental foci and jaw infections that I have been using.
I only seem to be able to rife once or twice a week and I tend to only use one of these channels at a time once a week. The auto channels on GB4000 that I think are hitting something are 199, 200, 565. If you need the list of individual frequencies for those, I will try to give them to you on this thread.
I hope this helps.
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